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Mrs. Kiwi, Los Angeles Age and Occupation in 06: 27, Bookkeeper Fiance's Age and Occupation: 27, P.E. Teach/Coach @ private schools in LA Engagement Date: March 31, 2006 Wedding Date: November 3, 2007 Venue: Radisson Hotel About Me: I'm a bookkeeper who failed high school algebra. I'm currently living in Los Angeles, literally a street over from where I grew up with Mr. Kiwi, my honey of three years. We have a jumbo mini-dachshund (seriously, he's huuuuge), and we're planning an autumn themed wedding on a shoestring, paid for by ourselves. The wedding date is my late grandma's birthday, I needed her there somehow, and that seemed like the best way for us. I can't believe I'm a Bee! I couldn't be more proud!
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Thin Ice

February 5th, 2007 @ 12:09 pm by Mrs. Kiwi

As I’ve mentioned before, I chose my MOH because of her proximity to the wedding, the fact that she’s my future sister-in-law, and because she knows weddings. Now, there is something new to add… I want to fire my MOH.

I’ve been told many a time that I should have picked someone else. We’ve been engaged about 10 months now, and she hasn’t done a single thing with me. I bought my dress without her. I even bought it without my future MIL, as well. Although I had previously scheduled the appointment with my mom and FMIL, at the very last minute, MOH pulled rank and needed her mom for something else.

Yeah, I’ve got to admit, this pissed me off. The dress excursion was supposed to be something to be excited about, and given my previous hesitation about shopping for one, I really needed all the support I could get. So, while I understood that my MOH is more important than I am in my FMIL’s eyes, I was still hurt. To clarify, MOH has often done this with other siblings, but I didn’t believe it. Now, I do.

After that, I was a little miffed. I know the MOH isn’t someone you “hire” and that she doesn’t have to do things for me, but I thought she’d at least want to help out. At this point, I don’t know when we’re going to be able to look at dresses for her. I think I’m at the point of just asking her size, getting the measurements, and then buying her dress for her.

I hope I don’t seem selfish, I just thought this whole wedding thing would bring us closer, but instead it’s making me like her less. If it wasn’t so rude, and such an uncomfortable idea, I would probably fire her about now. Because she’s family, firing her would cause a major problem! (Mr. Kiwi is constantly telling me to get rid of her, but I just can’t!)

Has anyone else demoted or “fired” a wedding party member?

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Miss. Orange

I fired one BM — She was roommate at the time and we were somewhat close, but living situation fell apart and she and I were just not on friendly terms anymore.

 
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Miss Bluebell

Eeeek, I’m sorry Miss Kiwi!!! I think my nonconfrontational side would figure that it wasn’t worth upsetting family, but I’d just try to proceed as best I could WITHOUT her for all other important decisions, and just let her stand up front but not do much else. Do you have any other close friends/family you can get to do traditional MOH things with you? Just explain to them how sucky your situation is and I’m sure someone else will want to step up! Just make a little comment in your program or something to show them how appreciated it is in the end!

 
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gellibelly

i feel the same way about one of my bridal party members (not my MOH tho, she has been great), but i don’t really know if i could do it. FI says if she fudges up one more thing or makes difficult for me again, i should let her go.

maybe you can try and approach her in a non-confrontational way by asking her if she’s really up for it because she seems really busy with other things, etc etc., i.e. try to approach it by not blaming her or accusing her but reason with her instead.

 
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J

Yup. Me. I fired MY future SIL, who was one of the BMs. Well, actually, she *fired* herself, not as in she actually said “I quit”. But she had said some pretty hurtful and unfair things to my fiance and me, and she knew she was burning the bridges at that time but she was too much a spoiled and selfish brat to care about it. So without anyone saying anything out loud, she knew she is no longer a bridesmaid. Even the rest of HER family understood why that is the case. Oh well. We need someone who truly cares and who’s truly happy for us to be there for us, not a fake, jealous person who is that self centered.

 
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tmt

I wouldn’t take my FMIL dress shopping, I think that is something to share with your own mom, I just don’t think its appropriate.

