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Mrs. Kiwi, Los Angeles Age and Occupation in 06: 27, Bookkeeper Fiance's Age and Occupation: 27, P.E. Teach/Coach @ private schools in LA Engagement Date: March 31, 2006 Wedding Date: November 3, 2007 Venue: Radisson Hotel About Me: I'm a bookkeeper who failed high school algebra. I'm currently living in Los Angeles, literally a street over from where I grew up with Mr. Kiwi, my honey of three years. We have a jumbo mini-dachshund (seriously, he's huuuuge), and we're planning an autumn themed wedding on a shoestring, paid for by ourselves. The wedding date is my late grandma's birthday, I needed her there somehow, and that seemed like the best way for us. I can't believe I'm a Bee! I couldn't be more proud!
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A Few Choices Made

March 23rd, 2007 @ 1:46 pm by Mrs. Kiwi

As requested by reader Kris, I’m going to post some of the readings we have chosen so far. Although I know quite a few of you aren’t religious, I’m hoping we can really just see something lovely in these words, and not be cruel or judgemental. As I have said many times before, I am also not very religious, which is why I’m taking the readings so seriously. I’m going to run down the list of them, where they are from, and all that. The readings were chosen from the booklet “Together for Life”, something the Father gave us to choose from. I’m not quite sure if I may choose from another source, but this is what I have so far.

For our opening prayer, we have chosen:

Father,
hear our prayers for Kiwi and Mr. Kiwi
who today are united in marriage
before your altar.
Give them your blessing,
and strengthen their love for each other.
We ask you this through our Lord…

I chose this one out of four choices we were given. It seemed more about us being together, than about anything else.

Next is the Old Testament Reading:
Stern as death is love.
Song of Songs 2:8-10,14,16a; 8:6-7a

Hark! my lover- here he comes
springing across the mountains,
leaping across the hills.
My lover is like a gazelle
or a young stag.
Here he stands behind our wall,
gazing through the windows,
peering through the lattices.
My lover speaks; he says to me,
“Arise, my beloved, my dove, my beautiful one, and come!”

“O my dove in the clefts of the rock,
in the secret recesses of the cliff,
Let me see you,
let me hear your voice,
For your voice is sweet,
and you are lovely.

My lover belongs to me and I to him.
He says to me:
“Set me as a seal on your heart,
as a seal on your arm;
For stern as death is love,
relentless as the nether-world is devotion;
its flames are a blazing fire.
Deep waters cannot quench love,
nor floods sweep it away.”

Of all the many choices, this is one of the few that again, was about love. There were quite a few about creating woman for man, and being a virtuous wife. Although I am enjoying learning all that I can about the church right now, I’m just not comfortable choosing something along those lines. I don’t know about having a family member reading “lover” in a church, though. shy02

Next, is the responsorial Psalm.
The Lord is Compassionate
Psalm 145:8-9, 10 and 15, 17-18

The Lord is compassionate toward all his works.
(repeat first sentence)
The Lord is gracious and merciful,
slow to anger and of great kindness.
The Lord is good to all
and compassionate toward all his works.
(Repeat first sentence)

Let all your works give you thanks, O Lord,
and let your faithful ones bless you.
The eyes of all look hopefully to you
and you give them their food in the season.
(Repeat first sentence)

The Lord is just in all his ways
and holy in all his works.
The Lord is near to all who call upon him,
and all who call upon him in truth.
(Repeat first sentence)

Now, for some reason, I had a hard time choosing a Psalm from the group I was given. The one we did choose was the easiest one to agree with.

The New Testament Reading

If I do not have love, I gain nothing.
1 Corinthians 12:31-13:8a

A reading from the first letter of Saint Paul to the Corinthians

Brothers and sisters:
Strive eagerly for the greatest spiritual gifts.

But I shall show you a still more excellent way.

If I speak in human and angelic tongues
but do not have love,
I am a resounding gong or clashing cymbal.
And if I have the gift of prophecy
and comprehend all mysteries and all knowledge;
if I have all faith so as to move mountains,
but do not have much love, I am nothing.
If I give away everything I own,
and if I hand over my body so that I may boast
but do not have love, I gain nothing.

