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There is an article on Slate today titled Diamonds Are A Girl’s Worst Friend, picking apart the diamond industry and the reasons why women want diamonds in the first place (and no, “it’s sparkly!” isn’t listed winky02) and the inherent gender inequity behind engagement rings.

What do you guys think of the article? What are your thoughts on diamonds and engagement rings in general?

And….some polls!

Is a diamond engagement ring important to you?

  • Yes, but if money were an issue, I would get another piece of symbolic jewelry (i.e. gemstone) rather than a fake diamond. (38%)
    Yes, but if money were an issue, I would get another piece of symbolic jewelry (i.e. gemstone) rather than a fake diamond. -> 38% (248 Votes)
  • Yes, I would definitely want one no matter what. (27%)
    Yes, I would definitely want one no matter what. -> 27% (175 Votes)
  • No, I would prefer to have a more unique engagement symbol (ruby ring, necklace instead, etc.) (14%)
    No, I would prefer to have a more unique engagement symbol (ruby ring, necklace instead, etc.) -> 14% (89 Votes)
  • Yes, but if money were an issue, I would be fine with a fake diamond. (9%)
    Yes, but if money were an issue, I would be fine with a fake diamond. -> 9% (57 Votes)
  • No, I actively did not want one because of what it (7%)
    No, I actively did not want one because of what it -> 7% (45 Votes)
  • No, I don't care about having the symbol at all. (5%)
    No, I don't care about having the symbol at all. -> 5% (32 Votes)

Total Votes: 646

Do you currently have an engagement ring?


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31 Responses to “Diamonds Are a Girl’s Worst Friend?”

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1) I have a “fake” aka man made diamond. I used to care. For a little while I was upset by it even though I was the one who wanted it that way. But, I have since gotten over it. It worked for a number of reasons - its gorgeous, it was affordable, and it went with my moral/political stance. Granted my mother doesn’t not know, nor do any of my friends - EXCEPT my maid of honor - and she got her own engagement ring after she was married. Regardless, in the end although e-rings are great, eventually you have to stop looking at your hand and move on with your life. $10,000 or $1,000. AND, my fiance has an engagement ring. PEOPLE LOVE IT. Guys especially, surprisingly. Brazilian and German cultures do this…and we did - and we both get new bands at the wedding.

 
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bliss

I think your engagement ring stone is a matter of preference. I personally love diamonds partly because they are my birthstone. I think diamonds have gotten a bad rap in the last few years to the lack of conditions for the miners. If when buying diamonds you are responsible enough to ask it is easy to find non conflict diamonds today. This article was interesting because is talked about the origins of why diamonds are so desired as engagement rings. But I feel that it really all comes down to personal preference. Also I totally disagree with the quote “But it’s also the case that a murkier truth lies within its brilliance: Women still measure their worth in relationship to marriage in ways that men don’t. And many are looking for men who will bear the burden of providing for them, while demanding equality in other ways.” Looking at my female friends and relatives this judgmental statement is extremely outdated and untrue in my opinion.

 
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fizzy

I wanted a non-diamond center stone, but my this was more due to my love of color vs. anything else. I fell in love with an antique setting that has a lot of very tiny diamonds in it, and since it was in-store we didn’t want to have to pay more to have them take the diamonds out.

So I guess I’m sort of inbetween. I have diamonds, but I didn’t really want the ring for the diamonds in it. Anything that looked good with the tsavorite in the middle was fine.

 
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christin

While I do like sparkle, all I can think when I see a diamond is African blood. It’s easier for me to assume that the people I see with shiny clear rocks are wearing fakes than to think that they handed money over to DeBeers.

I’m not going to beat people up for wearing it, I am just going to do my part by not contributing.

 
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kdb

I like the idea of wearing a ring, even the engagement ring. But I am not happy about wearing a big diamond. Fiance went and bought it and presented it as part of the proposal so I guess I’ll wear it. But when we go shopping for wedding rings I’m going to either trade in the engagement ring or let him know that it’s just going to sit in a box most of the time.

 
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cs

I also have a fake diamond.

Why? Because I thought it was foolish to fork over so much money to DeBeers. I would have been happy with a gemstone ring or just a band, but ended up with a diamond simulant to appease the judgemental snobs in my fiance’s field. They would have looked down upon him and it would have stunted his career. A sad reality.

