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Mrs. Kiwi, Los Angeles Age and Occupation in 06: 27, Bookkeeper Fiance's Age and Occupation: 27, P.E. Teach/Coach @ private schools in LA Engagement Date: March 31, 2006 Wedding Date: November 3, 2007 Venue: Radisson Hotel About Me: I'm a bookkeeper who failed high school algebra. I'm currently living in Los Angeles, literally a street over from where I grew up with Mr. Kiwi, my honey of three years. We have a jumbo mini-dachshund (seriously, he's huuuuge), and we're planning an autumn themed wedding on a shoestring, paid for by ourselves. The wedding date is my late grandma's birthday, I needed her there somehow, and that seemed like the best way for us. I can't believe I'm a Bee! I couldn't be more proud!
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Little Miss Puffet

January 24th, 2007 @ 5:27 pm by Mrs. Kiwi

I have a question regarding my dress - what is the difference between a petticoat and a crinoline? Is either one of those the same as a hoop skirt? Since I tried something like that on with my dress, does that mean I need to get one? My dress was built with one layer of the crinoline stuff already, which made it hard enough to pull down!

I’ve hated hoop skirts ever since 4th grade when a friend of mine dressed as Little Bo Peep for Halloween. Her hoop skirt had two pvc pipes threaded through it. When she sat, the skirt flipped right over her head, completely showing her ruffled undies to everyone. I’m pretty sure it was that day that I said, “NEVER” to petticoats. The fabric seems scratchy, the hoop is very touchy- flipping at the slightest turn, and do I really need to look wider? Too much for me to deal with, ya know?

While I did love the skirty thing I tried on with my dress, I don’t know if puff is what I want. I love the fact that my dress is A-line, and not a ballgown. I’m too short for ballgowny-goodness. And what someone said back in my Frederick’s of Hollywood post about the various butt lifters has stuck with me: What will my poor husband think when he goes to undress his bride, and finds layers upon layers of tulle, crinoline, and various body suckers?

But As much as I’d like to be a “just a dress over hose” bride, I think I may need some extra help. :)

Are you wearing a petticoat or crinoline under your wedding gown?

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10 Responses to “Little Miss Puffet”

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Miss Bluebell

No idea about the difference between the two - b/c I’m going poofless!

But I’ve got to defend hoop skirts for a second. :-) My mom was the head of the art department at a college so when they were forced to throw out all their old costumes (long story) I got to pick any to keep and one thing I grabbed was a hoop skirt! Man, that made for the most fun several-halloweens-in-a-row ever! The older type or fancier or whatever is really comfortable and easy to wear and you can sit down without showing your ruffled panties. :-) That said - I only wore it as a costume, so I’m still not sure what I’d think of it for a wedding dress, hehe.

 
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Laura

I’m thinking about getting a crinoline just because my dress is a teeny bit too long.
When I started looking for dresses I didn’t want a poofy dress, but every poofy dress I tried on, I fell in love with. I figure there will never be another time when it will be acceptable to wear a ballgown, so I better take my chance if I want it :-)

 
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The two terms are virtually interchangeable. I’d say if it has a layer of crinoline already built in, you are probably fine. But, you can always go back to the dress store and try it on again–with or without an additional crinoline. See which degree of fluff suits you better.
On a different note–you can always slip out of the dress and into some sexier under things on your own once you are in your room. That might preserve some of the mystery!

 
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Chrissie

I am wearing a crinoline. I actually tried a dress on with just a regular slip instead of a crinoline, and it made it too clingy (i.e. not in a hot way). So as hard as I was trying to be sort of an anti-bride, it looked silly without it.

I would recommend trying both options when you go back for your fitting.

 
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Miss Plumeria

I’m planning to wear a soft crinoline underneath my dress, not a hoop skirt or anything with wires, but a soft cotton tiered skirt with some layers of mesh underneath. If I don’t, I think there will be to much loose fabric in the skirt of my dress, but I’m partial to a fuller look anyway! :)

 
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Pencils

I’m not sure–my gown is quite similar to yours, Miss Kiwi, and I tried it on without anything extra. It looked fine with only its own internal puffing. It had some, but I really can’t remember how much. Anyway, I guess I’ll see when it comes in. I’m sure the bridal salon will try to sell me one, so I’ll get to see. Poor bridal salon, I got the dress at a very low price (they matched RK Bridal’s) and I hope to get away with no alterations and my mom creating the bustle! Heh heh heh…

 
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twelvetigers

See if you like it without when you try it on again, and if you do then I’d just skip it - one less thing to buy, right? My dress has plenty of pooth w/o any extra help. :)

 
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twelvetigers

Lol, pooth = poof. Who knows how that came out wrong.

 
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penguin

My dress is A-line also, so I figured I wouldn’t need to be poufy nor need a crinoline. But the salelady said w/o it, the fabric would go in between my legs when I walk around. I guess it depends on what exactly your dress is made of, but it may be something worth considering.
And half the challenge is for your husband to search through all those layers to get the garter~ you can’t make it too easy for him ;)

 
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Helen

If you want to know officially (two seasons at Shakespeare’s Globe Theatre in London, and a degree in Textiles and Costume) a crinoline is a wire or bamboo cage used to create a rounded circular shape (think Queen Victoria) to create the enormous circular skirts with a lightweight means to hold out the volume without the need for thousands of petticoat layers.
In bridal and eveningwear terms, a petticoat is a skirt (usually lining material or calico) with multiple layers of tulle from mid-calf to ankle to hold out the skirt in a much softer fashion. This is the net petticoat that most of you will have and that you would recognise (in a shorter version) of peeking out underneath skirts in Grease.
Crinolines tend to be used these days for period costume and for very large skirts (Bo Peep styles) and can make you look a bit ‘bell’ shaped as the skirt will swing from side to side. Petticoats come in thousands of variations of weight, poof and stiffness. Some may be necessary just to hold the a-line out slightly (preventing cling or falling between your legs) or to create the ‘meringue’ (for want of a better term) shape for the ever-popular strapless, large skirted style.
I’ve seen these styles go down the aisle without a petticoat, and to be honest, they just look a bit silly. They rely on the volume that the petticoat provides to get the proportions right, and also you will have been fitted (most likely) with a petticoat and thus the hem will rely on the right amount of lift to keep it at the right height.
Ask to try on various styles with your chosen dress and make sure you walk around (and SIT DOWN!) in it to see how you like the feel and can navigate obstacles!
Hope that helps xx

 

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Mrs. Kiwi, Los Angeles Age and Occupation in 06: 27, Bookkeeper Fiance's Age and Occupation: 27, P.E. Teach/Coach @ private schools in LA Engagement Date: March 31, 2006 Wedding Date: November 3, 2007 Venue: Radisson Hotel About Me: I'm a bookkeeper who failed high school algebra. I'm currently living in Los Angeles, literally a street over from where I grew up with Mr. Kiwi, my honey of three years. We have a jumbo mini-dachshund (seriously, he's huuuuge), and we're planning an autumn themed wedding on a shoestring, paid for by ourselves. The wedding date is my late grandma's birthday, I needed her there somehow, and that seemed like the best way for us. I can't believe I'm a Bee! I couldn't be more proud!

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