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Open Question: Invitation Etiquette

April 17th, 2007 @ 4:38 pm by Open Question

Hi, here’s my question:

If you have a guest list that’s prioritized into list “A” and list “B”…and you want to maybe not send out invites to the B list’ers until you start getting “no’s” from the A list’ers… do both A list’ers and B list’ers get save-the-dates?

If not, then how do you make sure that the B list guests also have ample time to coordinate accommodations and transportation given that everyone will most likely be traveling to the wedding (and it’s a holiday weekend). What is the proper etiquette to handle this situation?

Thanks!
Caroline

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n

B listers shouldn’t get save the dates, because the only people who get save the dates are those who will receive an invitation for sure. Just think - if you got a save the date, turned down other events, and didn’t get an invite later, wouldn’t you be miffed?

I took an informal survey of our A-listers and had a good idea as to who would or would not come. Then, I ranked my B-listers, and sent them invitations immediately once I confirmed that A-listers wouldn’t come. Luckily for us, our B-listers were mostly in-town guests who we didn’t have to worry about travel, etc. To accommodate your concerns, I would send the invites out early (we sent them out at 8weeks) and left just over one month for the rsvp deadline.

 
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Miss Pumpkin

My first comment is that I thought that having a B-list was an etiquette no-no in the first place. Has that changed? Second, I agree with n - no STD’s for the B listers and send out the invites earlier than usual so that when/if you invite your B-listers they’ll have enough time to plan.

 
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Laura S

B listers should not get save-the-dates.

I think if you’re going to do a B-list, then one of the inherent risks with doing that is that you simply can’t give B-listers much time to plan for travel/accommodations because you have no way of knowing ahead of time whether they’ll be invited or not. (Although you can minimise the problem by sending out invites early, as suggested above)

I have the same problem. I’m trying to include all the people who live far away out of town on the A-list. In fact the only B-listers who live out of town are people who I hope will decline (they’re my parents’ friends and they live in Australia, so I don’t know them very well) so I’m not too bothered if they don’t have time to pull together travel plans.

 
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n

Pumpkin - you’re right, having a “b-list” is a no-no, but it’s inevitable and happens! everyone I know has had a B-list or at least some variation of it even if it’s just a “hope you don’t know, don’t expect you to come, won’t count you in the final count until I hear otherwise”… situation.

But it’s still taboo and shouldn’t be mentioned in polite company…

 
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MK

I have a semi-related question. If you send out save-the-dates and a few people verbally tell you they won’t be able to attend, do you not send them an invitation then? I feel like this is a stupid question, but my wedding is out-of-town and I’m guessing a few of my friends/office ppl won’t be able to make it. I’m sure they’ll let me know when I send out save the dates, but I feel bad they won’t get an actual invitation. Of course, I don’t want to seem like a present-grubber. What did you guys do?

 
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Iris

STD can be dangerous… can’t send a STD unless you know the person is absolutely invited.

An approach that worked for us — Instead of an two-tier A/B list, we had a more graduated list (maybe A/B/C/D/E/F/G list), and began sending in several small waves, starting with the most important persons ASAP (you can send the “A” list to the highest VIPs REALLY far in advance), and we worked our way down the list, a few more each week, as we heard from people whether they planned to attend. For STD’s, it’s like a pre-RSVP.

Everyone knows we are so busy with work that I don’t think there was any expectation that we had more than an hour at a time to address so much mail by hand… so not sure if anyone noticed the waves; we didn’t hear a thing.

To MK __ Yes, still send an invite even if they verbally said they couldn’t come in response to the STD.

 
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Ms. Albatross

everyone who gets a STD should get an invite, even if they verbally tell you they can’t make it. plans do change. and certainly don’t send any b-listers STDs, as then you are required to send them an invite regardless.

i have tried to A-list all the OOTers that I really actually want to come so that I can give them appropriate notice with an STD. So B-list is mostly local people (who I also want to come but may have to leave off for space reasons) and a few OOTers that are more optional to me - parents friend’s and whatnot.

I am planning to do similiar to n, except a little earlier. Mail A-invites maybe 10-12 weeks in advance, and send out B list invites 6-8 weeks in advance based on the no’s that have already come in. With locals, I think you could invite B listers as late as 4 weeks in advance, but OOT B-invites should go out at least 6 weeks for it not to look somewhat obvious what it is.

 
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penguin

MK, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with not sending those ppl an invite. They already got a STD so they know you were thinking of them.
Or how about sending a wedding announcement to those ppl instead? Maybe attached with a handwritten note that says “Wish you could come!” And since you sent them a STD, they should know that you genuinely want them there and are not giving them an invite cuz you’re looking for gifts.