Anyway, instead of forking over tens of thousands to the diamond cartel, we donated it to a charity of my choice. Money well spent, in my opinion…

By the way, in case you were curious… We run in social circles with some very rich people, and they cannot tell at all that it’s a fake! (It’s a very good fake)

 
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angie

I’m hoping for either a Ruby or a Black diamond when the time comes.
I don’t like regular diamonds because they are boring (to me). I’ve never wanted a diamond but have always wanted a Ruby since it is my birthstone but also my Grandmother’s birthstone as well.
I think it’s a preference. I have a blue sapphire promise ring that I love. I’m more of a color person with jewelry.

 
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Andrea

I have a diamond and I love it. It was my fiance’s grandmothers ring and she wore it for 50 years, 40 of which she was widowed. I wouldn’t trade it for anything.

 
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dboe

I’m so glad you blogged about this article because I was bothered when I read it this morning. While I agree with most points in the article, the tone was sort of…condescending. My FI and I both have an engagement ring (he likes to call his a “mengagement ring”). I didn’t appreciate the idea of being tagged as engaged while he wasn’t, and he didn’t think it was fair that I get a nice ring and he gets nothing. I have issues with diamonds, but I absolutely love the ring he picked out for me. So we decided to go with a Canadian diamond (or so our certification says). I think it’s a personal choice for everyone. Perhaps I didn’t relate to the article because it joined a series of articles that for the most part kind of painted all brides as excessive. I know there are people like that out there, but I think most of us just want to have a meaningful wedding.

 
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Julie

I have a real diamond, purchased by my fiance, and I love it. I’m not going to get into the politics of real vs. fake, but the poll DID get me thinking about a different topic — is it strange to ‘upgrade’ a ring after several years? Are people attached to the sentimentality of ‘this is the ring with which he proposed’ and thus do not want to change it? I just ask because when my fiance gave me the ring (a GORGEOUS 1.5ct asscher stone with .5 ct asscher side stones), he commented that it would be upgraded to a larger ring once his medical school debt was paid off. It’s a lovely ring and I would certainly wear it forever, but would it be frowned up to actually upgrade it later (at his suggestion)?

 
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Mary

I’m engaged and do not have a diamond. I didn’t grow up expecting a diamond and I don’t care for the bling. If he got me one, that’s his priority but I always said that I don’t need one. And if we followed the expected standard of 2 or 3 months salary, the bling would be 12K or 18K and I for one cannot imagine wearing that much bling on my person.

 
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jaycee

Just wanted to point out that “fake” diamonds and “synthetic” diamonds are not the same thing. “Fake” diamonds are cubic zirconia or other cheap, man-made materials. “Synthetic” diamonds are man-made, but are molecularly identical to diamonds, hence they are still pricey.

Personally, I want a natural sapphire due to my moral/political misgivings towards the diamond industry. Natural sapphires are also quite rare and are 2nd in hardness to diamonds… but cost a fraction of diamonds.

 
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Cool, relevant post!

The only way I would really want a diamond enagement ring is if it were an heirloom.

I do not want to contribute to the industry/image by sporting one (real or fake or synthetic). Partially it is from moral views, partially it is from the desire to be different. I think the value is definitely perceived and overdone (at least in America).

 
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Mary

Well, there are a lot of companies that do unethical things. This is just one industry. We can’t blame these guys for having a good ad campaign, can we?
But I completely respect people who don’t care to have a ring, for moral/ethical reasons.
I love my diamond, but we each have to make a personal decision that we are happy with.

 
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Julie

I would have loved an aquamarine ring but he went with a diamond. I love it and wouldn’t trade it in but a diamond wasn’t the priority with me.

 
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twelvetigers

I have a diamond ring, and I like it, and I’ll keep it forever. I’m happy with that!

As for the article…
“For those who aren’t bothered by the finer points of gender equity, an engagement ring clearly makes a claim about the status of a woman’s sexual currency. It’s a big, shiny NO TRESPASSING sign, stating that the woman wearing it has been bought and paid for…”

Bullcrap! I wear mine as a sign of love and commitment, not as a sign of his ownership. So it also lets others know I’m taken, but it’s true, I am… not owned, but taken and happy.

