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Mrs. Tiramisu, Annapolis, MD/Maine Age and Occupation: 26, Eye Doctor Fiance's Age and Occupation: 26, Project Manager/Real Estate Management grad student Engagement Date: May 15, 2007 Wedding Date: July, 2008 Blogging Since: March 4, 2008 Venue: Oceanfront lawn and tent About Me: I was born and raised in Maine, now living in Annapolis, Maryland and planning a hometown wedding from afar. I’m nothing short of obsessed with wedding planning, and am loving the do-it-yourself madness that has now taken over my life! As for me, I’m a craft-loving, martini-drinking, girly-girl who loves traveling, photography, my schnauzer, and above all, spending time with Mr. Tiramisu.
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Advice From The Pros

May 2nd, 2008 @ 3:32 pm by Mrs. Tiramisu

I’m completing my last rotation before I graduate from Optometry school in a Veterans Hospital. My passion in my field is kiddos, so I was pretty sure before I started that I was going to hate this particular placement. And to be honest, I will be happy to get back to what I love. But in the meantime I have to say I’ve met some pretty interesting old guys!

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Out of the hundreds of patients I’ve seen in my six months here, maybe only 4 or 5 have been women. And I’d say the average age of my patients has been around the 70-year mark, with a fair share of 80 and 90 year-olds. So sure, a lot of them are grumpy, a lot are really sick, and a lot have way too much to worry about in their own lives to get into a conversation with their bumbling student intern about her upcoming nuptials. I know it’s not all rainbows for these guys, a lot of whom have lost their spouses or never married, so I’m never one to bring it up. But I have been totally shocked that there are a fair number who either notice my engagement ring- or inquire about my singleness for one of their grand (or great-grand!) children- and ask me about myself.

Each time that I’ve gotten into a conversation with one of them about marriage, it’s been so cool. Without a single exception, they’ve been excited, supportive, and ready to impart their hard-earned wisdom to me. I especially love it when one of the veterans is accompanied by a wife who joins in the conversation. One of my favorite examples was a 88 year old man who was accompanied by his adorable- also elderly- wife. He entered my room and introduced her as his girlfriend, to which she laughed, (I’m sure having heard the joke before), and said I had to promise not to tell his wife, since she’d been his “girlfriend” for 60 years! Just yesterday I saw a patient, who at 86 was getting ready to celebrate his 65th wedding anniversary, “this coming September 21st”. How cool that he was proudly anticipating the day (and knew the date!) already.

So whenever I get the chance, I ask these husbands what the secret is. What’s the key to such a long marriage? Some of my favorite responses are about affection- yesterday’s veteran told me the importance of kissing his wife every night before he goes to bed. I’ve also heard that it’s crucial to hold hands in public, as a way to announce to the world- the cute lady over here? she’s definitely taken. Then there’s the popular ‘never go to bed angry’ mantra.

In my totally scientific research on the subject of advice though, I’ve found that mostly the old men fall in one of two categories. The first is what one elderly man with seventeen great-grandchildren told me when I asked him what the secret to his long marriage was- “Communicate. There’s no sense keeping anything from your best friend”. The other camp disagrees. Yesterday’s veteran (of war, and of 65 years of marriage) told me the key was to, and I quote: “Button. Your. Lip.” He said that he always thinks long and hard before complaining or bringing something up that would stir the pot. In fact, in watching his 5 children’s marriages (3 or 4 were on their second or third marriages), he thought they made too many comments back and forth and spoke their minds too often. He had found that he was better off letting his wife think she was right most of the time, even if he thought otherwise.

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Mr. Tiramisu and I fall on the communication side of the line. He knows what I’m thinking almost all of the time, because I tell him, and he does the same. He is really my best friend, so I have a hard time keeping anything from him. I really think that keeping each other in the know about what we’re thinking has been the most important aspect to our relationship in our seven years together so far. You’ll have to ask me again though in 50 or 60 years if I feel the same way!

Which do you think is more crucial to building a long-lasting marriage? I was quick to say communication, but there is probably some merit to limiting criticism or complaining to when it’s really necessary. Speak up - or don’t - what do you think?

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13 Responses to “Advice From The Pros”

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Laura

“Communicate. There’s no sense keeping anything from your best friend”

That totally gave me goosebumps. How sweet! I love seeing older couples together and hearing the kind of stories that you’ve shared.

I think the secret involves a lot from Column A and a little from Column B. Everyone gets in a foul mood once in awhile and you probably say things at times that you would love to take back about 10 minutes later (For me its usually about 30 seconds later) so holding your tongue isn’t bad advice at that certain grumpy moment.

