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Mrs. Caramel, Los Angeles Age and Occupation: 24, Art Gallery/Museums Fiance's Age and Occupation: 24, Engineer Engagement Date: January 8, 2007 Wedding Date: October 6, 2007 Venue: a beautiful church and hotel reception About Me: I love dancing, singing, eating out, eating in, surfing on the net, and brainstorming fantastic ideas. I also love cats, coffee, and know every quote written on Sex & the City. I'm known to laugh really loud and have really crazy hand gestures while I talk. My fiance writes songs and I take pictures. What else? We're just a crazy young couple in love, trying to make a fabulous wedding!
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Marriage… What A Concept!

November 20th, 2007 @ 5:53 pm by Mrs. Caramel

I got to thinking about the concept of marriage…. how crazy and insane of an idea it is!  Two random, unrelated (hopefully!) people are supposed to live and breathe next to each other for the rest of their lives.  At your wedding, you’re not only marrying your husband, but you’re marrying his past, his parents, his siblings, and everyone involved in his life.  It’s weird to think that I have two mothers and two fathers now. As I shook hands with a tiny grandma who had been a part of his childhood, I wondered what kind of child Mr. Caramel was like.

I also wondered how much of our childhood grows and becomes a huge part with us in our marriage. For example, Mr. Caramel’s parents are divorced and my parents don’t exactly have the perfect marriage. In fact, I would say that they’re only together because of my sister and I. If you grew up watching an imperfect or dysfunctional marriage, does that make you cynical and pessimistic about your own marriage? Or does it make you more determined to make a great marriage?

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Angel (message)  1,263 posts, Bumble bee

I said I was never going to get married. Not that I had anything against it, but I just didn’t think it would be for me since I had such high expectations.

My parents divorced and remarried, but none of the marriages had/have the kind of respect, consideration, communication, best friendishness, and love that I thought ought to be in a good relationship. I even wrote a letter to my future self (dramatic teen that I was) saying how cool being in love would be, but that it probably wouldn’t happen to me….that stuff like that was only in the movies.

And here I am…in love and married. My mom used to tell me, when I was young, that the man I was going to marry was growing up just like I was. I tried, but to couldn’t imagine it. I remember the different times she said that and asked my guy where he was in his life at that time. It’s kind of cool to compare.

It did make me careful about my relationship. I labeled everything verbally (okay were friends, okay you’re my best friend, we’re dating etc.) so there was no communication issues and followed the rules I created for myself to make sure I was being true to me. Sounds like a lot, but basically I held onto my ideals and he met them. Truth be told, he exceeded them. My wonderful man.

 
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Great question, I’m curious about that too…it’s hard to watch the very evident example of your parents with a failed marriage (or at least one you yourself wouldn’t want to end up in) and then be open and give yourself fully in a relationship. I think my parents are like yours, Miss Caramel, and there’s always that underlying apprehension for me. As a result, I tend to give up easily, which probably drives my bf crazy.

 
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dubz

miss caramel! it was great to meet you week before last over our little exchange!

i think your topic rings very true for a lot of us- and it’s funny because i seem to be in your exact shoes, thinking of the same things this past weekend! i believe that in my case, we have looked at the failed and imprefect marriages around us with a weary eye- taking note of things that we should acknowledge and address early, and head-on. working towards an understanding is usually all it takes, minus pride, with a dash of learning how to not take things so seriously (which is what i have to work on!)…

ahh… it takes work to make it work (well)!

 
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Techie Bride

I am in a very similar situation—my fiance’s parents are divorced (one is remarried), and my own parents… well, they definitely struggle at times. I absolutely think that this has had a profound affect on both of us and the way we handle our own relationships.

Romantically, we both admit to having been very… cautious in the past. Even wary. Even to a fault sometimes. In terms of the “norm,” we’re getting married a bit later in life than the average couple. I am 31 and he is 37. But I think that our tendency to hesitate in our separate lives before we met enabled us to find each other in the end.