 
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L8Blmr

My diamond is an estate purchase, which I love. It is antique, has a history, and no one died for me to have it. We are not following any rules or traditions for our wedding and my FI did not do so for the purchase of my ring either.

I think the article is a little zealous. It makes a few good points, but also makes a lot of statements that are stereotypical and assume a “mob” mentality.

 
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Miss Popcorn

I answered the poll as best fit me, but it isn’t quite accurate. I wanted sapphires and diamonds from the start, and I chose a band ring with alternating sapphires and diamonds… though my grandma bought me diamond ring as well later. I’m wearing them one on each hand and my plain wedding band will be stacked with the engagement ring.

I didn’t want my fiance to spend too much, and since the ring has small stones, if didn’t cost very much. He wouldn’t have minded spending somewhat more, but this was the one I liked within the price range.

 
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Miss Popcorn

I think the article is excessively cynical. Yes, I like pretty things. so what. I probably would feel weird if my fiance had spent 2 months salary on my ring (jeeze… that’s almost our wedding budget.) As it is, my ring cost about half what my fiance spends on his high end bikes.

 
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Iris

A girlfriend once commented that she was sad to see how “small” her diamond was, and that now that they’ve been married 12 years and had 4 kids she would like an “upgrade” but could not afford it. Well, there’s a lot to be said for enjoying all those years together and welcoming those beautiful children into the world. They married young and worked hard together to build a great family and life; the ring is a reflection of where they started, and it’s very sweet. There’s a lot of sentiment in the original ring, especially because they are very religious and like that it was blessed.

My grandmothers’ modest-sized but great quality mid-WWII rings speak volumes of times and the the military men they married.

It’s fair to say that those who marry older, more often than not, have been working longer and can afford a more expensive engagement ring; but that’s not what matters.

P.S. There’s someone at my workplace who is wearing a very large very obvious faux engagement ring and I’m afraid it is the topic of much water cooler chatter. Not in a good way.

 
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Firesong

I didn’t want a diamond, mostly because of sociopolitical reasons — not only the conditions of the mine workers and possibly funding violence, but also the environmental impact of mining in general — and also, a little bit, I would have liked a red or rose-colored stone. My betrothed is a little more traditional on such things, and he would not hear of a red stone (or a red wedding gown either). I was looking into Moissanite and lab-created diamonds.

As things turned out, his mother had a diamond ring that she found beneath the cushions of a couch (!) years ago, and she offered us the stone, which we gladly accepted and had set in a custom-made setting. I am very happy that my love didn’t have to spend any money for the diamond, that we weren’t funding diamond mining (admittedly the gold in the ring is new), and that I get to have a truly unique ring that’s just the shape I wanted.

I am considering purchasing our wedding rings from greenKarat because they use recycled gold.

 
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AMK

I have always looked forward to having one and my fiance wanted to give me one, but I knew that the quality he was determined to buy would have cost a *lot* and I wasn’t too hot on the idea of going into significant debt for a piece of jewelry. He wasn’t able to purchase it in November when he had hoped to (he had a really romantic presentation planned, too) and we probably still wouldn’t have been able to purchase it until next month (our wedding is in October).

I’ve since decided that I want a very fancy diamond wedding band, completely the opposite of what I thought I wanted. You could buy a very nice engagement solitaire for the cost of this band, so we can’t afford both. I would still kind of like a solitaire, but the band I like won’t be available forever and a solitaire will, so maybe we will buy one in the future.

To be honest, what I really wanted more than a ring was a proposal. We decided on marriage together because we wanted to meet a specific timetable and needed to get moving on it, but I told him he still had to ‘ask.’ Since we never bought a ring, I never got a proposal. With four months to go before the wedding, I think that ship has sailed.

 
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coco

i got engaged without a ring. i’m against diamonds for many reasons, but mostly for moral/political reasons. i’ve felt this way for a long time, way before the movie blood diamond came out. i also look at big engagement rings and think about who might have died for those diamonds.

also aesthetically, a big diamond is just not for me. i’m a little too casual to have a big fancy rock on my finger all the time, and i think that a lot of rings with a central diamond are just too showy and a little boring for me. (but sometimes they do look great on other people.) i also don’t like the idea of wearing two rings.

so my boyfriend’s grandmother had an old diamond engagement ring which his parents kept telling me i should have, but i just didn’t like it. then i found out that my late grandfather also had some diamonds from an old tie pin of his, and my mother suggested i take all of the old diamonds and make them into a new ring. so now i am planning to take them to a jeweler to have a new ring made up with the 3 or 4 medium-sized diamonds (hopefully with recycled gold), which will serve as my wedding ring.

i have to admit that when i wear my ring, i think i will tell everyone where my diamonds came from so they will know i didn’t support debeers….but i think the ring will be beautiful, and it will be really special to me because it will combine something from both of our families.

