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Mrs. Daffodil, San Francisco/Los Angeles Age and Occupation: 26, Nonprofit Strategy Consultant Fiance's Age and Occupation: 26, Resident Physician Engagement Date: December 29, 2006 Wedding Date: May, 2008 Blogging Since: August, 2007 Venue: Church w/ floor-to-ceiling windows overlooking the Valley; Westin in downtown LA About Me: I moved around a lot growing up, but consider myself a Southerner at heart. I love scrapbooking, dancing, doggies, and diet coke. I am all about personalizing everything and hence, I'm a DIY bride who is just loving the entire wedding planning process! Mr. Daffodil and I met in our college fellowship group and were "just friends" for three years before we started dating. We've been together for four years now and can't wait to get married in sunny SoCal, Mr. Daffodil's hometown.
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Whose Wedding Is It Anyway?

August 30th, 2007 @ 9:30 am by Mrs. Daffodil

Part I: Location, location, location! 
Part II: Family Matters

Part III: Get it in writing!

I was in a bit of a bind. On the one hand, part of me was jumping up and down inside and saying, “This is the opportunity you have been waiting for! Tell her that you’ll handle it from here.” and “That’s exactly the problem, it’s not her wedding, it’s yours!” But another voice inside was saying, “This is a test…be careful here,” and yet another voice whispered, “Be more sensitive, she feels really hurt by the both of you.”

I wasn’t sure what the best way to respond would be, so I did the easy thing and stalled. “I will speak with Mr. D,” I said. “We’ll talk everything out and try to figure out what the best roles for everyone would be, and perhaps when we are all in LA together in a few weeks, we can sit down and discuss together.” FMIL seemed satisfied with that answer. I then called Mr. D and he agreed that was the right response; it would be better to talk about all this in person with her. Perhaps we could delegate a couple of roles to her, let her run with those, and we would handle the rest.

Two days later, however, I got some bad news. It had been almost four months since we had laid out our plan with the Hilton. We had negotiated prices, determined the menu, and spelled out all of the details for the contract. At first, they said they would send everything in writing in a couple of weeks. We had wanted to put down our deposit back in March; however, they came back and mentioned they actually had a policy that they could not allow us to sign anything until at least one year prior to the date of the wedding. We were first in line though, they said, and that it wouldn’t be a problem.

We continued to follow up with them regularly (which we had to do as they would continually say they would get back to us in a couple weeks and would never call). Well, the month of May came and went; there were some holdups with the ballroom, but it should get cleared up in a couple of weeks, they kept saying. Then, toward the beginning of June, they asked us to change our wedding date. We were confused at first, until we discovered that they had decided to give out three of their ballrooms to another party who had come to them only a few weeks prior! Which meant that the ballroom we wanted might have to be reserved for corporate conferences, according to their policies. We were absolutely furious! We were later told that the business office was concerned that the corporate conference would bring in more revenue than a wedding would. The Catering department reassured us there was a chance that they could still get us the room, if we would commit to purchasing several hotel room nights.

Out of our desperation for the space, FMIL and I agreed we would. We also offered to invite more guests, and we leveraged all of the connections FMIL had with the staff there as well, but to no avail. The days turned into weeks, and we still weren’t given a confirmation. Then that day, the Catering manager called me and said they were meeting to discuss the ballroom; he’d let me and FMIL know the final decision as soon as it was over. An hour later, he left me a brief message, saying there were still more holdups. I called back immediately to understand what the holdup was. He never called back.

It was up to me to break the news to FMIL. By now (about 11 months away from the wedding), many of the popular venues had already been booked. I knew that as soon as I told her, she would want to move the reception to a Chinese restaurant instead, which as I mentioned before, was the one thing neither Mr. D nor I wanted. I quickly did some additional research on the availability of some more potential sites, and also pulled out a list of some Mandarin caterers that we could potentially hire. Then I called FMIL at her office.

She echoed my frustration, but then tried to comfort me and calmly responded, “Well, when God closes one door, he opens a better door.” Um, OK, I thought, well I just want to make sure that better door isn’t the door to a restaurant. I offered to set up some appointments for us to explore some new sites. As expected, she responded, “oh, don’t worry about making any calls, I already know all of the good restaurants; we’ll take care of it.” I offered to find a good Chinese caterer who could cater Chinese food to a nice location, and she said no - the quality wouldn’t be good enough and it must be at a restaurant. Then I said that it would be too far away for our guests (the restaurants she liked were ~1 hour away from the church) but she said that people will drive for good food.