And I also think it makes us that much more confident that we truly belong together—We don’t want to become our parents, and we don’t want our future children to see what we saw (I don’t mean to bad mouth our families here, we both had wonderful childhoods for the most part and very much felt loved!), and we feel sure and secure enough with each other to trust that won’t happen.

 
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Pei

I don’t know why I never noticed it, but at least half of my parents’ close friends have marriages that are considered by most to be less than ideal: divorces, remarriages, separations, long distance marriages, etc. Somehow, it never affected my belief that a happy marriage and family were possible and important. So I think it is possible to grow up oblivious to all the unhappiness around you, and to keep a very ideal sense of what love means. My fiance says it’s not being oblivious, but learning from others’ mistakes.

 
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Nopinkertons

Both our parents are still married, but neither pair has what either my fiance or I would call an ideal relationship. I think it did make us both more cautious about relationships–we are even older than Techie Bride, 37 and 43. And our siblings, too, all waited until their 40s to get married. Sometimes I wonder if divorce is better for the kids than allowing them to watch you lose respect for each other until they lose respect for you, too. I guess that’s a different debate. In any case, I think we both have very clear ideas of how we do not want to be treated, and how we feel we should treat each other. I hope this will lead to a happier marriage–otherwise I wouldn’t be taking the leap!

 
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JCM9608 (message)  544 posts, Busy bee

A lot of the environment I grew up in, both with what my mom has said and her friends, have been really negative about “finding someone” and being able to see it through to the end.

It makes me so much more determined to make things work (not out of a huge desire just to prove anyone wrong) because I’d like to believe that happiness can still be found and in your control.

 
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Kate

My parents had an awful marriage and the experience has inspired me to want a good one. I’ve always wanted “my own family” so I can escape the screwed up one I come from.

Of course, we all screw up our kids in different ways without realizing it. It’s scary! All you can do is hope, though, and try from the beginning to build a very strong foundation both in your marriage and later as a parent.

I also believe that you HAVE to go into with the idea that divorce is not an option. An easy out will always have a stronger pull than sticking with it in the hard times you’ll surely run in to.

 
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Jennifer

My parents have been very happily married for 20+ years, but I still have realistic expectations for love and marriage (I hope that I don’t end up in a failed marriage, but know that the possibility is out there). At the same time, my bf’s parents are divorced and both are remarried, but at the same time he is an incredible romantic and has high hopes for our future together (which helps balance out my realistic side!) So I think what you learn from parents’ experiences can have a big effect, but also your personal mindset/experiences as well.

 
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benay

i think it’s a crap shoot. there’s no formula. you have just as good a chance to stay married to someone you met in the parking lot 24 hours previous than someone you dated for years. i can’t decide if that makes me relieved or depressed.

 
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Rhonda

Interesting question. One that I have thought about often. My parents stayed married until, unfortunately, my father passed away when I was 15. I’ve been married, divorced, and now remarried. I think watching a “dysfunctional” marriage growing up or see your parents get divorced can result in different outcomes. It might make you more cautious going into a marriage to make sure you got it right before you commit or it can result in you thinking of divorce as an easy option to get out of an unhappy situation. But growing up in a dysfunctional home might also cause you to “seek out” a dysfunctional relationship too. So, I don’t think there is a “canned” answer.

 

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Mrs. Caramel, Los Angeles Age and Occupation: 24, Art Gallery/Museums Fiance's Age and Occupation: 24, Engineer Engagement Date: January 8, 2007 Wedding Date: October 6, 2007 Venue: a beautiful church and hotel reception About Me: I love dancing, singing, eating out, eating in, surfing on the net, and brainstorming fantastic ideas. I also love cats, coffee, and know every quote written on Sex & the City. I'm known to laugh really loud and have really crazy hand gestures while I talk. My fiance writes songs and I take pictures. What else? We're just a crazy young couple in love, trying to make a fabulous wedding!

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