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Mrs. Kiwi, Los Angeles Age and Occupation in 06: 27, Bookkeeper Fiance's Age and Occupation: 27, P.E. Teach/Coach @ private schools in LA Engagement Date: March 31, 2006 Wedding Date: November 3, 2007 Venue: Radisson Hotel About Me: I'm a bookkeeper who failed high school algebra. I'm currently living in Los Angeles, literally a street over from where I grew up with Mr. Kiwi, my honey of three years. We have a jumbo mini-dachshund (seriously, he's huuuuge), and we're planning an autumn themed wedding on a shoestring, paid for by ourselves. The wedding date is my late grandma's birthday, I needed her there somehow, and that seemed like the best way for us. I can't believe I'm a Bee! I couldn't be more proud!
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My Money? His Money?

July 11th, 2007 @ 7:23 pm by Mrs. Kiwi

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Yesterday I accompanied Mr. Kiwi to the bank, for the reason of it being air-conditioned and banky-smelling. I have a weird love for the smells of places: banks, bookstores, laundromats. Anyway, after he made his deposit, we started walking out, and I asked him when he’d like to open our joint accounts.

All along, we figured we’d have a joint checking and savings. As of right now, I have a checking and savings account, and my IRA account. Mr. Kiwi also has a checking and savings account, as well as a credit union designed for teachers. If we were to also open at least one joint checking, we’d have a combined total of 7 accounts. That’s just crazy, right?

So in the car we were discussing our options. He’d like to keep his credit union account, and have that be a “rainy day” fund, where we’d never touch the money - unless we’d absolutely need it- it gets a great interest rate. We’d also like to have a joint checking account, so I can keep track of all of our bills at the same time in the same account. Right now we each have a few automatic payments coming out of our accounts per month, and it would be easier to keep track. There is no way I’m giving up my IRA, and I’d also like to have a savings account for myself as well.

So, we have these options: open a joint checking and savings account, I keep my original savings account and we just get rid of our checking accounts, and he gets rid of his savings account. Or just have a joint checking/savings, with his rainy day fund as our rainy day fund.

How are you working the money management? If you’re planning on opening a joint account, when did you go about that?

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23 Responses to “My Money? His Money?”

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miss roo

i know it’s counterintuitive, but it might be simpler to have more accounts.

for example, you could each have an account for discretionary funds which you can spend as you like (mine usually gets spent on clothes, his gets spent on gadgets).

then you could also setup an account that gets used for joint stuff like bills, rent, etc. you might also want an account that you can use to save up for stuff like vacations, house, etc.

although the credit union might provide a good savings account rate, it probably doesn’t beat online savings accounts rates. ING and HSBC direct are good examples. they offer rates of 4-5% and funds are easily accessible through online transfers. they’re typically available within 3-4 business days.

you probably want to set up an investment account for your fiance as well, so that he also has an IRA. having an IRA allows you to defer taxes paid on your current income and it allows withdrawals under certain circumstances, so you might want to keep it in mind if you’re thinking your rainy day fund would be used for emergencies that qualify as IRA withdrawals.

 
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miss roo

oh btw… for reference, i think i have about 6 accounts ALONE!

i guess the moral of the story is, figure out a system and MAKE IT WORK FOR YOU!

(and make sure your system doesn’t require you to pay any fees. i haven’t paid any banking fees in years.)

 
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Tessa

I’m a control freak, and he’s a spending freak. To keep things simple for us, we have my checking and savings account and a joint savings account. HA! I’m mean. No, but really, he does NOT know how to manage money so that’s why it’s all mostly under my name. And we started doing that as soon as we moved in together.

 
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TS

you’re smart to realize that having lots and lots of accounts is bad, but you need to have several moving parts to get the most for your money- accounts all have specific purposes you can use. also, not to be morbitd, but I’ve read about surviving spouses who have no credit whatsoever, because all of their recent credit history was on joint accounts with a spouse, but they were now on their own. It’s morbid but like insurance, we should all responsible and take account of those things. And in this case, there is no cost- just an extra account or two.

 
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Arivechi

I agree, make sure you have at least one or 2 accounts solely in your name. For YOUR money. Sure you can contribute to the KIWI joint/household account for all those joint expenses and the joint KIWI family future, but you deserve to keep what’s yours.
Just make sure that Mr. Kiwi or someone else knows what all your accounts are…. my grandmother passed away last year and it took my mom a few months to figure out that she had like 8 different accounts - solely in her name. My grandfather and grandmother kept entirely separate finances in addition to a handful of joint accounts. Don’t make it a big puzzle.

