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Mrs. Hot Cocoa, Boston/Los Angeles Age and Occupation: 31, JD/PhD Student Fiance's Age and Occupation: 32, Medical Student Engagement Date: May 30, 2008 Wedding Date: March, 2009 Blogging Since: April, 2008 Venue: Ritz Carlton, Marina Del Rey About Me: I am a professional student by day and an amateur cupcake taster, bargain shopper, and wedding planner by night. I am obsessed with NPR, the Food Network, paper, dance shows, Anthropologie, post-structuralist theory, Weddingbee!, "The Office," and celebrity gossip. When not procrastinating from my dissertation, I spend time catering to Jellyby, our overly anxious shih tzu, and getting to know Mr. Hot Cocoa. We have only been dating for fifteen years, so it's like I'm in love with a stranger! From the East Coast, we are planning a Jewish-Chinese Extravaganza in L.A., where we both grew up.
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Bargains with Dignity

August 4th, 2008 @ 10:57 am by Mrs. Hot Cocoa

This is a post in which the usually carefree Miss Haute Cocoa takes a break from her tour of great bargain shopping experiences to kvetch about a not so great one: the bridal boutique that shall not be named. It’s no secret that Miss Haute Cocoa has champagne tastes on a Martinelli budget. So when she heard about a boutique near Boston that boasts “couture gown shopping at off the rack pricing,” she thought, “Sssweeeeet — that’s practically my motto! I’ve found bridal heaven.”

Her experience there was more like the fourth circle of the Inferno.

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[The prodigal and the miserly in the fourth circle. Image source.]

I was already a bit nervous walking into the boutique because, although it’s pretty and spacious, it reeked of stale smoke (not so great for a place that sells gowns off the rack). The boutique owner was well meaning (I suppose) but blunt to the point of rudeness. First, when I told her that my ideal dress was a particular Monique Lhuillier, she cackled (seriously, cackled) and told me that I clearly didn’t know what I was talking about. “People in the wedding industry know that there’s no reason to pay for the labels and that it’s all about the materials.” Probably true. But that’s a pretty harsh way to welcome a customer! She then proceeded to put me in a number of itchy polyester and crinoline monstrosities that made my butt look so huge it needed a different zip code. Oy.

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[Image source. Thankfully, they didn’t allow photos at the boutique that shall not be named. But I’m fairly certain I looked something like this, complete with the butt pouches and the doubled-over-in-pain look.]

The danger sign in my head started flashing big time when she told me to dismiss the opinions of the two friends who had accompanied me, opining that “everything they are saying is all wrong” (verbatim quote) and that they had “no idea” what worked for my body type. She then basically told me to dismiss my own intuitions about the dress. She put me in a ballgown with so much business going on up top and down below that it was like a multilevel disco in Miami on New Year. After I said that the dress was pretty, but just not “me,” she said I wasn’t “really seeing” the dress. She then proceeded to roll her eyes at my friend’s comments that the dress was too “traditionally bridal.” “This is not at all traditional,” she retorted, in a tone that made clear that we had about as much sartorial knowledge as Papa Smurf.

The last straw was when she corrected my pronunciation (um, who does that?) of alencon (a-lon-son) lace, insisting that it was pronounced a-len-ce-lon. For realz.

Don’t get me wrong: I appreciate the expertise of someone who has been working in the wedding industry for a long time. But it’s one thing to share expertise and advice, and another to be insulting. Maybe this type of disciplinarian hard sell works for some, but for me it was a total turn-off. I felt besieged. Sure, there was a lovely Paloma Blanca there that was priced quite reasonably, and the boutique had some beautiful Pronovias gowns as well. But no discount is worth tolerating this kind of rudeness, right?

Thankfully, this was the only shop I went to that made me feel like I should have to put up with rude service or a not-me type of dress because I didn’t want to pay regular retail prices. I write this post to assure those of you out there who are looking for an affordable gown that bad service is not coincident with low prices, that there are places where you can find a beautiful gown at your budget and still be treated with respect and kindness. So if you are still looking, don’t despair! And look out for my next post, which will be about purchasing gorgeous couture gowns online.

Did you have a less-than-awesome bridal shopping experience? What happened? Did you walk out or did you smile and bear it like we did? Come, tell your stories of woe to Miss Hot Cocoa. You’ll get nothing but sympathy.

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11 Responses to “Bargains with Dignity”

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sayithot (message)  87 posts, Worker bee

I’m so sorry that happened to you! I had a similar experience myself. My first trip to try on dresses was a couture bridal boutique. They are a closed rack shop and when I asked to try on more than 3 dresses my salesperson said, “If you want to try on a bunch of dresses, you really should go to David’s Bridal.” I was so upset that she would be so discouraging and snobby. Although they carry the designer who created my dress, I ended up finding another boutique an hour and a half way (in a different state) just so I could feel good about who I was giving my money to.

