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Mrs. Green Tea, Sacramento Age and Occupation: 30, Tea Analyst Fiance's Age and Occupation: 31, Coffee Critic Engagement Date: November 17, 2006 Wedding Date: August 23, 2008 Blogging Since: June 10, 2008 Venue: Vineyard on the Delta About Me: I'm just your average obsessive compulsive, arts & crafts loving, funky-on-the-inside/boring-on-the-outside girl, who dares to say 'Hey! I can make that!' Nerdy professional by day, goofy won-ton by night. The won-ton sometimes comes out during the day when I'm fed the dollar breakfast at Ikea. Since our engagement, wedding planning has put me on high alert for bargains and I've been pushing my nimble fingers through callous building experiments!
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Over lunch with my family yesterday, the topic of babies came up. When I told my grandma about us not planning on having children, she replied with a mix of surprise and disapproval in her voice, “then why do you bother getting married?!”

The no-win situation:

  • When you’re dating they say you should get married
  • When you’re married they say you should have a kid
  • When you have a kid they say you should have more
  • When you want no kids they ask why you bother with marriage

I don’t want kids. I’m met with shock and awe each time someone finds that out for the first time, as if it’s some heinous crime I plan to commit. I’ve actually known this for a long time, but no one took me seriously at age 16. I thought the dismissals would die down as I got older, but instead folks are now rushing to save me from myself before my eggs fossilize.

I have many logical reasons why I do not want to be a mother that I used to defend my decision with. But now more than ever, at the half-past-ripe age of 30, I am not only tired of giving justifications that never seem to suffice, I am a little irritated for constantly being told that this very personal decision I (and now we) have made is the wrong one. There is even talk of a pool amongst my co-workers to bet on when I will be pregnant. I wish I could get in on it, but ‘never’ is apparently not a betting option.

I actually LOVE babies, but much prefer OPBs (other people’s babies). You know, the kind you can just play with for a couple of hours and then return to their parents for the diaper change? We are surrounded by OPBs and we visit them as much as we can. With all our friends having babies and us getting married, the question of “When are you having yours?” often comes up and is usually followed by the “Oh you’ll change your mind” after our response.

I understand that most people find procreation a necessary part of life (and I’m glad they do since that results in adorable OPBs!), but I am having a difficult time with peoples’ innate judgment against our decision. No one knows better than ourselves whether parenting life is right for us. This choice (of whether to have / when to have / how many to have) should not only be up to us, but I feel it is one that also deserves support and respect! Am I alone?

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Kira

Thank you, thank you, thank you! We are also planning on not having children. Ever. Thankfully we haven’t received much pressure, but I know we will from MIL in a few years. I don’t know why it seems to be so shocking to people.

 
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Miss Cherry Pie (message)  887 posts, Busy bee

Just tell them that you’re childfree, not childless. And don’t let them bingo you… it’s just as bad as assuming that someone who’s gay just hasn’t “met the right girl/guy.” That “you’ll change your mind” crap is so offensive.

 
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maureen9004 (message)  2,461 posts, Buzzing bee

I’m unsure about children, and my fiance doesn’t dare tell his mother. To tell you the truth, I don’t know if I will have the time to be a great mother. I personally don’t want to put my kids in day care while I work, and I don’t want to give up my job to take care of a family.
I think people should respect our decisions!

 
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Jenniferb

I respect your decision. More importantly to me, however, is when did it become okay to question each other in such a manner? Our relationship, procreation views, career paths, etc are not open for discussion. I am forever amazed at the casual-ness that has seeped into our everyday lives!

 
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CCR

Miss Green Tea, you’re not alone! I could’ve written this post myself. I’m also 30 and my fiance and I decided long ago that we will not be having kids. Yet, when this topic comes up, people either act like our (very personal) decision is an afront to them, or that we’ll change our minds as we get older. Neither of which are the case. I just wish people would respect our decision, as we respect their choices. Best of luck dealing with this!

 
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Janna19 (message)  2,458 posts, Buzzing bee

As someone who is thinking through this whole to-have or not-to-have decision herself - I would love to hear your thought process/reasons for choosing not to if you should feel like blogging about it one day!! It could help all of us who haven’t yet figured it out.

I not only commend making the decision that is right for you, but for being open about it, as it clearly is not easy! Sadly, people will always judge those that are different - but I do think it is becoming more accepted for people to make the conscious “Do we want kids?” decision vs. the old “we are married, let’s have kids” route our parents generation followed with little thought….

 
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Ariel

I have a kid, that I love and adore, wouldn’t trade for the world, but THAT’S ME!
I can’t for the life of me for a second think of judging anyone else for wanting OR not wanting kids!

 
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beanchar

We are and will remain “childfree” too— and I too have ALWAYS known I didn’t want children of my own.

Instead of belittliing those of us who choose not to procreate, I wish that more people would focus on the parents who didn’t really think about how suited they were to the task and are thus raising brats.

Sorry, that sounds a little rant-y, but I think FAR too many people just assume that they have what it takes to be good parents. We knew we didn’t and also that we didn’t want to make the sacrifices required.

Some say that’s selfish, I say it’s just honest— and it’s not like we don’t have enough people on the planet already, so the human race will go on without my tossing my DNA in the gene pool.