 
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Mary

I don’t really know what the proper etiquette is but my friend received a save the day but never an invite. She was pretty hurt because she basically was expecting an invite in the mail up until a few weeks before the wedding. I think maybe you should pass up on that in case you hurt anyone’s feelings if you aren’t going to invite them in the end. I always thought STDs meant, the invites on the way but we hope you’ll reserve the date as soon as possible to attend our wedding kind of thing.

 
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Brooke

If someone receives a save the date they need to receive an invite. You don’t have to send a save the date to everyone. If you’re not sure whether or not they will be invited then don’t send a save the date. you can always send an invite without an STD but if you sent an STD you have to send an invite.

 
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Julie

I don’t think a B list is a “no-no” — most people I know have used them. Our reception site is limited to 170 people, so we have 170 exactly on our A list, and then a B list.
Do NOT send Save the Dates to B list guests! Just send out your A list invites earlier than your normally would. Ours is a holiday weekend, so we have extra leeway, so we are sending out our invites approximately 3 months before the wedding, and putting an RSVP date as 2 weeks after the invites go out (everyone should already know whether or not they can attend due to the save the dates). Then, we will hear back from them and be able to send out the B list invites 6 weeks before the wedding, which is the normal time to send out invitations. This way, the B listers will not know that they are getting the invitations late, and will still have 6 weeks to make travel plans and arrange hotel rooms.
But definitely do not send out save the dates if you will not be inviting the person to the wedding!

 
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kandaceandjason

Just be careful that your A list and B list don’t overlap each other - in the sense that you can’t put a guy on the A list and send an STD to him but put his roommate on the B list and not send him an STD. People will talk and feelings will get hurt when people find out they’re less of a priority than someone else they know.

 
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slo

I heard that if someone tells you they definitely cannot come, you do not send an invitation because it seems like a gift grab.

 
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n

I think that in general the B list is a no-no, unless you have weird catering or seating capacity restrictions. Like if you go under a certain amount of guests you get charged.

Mk: Even if you know people aren’t coming, they still must receive a formal invitation. This actually works in your favor because guests who do not attend tend to give the most expensive gifts. It’s not present grubbing though; basically what you’re saying is that you’re important enough to invite even though I know you’re not coming.

A good rule of thumb is to expect 20% of your guest list not to show; this will allow you to expand your guest list by 20%.

 
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wsukarebear

Definitely don’t do B-list STD’s because technically, if someone’s on the b-list, honestly, they aren’t a priority for you and maybe don’t need to plan that far in advance. If someone’s that important, put them on the a-list and send them an STD. That sounds kind of sad, but it’s true!

 
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Jenny25 (message)  27 posts, Newbee

I don’t see why you wouldn’t send someone an invitation even if they verbally tell you they can’t make it because atleast they get to see what your wedding might be like eventhough they can’t make it. I do not see it as a gift grab…just because you send an invitation does not necessarily mean they will give a gift. We have received some declines with our rsvp and no gifts (and we don’t expect gifts either).

 
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Mrs. Bee

definitely do not send std’s to people on the b list. what i would do is try to reserve a block of rooms with a deadline date as close to the wedding date as possible. send your a list invites out super early so that you’ll be able to send out your b list invites once people start rsvp’ing no. then you’ll already have hotel rooms blocked. many hotels don’t charge you a fee even if you don’t book up all the rooms you’ve set aside (the westin in times sq for instance where we reserved rooms).

pricey flights might still be a problem, but miss lime blogged about group travel discounts on american airlines earlier today, so that might be something you could look into.

luckily mr. bee and i have no friends so there was no need for a b list. personally i’d be offended if i found out i was on a b list, but i understand the need for them. as long as you juggle it right, i think you can make it work.

good luck!

 
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Sarah

Uh-oh.

I have a C list. I’m extra tacky!

 
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jen

I’m going to have to do an A/B list for capacity reasons. I think sending out the A list invites way in advance is a great idea and that’s what I plan to do. My question is: does this mean that the A-invites and the B-invites have 2 different RSVP dates?

 
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Julie

Yes, Jen, the A- and B-list invites would have different RSVP dates (at least that is what we are planning to do). Otherwise, just because you send the A-list invites out early, you may not hear back in time to send out the B-list!

 
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me

can you just send invites way in advance and forgo STDs?

 
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Stephanie Nolan

What is the correct time frame to send out Baby Shower Invitations?

 
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Girlfriend

I’m curious regarding the B list and how to rank the people on the B list. If you get no’s from the bride’s parents’ friends, should you mail a B-lister from their list an invitation?

 


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