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Mrs. Kiwi, Los Angeles Age and Occupation in 06: 27, Bookkeeper Fiance's Age and Occupation: 27, P.E. Teach/Coach @ private schools in LA Engagement Date: March 31, 2006 Wedding Date: November 3, 2007 Venue: Radisson Hotel About Me: I'm a bookkeeper who failed high school algebra. I'm currently living in Los Angeles, literally a street over from where I grew up with Mr. Kiwi, my honey of three years. We have a jumbo mini-dachshund (seriously, he's huuuuge), and we're planning an autumn themed wedding on a shoestring, paid for by ourselves. The wedding date is my late grandma's birthday, I needed her there somehow, and that seemed like the best way for us. I can't believe I'm a Bee! I couldn't be more proud!
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I Miss You

May 2nd, 2007 @ 6:41 pm by Mrs. Kiwi

During wedding planning I’ve realized a lot; how strong our relationship is, how many people we know (darn guest list), and how much we miss those who can’t be with us. I’ve blogged about my Grandma Ora before, but since we’ve been engaged over a year now, I’m missing her more and more each day as I get farther into planning. A lot of the things we have chosen to do are things that I know she’d enjoy. Mr. Kiwi also lost his father around the time I lost my grandmother, and I know he’s constantly on his mind as we plan the beginning of our own family. This has led us to wonder how we’ll honor our lost loved ones.

This is where it gets tricky. I pretty much grew up with only Grandma Ora, because her husband (my grandpa) died when I was six or seven, so I don’t remember him well. My mom’s parents passed away before I was born. Mr. Kiwi was never close to his dad’s parents, and even though his grandmother is still alive, he barely sees her (I only just met her two weeks ago!). Mr. Kiwi’s mother’s parents passed away some time ago, as well.

So, in wanting to remember the family who are no longer with us, we have a choice to make. I know I’d really like to have a framed picture of my grandma somewhere at the site, but it will feel strange to also post pictures of the grandparents I never knew, or didn’t know well. It’s the same for Mr. Kiwi, we’d like to remember and honor his father, but what about the grandparents? His paternal grandfather was never nice to Mr. Kiwi’s family, but his maternal grandparents were. Even I know we can’t pick and choose who to honor, can we?

I love the idea of carrying a small picture of my grandma, but I don’t know where I could get that done. We were thinking a line in the back of the programs reading, “We’d like to honor and remember those who could be here in heart and spirit though not body, for helping us grow to be the people we are today”, or something like that. Yet, again, I wish there was a way I could somehow single out the two most important people who aren’t here: My grandma Ora and Mr. Kiwi’s father.

What would you do about that? Just group all the people who are no longer with us in a paragraph in the back of a program? When I think about doing that, there are just too many to name, and it seems so much less personal.

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Jillian Kay

I’d suggest making it super super personal. Get a locket with your grandmothers picture, and either wear it as a necklace, or fasten it to your bouquet. And then either a manly kind of locket, or an old fashioned pocket watch with his father’s photo, kept in his pocket.

That way they are both right there with you when you exchange vows. Make sure you get pictures of it, so you always remember how they were a part of your wedding.

Or, identify them not as loved family members who were lost….but as each of your biggest influences or heros. It will be obvious to everyone why you chose who you did, and wouldn’t make sense to list out everyone. :)

 
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kandaceandjason

Could you do it in two separate paragraphs? In the first you could “recognize” those who can’t be with you, and in the second you could “honor” specifically those two? If they’re that special, people will understand your wanting to revere them more, and will think it nice that you happened to include the others, out of courtesy.

My paternal grandma died when my dad was in high school, and even though I’d met my paternal grandfather 2 or 3 times, I didn’t even attend his funeral (I was away at summer camp, so it’s not like I chose just not to go.) The only one I’m honoring will be my uncle who died of cancer several years ago, because I knew him and loved him. The difference is the love. Sure, I loved my paternal grandparents in that “they’re family, I don’t not love them” way, but I loved my uncle because of the person he was, not because he was related to me. I don’t think anyone will look at my uncle’s memory candle and think “wow how awful of her not to include her dead grandparents”

 
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Robyn

Our venue has a pond right in the center of the action. It’s a custom in many Asian countries to float lanterns in honor of the dead. We’re adopting this custom for our wedding night. There will be a floating pond light for each of our departed loved ones. We plan to include a couple short sentences in our program describing the tradition and naming the individuals being honored. I personally look forward to dusk on that day, when I’ll have the opportunity to take a private moment and remember my paternal grandfather, maternal grandfather and favorite aunt. My fiance feels the same.