 
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Miss Kiwi

Thanks for all the responses everyone! Gellibelly, I think you have the right thought in mind, and possibly what I should ask her. J, it’s good to know I’m not the only one! tmt, I’m sure in most cases that’s right, but I spend a lot of time with my FMIL, without Mr. Kiwi. We often go to lunches, shopping, talk on the phone, email… so it’s different for us. She also spends a lot of time with my own family, and is invited to all family occasions, whether Mr. Kiwi is coming or not. So I guess it’s different for us, and my mom asked her to come. :) So I guess I’m lucky FMIL loves me so much! Either way it doesn’t really matter since it’s not relevant since the day has passed!

 
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thistleorchid

Could you find someone to be your second MOH? Perhaps a married friend so that you could call her matron of honor? There’s nothing wrong with having two honor attendants, one from family one from friends you could sell it as. I’d had to be in your situation, I’m sorry!

 
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Mrs. Snowbride

Hmm. This is a hard one, Miss Kiwi. I had a similar situation with my sister in law. She wasn’t a member of the wedding party (I only had two maids of honor) but before the wedding she was great, we were as close as I thought we could be as we live really far from each other but right before the wedding and during the wedding she was a nightmare, constantly voicing her opinion in a not very nice way. It definitely changed our relationship. If she had been in our wedding party which had been an early consideration, it would have been very difficult.
I would just do my best to get through your planning without her. As long as you continue to make an effort to include her, if she decides to cut herself out or be unpleasant that’s on her. If you “fire” her, that could possibly be something you have to deal with for years to come.
Good luck with everything and I hope she doesn’t give you too much trouble!

 
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Lixue

I’m in the same situation. My so-called BM (the only one who’s living in the same state as me btw) has not done SHIEEEET.

I want to fire her…but how can I do it delicately?

I feel for you Miss Kiwi!

 
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Maggie

In high school, I (of course) told my best friend that she would by my MOH. We’ve grown up and apart, but we’re still friends. So when it came time to pick my maids, I chose my sister as my MOH. She wasn’t very happy with me and told me that she was “demoted”.

I don’t think you should “demote” or “fire” her. I think Emily Post would take you down. But maybe think about having 2 MOH’s. That way you’ll have someone you KNOW you can count on, and you’ll still be honoring the feelings of your current MOH.

 
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sally

What exactly is a MOH supposed to do that she isn’t? Dont they just help on the day etc., are you expecting too much maybe?

 
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Miss Kiwi

Well, Sally, I thought the MOH’s job wasn’t just to be an extra hand at the wedding. I thought it was to support you up to the wedding, maybe give some input into wedding-type things, maybe have some idea of the dress she would like to wear, other than “Not strapless”. She hasn’t even called me once. She isn’t even being a friend at this point, so I don’t think I’m expecting too much at all. If I had any kind of input from her at all, maybe I’d agree with you.

 
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sally

Bummer. (I don’t know how all this works at all and am having a very small wedding party). I say dump her, it’s your wedding after all and your clearly upset.

 
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lil'k

that’s terrible. how about your other bridesmaids? can one of them pick up the slack? i understand how you feel. i have started delegating stuff or have begun specifically asking each bridesmaid to help with certain things bc i wasn’t getting the love. i don’t think i’m a bridezilla by any means but a simple, “can i help with anything?” would be nice.

 
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Miss Apple

Hey Miss Kiwi,

I feel you completely. I was also going through the same with my MOH. The reason I asked her was because she loves doing crafty stuff, very girly, and also at one point very close to me. She was really excited for me in the beginning and helped me go dress shopping a couple of times but ever since then she just disappeared and hasn’t heard much from her or even asked me anything about my wedding planning. I even have to arrange my own bachelorette party. I was really bummed and disappointed that she didn’t care much to help or even have any interest in it. There were times when I wanted to bring it up but never had the chance until about 2 weeks ago. She finally asked how the wedding planning was going and I spilled my guts (nicely of course). She was surprised because she didn’t even know she made me feel this way. She says she’s really happy for me but assumed that I have everything ready and complete (i’m OCD at times). Ever since then, its gotten a lot better and she even bought me a wedding planner for my bday yesterday. I think she realized how important it is for her to be apart of it all. It really meant so much to me.