 
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crispet1

As long as you speak up with respect, I dont see much of a problem with it.

 
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Miss Gingerbread (message)  647 posts, Busy bee

What a cute post! My grandparents are celebrating their 65th anniversary this year. My grandpa will be reading an excerpt from “The Art of a Good Marriage”, by Wilferd Arlan Peterson at our wedding.

“A good marriage must be created.
In marriage the “little” things are the big things.
It is never being too old to hold hands.
It is remembering to say, “I love you” at least once a day.
It is never going to sleep angry.
It is having a mutual sense of values, and common objectives.
It is standing together and facing the world.
It is forming a circle that gathers in the whole family.
It is speaking words of appreciation, and demonstrating gratitude in
thoughtful ways.
It is having the capacity to forgive and forget.
It is giving each other an atmosphere in which each can grow.
It is a common search for the good and the beautiful.
It is not only marrying the right person — it is being the right partner.”

 
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tberry (message)  487 posts, Helper bee

I’m in the communicate camp most of the time. There are some times that I believe in the “button your lip” side though.
For instance, ” I told you sos” should always be left unspoke and when your angry it is often better to be quiet and let yourself cool down before letting the other person know why you are angry.

 
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Angel (message)  1,252 posts, Bumble bee

Miss Gingerbread, that was part of our ceremony. :)

We say communication right off the bat. But I don’t think that’s the crucial part. Follow through is. Sometimes knowing what you should do and actually doing it is hard. Yes, I know I should tell him why I’m upset or yes, he should tell me what I did…but sometimes being upset is just easier. Even when we know better. So I’m going to say follow through on the relationship rules you have for yourselves.

 
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FutureMrsJOS

What a great post. Too often, it is easy to get wrapped up in planning a wedding and not plan for the actual marriage.

Personally, I think what is really important is not being too proud to say you are sorry. For me and my FI, we are able to admit when we are wrong or can accept how something we have said could have been taken another way. This aspect of communication has let us build a really strong relationship that I am sure will carry us through our marriage.

 
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Getmarried4Less

with the popular communication, I also think that ‘committment’ and ‘respect’ are right there high on the list.

you have to be committed to each other to stay….even when things are bad. even when things are bad for a long time.

you have to respect one another. So many hurt feelings are caused by disrespect.

 
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Tdot

I have to agree, this is a fabulous post - the point of getting married seems to get completely lost in all the details. When my moms best friend got married the first time, my mom was the MOH and she said when she was standing at the back of the aisle, ready to walk down, her last comment to my mom was “the flowers are all wrong!” That marriage lasted less than 5 years. My mom was again her MOH the second time, and her last comment before her walk down the aisle (which this time was in a back yard) was “look at how good he is with Monica (her daughter)!” That marriage is 16 years old now and going strong…

I think it is really important to remember what creating all this beauty is really about! I only say that because I sometimes have a hard time remembering myself…

 
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Natalie

I would say both are very important. Communication is key for all the reasons mentioned, but buttoning your lip is just as important. If I brought up every little annoying little thing my husband did, I would seem really negative and it would become a bigger deal than it is. If something is really bothersome or frustrating, I think it is worth talking about respectfully. However, I’m sure we all know those couples that bring up every criticism and it leaves them both bitter, uncomfortable and even resentful. Choosing your battles is just as important as open communication.

 
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Francine

We are pretty firmly in the button your lip camp.

Our mantra is that words are actions, but actions are also words. Essentially, think about what you’re gonna say before you say it, and what the effect will be, but also think about your attitude and actions too, because they should back up what you say.

 
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Erin

I do research at a medical center adjacent to a VA hospital. My bus commute is typically packed with veterans, and I’ve enjoyed many conversations with them as well. My coworkers and I refer to their advice, comments, and tidbits as “random bus knowledge.” You never know what the topic du jour will be, but I almost always hear something new!

 
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Miss Cupcake (message)  1,167 posts, Bumble bee

What a sweet post, Miss Tiramisu!

I definitely, definitely say communication is key. Mr. Cupcake can tell by my body language or tone if I’m annoyed at him but haven’t said anything, so trying to hide our feelings would be useless! We are good at talking through (and usually laughing through) our issues, and we love just gabbing like best friends do. Without some disagreements and debates once in a while, it would be boring!

 
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vailbride

I love this:) I’ve also gotten some really good advice from those who have been married for a lonnng time- I think that the main point I’ve taken from it is that you have to forgive. If you don’t, it’ll just build up and we all know that’s notttt good. Thanks for the thoughts!

 


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