 
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bunnybride

I never wanted a diamond because of the industry. My fiance knew this pretty early on when we started dating yet he surprised me with a diamond when he asked me to marry him. It is an estate piece from the 1920s so it is not part of the current industry.

I always wanted a socially responsible investment in a mutual fund instead. It is still investment and the yield ends around the time that most marriages in the U. S. fall apart. When we are still together we can re-invest the money in whatever stage of life our family is in at that time. He went with the Project 21 fund as well on my behalf. In addition to the investment he wanted me to have some sort of ring and fell in the love with the piece he gave me. Quite truthfully he could not have picked out a more perfect ring for my tastes on an aesthetic level.

 
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ms. mouse

I got sold on the whole “Kimberley process” being non-conflict stones. This is an industry created standard and should be taken with a grain of salt. Plus, “non-conflict” does not equal humane conditions for workers- it just means that militias aren’t involved in the sales (maybe). Nor does it guarantee a decent level of environmental clean-up during or after the mining. I really wish I would have stuck to my earlier inclination and insisted on fake stones.

What’s strange about the “gender inequality” is that I will just have the one ring, while Mr Mouse currently wears and engagement ring, soon to be replaced by his wedding band. Could you put that in a poll? I’m wondering how many women only have or want one ring and how many engaged males wear an engagement ring.

 
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Sarah

We had my ring made using the diamond from my FH’s great-grandmother’s ring, surrounded by two rubies. It means a lot because of the history and because my future MIL wanted to me to have a piece of her family’s history.

 
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Stephanielee

I saw this article.

A bit more feminist by comparison to some of my friends (though certainly not all), I’m frustrated when women seemingly have to be “one or the other” and this article seemed to perpetuate that mindset. Social issues of the diamond industry aside, this article made me think that I should feel ashamed for having an engagement ring at all, never mind the diamond/gemstones in it. If my fiance were the type to wear jewelry, it’d be awesome for him to wear a ring as well.

I admit it, I like this ring on my finger, even if I might be “feminist.” But I would like more equality between women (”feminist” vs. …not feminist) even more.

 
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historygeek

I am not wearing an engagement ring (diamond or otherwise) for the following reasons:
1. I do think it is a symbol of gender inequity, and we are trying to make our marriage as equitable as possible (haven’t figured out yet how to get him pregnant, but give me time.)
2. It doesn’t really serve a purpose, except give money to companies that seem to have plenty already.
3. I work with my hands a lot, and would be really worried about losing it.

 
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suzy

the whole “tradition” is totally absurd, and you’re fooling yourself if you think you can find a non-conflict diamond (how in the world could anyone tell them apart???). it’s just another way women are manipulated into spending money (or having their finances spend money) on something that is meaningless, for someone else’s benefit.

a couple of months before i got engaged, my fiance and i randomly started talking about this and i made my views pretty clear. he had been in the process of designing my ring and had to go back to the jeweler and switch it from a diamond with two sapphires to a sapphire with two diamonds. i think he, too, got caught up in the hype. he saw what his colleagues’ wives were wearing and thought he had to make a good showing and went ahead and put a couple of large diamonds in the ring anyway. i really think it’s stupid. my ring is beautiful for what it represents, and for the inscription inside of it. i hate the fact that it’s neither environmentally friendly nor humane, and that it means we’ve been suckered.

 
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Amanda

Regarding upgrades/Iris’s comment–
I feel like “upgrading” your engagement ring is ruining anything that it stood for before. (Not what this article thinks e-rings mean… I mean the sentiment behind it) So what if you get your engagement ring when young, and it wasn’t big. I feel like it should still be sentimental to you, and by swapping the original diamond out for a new diamond (and setting) totally changes the ring.
If you feel the need for more *bling* later on, get a right hand diamond ring as an anniversary gift (10, 20 years whatever).

 
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