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Mr. Mango, Los Angeles Age and Occupation: 27, Stem Cell/Nanotechnology Researcher Fiance's Age and Occupation: 21, Political Scientist Engagement Date: June 12, 2008 Wedding Date: December 2008 Blogging Since: August 4, 2008 Venue: Picking between 2 About Me: It's not who I am underneath, but what I do, that defines me (cheesy Batman reference). I'm a Pakistani-American who lives his life as a nerdy scientist by day, and a nerdy artist by night. According to many, I'm as "metro" as they come, and that's probably why I'm so interested in all this wedding business. Honestly, I've become a bit of a "groomzilla". I'm here to prove that we, as grooms, actually can work a Gocco, plan a wedding meal, create breathtaking centerpieces, and rock a dress, just as good as my female counterparts (well maybe not the last one).
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A Cheap Stay

August 11th, 2008 @ 5:43 pm by Mr. Mango

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Planning a wedding can be quite hard on the ’ole money belt and, for me, every penny saved goes a long way. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve scanned my online budget spreadsheets to see if I could shave off a couple of hundred dollars here and there. I have one condition for any money-saving schemes, and that is never to compromise quality or hospitality.

I’m a firm believer that if you work hard enough and conduct enough research (glory to Google), you can save money without compromising your “dream wedding”. An example is the growing cost associated with lodging for guests and even yourself. In our case, we have a bunch of OOTers coming in from a number of states. We had agreed that we would pay for two nights of lodging and it would be a great help to us if they could pay any extra nights. Of course, our home is always open to them. As a ballpark figure, given that at least five families are coming from out of state, and that we will need hotels for the bridal party, I would say that we will need about six rooms for two nights, equalling 12 room charges. Now that can really add up if you think about it.

One resource that I’ve found, and used excessively in the past years, is discount travel websites. Yes, I’m talking about the cheesy Shatner commercials and the annoying traveling gnome. Out of the cornucopia of online travel websites, the sites that I have come to use more often are Priceline, Hotwire, and TripAdvisor. All three of these websites have been around for quite some time now and I have probably taken over 40-50 trips booked through these sites. Since I am focusing on hotels, I want to also introduce my most coveted resource for reserving hotel rooms, Betterbidding. Before I explain how Betterbidding works, let me cover Priceline and Hotwire. Both Priceline and Hotwire are websites that either buy blocks of hotel rooms across the world at discounted rates or use third party services to get discounts. In any case, you save money going through them. Are there any drawbacks? Sure! Well, for one, you probably can’t get any of those neat-o loyalty program points from hotel reward programs because you aren’t going directly through them.

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So how does it work? Let’s take for example, Priceline.com. When you log on to priceline.com, you see a wide number of options to choose from like: flights, hotels, cars, vacations, and cruises. Since we are looking for a place for our guests to stay, we’re going to click on “hotels” (easy, ain’t it ?!). So from here, you can enter in all the necessary information and get a list of hotels with competitive pricing, but that’s not where you save the big bucks.

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If you look on the priceline website, you will see a “Name your own price” icon, that’s basically the “X” that marks the spot of the treasure chest. You’re going to want to click on that. Now, you enter the necessary information and you will be taken to a screen that shows you a map of nearby destinations.

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In step 1, you pick all the areas that you want the site to search rooms in. In step 2, you denote what room star rating you are looking for, and in step 3, you name a price that you are willing to pay. OK, so what’s the catch? Well, you don’t know exactly what room you are going to get, nor do you know what hotel chain you will receive from. If your bid is accepted, you will be given a hotel room that is in one of the areas that you requested and retains a minimum star rating, which you chose earlier.

What I recommend is take the price of an average room at that star rating and in the specified area, then take 50% off of that and bid! After you submit your bid, you will be taken to an initial confirmation screen.

Then it’s time to initial and move on to enter your credit card information. Remember: you are now in a binding contract if you win, so it doesn’t matter if you don’t like the hotel that they give you, or your plans change, or you simply had a guest cancel. You’re committed.

OK, so then the system searches for a room, and if you succeed, you are shown a screen like this:

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Else, they just tell you that you didn’t receive a room.

So this post was supposed to helpful, right? That’s where Betterbidding.com enters. Since Priceline.com doesn’t tell you what hotel you are staying at until you successfully bid for it, the nice folks at Betterbidding.com simply record what areas they have bid on and the star rating, how much they bid, and whether they were successful or not. How cool is that? So for example, when you log on to Betterbidding.com, you can scroll down and pick your state, or city, and find submitted Priceline requests and whether or not they were successful.