 
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Iris

I like the locket idea.

Also, I think your wedding is Catholic? The priest might ask if you’d like to list anyone by name and/or description (e.g., “grandparents and family members, especially Granda Ora and Mr. Kiwi Senior”) in the prayers, so that’s an option if you have religious feelings about it.

Would be hard to believe anyone would judge a couple on their wedding day for paying a little “extra” tribute to the relatives they knew and loved best. After all, you were so young when they died that you couldn’t have known the others so well.

 
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Iris

P.S. Especially since your wedding day is Grandma Ora’s birthday — a special mention is definitely in order!

 
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Robyn

Maybe since a lot of the things you are planning your grandmother would enjoy, you could pick a thing like say the flowers and say on the program, The flowers for our wedding were chosen in honor of Grandma Ora, and then find a similar way to say something about Mr. Kiwi, that way it is showing how personal it is and how important they were to you that you would choose something based on them.

 
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Chrissie

We are using this paragraph in our program:

“During this day of celebration, please join us as we take a moment to honor the memory of FI’s father, along with that of all our loved ones who have gone before us. Though they are no longer with us, we keep them in our hearts.”

As others have said, I don’t think anyone will fault us for singling out his dad.

I will also be using my grandparents’ wedding photo on my bouquet wrap. I just sized it down to 1×1, affixed it to cardstock, and laminated it. It will be a small and personal way to have them there.

 
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Aimee

Did either of them have a favorite song or poem, or something special to you? That might be a nice way to include their memory in your ceremony, and a unobtrusive way to “single” them out in your program.

Also, the locket idea is so sweet! That would probably be the solution I would go for personally. :)

 
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Jann

if you have an area where you can have framed pictures up, you can possibly frame up slightly bigger, individual pictures of those closest to you, and then smaller frames / single frame for multi pictures (or have a frame just containing only the names) for the others. you can also do a double frame for those closest to you, where one frame is a photo and the other a note to/about/to thank them.

 
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C

I like the locket idea, or maybe attaching a small photo-brooch to the front of a ribbon tied around the bouquet. That way you can carry her with you. When you get to the reception, you could display your bouquet as a floral peice on the cake table or head table..

 
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C

(of course, make sure you remove the photo if you are going to toss anything).

 
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sky2

We’re doing framed photos on the cake table of our parents and each set of grandparents on their wedding day (to the extent we have the photos, and just photos of them young and together when we don’t). My aunt did it at her wedding and I thought it was a really nice way to have them there without making it too sad. Not only can it replace a big arrangement on the cake table, but you can give each set to your parents as the gift….

 
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Andria

I was just wondering about this the other day. My dad’s parents are both gone, and although they were both wonderful people, I don’t remember them as well and my maternal grandparents. My mom’s dad is turning 90 this year and God-willing will be at my wedding, but my grandma just passed away in November. My parents and these grandparents built houses next door to each other, and I lived right next door to them for the first ten years of my life. I would like to honor all my grandparents, but when I add in my three grandparents who have died, and my fiance’s four, it gets to be a lot, and then I thought of my aunts and uncles who have passed and realized the list would be very long, and then I’m thinking, what if we forgot someone or someone got upset over something - the last thing I want is a memory candle to cause tension.

Another one of those little things that cause you stress that you never anticipated!

