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Mrs. Hot Cocoa, Boston/Los Angeles Age and Occupation: 31, JD/PhD Student Fiance's Age and Occupation: 32, Medical Student Engagement Date: May 30, 2008 Wedding Date: March, 2009 Blogging Since: April, 2008 Venue: Ritz Carlton, Marina Del Rey About Me: I am a professional student by day and an amateur cupcake taster, bargain shopper, and wedding planner by night. I am obsessed with NPR, the Food Network, paper, dance shows, Anthropologie, post-structuralist theory, Weddingbee!, "The Office," and celebrity gossip. When not procrastinating from my dissertation, I spend time catering to Jellyby, our overly anxious shih tzu, and getting to know Mr. Hot Cocoa. We have only been dating for fifteen years, so it's like I'm in love with a stranger! From the East Coast, we are planning a Jewish-Chinese Extravaganza in L.A., where we both grew up.
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(M)engagement Rings?

August 16th, 2008 @ 6:04 pm by Mrs. Hot Cocoa

Some of you might have noticed while reading the Hot Cocoa engagement story post that there are two rings in this photo: an engagement ring on my finger (yes, that Oompa Loompa set of appendages does belong to me, not a four-year-old gnome child) and a band on Mr. Hot Cocoa’s finger. Do not adjust your browsers. That shiny washer on Mr. HC’s digit is, indeed, an engagement ring. From me. To him.

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When we started talking about getting engaged and going through the process of selecting a pretty bauble for my finger, I started feeling somewhat sad for Mr. HC that he wouldn’t get some shiny thing of his own. Why shouldn’t he have a token of my commitment and love too? And truthfully, Little Miss Snarky (my bad, bad alter ego) also thought that it seemed unfair that I should have to be “marked” as off-the-market, while Mr. HC gets to sally forth unchanged.

Then there’s also the fascinating theory I read about in law school of how the custom of giving an engagement ring only to women came about. WAIT - don’t stop reading! I swear it’s good! Prof. Margaret Brinig (in an article you can download here) points out that in the olden days, if a man broke off an engagement, a woman could sue him for breach of promise. BOP was not just about a jilted lover’s sweet revenge; in the days when women needed to remain a virgin to be marriageable, this civil action gave men an incentive to go through with the wedding and women some measure of financial support if the engagement fell through after, um, some hanky panky. But in the 1930s, BOP was legislated out of existence. Hence the need for some expensive doodad — a performance bond, if you will — to keep grooms honest. (And it helps that, as discussed in this must-read Slate piece, the 1930s were when DeBeers began its “A Diamond is Forever” campaign.)

Anyway, I decided I could do without a (one-way) performance bond; Mr. HC has seen me at my worst and hasn’t run yet (I mean, he’s sometimes hid in horror, closed his eyes, or fled the apartment temporarily, but he always came back — sucker!). And the feminist troublemaker in me liked the symbolic value of exchanging rings.

So I contacted Etsy seller imakecutestuff and ordered one of her custom “secret promise rings.” It’s a simple sterling silver band that’s inscribed with a hidden message inside.

(M)engagement Rings? :  wedding los angeles rings Il 430xI had it inscribed with “Have a little faith, there’s magic in the night,” a quote from one of our favorite Springsteen songs. And sometime after Mr. HC proposed with his ring, I proposed with mine.

Since Mr. HC can’t wear any jewelry to the hospital (which is pretty much where he is every hour of every day as a med student), he hasn’t really been wearing his pretty shiny thing. In truth, he also thinks it’s a bit weird, even if he completely endorses the sentiment behind it. Despite this, I kind of like the idea that he has it.

Any of you get or think about getting a mengagement ring? Does the term “mengagement ring,” which I’m totally claiming as my own, btw, make you giggle — like man-purse (murse) or man-bra (bro)? Did you stop reading when I put “fascinating” and “law school” in one sentence? Sorry — it won’t happen again, I promise.

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kayteebug (message)  55 posts, Worker bee

Oh I totally want to mark my boy with a ring. And now I can say “I saw it on the internet, it’s a new trend.”

Thanks.

 
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PinkCupcake

AWWWWW i love this because the Christmas my Fiance and I were 17 we exchanged engagement rings =] !!!

 
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Librarygirl2

I got my fiance a watch as an engagement gift. It was meaningful to us, becuase he had given me the time I needed to myself in the right place to be ready for sharing our lives together.

He doesn’t wear it everyday, but when he does, it makes me smile.

 
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julieulie (message)  266 posts, Helper bee

Is it just a rule that med students at his hospital aren’t permitted to wear jewelry? That just caught my eye as I was reading the post.. definitely not a policy here — my husband has never had an issue wearing his ring in the hospital. I know a few of his friends opt not to because they wash their hands so frequently (and I actually choose not to wear my engagement or wedding band because I find it uncomfortable under gloves), but it’s not hospital policy. Just wondering if it’s something we’ll face when we switch hospitals later on in life… or if it’s just something they torture medical students with, and my husband gets out of it now that he’s an actual doctor.

 
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MsAnge (message)  124 posts, Blushing bee

I haven’t found the right ring in my price range yet, but I definitely like the idea of my fiance having a ring of his own, exactly because I hate being “marked” by my ring while there’s no indication on his hand that he’s taken as well! I almost picked him up a really silly and cheap mood ring (it had triceratopses on it!), but none of the rings looked big enough to fit his hands. :-(

 
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amysue (message)  1,492 posts, Bumble bee

I got my FI a Wii. : )

a male friend had a “mangagement” ring but it was confusing - it was a simple band he wore on his left ring finger, and everyone thought he was already married.

