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June 25th, 2007 @ 4:22 pm by Beehive

In today’s hive:

  1. Brooke would like to know if 11-12 months prior is too early to send out save-the-dates?
  2. Brit would like some advice on how to handle this vendor situation.
  3. Stepanielee wants to create save-the-dates using 8×11 cardstock that breaks apart into four postcards, with the image on one side and the address and stamp on the other — will the USPS allow her to do this?
  4. j w and her fiance are considering sending out post-wedding marriage announcements, since she’s having a smallish wedding to which many of her friends aren’t invited.  Is it bad form to send out announcements after the ceremony?  Will people wonder why they weren’t invited?
  5. b would like to get her BMs cute, unique makeup bags.  Any suggestions on where to look online?
  6. Danielle sent out std’s in the beginning of the year but has lost touch with some of the people over the past 6 months (former coworkers).  Is she still obligated to send them a formal invitation?

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Tanya

Stepanielee– you should be fine with that size postcard. The postcards cannot be more than 6 x 4 1/4, so yours should be perfect.

JW– I think announcements are fine. If people are going to wonder why they weren’t invited, they’ll wonder that whether or not they get an announcement. After all, it’s not like they’ll never find out you got married, and that they weren’t invited. And if you really did have a small wedding, hopefully they won’t think the announcements are just a gift grab. You’ll be fine.

 
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Courtney

b - I got my BMs makeup bags from bagettes.com. They were a HUGE hit! I put a picture of me and each BM when we were younger on one side, and a picture of us from my bridal shower on the other side.

For my mom’s, I put a picture of her holding me right after I was born on one side, and a picture of us at the shower on the other side.

They were perfect!

 
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Chrissie

Brooke, if you are having a destination wedding, the sooner, the better!

 
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Iris

Stephanielee — As Tanya says, so long as you meet the size requirements (the USPS has a maximum and minimum size), they should be fine.

Brooke — 11-12 months would seem early to me, unless it’s a destination wedding. On the other hand, it’s just a STD, so might be convenient. BUT — If you need to keep your options open RE the guest list (could change 1 year out?), it’s a problem once you send an STD, because an invitation would be expected to follow. Maybe you could do a really early e-mail (announcing that you’ve set the date) to closest friends & family who are definitely invited no matter what, followed by the mailed STD for everyone as the wedding date grows closer.

 
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Becky

JW - I’ve seen this done a lot, but usually have a small wedding and a reception or something like one. Maybe have an open house or something so there’s a reason to send out an announcement? If you’re changing an address or something, you could just send out “we’ve moved” with the marriage mentioned somehow (The honeymoon continues at 555 1st Ave…) or something liek that. That way it would never be confused with a “look what you missed out on” notice. ;)

 
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Iris

b - If you are open to shopping at a brick-and-mortar for makeup bags: TJMaxx, Marshalls, Century21, Filenes Basement, etc., all have great brands and styles. Something for everyone and usually great prices. I’ve also seen customized ones online that incorporate a photograph or other design element you provide.

 
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hm

danielle: yes, you should send an invite. they may not attend because you have lost touch and not think anything more about it. however, if you DON’T send, they will always remember.

 
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Iris

danielle: I agree w/ hm.

 
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Miss Butterscotch

brooke-the sooner the better! I sent mine out about 10 months in advance (for a summer wedding). If yours is a summer or a destination wedding, getting them in the mail will be appreciated by your guests.
danielle- I agree with hm. send one, but they may not come, and that is ok.

 
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jw-you’re supposed to send out announcements after the ceremony, otherwise those people will show up!

danielle-bummer but you have to send an invite if you sent a std. unfortunately, they may show, but there’s not much you can do about that.

