Newer blog post
more in Blog
Older blog post
Newer blog post by Mrs. Peony
more by Mrs. Peony (oldest)
Older blog post by Mrs. Peony
Mrs. Peony's Picture
Mrs. Peony, New York Age and Occupation: 27, Marketing Coordinator Fiance's Age and Occupation: 30, QA Engineer Engagement Date: June 28, 2007 Wedding Date: April 18, 2008 Venue: The Fountainhead Blogging Since: August 7, 2007 About Me: Both Mr. Peony and I are huge computer nerds, and our conversations usually consist of the latest gadgets, programming languages, and video games. At the same time, I can also be very girly with an obsession with handbags, makeup, and high heels. And art! I've studied studio art extensively, almost majored in art history, and freelance as a web and graphics designer. Mr. Peony and I are having a ball of a time planning a wedding for 250(!) guests, doing our best to infuse our personalities (geeky chic) with the wishes of our very traditional Asian parents.
About Mrs. Peony

Part I
Part II 

It was my love for cushion cuts that led me to Mark T at Engagement Rings Direct (or ERD). He is affectionately known as “The Cushion King” in the online world of diamonds. People raved about his eye for well-cut diamonds (not just cushions), his very fair prices, and his honesty. And although he is an online vendor, he also has an office which is located in the heart of the NYC diamond district.

When I first tried on rings with Mr. Peony at a Tiffany’s, I saw that the cushions didn’t really look good on my fingers (the Tiffany Lucida and the new Novo are actually types of cushion cuts). I didn’t like the look of large diamonds either - I hardly wear jewelry and I look very young for my age…I just felt uncomfortable with a large ring on my finger. Some women can pull it off, but I can’t. I fell in love with an oval with pear sidestones at Tiffany’s. So before meeting with Mark T, I told him exactly what I wanted and he was able to pull some very beautiful ovals for me.

(Before I continue, I have to say that I’m very lucky to be in NYC. More than 75% of the diamonds sold in the US go through the NYC diamond district at one point or another. So Mark T has a great pool of resources. In addition, his office is in the same building as the GIA’s NYC branch! He can just look at their database of diamonds and run downstairs if he sees something he likes.)

Mark T and his associate both told us that well-cut ovals are very hard to find these days because they are not so popular (cushions and asschers are all the rage these days). When my mother called her jeweler, they confirmed this as well, so we know what they said wasn’t just a sales tactic. However, the ones they pulled for us were all so beautiful that I had a hard time deciding. They were sooo patient with us, showing us the diamonds under different lighting conditions, teaching us how to use a loupe (the jeweler’s magnifier), and sitting with us for over an hour while we made our decision. I immediately fell in love with a 1.50ct oval; however, I felt like I should think about it before we make such a big decision. We asked them to hold the diamond for us.

In the days following, my mother called around to different jewelers to see if they had comparable ovals. Most of them didn’t (good ovals are hard to find), or they wanted thousands more than what Mark had quoted.

So we decided to go with it! When I told them my decision, they told me that it was the first diamond they had pulled for me and they knew I would like it.

I hung out with a bunch of friends recently and they all commented that the pictures I took didn’t do justice - my ring really sparkles like crazy in real life! Ever since he proposed Mr. Peony keeps taking my hand to admire it as well. Diamonds, Part III: Our Experience and Tips :  wedding new york rings Laughin035 laughin035

This past Friday I stopped by ERD to pick up some papers. Mark asked to see my ring again, admired it, and while sitting amongst huge, 3+ct diamonds, he commented that it was one of the best ovals he’d seen quite some time. Diamonds, Part III: Our Experience and Tips :  wedding new york rings Pleased07 pleased07 This made me so happy knowing just how many diamonds he must see every day!