 
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My Wedding Blog

i can relate to you…

my dad passed away when i was 14…and i really wanted him to be at my wedding

but it can’t be done…

many days i cried myself to bed when i realise he can’t be there…

im really close to my father….

what can i do? im not sure if it is a taboo to place photos of someone who had passed away…

in Chinese custom, yes it is…it is considered back luck to the newly-wed

so what i do, i have a little locket..with my dad’s photo inside…..

just to feel that he is beside me, during my wedding day

 
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kanipark

some couples put pictures of each parent & grandparents in frames near the guestbook :)

 
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Elizabeth

instead of a traditional locket, you can get photos set into glass and silver “charms” of sort, that can be hung on a chain or a ribbon. Do a google search for “photo necklace” and you’ll see what I’m talking about.

Planetjill (dot) com has some really great photo accessories, necklaces and bracelets as well as cuff links for Mr. Kiwi that you could look at (I swear I don’t work for them, just an admirer.)

Another option would be to get some custom jewelery made with their birthstones incorporated - necklace or earrings for you, and cuff links for Mr Kiwi? More subtle, and many people might not notice, but you would know the meaning, which is what’s important.

Good luck!

 
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Natalie

My grandfather, whom I was extremely close to, just passed away in February (and I’m getting married at the end of this month). I cannot believe that he won’t be there with me… but I obviously know he will be there in spirit.

At the moment, the plan is to get a locket, brooch, or photo charm and have it attached to my bouquet with his picture in it. In addition to my bouquet, I’m also going to carry a small prayer book that my grandma carried on their wedding day.

To honor our other grandparents or significant family members, we’re going to put a note in the program and list their names.

I’m also thinking of putting a white rose in my bouquet for each of my relatives (3 grandparents total and a special aunt and uncle).

Do something that makes you comfortable… I don’t think there is anything wrong with setting your grandma and his father apart… they were obviously a big part of your lives. You can make it something obvious… or something a little less obvious. The people that really need to know about it are really you and your fiance… know that your relatives will always be with you- on your wedding day and always!

 
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Katie

I have debated about this as well. There are many on each side of the family that are no longer with us. Still after the years it is emotional for Fi and I as well as our guests.

We are going to have the first chair of the first row empty for those of us who could not be there.

Fi and I joke that they are just going to have to squeeze there spirit @$$es onto two chairs.

I love the idea of the locket in the bouquet. Maybe for FI he could have a locket tucked away in his hankercheif.

 
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Amy

Miss Kiwi I can’t imagine anyone would begrudge you for honoring very special loved ones on your wedding day.

I have a similar issue and I haven’t quite figured out how to solve it. My parents divorced when I was 1 and I haven’t been close to my father (not invited to the wedding) or his family for many many years. As for listing grandparents in the program, it is very important for me to put my mom’s parents who I am very close with and my step-father’s mother who I loved dearly before she passed away and my FI’s grandparents- but is it weird that I don’t include my paternal grandparents? I am on the fence about inviting them- they are nice people, but I don’t really know them very well and the guest list is already beyond the limit.

Anyone’s thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated. I don’t want to be rude, but to be over inclusive doesn’t make it as special for those that we are so close to.

 
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Roslyn

My grandfather with whom I was very close passed away in December and I am getting married in June. I bought a locket and put a picture if him in one half and a picture of him and I when I was little in the other. I am going to tie it around the stem of my bouquet. I am buying my fiance photo cuff links as a wedding present so that he can honour his granfather that passed away about three years ago–they were also very close. We are also going to list the two grandfathers as well as my dad’s father (who I was not very close to) in the program or light a candle for them or something. We’re not sure exactly what.

 
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Mrs. Kiwi, Los Angeles Age and Occupation in 06: 27, Bookkeeper Fiance's Age and Occupation: 27, P.E. Teach/Coach @ private schools in LA Engagement Date: March 31, 2006 Wedding Date: November 3, 2007 Venue: Radisson Hotel About Me: I'm a bookkeeper who failed high school algebra. I'm currently living in Los Angeles, literally a street over from where I grew up with Mr. Kiwi, my honey of three years. We have a jumbo mini-dachshund (seriously, he's huuuuge), and we're planning an autumn themed wedding on a shoestring, paid for by ourselves. The wedding date is my late grandma's birthday, I needed her there somehow, and that seemed like the best way for us. I can't believe I'm a Bee! I couldn't be more proud!

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