 
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Didi

We each have our own separate checking, IRA, CD accounts, but we pooled together our savings which we both contribute the same percentage of our paycheck to. Once we’re married we’ll keep our checking/IRA accounts separate but start to merge our CD’s. The reason being that the checking will cover our own spending habits, but our savings and high interest CD’s will go towards future real estate, car, etc. purchases.

 
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Didi

We will also open a joint checking after we’re married to handle bills and loan payments, but our paychecks will still be deposited into our own checking accts.

 
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Leslie

My husband is a financial advisor, so he handles all money management for us. As far as bank accounts go, we each had separate checking accounts and ING savings accounts. We opened a joint checking account that pays a fairly high interest the week after we were married. We kept our ING savings accounts, and he uses each of them for a different purpose. I still have my separate checking account but only because it contains my decorating budget for our new home. After that budget is depleted, I will close the account. He closed his separate checking.

 
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Lissa

Hey, I have 8 different accounts between savings, checking, and IRAs. I have so many because I moved and, well, long story.. but anyway. :)

FI and I have been discussing this exact matter a good bit lately. He’s good with money, but I’m far more organized and make more so he’s just agreed to let me take over the finances once we tie the knot in January.

Here’s the current idea (taken from the 60% rule from MSN, but adjusted):
-60% joint checking for household expenses
-10% fun money - to personal accounts
-5% short term savings (vacations, holidays, new gadgets, etc.)
-10% long-term savings (home repairs)
-10% debt payment (his, btw)
-5% retirement

These numbers will likely change when we get into the middle of it, but it’s the general idea. When the debt’s paid off, that money would go to retirement.

 
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Miss Sunset

This is a great topic…

We have decided that we will get a joint checking account for family expenses and then each have our own checking accounts for small discretionary items.

I will mostly take care of the finances and since I only pay bills/update the check book twice a month it is too much of a hassle to have both of us using debit cards on the same checking account. Thus, the need for individual accounts as well.

A great piece of advice I received is that no matter who takes care of the finances both husband and wife should know about the process of paying the bills, where the money is located, what is being paid for, etc. So that either person could step in and keep the household financially sound in the event of an emergency.

 
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lauren

Great topic! We put each other on our accounts, and once we are married in November we will be closing out his account because mine has more perks, etc. We will then have a joint checking, 2 separate savings accounts, a joint savings, plus our 2 IRAs :) yikes! The best part was that when we went to WAMU to add me to his account, the teller specifically made it a point to mention that once his account is made into a joint, he cannot undo it- ummm, thanks (I was sitting right there). She then explained she had just been through a nasty divorce. I thought it was hilarious that she was warning him about the potential future implications!

 
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Andrea

We will have one main account that our checks/bills will be from and then each have our own accounts for the monthly “allowance” we will each have outside of household purchases/bills.

 
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lucy

During the beginning of our wedding planning.. the best thing for us was to open up a checking account in order for us to pay for wedding things. We also opened up a joint saving account just so the money in there wasn’t earning any interest.

We still have our own separate checking/saving/mutual fund account.. just so we can still keep a lil of our independence.

 
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Brook

Wonderful post!! But one more thing for me to think about with all the wedding plans! Yikes…

We had originally agreed to a joint account, but I would like us both to have our own spending accounts as well and a savings for rainy days…

I don’t think we will actually get this figured out though until months after the wedding. I think after all the planning and the actually day, we’re going to need some time to just RELAX and be normal again! HA!

 
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Red

We opened a joint account when we moved in together. We still have our individual checking accounts but have agreed to contribute 90% of our earnings to the joint account for all of our living expenses (including food, supplies, gas, mortgage, entertainment, etc.) Only truly personal items like clothes, makeup, boys’ night out, etc. come from our personal accounts. We also have personal credit cards, joint credit cards, separate 401Ks, and joint ING accounts. It’s been 1 year now and the system is working. At the end of the day, though, his money or my money - it’s all the same pot of money.

I think the key, really, is to agree to a system and follow it.