Diamonds, Part III: Our Experience and Tips :  wedding new york rings M96659229

Diamonds, Part III: Our Experience and Tips :  wedding new york rings Z966593 z966593

Diamonds, Part III: Our Experience and Tips :  wedding new york rings Z966594 z966594

Isn’t she a beaut? Diamonds, Part III: Our Experience and Tips :  wedding new york rings Heart206 heart206

Along with ERD, there are other very respectable, trustworthy online vendors as well (online vendors usually have a lot lower prices because they don’t have to deal with the overhead costs as regular jewelry stores). Whiteflash is based in Houston and they specialize in ACA, or A Cut Above diamonds, which are cut especially for them to their specifications. They also recently started carrying X-Factors, which is supposed to be a great (and better) alternative to princess cuts. Good Old Gold is based in Long Island and they’re known to find some of the best diamonds out there while providing tons of documentation on each diamond they sell. They also carry a great selection of Square Hearts & Arrows, which has the performance of a round in a square shape. Another great option is James Allen, which is based in Frederick, MD.

When purchasing a diamond, the worst thing you can do is walk into a jewelry store and pick something they have on display. First, you need to do your research. Then make sure that the diamond you’re interested in is certified by a lab such as GIA or AGS (EGL tends to go soft with their grading so they’re not always recommended). If it is not certified, take it to a reputable appraiser to make sure you’re getting your money’s worth. While looking at diamonds, look at them under various types of lighting. The lights in jewelry stores are deceptive! What may look great in the store may be a dud in normal lighting.

A good jeweler will be honest with you and try their very best to find the best diamond for YOU. They will not try to push more expensive diamonds (in fact, most of the diamonds that ERD showed us were under our budget) nor will they pressure you to buy. All the jewelers above will call in diamonds for you if they do not have something you’re looking for in their stock.

Another important thing is their trade-up policy. All the jewelers above also have lifetime trade-up policies. While I’m very sentimental and I could never trade up my e-ring, some women are more than happy to do so. Some may not have the money for a nice e-ring when they get engaged so they may upgrade for an anniversary later on. Whatever the reason, the point is that these vendors will allow you to trade in your diamond for 100% of the initial purchase price. If you think about it, they will not do this unless they believe in their product - if they sell a sh*tty diamond now, and the person comes back years later to trade it in, it’s the jeweler’s loss. For example, Whiteflash, although they will sell certain diamonds if the customer really wants it, they will tell the customer outright that they believe there are better diamonds out there at the same price. If the customer insists that they buy that inferior diamond, Whiteflash will tell them that the diamond will not be eligible for the lifetime trade-in policy.

In addition, if you’re in the position to get engaged in the near future, try on a bunch of rings beforehand! I LOVED the look of certain shapes, settings, etc in pictures but when I tried them on they looked horrible on my hand. Guys, if you’re trying to surprise your girl, ask her friends what she likes! And don’t be afraid to go into a jewelry store just to look. Even if it is with your significant other. Mr. Peony actually saved money by going to a jewelry store with me beforehand.

When I was still deciding between an oval and a cushion, I read an article about diamond shapes and the personalities of women who wear them. I can’t remember every detail but they said that a round is for very traditional women who are family-oriented. They like to play things safe. The princess is for the modern women: they like to take charge, they are assertive, and they take risks. The oval is for those who are very traditional but like to stand out from the crowd once in a while. They are for those who like to be classic/elegant but unique at the same time (just like me!). The article also said that women who wear ovals make very good wives Diamonds, Part III: Our Experience and Tips :  wedding new york rings Winky020 winky020 - I’m sure Mr. Peony would like that! Anyway, when I read this article, I knew I was an oval girl!

If you have any questions about diamonds at all, feel free to ask! I’d love to help anyone out!

Tags: new-york, rings |
advertisement below
Newer blog post
more in Blog
Older blog post
Newer blog post by Mrs. Peony
more by Mrs. Peony (oldest)
Older blog post by Mrs. Peony

47 Responses to “Diamonds, Part III: Our Experience & Tips”

1 2 3 

1.
Guest Icon
Guest
Jen

Wowie! Gorgeous, Miss Peony!

 
2.
Guest Icon
Guest
tofu

yes, she is a beaut. nice rock! i have a princess cut and i think the personality description is pretty accurate. ;)

 
3.
Guest Icon
Guest
a

Beautiful! I was condering a considering a cushon and an oval too. Can you share the cost of the oval stone?

 
4.
Guest Icon
Guest
E

Am I the only out of touch one who thinks 1.5 is pretty big (you said you didn’t like big diamonds after all)? Would hate to see how tiny you consider mine!