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This takes some of the guessing out of sites like Priceline or Hotwire. For example, you could go to “California”, and then go to “ORANGE COUNTY - PRICELINE” and I could see all the recent bid wins, such as this:

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3* Orange County (Costa Mesa-Irvine) Doubletree Santa Ana
$45 … 8/8/08-8/10/08

So now, when I go back to bid on these sites, I have a very good idea what I will get if I bid in the same amount and the same dates. I will, however, say that no system is perfect and there may be a chance you may not get that same exact deal or hotel, but it’s worth a try.

Another great thing about Betterbidding is that they have a compiled list of every hotel that Priceline and/or Hotwire uses, based on user submissions. This can be a great option for those that are looking for a specific area.

Here’s my ultimate tip: Let’s say that you are bidding on a hotel in, let’s say, Los Angeles. So you bid, and you’re cheap like me, and wind up with a message like this:

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Now what this is, is Priceline telling you that your bid is not accepted and if you want to bid again, you must change your search criteria by either a) lowering your star rating, or b) adding more areas. This is probably to prevent any search flooding. Well, why would you want to increase the area and possibly risk being farther away from the destination of your choice? Well, this can actually work to your advantage. Let’s say you are looking for a 4-star hotel in Los Angeles, near the airport, and you bid too low. Priceline then asks you to change your criteria. At this point, you can just go to Betterbidding and scan their Priceline list for the hotels in the areas nearby Los Angeles. Find an area that does not have a 4-star hotel on Priceline, such as Santa Monica, and then add that area. This way you are not gambling anything because Priceline can never hand you a hotel that is less than the star rating that you are bidding on (it says so in their policy). So basically, you have one more shot at it. Keep adding more areas that don’t have a 4-star hotel and you will get more chances to get the hotel you want. Also, using the Betterbidding hotel list, you can also have a really good idea of exactly what hotel you will be staying at.

I hope some of this made sense and also will save you all some money. Remember, embrace the crazy and fun resources that the internet provides for your own wedding savings. That, and be a cheapskate, albeit secretly.

Any tips for great deals on wedding accommodations out there?  Share with us in the comments!

20 Responses to “A Cheap Stay”

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Mrs. Tiramisu says:

Great post Mr. Mango- Mr. T uses better bidding .com all the time and it’s been awesome! Thanks for the tips about getting multiple tries at bidding!

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AliCherri1 says:

Ditto Mrs Tiramisu! GREAT post Mr. Mango = very informative :) Thank you!

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Vic004 says:

Thank you for the hot tips, I never knew how priceline worked and was always kind of scared of it. With where I am at in my wedding, the info in your post is like gold!!

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Jeeyol says:

I don’t know if this will help anyone but in our town, my fiance works for a subsidiary of one of the major manufacturers. He had mentioned to me at one point that when he stays somewhere on business, a certain well known hotel chain has a corporate discount rate for all of the employees. When we toured the hotel facilities, I asked about blocking off rooms for guests and how much it would be. They gave me a rate of $89/night. I mentioned that fiance worked for said company and about the corporate discount and after checking they said they could block off the rooms at a rate of $45 per night. That was a huge break for us since most of our family will be coming from out of town. So be sure to check with employers of anyone related to the wedding because it really pays off.

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lunapark says:

Super useful post - thanks Mr. M! I’ve been booking hotels for our honeymoon lately and one tip I can offer for those traveling internationally is to use websites like Priceline, Hotwire, Hotels.com, etc. to book your hotels beforehand because you can use your credit card to pay in American dollars and don’t have to worry about either paying a credit surcharge when you get there or by booking direct.

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jj2980 says:

Wonderful explaination! I’ve always stayed away from priceline b/c I didn’t know how to bid. Really appreciate it!

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kathy says:

Another option for budget travel is to rent an apartment or house rather than stay in a hotel room. It depends on the guests you have coming and the location of your wedding, but in many cities this is becoming a more and more popular option. My fiance and I are planning a destination wedding in Europe, and groups of our friends and family members are planning to rent apartments together for a long weekend. This can be an economical way for 4 or 6 people to stay together for a few days, with the added bonus that staying in a real home rather than a hotel can give you a unique taste of what it feels like to live in a different place! I recommend it!

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BD says:

The other thing you can do is call hotels you’re interested in directly and negotiate with them. Tell them you need at least 12 room nights and you’ll get some kind of deal - it ought to be at least 10% off of their AAA or senior citizen rate, or whatever “best rate” you can get online.

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Mr. Mango says:

@kathy: That’s actually a really good point.

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rs0518 says:

Thanks for the info, Mr. Mango. I use Priceline a lot, but I never knew about the better bidding website. This is very helpful!