 
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Nicole R.

I like the idea and think it’s sweet!

 
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Erin

I got my fiance an engagement ring too! I figured it wasn’t fair for me to get a ring and not him, he deserved one too. I had it before he asked me so after he asked me, we got home that night and I “asked him” and gave him his ring. In line with our sense of humor I had it engraved with “Gotcha now sucka!” on the inside.

 
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historybride

I’ve never understood why men don’t get engagement rings. My guy felt left out! He already had a claddagh ring that I’d given him for his birthday that he really liked, and he said that two rings was too much “bling,” so he just switched his ring to his other hand once we got engaged. He gets sad when he can’t wear it on his left hand in the winter because it’s too big.

 
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mrsbear (message)  166 posts, Blushing bee

Julieulie: my FI and I are both medical students, and our school has the policy that when you start your clinical clerkships, you can only wear rings on one finger, essentially (so technically I could wear my wedding and engagement rings on one finger, but if i chose to wear them on separate fingers, that would not be allowed). The only times in med school where you are absolutely not allowed to wear rings is when you are in surgery - you cannot scrub in with jewelry on your hands, not that you would want to use a rough-bristled brush on your rings!! Other than surgeons, I know of no other physicians that are forbidden to wear rings as a general policy. Hot Cocoa’s FI might simply find it easier not to wear a ring because he washes his hands and uses purell all the time, and sterling silver doesn’t stand up to that sort of abuse the same way gold or platinum does.

that being said, I know women who wear their diamond rings as medical students but they quickly give it up during internship, and then start wearing their engagement rings again during residency.

 
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mrsbear (message)  166 posts, Blushing bee

whoops, you would think that more than a year after marriage i would be used to calling mrbear my husband instead of FI…

 
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Catherine

My husband is Swedish. In Sweden, many couples are engaged for a number of years and men wear engagement rings. Most use that ring later as a wedding ring (as my husband does) but some men wear two rings once they are married.

They also have a word for a cohabitated, committed relationship so that you don’t have to call your long-term boyfriend, your boyfriend.

 
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Amy

Crazy! I’m a law student and actually had Prof. Brinig for contracts. She definitely brought up the history of engagement rings and all of the law surrounding what happens in the event the engagement ends before marriage. So strange to see that article pop up on Weddingbee!

 
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ustwiggie (message)  137 posts, Blushing bee

My fiance is Catholic Nepali, and all the men wear a mangagement ring/wedding ring from the time they’re engaged. I think it’s great and I’m going to pick out our mangagement ring in two weeks! Eek!

 
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brendalynn

I’ve defnitely heard about e-rings standing in for breach of promise–that, along with the idea of being “marked” has always made me want to get my FI his own e-ring. He actually wants one too! Not just because he thinks it might be cool to have a little bling, but because he actually wants to be “marked” like I am…

love this post! More “fascinating” and “law school” please!

 
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Miss Sweet Tea (message)  461 posts, Helper bee

Mengagement ring- cute! Mr. ST and I have been wearing matching white gold bands on our right hands the past two years… I guess this is his mengagement ring!

 
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beaninca

i thought this was normal—i bought him a ring day after he proposed. of COURSE he wears one too.

 
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Miss Hot Cocoa (message)  2,077 posts, Buzzing bee

@Librarygirl2 and @amysue: A watch is a great idea, as is a Wii. I think Mr. HC might have preferred either! LOL.
@julieulie and : @mrsbear: Yep, as Mrs. Bear said, he just doesn’t find it convenient to wear a sterling silver germ catcher around the hospital all day. ;-) He actually wore it quite a bit on ambulatory.
@Erin: Love the inscription!
@historybride: I love that he actually wants to wear it as an engagement ring!
@Catherine and @ustwiggie: Thanks for sharing. I’m now going to tell Mr. HC that we are either Swedish or Catholic Nepali, so that he’ll wear his e-ring!
@Amy and @brendalynn: Next on weddingbee: “Property rules, liability rules, and inalienability: one view of the cathedral.”

 
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missx (message)  57 posts, Worker bee

After a friend of mine proposed, his fiance gave him a pair of engagement shoes!

 
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Mrs. DG (message)  8,491 posts, Bee Keeper

C. is wearing an engagement ring. I call it “Boy Bling”. You can see it on my blog. Its beautiful, its from etsy, and we love it!

 
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Mrs. Hot Cocoa, Boston/Los Angeles Age and Occupation: 31, JD/PhD Student Fiance's Age and Occupation: 32, Medical Student Engagement Date: May 30, 2008 Wedding Date: March, 2009 Blogging Since: April, 2008 Venue: Ritz Carlton, Marina Del Rey About Me: I am a professional student by day and an amateur cupcake taster, bargain shopper, and wedding planner by night. I am obsessed with NPR, the Food Network, paper, dance shows, Anthropologie, post-structuralist theory, Weddingbee!, "The Office," and celebrity gossip. When not procrastinating from my dissertation, I spend time catering to Jellyby, our overly anxious shih tzu, and getting to know Mr. Hot Cocoa. We have only been dating for fifteen years, so it's like I'm in love with a stranger! From the East Coast, we are planning a Jewish-Chinese Extravaganza in L.A., where we both grew up.

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