 
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Tara

Good for you! We do want kids, but we’ve been together 10 years, married for 5, and honestly? I’d love to put it off as long as possible :) I so wish biology weren’t a factor. I’m having way too much fun being free and enjoying this time with my husband — “just us.” I completely see the appeal :)

 
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Emily

You’re very much not alone, Miss Green Tea, my man and I don’t want children either. I typically avoid the topic, but now that our wedding is on the horizon, it’s almost impossible, and I, too am constantly met with surprise and hostility about it. Some people just brush it off with a “you’ll change your mind” type of comment, while others get very defensive, as if they’re scared of the idea that a woman could choose what to do (and NOT to do) with her own uterus. I wish I had good advice for how to deal with the negative reactions you (and many others of us) are getting (other than a few snarky and not very constructive retorts, I’ve got nothing, haha), but either way, know that you’re not alone!

 
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joyfulgirl (message)  23 posts, Newbee

omg, i could have written this post. big big love and ups from joyfulgirl and joyful husband (who is unbeknownst to my parents and most of our friends, snip-snipped!). <3

 
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Shawn

We always respond that, “we have a chihuahua.” I find that the same people ask if we’re going to have children over and over, and pretend as if the previous conversation where I mentioned that, “another dog would be nice, but no, no children will be involved” never even happened.

Frankly, I do the same thing to couples who are not married, it’s not right for me to hound them about popping the question, and yet I do it anyway…hmm, maybe I’ll stop that.

 
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joyfulgirl (message)  23 posts, Newbee

also, miss cherry pie seems to be keen to the bingo-lingo…is she CF as well? ^_^ we have a whole crew here in indy of CF couples. it’s good times.

 
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Emily

It does baffle me that people want to demand you have kids after saying you would prefer not to have them. Not to say you’re choosing it because you think you would be a bad parent, but it wouldn’t really help if you knew for so long you didn’t want them.

I must say though that my dad didn’t want kids. He was in his late 20s when his sister had a kid. It was then he said something clicked inside of him that having a family is what life was all about. He then tried to convince my mom to have five kids instead of just two. I can imagine that someone believing that growing a family is what is most important in life would want you to share the same experience and not “miss out.”

 
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clare

I am with you on the no-kids as well… I love kids but I just don’t want any. I am always amazed how many people think if you don’t want kids that you are somehow criticizing their decision to have kids! We have talked about adopting one day maybe but the few times I have mentioned this to family members who have asked when we will have kids they scoff and make some awful comment about adopted kids being screwed up! Pah.

 
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StefM

I definitely want kids, but only now that I am madly, crazily in love with my soon-to-be husband do I see the appeal in not having them. We definitely enjoy our Sunday mornings exactly as they are. Then again, on the flip side I’m excited to someday (some very far off day) make a person who is half me and half my absolute favorite person in the world. I think it’s totally understandable to decide what you’ve decided (and awesome you found a partner who feels the same way)…I think you really ought to figure out a way to get in on that pool at work though!

 
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paisana

Lord, no, you’re not alone. I have gotten way past being nice about taking the “oh, you’ll change your mind” comments. People will start pushing and I’ll turn to the DH and say things along the lines of, “Do you think if we had one we could name it Buckethead Jolie-Pitt, but insist that it’s pronounced ‘Steve’?” and he will keep up the joke about all the –fictional!!!– horrible things we’d do as parents to convince them of our horrible parenting skills to be. ;-) People usually don’t push again.

 
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MissBanana

I’m also irritated by the “you’ll change your mind” attitude. This usually comes from friends who want kids *so bad* that they can’t imagine not wanting them, so I don’t take it personally. But I’ve never once felt the urge to tell them that they’ll change their mind…

Telling them that we’re getting snipped usually shuts down the topic. I highly recommend it. ;)

 
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maggiebride

I totally respect your POV, Miss Green Tea. I’m not certain I want kids, but I feel intense pressure from family, friends and biology. :(

If it’s not too personal, how does Mr. GT feel about it? You mentioned that you knew you didn’t want children as early as 15 years old. Was being child-free something you guys discussed early on in your relationship?

 
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Christine

You are so NOT alone! FI and I don’t want kids, either, and we’ve been upfront about that (when asked) for the past 10 years that we’ve been together. When someone presses on with, “why not?”, I simply answer, “because.”

The thing that irritates me the most is when people say, with this all-knowing air about them, “you’ll change your mind.” No one would ever tell a couple that says, “oh, we want kids soon!” that “they’ll change their mind.” Why the double standard? Why judge what’s right and what’s wrong?

 
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Mrs. Green Tea, Sacramento Age and Occupation: 30, Tea Analyst Fiance's Age and Occupation: 31, Coffee Critic Engagement Date: November 17, 2006 Wedding Date: August 23, 2008 Blogging Since: June 10, 2008 Venue: Vineyard on the Delta About Me: I'm just your average obsessive compulsive, arts & crafts loving, funky-on-the-inside/boring-on-the-outside girl, who dares to say 'Hey! I can make that!' Nerdy professional by day, goofy won-ton by night. The won-ton sometimes comes out during the day when I'm fed the dollar breakfast at Ikea. Since our engagement, wedding planning has put me on high alert for bargains and I've been pushing my nimble fingers through callous building experiments!

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