Love is patient, love is kind
It is not jealous, is not pompous,
it is not inflated, it is not rude,
it does not seek it’s own interests,
it is not quick tempered, it does not brood over injury, it does not rejoice
over wrongdoing
but rejoices with the truth.
It bears all things, believes all things,
hopes all thing, endures all things.
Love never fails.

This was chosen because the words are magnificent, and so beautiful. It doesn’t read as a religious excerpt to me, just as a lovely piece of poetry

Alleluia Verse.
1 John 4:12

If we love one another,
God remains in us
and his love is brought to perfection in us.

This is as far as I’ve gotten. I’ve yet to learn which parts of the ceremony I can omit, and which parts I must have. The choice about who to read for us is also complicated, but I’m sure we’ll find someone who can do it. Every night I look over the choices, and try to find the right one that speaks of Mr. Kiwi and I. I honestly never thought it would be this hard.

The one choice that I’m having a hard time making is the one with the vows. We are given two options:

“I, Kiwi, take you, Mr. Kiwi to be my husband, I promise to be true to you in good times and in bad, in sickness and in health. I will love you and honor you all the days of my life.”

Or: “I, Kiwi, take you, Mr. Kiwi, for my lawful husband, to have and to hold, from this day forward, for better or for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, until death do us part.”

This one leaves me stumped - they both are so beautiful and honest. While I’ve always wanted to say “Til death do us part”, I love the part with “I will love and honor you…”Another part I’m stuck on - reciting the vows as they are said to us, or just saying “I Do”. Come on, what bride doesn’t want to say “I do”?

So this is what we have for the time being. The ceremony may be the hardest thing to plan, and I feel more and more overwhelmed. Any advice, help or just some friendly words of wisdom could be helpful. I appreciate all of you reading this with an open mind!

Did you say “I do” or did you repeat the vows?

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Miss Bluebell

We’re doing both! Our officiant (my aunt) is going to say “Do you X take you Y to be your lawfully wedded Z?” and we’ll answer “I do” (haha hopefully!!) and then she’ll say, “then repeat after me” and we’ll do the repeating part. I didn’t want to have to choose one or the other!!

 
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Miss Bluebell

OH and your readings sound great!! Not too hitting you over the head with religion so they hopefully won’t make you/your nonreligious family feel uncomfortable but with beautiful sentiments all around! It’ll be great!!

 
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Jennifer

I agree with everything Miss Bluebell said. And we did both as well. I too have always wanted to say “til death do us part” and “I do” so we managed both!

 
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nan

You picked all the same readings as I did from Together for Life! We spent hours and hours debating the readings and picking them and then my priest said that he had his own that he thought were better than from the book so in the end only the first and second readings (song of soloman and corinthians) were ones we chose. As for the vows, we actually combinded the two because we wanted to say “I will love and honor you all the days of my life” and didnt want to say “death” in my ceremony but I liked the wording of the other one better. So our vows were “I, _____, take you, _____ to be my husband, to have and to hold, from this day forward, for better or for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health. I will love you and honor you all the days of my life.”

 
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Miss Kiwi,

Actually, I the priest/deacon DOES ask you a few questions to which you answer, “I do” & then you recite your vows to each other. You might want to double-check.

 
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oojoy

I’ve only ever heard both “I Do” followed by the repeated vows, kind of like what Miss Bluebell is doing, so you can probably do both as well. :-) I’d ask your officiant how that part works. Also, you may be able to combine the two sets of vows to come up with one that has all the wording you want in there.

I like your readings so far. I think you’ve done a wonderful job in choosing them!

 
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Jenbug

I bet the Father would let you combine the vows, so you could say the first one and add “till death do us part” on the end. Then you can say both bits!

 
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Kris

You chose some beautiful readings, thanks for sharing!

 
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Swedish Bride

Ask him if you could combine the wows. If you explain it to him, like you did here, he can‚´t be upset you made some beautiful points…

I like your readings, we will use a part of your first one:

“Set me as a seal on your heart…”

and a piece from Ruth (dont know the verse).

Good choice :)

 
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Iris

Nice! We chose a lot of the same, including the 2 Corinthians verse. For the New Testament reading we went with the miracle of turning water into wine (to hint at the fun reception to come, no doubt).

We repeated the vows so we would say them with our own mouths. Also, we liked the sentiment of vowing to love the other all the days of one’s own life, rather than until the other person dies. It just sounds nicer and sounds like we still would love and remember each other after death (which we would).

 


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