 
5.
Bee Icon
Bee
Miss Peony (message)  314 posts, Helper bee

Thanks everyone for the compliments!

A - If you go to pricescope.com, you can put in your desired diamond specs and you’ll get a huge list of prices from different vendors. Most of these internet vendors have less than 5% markup so it’s a pretty good deal.

E - I think it has a lot to do with your social circle. I live in the NYC area, where most of my friends have 2+ carat diamonds.

 
6.
Guest Icon
Guest
Ouch!

The 4:14 comment to E — OUCH! Uh, we’re not all like that, E!

 
7.
Bee Icon
Bee
Miss Peony (message)  314 posts, Helper bee

Sorry if I offended E or anyone else - I really didn’t mean to. I remember reading once that nationwide, the average engagement ring size is .3 carats, but in NYC, that average jumps to 1.5 carats. But even within the same area there are bound to be large ranges.

A lot of my friends are attorneys or they work in finance where they make tons and tons of moola - some of them can afford a more lavish lifestyle and they choose to do so. However, this isn’t to say that everyone in NYC is wealthy. Again, I apologize if anyone took offense at my comment.

 
8.
Guest Icon
Guest
Jen

i think a good-sized diamond all depends on how it looks on your fingers. it looks very nice on ms. peony’s hand. e-i’m sure yours is beautiful on you too (i would hope every girl thought her own ring is beautiful!).

mine is 1.5 too, which i think is large, but we chose it and the setting also b/c it looked great on my finger size, and looks like it BELONGS on my finger.

but like ms. peony’s previous post, the monetary value of the diamond is based on the 4 c’s - so like all her friends could have 2+ carat diamonds but they could be lower in some of the c’s than others. or not.

i personally think that celebrities that have 24 carat diamond rings look ridiculous esp. since they usually have size 2 fingers! but if they love it and can afford it, whatever works.

 
9.
Guest Icon
Guest
KP

I agree with ouch! We have have differnet budgets and 1.5 is pretty large.

 
10.
Guest Icon
Guest
Jen

and to be extra long-winded, i think the important thing is that your man loves you so much and wants to marry you - whether he can afford a ring or not. i knew girls that only focus on the ring and not the man - which doesn’t really make sense to me.

 
11.
Guest Icon
Guest
Meg

Miss Peony’s comment about regional differences is spot on. I remember reading in one book about a NYC bride who felt her ring was modest while in NYC, but went home to the Midwest, and felt embarrassed about how huge her ring was while she was there- it was as if it had grown at least a carat on the airplane.

 
12.
Bee Icon
Bee
Miss Peony (message)  314 posts, Helper bee

Exactly Jen! I would be lying if I said that I didn’t love my ring; however, I would’ve been happy with just a proposal (sans ring) and his promise to spend the rest of my life with me.

 
13.
Guest Icon
Guest
Kate

I hate being part of “all the rage.” Your 1.5 carat diamond is twice the size of mine, which I consider to be a pretty decent-sized ring.

I can tell that you have a love for diamonds. (It’s hard not to, isn’t it?) However, I might be careful about pairing “educational” text with personal preferences.

 
14.
Guest Icon
Guest
a

Just did. Thanks! Great option for those who want bigger rings on a budget!

 
15.
Guest Icon
Guest
a

What kind of band are you thinking of going with? It’s hard to stack with the oval…that may ultimately be the deciding factor for me.

 
16.
Guest Icon
Guest
Faith

All this info about diamonds and research and stuff makes me kinda glad I have the ring that belonged to my fiance’s grandma! I don’t know how you do it, Miss Peony! I wouldn’t have had the interest to have delved into the research like you did. (It’s like my friend that follows the radio charts really closely because she’s really into music and radio station politics and everything…I don’t get it. :)

Your ring is GORGEOUS. So, soo pretty. I remember when I went shopping with my sister and brother in law years ago when they were looking for the right diamond for her ring in downtown LA. Those jewelry districts are fascinating…

 
17.
Guest Icon
Guest
CC

your ring is beautiful! and i know a lot of girls want 2 carats, etc. (they want it big!) but i think the 1.5 carat you got looks HUGE! such a beautiful ring. :)

 
18.
Mrs. Bee
Bee
Mrs. Bee (message)  3,235 posts, Sugar bee

i don’t think miss peony is implying that her ring is small by any means. a ring is a very personal decision and to each their own right? :)

it’s really tough not to pair educational text with personal preferences when you’re blogging about your personal experiences…

i found this to be a very informative series for ring shopping on any budget! thanks so much for sharing all your research with us miss peony!