And then, for the first time, I actually straight up just said No. I said that, to be honest, I just really didn’t want our wedding reception at a restaurant. She paused. And then she told me I should probably get back to work.

The call left me feeling pretty upset, and that night, I had just about had it. I was ready to just do what I wanted to do and not even consult with her anymore.

To be continued.

But just a reminder to everyone that it’s not done until it’s done…unless it’s in writing, signed, and until you’ve put money down, nothing is confirmed! It should be a warning signal if vendors show signs of delay in their response and if the hotel doesn’t spell out a minimum for you to spend (i.e. a minimum amount you need to spend before the room is yours); if they are slow and don’t spell things out clearly, this experience has shown us that they will try to upsell you and jump to a better opportunity as soon as they see one.

For those of you readers who mentioned you were considering the Hilton, I’m afraid this is my first negative review. FMIL actually was a long-time client of theirs, bringing them a lot of business over the years and recommending their restaurant and facilities to her entire network. However, despite her loyalty to the Hilton, they treated us rather poorly, almost never following up with us when they said they would, refusing to give us anything in writing, and upselling us after we had agreed on the details and were assured constantly that we would get the room. About a month later (after not returning any of our calls), they did come back to us saying we could now have the room if we wanted, but by that time, we had already booked a better venue smiley1067. If you have already confirmed your wedding with them, then I encourage you to just confirm confirm confirm. You can share with them what you heard about our experience if you like, as I hope that they can learn to provide their clients with better service!

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14 Responses to “Whose Wedding Is It Anyway?”

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Sarahdoo

good for you for standing up for yourself!

sad that it’s come to that, but it sounds like if you don’t your going to have her wedding all over again.

 
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x

i really wish you’d just post all “parts” of this saga at one time - or atleast say theres only one part left- i cannot stand the constant cliffhangers! (in a good way, it means i like ur writing and the story!)

 
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Miss Peony

Hi FMIL and I have similar problems in that she wants a very traditional Chinese wedding and I just want a western one. Even when we decided to do a separate Chinese wedding, she still wanted us to incorporate Chinese traditions into the western one (which, when my parents found out, responded with “well if you’re doing that in Chinese we want a Korean version too”). Such a headache! Mr. Peony and I are still in the process of talking with her and trying to think of a compromise that will make everyone happy.

 
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Faithsista (message)  44 posts, Newbee

I’m with x! Give us the rest of the story, dammit! :D

And I don’t know how you put up with the Hilton dealing with you like that. Ridiculous!

Cannot WAIT to hear about the venue you finally wound up going with!

 
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JJ

Wow, you have the patience of a saint…I would have lost it a long time ago.

And good call on taking your business away from the Hilton. If they treat you that badly while they’re trying to get your business, imagine the attention they’ll give you when they’ve already got the check…vendors like that suck!

 
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Miss Daffodil (message)  561 posts, Busy bee

haha my bad, x and faithsista…don’t worry, there’s only one more part to the story left!! i had written everything all at once but split it up into four parts so as not to overwhelm you all, as each of these have been such long entries already :P. i’m so glad to hear you guys are enjoying them!! :-)

 
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Tea

oh thank goodness. i want to know what happens. lol. i’m so hooked on this story.

i had to lol @ “i just wanted to make sure that better door isn’t the door to a restuarant”

 
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doleju

thanks for sharing your experience with us! i am one of those that was considering the hilton (only because his grandmother wants it there =P)… i will definitely keep you and your experience in mind when meeting them!

 
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Jonnie

You sure do have a lot of patience. I would have given the Hilton the big middle finger and a lot of four letter words to go along with it a lot sooner in the stringing along process. I am glad you found a better place- when we hear about it!

I have to say that I have only read parts II and III of this saga and I think your FMIL sounds like a sweet lady despite all the back and forth between you two.

 
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Miss Daffodil (message)  561 posts, Busy bee

Jonnie, you are totally right…she is definitely a very sweet lady who has the best intentions! :-) we just have some differing viewpoints, so it’s just been a challenge to get on common ground. i’ll conclude this saga tomorrow hehe :P

 
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Fran

i wonder what FMIL’s relationship is with the Hilton now? does she tell her network not to go there anymore?

 
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Miss Daffodil (message)  561 posts, Busy bee

haha oh yes she is adamant about it. in fact, she is not even attending her nephew’s wedding banquet that’s going to be next weekend! her entire extended family has promised never to set foot in there again after that wedding…:P

 
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aoedorothee

wow, i’m really happy for you that you were able to stand your ground and just say no. it’s an impt lesson to learn in life right? i’m still learning… :\

 


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