 
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Katie

I had an awful experience-the bridal shop cut out all the tags from the dresses and wouldn’t tell me who the designer was. I told them I needed to send a picture to my out of state mom for confirmation. Then I found out from some online reviews that they weren’t even authorized to carry the designer (I ended up finding out who the designer was). I found the dress across town for $500 less so they told me they would price match. When I went in to have them price match, they told me I didn’t know what I was talking about and that I must have been lying!!! OMG

Needless to say, I lost my deposit but the entire time, even though they knew I wanted “the dress”, they kept trying to sell me on their in house designer. SO AWFUL!

 
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lulubelle (message)  173 posts, Blushing bee

Ugh, that is so awful! I can’t believe some of the stories that I hear from brides– you’d think that these stores would have some kind of clue about customer service, you know?

I am glad you decided to take your business elsewhere. Businesses that employ such sourpusses shouldn’t be encouraged.

 
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cannotwait (message)  1,036 posts, Bumble bee

I was made to feel like my $1000 or less was pitiful by the same lady that made me feel fat (5′10″ & street size 12)….needless to say, they are not getting my business

 
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frenchbulldog (message)  6,063 posts, Bee Keeper

I’ve had 2 awful experiences @ the same bridal (VERY POPULAR) shop in my area. The first was in high school for my deb ball, the second was for a bride’s maid dress and the third time was recently when I went there (agaist my better judgement) to check out dresses from a designer who only have her dresses in about 8 bridal salons across the US. Although I love this designer I’m not reconsidering purchasing one of her designs b/c of where I would have to buy it.

 
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Shasha

*A MUST READ*

Oh my Lord girl, I FEEL your pain. Here’s my tale of woe:

I made an appt. at the very shop where my dear friend Jessie found her dress about 2 years before. I went with my mother, FMIL and Jessie.

We get there and there wasn’t even a formal hello. I stood by for a minute before I said I had made an appt.. The crazy shop owner get on the phone and leaves us all with an “is she serious” expression. We all started looking for gowns ourselves and my mother helped me in and out.

Crazy shop owner….STILL on the phone.

After 3 gowns, I’m over it. I’m in a bad mood and want to hurry up and leave. Jessie whips around the corner with a “one more” look on her face.

So I suck it up and throw it on. As it turns out THAT was “THE ONE!” I started doing a happy dance and didn’t want to take it off.

Enter crazy shop owner, who starts to sell me the floor sample. “Umm….no. Just order a new one.”

“I’m not sure I can get it. Its will be over one thousand but I will give you that one for 600″ (have I mentioned my mother and I alone stepped on it twice with crunching beads).

To make an already long story short: my girl Jessie went and wrote all the dress info down and tracked down a leaflet that had the gown in it. Under my mothers advice I went online and found a BRAND NEW one for less the FOUR HUNDRED!!

I went to DiscountBridal dot com.

The customer service was AMAZING!

If you or someone you know need a gown that you saw in a shop….CHECK THEM OUT. For realz!

…Better get back to work now.

 
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rokianokia

Oh, and it is pronounced (a-lon-son) like you said. Crazy lady is wrong.

 
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Miss Hot Cocoa (message)  1,715 posts, Bumble bee

Ugh. I’m mad on all of your behalf!

@Katie: What that store owner did is not only annoying but against the provisions of the Textile Act: http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/buspubs/wedgown.shtm. I can’t believe they stole your deposit!!

 
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Miss Sea Breeze (message)  912 posts, Busy bee

[...]so much business going on up top and down below that it was like a multilevel disco in Miami on New Year[...] - girl, that was PRICE. LESS. Sha-ZAAM!

 
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HappiestOne (message)  132 posts, Blushing bee

I had 2 bad experiences. One was at a well known place in our state that came with the highest of recommendations. I’d called for an appointment and the woman who took my name seemed genuinely happy to have me come in. She asked me what I was looking for, what kind of budget I had and the style of my event. When I told her she said, “Oh! I have several dresses in mind! I’ll pull them and we can take a look when you come in!”

When I got there, no dresses were pulled, there were a handful in my budget and none like the description that I had given her of what I was looking for. Also the lady that was supposed to help me wasn’t there and I was given to someone else.The tags were all removed from the gowns, so you didn’t know what was what. Also the dress I liked most looked like a copy of a gown I’d tried on elsewhere for half as much money.

The 2nd experience was at David’s Bridal. I couldn’t handle all the other brides and gals around gawking and comparing their dress/figure/looks/budget to everyone else. I left in tears after trying on 2 dresses. Even though I’m a relatively in shape, slender gal, I couldn’t bring myself to come out of the changing room, in dresses that didn’t fit correctly, in front of peering strangers. It was awful. Not the shop’s fault tho, my own insecurity. Oh well.

 
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Miss Avocado (message)  1,407 posts, Bumble bee

“You can’t have a birdcage veil, you must have a long $$$$ veil, you just won’t look like a bride in a birdcage veil”. Seriously, sometimes these sales ladies…..

 


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