Maybe you should ask her or even email her to see if there is something wrong, maybe she’s busy with her life or just assumes you have weddingbee so you don’t need her help. It could just be misunderstanding. Plus, its a little less messy in the long run.

Good luck!

 
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seattleaug11

I had a five girls. MOH is my sister and one of BM is soon to be SIL. They are family and totally wonderful! The other three are friends. I could totally fire 2 of the friends. I love them both but lets just say I would think again before asking them. They are unhelpful, rude and late to everything! Unhelpful is fine I have great family to pick up the slack but the late and being rude has me at about the end of my rope. We just ordered their dresses but I have 6 months to tell them to go ahead and forget about. It also makes me think twice about when they ask me to be in their weddings. I would want to be just as “helpful” as they have been to me.

 
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Beth

I was in a wedding last year where I was one of 4 MOH’s, the “main” MOH (The one who stood closest to the bride) wasn’t any help at all. She did nothing throughout the planning, didn’t help coordinate the bridal party (4 MOH’s and 6 bridesmaids) and didn’t even take care of her duties the day of the wedding. She didn’t even fix the bride’s dress during the ceremony, nor did she help dress the bride. She came to the hotel 15 mins before the limo was supposed to leave for the church.

As the MOH next in line, I took up the slack. I did all the work the day of the wedding, @ the rehearsal, and at all the events leading to the wedding. I felt hurt and used, because it should have been a joint effort. In the eyes of the bride, she knew her main MOH was no help, but she still got to sit right next to her at the presidential table and got to party with everyone else while my sister and i were running around trying to make sure everything was in place.

I say, have a heart to heart with her and ask her if she still wants to be a maid of honor, and if she doesn’t, ask her to step down if necessary. Asking your other bridesmaids pick up the slack while she still gets the “of honor” title is just mean. Being maid of honor is a special role and a special title, and she should live up to it.

 
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LA

Miss Kiwi it seems like this sadly is not an uncommon problem. I am totally dissappointed in one of my BMs who just refuses to participate in anything. I’ve sent email after email asking them all for opinions on BM dresses (you’d think she’d care about the dress she was going to wear, right?). Basically the only time we ever talk is when she needs something from me. Fortunately (or unfortunately I guess, who knows at this point), she lives accross the country from me, so at this point I’m just sort of “mentally” crossing her off and will expect nothing more of her than to show up.
At the risk of sounding bitter and cynical, I feel like the wedding process has really opened my eyes (and given me a big reality check) in regards to which people really care about me and support me. It’s dissappointing to say in the least to realize that certain people in your life are not exactly who you thought they were. And I’ve definitely learned what kind of friend/person to be towards my friends who are brides-to-be!

 
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Iris

Maybe you can give her an easy out so she can quit and she’ll feel more like it’s her decision and everyone can still save face: “You know, Susie, I realize you are so busy with {fill in the blank} and I’m afraid that asking you to take on the MOH duties on top of that might have been more than I realized. I know there hasn’t been much time for us to do wedding-related things together. I would totally understand if this is too much to ask of you and you’d rather not have the pressure of this responsibility… I should not have asked so much when you have so many more important priorities at this time…”

 
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Jayme

i’m with iris.

 
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Mrs. Kiwi, Los Angeles Age and Occupation in 06: 27, Bookkeeper Fiance's Age and Occupation: 27, P.E. Teach/Coach @ private schools in LA Engagement Date: March 31, 2006 Wedding Date: November 3, 2007 Venue: Radisson Hotel About Me: I'm a bookkeeper who failed high school algebra. I'm currently living in Los Angeles, literally a street over from where I grew up with Mr. Kiwi, my honey of three years. We have a jumbo mini-dachshund (seriously, he's huuuuge), and we're planning an autumn themed wedding on a shoestring, paid for by ourselves. The wedding date is my late grandma's birthday, I needed her there somehow, and that seemed like the best way for us. I can't believe I'm a Bee! I couldn't be more proud!

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