 
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future mre j.o.b

we have various accounts with % deposits.
Our “house and bills” account-2/3 of all income…this pretty much explains itself

Our “relaxation” account-1/6 of all income…this is for eating out and shopping

Our joint savings-1/6 of all income…it is currently being used to pay for our vendors

We also have an individual account we each own. We tend to siphon $100-200 into our personal accounts each paychecks.

We have this as our “we do as we choose” account. Anythings from guying gifts for each other to splurges.

 
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bunnybride

We have his and her money then our money. Joint and separate.

A great book to read if you are interested in something light is “Smart Couples Finish Rich” by Bach. It isn’t about making money it is about managing your money as a couple. The author is a financial advisor and wrote it based on his experience with his wife once they got back from their honeymoon and realized they hadn’t set their financial plan into motion about spending or saving his, her, or their money.

 
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Jessica

We plan on having everything merged. It’s how both of our parents do it, and it would just seem weird to us to have separate money. Currently, I’ve been added to his checking account, and he’s been added to my ING account. I currently have automatic mortgage payments coming out of my checking account, so we’ll keep that open until we move in November, at which point we’ll close all of my banking accounts, and just use his. He’s already been added to my credit cards, but we’re not going to close his cards, since it will hurt his credit score. But there is no “his” money or “my” money - it’s all “ours”.

 
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sally

I will keep my own checking /savings and we have a joint mortgage account. I like my financial independence and the thought of buying FI presents from a joint account where it is 1/2 his money is odd. Also, I like to buy what I like, and no one is going to tell me “dont you have enough choos?”. I think A LOT of women make a HUGE mistake by merging their accounts. Basically, I am the complete opposite of Jessica. People just have their own way of doing things. I know it is still all “our” money.

 
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Chrissie

Thanks for this post, Miss Kiwi! We have had a joint checking account since we moved in together, but we have been married for a couple of months and were still undecided on what to do w the rest of our finances. It’s great to see the different approaches that people are taking!

 
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tto

i agree with red(#14) and sally(#18). i like the concept of maintaining our separate accounts.

right now, we each have a checking and savings, and since moving in together, we created a joint checking to pay the shared bills. we both contribute the same amount to the joint since our incomes are equal. if he’s “treating me” to something, he uses his his separate account and vice versa. so far, this has worked well.

we discussed how this would change if we ever got married. he figured we would join everything up and have 1 checking and 1 savings once we got married, you know, to celebrate the concept of “what’s yours is mine”. but to me, that didn’t make sense…and still doesn’t.

in any case, the conversation got cut short…but i know how important this topic is so he can be sure i’ll bring it up again! (with some good ideas from the post in tow!)

thanks miss kiwi!

 
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Miss Almond

Shortly after getting engaged, we talked about opening up a bank account. We already had one joint credit card. And with the wedding planning, we thought it best to put our funds together. Prior to that, I only had one checking and one savings account. He had one checking, one savings and one 401K account. We decided to not get rid of any of it. But we opened up a joint checking and savings account. We put most of our funds into it. And we set a certain amount to go to each of our personal checking accounts. It is the same amount for both of us. And we do with it what we want. For example, when he went to a bachelor party recently, he used money in his personal account to cover expenses spent there. But the airfare and hotel were covered by our joint fund. It seems to be working out so far. And recently we decided to open up another credit card account. The reasons for it were two fold. One, not everyone takes american express, so we decided we needed a mastercard or visa. The second was to make me the primary card holder. The other credit card has him as the primary card holder. He felt it was only fair that I get to be “in charge” of one of them.

I think in the end, we are all looking to merge our lives and finances but with a bit of autonomy. I like having our separate accounts. I can splurge on random accessories and there is no complaint from my fiance. And vice versa, he may get the iphone and it will come out of his account. We plan to review our financial arrangements next year to see if it is most beneficial to us.

 
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AmandaB

We have been splitting bills since we moved in together 2 years ago, but have separate accounts.

Once we are married, we plan to have a joint account for savings & checking — then some sort of separate account for each of us, to spend however we like. I think the plan is for us to each put all but X dollars of our paycheck into the joint account, and our “allowance” will be in our own separate accounts.

We didn’t know if this was too many accounts - and if we should just have separate credit cards for discretionary spending - but I like the idea of having my own debit card for some reason. It will be quite an adjustment, I’m used to doing whatever I want with my money, not having to justify purchases to anyone…

 


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