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Mrs. Emerald, Chicago Age and Occupation: 26, Wedding Planner Fiance's Age and Occupation: 26, Paralegal Engagement Date: October 8, 2006 Wedding Date: September 2007 Blogging Since: November 29, 2006 Venue: Hyatt Lodge, Oak Brook IL About Me: I have been dreaming about my wedding forever, and flipping through bridal magazines since high school, so I am in my element! I am calling our theme "Vintage Inspired French/Asian Fusion." Mr. Emerald is very involved in the planning process, but of course he generally defers to me cuz I have a strong opinion of how I want everything to be :-).
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Slightly Violated…

April 2nd, 2007 @ 6:13 pm by Mrs. Emerald

I feel kinda weird about this so I thought I’d post… Sorry if this is rather unclear or messy, but I am posting as things come up in my head.

Wow. Interesting. Apparently my recent post regarding Videography/Lighting stirred up some interest on a professional videographer board. I noticed that a number of hits were being linked from this board and hopped on to take a look. Apparently my post was linked, and the videographers were slightly miffed about my “priorities” with comments like, “Who is going to remember her freaking lights????” I thought I had been clear about “to each their own” but apparently to them, my priorites were all wrong. *sigh*

I guess I have to realize the risk involved in posting publicly, but I didn’t think that it would spark controversy on another site!! Especially because the thread was started by the videographer of Tim & Rhea’s wedding video, which I absolutely LOVED and cried over, and thought was the most fantastic video. Ever. Did I not compliment his work? If I could afford it, I would have LOVED to fly this videographer in from the West Coast! But back to reality here…

Since I am still getting multiple hits from this board even now, I’d like to clarify. YES, I have come to the realization that videography IS important. I DO want my wedding recorded to watch over and over and show my future kids. I’m in the process of finding a reputable one with a style that I love and that is within my budget. However, I do not have a lot to spend on this, because it was initially not in the budget at all! So I am squeezing money from here and there, trying to make it work.

Why was it not on the budget from the start? Well gosh, I honestly have not seen a video that I liked until now! No one I know has had a videographer at their wedding! I didn’t realize that there was this whole new “groundbreaking” genre of wedding videography that is more cinematic and fabulous. Now that I’ve seen it, I don’t feel that I can settle for some relative’s camcorder anymore. Someone on the board mentions that he doubts any “high end” videographers will shoot for under 2K. Ouch!

On the other hand, yes, lighting and draping is important to me as well, and why should that be wrong of me? I’ve had a “vision” in my head of what my dream wedding would look like for the longest time now, and unfortunately that included lighting. I will remember my lighting, even if guests or others don’t.

Ugh, that’s all I have to say… for now!

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fizzy

Ehh…don’t let them get to you. No one is ever going to agree with all of your priorities or your reasons for them. Personally I didn’t feel having a videographer was important AT ALL and they can quote me on that all they want :)

At least you know who to steer clear of, as far as looking for someone’s services!

 
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farmgal

Your wedding, your decisions. Period. They can do what they want in THEIR wedding! And if they’re this catty about your choices now, I can’t imagine the pain it would be to deal with them if hired….

 
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Miss Strawberry

HAHAH. Hiiilarious. I’m sure if you wrote about not being able to afford a lobster buffet for everyone, SOMEWHERE, SOMEHOW, a fisherman board would rip you apart for not appreciating the value of lobster! :) Well, now you know not to use any of these vendors and now weddingbee readers can check this board too to see if they would like to use any of them as well!!

 
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Lucy

I think Miss Strawberry hit the nail on the head! Nobody should begrudge a bride or groom how they want their ceremony or their party. But to add to the controversy, I’ll put this out there: I’ve seen some absolutely gorgeous videos of friends’ weddings and I asked FI how he felt about getting a videographer. I talked about how fleeting the day will be how we might not remember the exact words and we might not catch all the great little moments that happen when we’re not right there. And his was response was that he didn’t want a video replacing his own memories of the day. He’s afraid that if he sees a video of the event, that the video will supplant his own memories. And I have to say, I think I see his point.

 
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Mrs. Bee

of course videography is a top priority to them… they’re videographers! ;)

they probably never thought you’d read that board, so it was easy to criticize your attitude/brides’ attitudes in general towards videography. i think more than attacking you or your decisions specifically, they’re discussing the state of wedding videography as a whole, and how it’s become a minor or completely omitted aspect of weddings. so try not to take it too personally.

what’s important to you, is what’s important to you, and if videography isn’t on the top of that list, there’s nothing wrong with that. :)

 
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Sarah

I’ve been listening to a lot of the shows on Wedding Podcast Network, where one of the regular hosts is a videographer. He repeatedly whips out this complete BS speech: “If you could see your grandmother’s wedding photos, or your grandmother’s wedding video, which would you choose?” Well, duh, the photos, because those are real. A video from 1935 is imaginary.

There’s a concept called technology orphaning. All those floppy disks and zip disks full of information you can no longer access? They are orphans. They are coasters. And someday, your wedding DVD will be the same.

Fifty years from now, will technology have advanced so little that today’s DVD will still be playable? I sincerely doubt it. Fifty years from now, will your grandchildren be able to look at a photo in an album? YES.

 
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bunnybride0108

Sorry these folks jumped on your previous post.

Video is not a huge priority for me. Quite honestly the main reason I want video of some portions of the ceremony is to make a flip-book of the footage of our first kiss or jumping the broom or some other pivotal moment.

 
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Nony Mouse

I don’t think it’s “become” a minor part of weddings — videography hasn’t yet become a Major part of regular people’s weddings. Face it, the videography folks cater to the people with an extra two, three grand to throw around on them. If your bank account isn’t limitless, you must go with an affordable solution.