 
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MJ

Brooke- I wasn’t even going to do Save-the-Dates, but the fiance, yep, the man insisted on it. How he knew about them, I have no idea. I sent mine out exactly 1 year to the date. I thought it would be cute to have the postmark a year earlier (of course custom stamps = no USPS stamp, so it was only cute in my mind…) I have to tell you I am glad I did. The second we announced we were engaged, everyone kept asking when the date was. The Save-the-Dates shut them up and probably saved the little bit of sanity I have left! ;-)

 
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Miss Popcorn

Brit, I’m not a lawyer, so this is just my general business sense and a lay person’s legal knowledge talking, but be aware that if you plan on following through with law suit, it’s better not to spread it far and wide how bad she’s been until the legal stuff is settled and you know it’s not going to affect the lawsuit.

What I’d do is tell her once more in very clear terms that if you do not have either 1. a full refund by [specific date] or 2a. a tracking number [same date as in 1] and 2b. the items in your hands by [second specific date, with a time] then you will consider her in breach of contract and initiate lawsuit, and/or that you’ll be telling everyone near and far who she is and what she’s done. if you don’t have a tracking number by date #1, consider her a lost cause and go ahead and get alternatives.

You can wait until after the wedding to decide whether spreading the news about her or lawsuit is more worth your while.

I really doubt she’ll actually come through with the tutus. You’ve been stalled and strung along and strung along again, so I can see how you’re still hopeful, but I think if you step back you’ll agree that it’s unlikely she’ll actually send the tutus. I think your best case scenario is a full refund.

 
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Miss Popcorn

Brit: I would, by the way, probably make date #1 this Thursday, and date #2 Monday.

 
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Iris

Brit — Lawyer here. Don’t threaten a lawsuit over 3 tutus. It’s not worth it, and will probably backfire in negotiation.

Next step should be to try to work it out with her one last time. She might be so embarrassed or disorganized and can’t get them for whatever reason, and human nature doesn’t want to disappoint or face the problem. At this point, it’s better to get your money back, preferably in CASH. I would go to the store, put on my best “understanding”/empathetic voice (and face, body language) and tell her that if she can’t produce the tutus, then she can just refund your money and that will be the end of it. Smile, but don’t back down. Take all your documents with you, fan them on the counter so they see you have the proof. Do not surrender the documents. Take copies so you can provide a copy and not give up your originals. With you standing there in the store where there are other customers, they will be inclined to resolve the matter and get you out of there quickly.

If this doesn’t work and it was paid with a credit card and the payment wasn’t made yet (i.e., running a balance), contact the credit card company and dispute the charge to withhold payment for goods not received.

If none of these ways work, can go more of a heavy-hitter route.

GOOD LUCK!

 
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Manda

Stephanielee: Yes, they will be just fine the minimum is 3.5×5 so you will be good with your quarter sheet. And as long as tehy are on cardstock, they will hold up just fine too!

 
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jenny

i would like to do a wish tree instead of a guestbook. i know there was a post about that on here previously, but does anyone else have pictures of some good sample ones?

 
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Julie Q

B- I ordered my bm’s small LL Bean totes with their initials on them. There are so many goodies you could include… makeup, jewelry, gift certificates, candles, picture frames, etc… They were a big hit!

 
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Brit

Thank you for all of the advice-I love the suggestions. I sent an email to the vendor again today, which followed your suggested course of action, Miss Popcorn. I have refrained from mentioning the name of the retailer and from smearing her reputation too badly for the reasons mentioned in these posts. At this point I am biting my tongue as much as possible.

I also appreciate your advice and well-wishes, Iris. Unfortunately I found the vendor online and she is located cross-country. After leaving numerous emails unanswered over a course of two weeks I mentioned that I was an attorney and that I would hate to turn to legal remedies in order to ensure that she fulfilled her obligations. It took that sentence to prompt her to reply to my inquiries (although she still failed to send the tutus). I paid with a check card, so I can’t dispute that charge. That was a good lesson learned!

Accordingly, I have given her until 5:00 tomorrow to either hand over a valid tracking number or to have the tutus on my door step. In the alternative, I have informed her that I expect a full refund and have another tutu vendor lined up.

Can you believe all this drama over tutus!!!

 
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Iris

Good luck, Brit. Hope it works out in your favor.

 
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