 
19.
Guest Icon
Guest
norcalbruin

Miss. Peony, your ring is beautiful and I actually once wanted a similar type of ring but I became obsessed with the setting so I now have a Scott Kay crown setting with pave diamonds band and engraving on the side and round brilliant.

I didn’t take any offense to the size comment considering that in this day in age a “plain, old” 1ct diamond won’t don’t do for some women anymore. My diamond is under a 1ct but because of the quality it still looks gorgeous — that’s what women should be concerned with not just the size. E, I am not criticizing you personally, you are completely entitled your opinion. :) And besides, there is always upgrading as you mentioned Peony and that’s what we plan on doing.

And another thing, my SO went to James Allen for the diamond but bought the setting at a jeweler that I will not name. Initially he was going to get both the setting and the diamond from the jeweler but after doing his research, he went in and noticed their bs about their diamonds that were in fact of poor quality and overpriced. They even went as far as to claim that all diamonds purchased over the internet are laser-altered (this may be true for SOME). To make a long story short, he went elsewhere for the stone so it’s very important for the person or couple looking for a ring because if you’e not careful you could get played.

 
20.
Bee Icon
Bee
Mrs. Plumeria (message)  260 posts, Helper bee

I can understand those who might feel offended when a 1.5 carat stone is seemingly considered “small,” because many people I know have stones .5 carat or less, and their FI worked hard to get that for them! Engagement rings are such treasured personal items. Nobody wants to be feel like their ring, either an existing one or a planned purchase, is inferior to someone else’s, even if the insinuation is unintentional.

That said, I think we all need to understand that qualitative terms like “big” and “small,” when it comes to diamonds, are really relative, especially as presented on a personal blog. And, of course, the important thing is that we each are happy with our own rings without comparing them to others’. It’s also true that, besides price, stone size choice is affected by finger size. I have a 1 carat stone myself, and in my eyes, it is plenty huge because I have a small 3.5 finger… I don’t think I could handle anything larger.

Your ring is gorgeous Miss Peony and I’m glad you love it so much! :) Thanks for sharing your knowledge w/ the hive.

 
1 2 3 

Leave a Reply


You can also just...

Newer blog post
more in Blog
Older blog post
Newer blog post by Mrs. Peony
more by Mrs. Peony (oldest)
Older blog post by Mrs. Peony

Visit our sister sites eHarmony
Online Dating
eHarmony Advice
Dating Advice
Project Wedding
Wedding Songs
JustMommies
Pregnancy Calendar

Copyright 2004-2012, Weddingbee.com
 

Find your vendors on Weddingbee

Real reviews from brides in your area!

Favors by Weddingbee

  • Favors by season

Shop Now »

Mrs. Peony
Mrs. Peony

Mrs. Peony, New York Age and Occupation: 27, Marketing Coordinator Fiance's Age and Occupation: 30, QA Engineer Engagement Date: June 28, 2007 Wedding Date: April 18, 2008 Venue: The Fountainhead Blogging Since: August 7, 2007 About Me: Both Mr. Peony and I are huge computer nerds, and our conversations usually consist of the latest gadgets, programming languages, and video games. At the same time, I can also be very girly with an obsession with handbags, makeup, and high heels. And art! I've studied studio art extensively, almost majored in art history, and freelance as a web and graphics designer. Mr. Peony and I are having a ball of a time planning a wedding for 250(!) guests, doing our best to infuse our personalities (geeky chic) with the wishes of our very traditional Asian parents.

Boards
Classifieds

Blog Calendar
February 2012
SunMonTueWedThuFriSat
2930311234
567891011
12131415161718
19202122232425
26272829

Weddingbee Bios
Wiki
More