 
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Jennifer

Wow! I totally thought I was the only one who didn’t really prioritize Videography. Good to know. As far as those posts on the other board… yeah, they totally sound bitter. hahaha!!!!

 
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cassia

WOW, those people have high opinions of themselves. Complaining about their customers? (love that customer service!) Whining about being ignored? (like the bride and groom have nothing better to do than chat up the videographer!) Threatening to leave the video biz b/c no one appreciates them? Go ahead!!

 
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Tha

I agree will the above, you don’t have to defend yourself to them! We are not hiring a videographer for our wedding and have been to plenty of weddings without and those with were cheesy “say hi” for the bride and groom, “try to not look into the camera” type of videos. Do what you want, no pressure!!

 
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Melanie

If anything, I think that they have done a disservice to themselves by having negative things to say about a bride who posted their thoughts about HER own wedding. I wouldn’t care if he was just mouthing off but he posted the link to your blog! Not cool in my books. I would think twice about working with someone like that.
It’s your money and your vision and I think that whatever you do will look beautiful!

 
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Tea

you know, honestly i don’t care too much about seeing my grandparents’ weddings so that argument wouldn’t fly for me. but i do want video and am trying to fit it into my budget. but i don’t remember any of my friends having videographers except one and that’s only because i saw her video…i totally forgot they were there [even though i now remember standing next to the camera at the rehersal and ceremony]…but even her vid was a little cheesy. i didn’t like it.

but the fact is that videoagraphy is almost always one of the first things to go when you’re making a budget. that’s just reality.

 
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kandaceandjason

Instead of whining that you’re not convinced you need a videographer, they should (professionally) try to convince you, and thereby all the other naysayers out there.

If they really wanted your business, they would start off by saying that they know it’s an expense that’s typically unbudgeted for, but here are x number of ways they can help offset that cost. Give you some concrete persuasion instead of bashing you behind your back. Then, when you hire them and love their work, you refer them to more people than their advertising could reach (since, you know, you’ve got a whole fanbase of wedding readers eager to hear everything you have to say!)

I’ll be the first to say I don’t have $3k to spend on videography (or $2k for the ceremony alone - what a rip-off!) My catering isn’t going to cost $3k, and that’s for 130 guests, a full meal of DAMN good food, a champagne toast AND all of the service for the night!! Show me how videography fits into my budget and then we’ll talk.

The thing I hate about services like that is there’s not really a benchmark for what to charge. So these “experts” slap a price on it, hype it up to be this luxury that only the high-class can have (I mean really, if EVERYONE had it, would you still want it?) and then whine when they can’t sucker in those of us (like myself) who are paying for every penny of our weddings through our blood, sweat and tears.

Even if a videographer taped 6 hours of wedding-day coverage and spent an entire 24 hours (not necessarily all at once) editing that footage, that still comes out to $100/hr! Ladies let’s see a show of hands - how many of us make $100/hr? I know I certainly don’t.

 
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MissBree

It is true, a lot wedding videography is cheesy and lame. Want to know what else is lame? People giving you crap for making that comment. Your priorities are your priorities. If videography isn’t one of them why would anyone care? Oh yeah, the only ones who would care are the ones who stand to make money from you and people like you.

 
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Didi

it’s YOUR wedding and you can hire a clown to make balloon animals for 2k if you wanted to! don’t even let their comments get to you — just a bunch of whiners

 
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nancy

Haha! What if your “freaking lights” weren’t there? I’ve done some amateur videography in college (amateur as in shooting with a 2K outfit) and lighting is SO important with anything, photography, film, video, you name it. Sure you can shoot in dim lighting, but it will look like crap. I am not planning to get a video but my FI sort of wants it. We’ll see, doubt I have 2K to blow…rather just buy my own professional video camera with that money :)

 
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Miss Plumeria

Yeah, don’t let it get to you. Every vendor will feel that their service is of utmost importance, and every bride will see certain wedding aspects as more valuable than others. I know it’s hard not to take it personally when people criticize your blogs — but be confident in your choices and what’s important to you, and don’t let it bother you if others don’t agree. Where would the fun be if every bride prioritized in the same areas?

I personally would have liked a videographer if I could afford it — but it was too low on the priority list to make the cut. Could we shift things around to make it fit? Probably, but we’re happy with how things are now — we have a fantastic photographer and the nicest stationery set we could ask for — things important to me as a designer, and I honestly don’t think we will ever regret how we prioritized and spent the money. A videographer might feel differently, but I’m not one of them!

 
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Jen

I’m sorry to hear that - that’s crazy!! As someone who takes other people’s opinions way too seriously (even people I don’t know!), I know how hard this is, but don’t let it get to you! It’s your wedding.

 
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Lucy

Well, take all the advice for what it’s worth. For or against videography is up to the individual - just as having a certain number of bridesmaids or just your one best friend as your maid of honor. It’s a choice - but like photography, video will be a record of the day as it unfolded, and having both photos and video of the vows if nothing else is important for so many reasons. Ignore those ‘university’ people! Post away, that’s what this is for!

 
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Mrs. Emerald, Chicago Age and Occupation: 26, Wedding Planner Fiance's Age and Occupation: 26, Paralegal Engagement Date: October 8, 2006 Wedding Date: September 2007 Blogging Since: November 29, 2006 Venue: Hyatt Lodge, Oak Brook IL About Me: I have been dreaming about my wedding forever, and flipping through bridal magazines since high school, so I am in my element! I am calling our theme "Vintage Inspired French/Asian Fusion." Mr. Emerald is very involved in the planning process, but of course he generally defers to me cuz I have a strong opinion of how I want everything to be :-).

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