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Fran says:

Another option (similar to Kathy’s) would be to look into hotels for business travelers / extended stay hotels (they might not be glamorous, but usually have a kitchenette, etc. that might be good for families).

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Mrs. Tulip says:

Yes, yes, yes! I’ve never stayed at in a wedding “room block” because I simply can’t afford the choices. We went to one wedding where Priceline got us the SAME hotel that had blocked rooms, but at $100 less/night.

For our own wedding, we chose not to block rooms and instead put a ton of accommodation info on our wedding website. I listed some Priceline/Hotwire buying strategies (including which neighborhoods were the best bets), but I don’t know that anyone took advantage.

Our absolute go-to resource is Travelzoo (www.travelzoo.com), which aggregates all sorts of travel deals. Every time Travelzoo listed a good deal on a good place, I posted it to our website. Because the deals changed every few weeks, people wound up in 3-4 different hotels, but the prices all hovered around $100/night (great deals for DC), and everyone was extremely pleased with their choices. We even used Travelzoo deals for our own wedding accommodations and for all but one night of our honeymoon!

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lethie says:

I am so glad you wrote this. I am in the process of looking for hotels in Hawaii and boy are they expensive. I will definitely be using this to get a better deal. Thanks!

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danathebride says:

YES! Good job, Mr. Mango. Nice.

Biddingfortravel.com works the same way, if you ever want a 2nd opinion :)

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beanchar says:

@kathy: I am a BIG fan of staying in “self-catering apartments” and have had good luck with both Vacation Rentals By Owner ( http://www.vrbo.com/ ) and Homelidays ( http://www.homelidays.com/EN-Holidays-Rental/100_Home/Home.asp ).

I am also a recent convert to Priceline. Having conquered my natural aversion to William Shatner, we just returned from 4 nights in Boston at a lovely boutique hotel + 2 airline tickets for a whopping $667 TOTAL. I also scored us tickets to Italy in November for about $700 each.

So thank you, Captain James T. Kirk. I will never mock you again.

And thanks Mango for the heads up on Betterbidding.com . I have a new bookmark! :)

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amanda j. says:

try http://www.kayak.com
i swear it will save you even more time.

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MissyJenn says:

Thank you for the explanation. I’ve always preferred to stay away from these kinds of sites, Priceline..orbitz, etc…b/c they seem so risky. For the wedding i’m attending, I got my hotel room through the normal root for 2x as much as my friend who got it through priceline. GRRRRR…….but it seems like betterbidding is much better than priceline, if i’m reading your post right…I’ll have to check it out. I get ansy over having to hand over credit-card info when you don’t know what you’re getting..

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Natasha says:

I used BetterBidding and Priceline in my recent vacations, and I love them!

You forgot to mention, however, that if your bid was rejected, if you have the time to wait, you can wait the 24 hours or whatever it is and try again the next day. Which would work if you can’t find a nearby area that doesn’t have 4-star hotels or what have you. :)

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SarahB says:

Betterbidding wow, thanks for enlightening to something I’ve never heard of. Another great option if your able to is to book a hotel as early as possible. I try to shoot for 2 month ahead of my trip to try to get the best deal. But I am curious do you have a favorite hotel? The reason I ask is because I work for Hampton Inn and I’m always curious about how other places treat the patrons and also I wanted to tell you about our current promotion ;-D

Hampton Inn is offering 10% of their best rate available until 9/1/08 we’re also giving away some great prizes leading up to the TEAM USA competing at the Olympic Games. Good Luck!!

http://hamptoninn.hilton.com/en/hp/promotions/hx_summerpromo08/index.jhtml;jsessionid=SXEZ4FIZDCG4OCSGBJF2VCQ?it=specials,dreams&cid=om,hx,dreams,specials

Sarah B

P.S.

Check out this funny video, called “Ballad of a Traveler”, it is hilarious. He totally sums up the travelers experience:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2tgnUsj8NE>

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Mr. Mango Mr. Mango, Los Angeles Age and Occupation: 27, Stem Cell/Nanotechnology Researcher Fiance's Age and Occupation: 21, Political Scientist Engagement Date: June 12, 2008 Wedding Date: December 2008 Blogging Since: August 4, 2008 Venue: Picking between 2 About Me: It's not who I am underneath, but what I do, that defines me (cheesy Batman reference). I'm a Pakistani-American who lives his life as a nerdy scientist by day, and a nerdy artist by night. According to many, I'm as "metro" as they come, and that's probably why I'm so interested in all this wedding business. Honestly, I've become a bit of a "groomzilla". I'm here to prove that we, as grooms, actually can work a Gocco, plan a wedding meal, create breathtaking centerpieces, and rock a dress, just as good as my female counterparts (well maybe not the last one).