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Mrs. Cream Puff, San Francisco Bay Area Age and Occupation: 25, Illustrator Fiance's Age and Occupation: 31, Merchandise Planner Engagement Date: May 27, 2007 Wedding Date: August, 2008 Blogging Since: February 7, 2008 Venue: Ceremony at Crissy Field and Reception at the Green Room About Me: I never dreamed about my wedding as a little girl because I was too busy playing in the mud or pretending to be Martha Stewart–but now that it's here, I'm having a fabulous time DIYing everything in sight! We’re planning a very fun multicultural wedding (I'm Jewish and Mr. Cream Puff is Chinese), filled with as many personal details as I can muster.
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I Changed My Mind: Formal Portraits

August 20th, 2008 @ 6:06 pm by Mrs. Cream Puff

Originally, Mr. Cream Puff and I made the decision that we would see one another before our ceremony for formal pictures. We did this to be practical, even though we both would prefer to see each other for the first time at the ceremony.

Well, when we changed photographers, we also changed our minds. “Screw practicality!” we said. We decided to wait to see one another until the ceremony. This left us (read = me) with the task of figuring out how to schedule the photography sessions so that we didn’t miss our cocktail hour, which was also important to us. Here’s what I came up with:

Our first photography session was to take place before the ceremony, at or around our hotel. There would be two separate groups–me with my bridesmaids and parents, and the groom with his groomsmen and parents. The schedule went a little something like this:

Bride with bridesmaids, formal
Bride with bridesmaids, silly glasses (these are disguise glasses left over from the proposal)
Bride with bridesmaids and flowers
Bride with officiant
Bride with officiant and bridesmaids
Bride with SIL
All BMs look away, bride at camera (a request of Mr. Cream Puff)

—-release SIL and officiant to join Groom’s group—-

Bride with parents
Bride portraits
Bride with bouquet

GROOM’S GROUP:

Groom with parents
Groom portraits
Groom with Groomsmen, formal
Groom with Groomsmen, silly glasses
Groom with each groomsman
Groomsman portraits, if time

—SIL Puff and Officiant arrive—

Groom with officiant
Groom with sister
Groom with parents and sister

The second photography session was to take place after the trolley tour, at the Green Room. The guests would be at the cocktail hour. This session was designed to be done quickly.

Bride with groomsmen
Groom with bridesmaids
All bridal party with bride and groom, formal
All bridal party with bride and groom, funny glasses
All bridal party with all parents and bride and groom
–release bridal party, except for SIL Puff—

Bride and Groom with Groom’s parents and sister
—release SIL—

Bride with Groom’s parents
Groom with Bride’s parents
Bride and Groom with Bride’s parents
Bride and Groom with Groom’s parents
Bride and Groom, Groom’s parents, Bride’s parents, formal
Bride and Groom, Groom’s parents, Bride’s parents, all kiss

Bride and Groom with disguises

Genius, right?

Unfortunately, none of this worked out. Like, NONE of it. The first schedule was screwed up because SIL Puff disappeared with one of the groomsmen. We obviously couldn’t take the group shots without a bridesmaid or a groomsmen, and our photographer didn’t want the pictures of me with the bridesmaids to look inconsistent because they were shot in different locations. Before the ceremony, we just took portraits of me alone and Mr. Cream Puff alone. This left all of the other pictures to be taken during cocktail hour.

After the ceremony, however, a block of time ended up opening up at Crissy Field because the trolleys weren’t ready to go (more on this later). We were able to take the bridesmaid pictures there.

When we got to the Green Room, however, there were so many pictures to be taken that we missed the entire cocktail hour. It sucked. I was sad, but hey, what are you gonna do? Nothing to be done! We also didn’t have any of the disguise glasses with us (I have no idea where they went) and we were over it at that point anyway.

I do think this could have worked out better, if a few things had been different. I should have been more anal about having people actually look at that part of the day on the schedule, so they knew where they were supposed to be. Don’t assume that anyone actually reads anything you give them. In retrospect, I probably could have scheduled it all a bit better, taking into account when the flowers arrived and all. I think that if the first photography schedule had gone right, we wouldn’t have missed the entire cocktail hour. Oh well.

Honestly, no bones about it–formal pictures suck. They are super painful and it takes FOREVER because you’d pretty much rather be doing anything else than taking pictures (at least, that’s how I felt). However, these are the photos that people will be displaying on their mantles for years to come. They’re a necessity. A painful necessity, but a necessity nonetheless. So my advice to myself (and my dad, who really hated the formals) was this: suck it up. You’ll be glad you have them. :)

17 Responses to “I Changed My Mind: Formal Portraits”

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shannamt says:

If you could do it again would you have seen Mr. CP before the ceremony to do all of the formals? Just wondering because I’m on the fence.

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danathebride says:

Hmmm…. SIL cupcake and groomsman’s disappearance sounds mighty suspicious - hanky panky maybe? :P :x Broke-ass Bride

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bob says:

As an assistant wedding photog, I can honestly say, IT DOESN’T HAVE TO GO THAT WAY!
Here’s a typical schedule:
After ceremony, bride and groom have photos done with parents and siblings. Then relatives are dismissed to go to cocktail hour or check in to hotel room.
Next are bride and groom and bridal party shots.
Then JUST brides and bridesmaids. (groomsmen watch)
THEN just Groom and groomsmen (bridesmaids watch)
Then bridal party is dismissed (usually they go in the limo and party).
Then photo does formal shots of bride and groom.

Folks, this should take 30 minutes. An hour tops.

You should schedule a small gap between ceremony and reception (AND NO RECEIVING LINE). Maybe have champagne and strawberries at the reception before the cocktail hour.

Don’t make this part too complicated (too many backdrops, too many relatives, too many RULES). Don’t give your photog too many specifics. Trust in your decision to book with them (get referrals).

In my 4 years on the job, my photo hasn’t had 1 bride or groom who has missed their cocktail hour.

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StefM says:

It’s so funny…I couldn’t give a rats behind about getting any formal pictures other than maybe a few with me and the gals, and me with my groom. I’ll do some with our parents too just cuz they will probably want them, but otherwise, I know I’m only going to want to look at the unposed stuff anyway. If someone is dying to have a mantle-quality photo (which is such in their minds), they can communicate that then and there and we’ll try to jump in for a pic with them. Pictures are such a pain…

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Mrs. Cream Puff says:

@shanna–I honestly wouldn’t have done anything differently. A lot of the problem was that we were late arriving anyway (this was because of the aforementioned trolley problem). The moment of seeing Mr. CP for the first time is something I will never forget, and he said time kind of stopped for him. I would never take that back, and neither would he. :)

@dana–I think so too!! Scandal!

@bob–I totally agree, it doesn’t have to happen that way. The issue was most definitely NOT my photographer, or my list of photos–they were pretty much what you detailed above…the only thing we added was the disguise glasses (which we ended up taking out) and a few extras if we had time (which we didn’t). Our main issue was arriving at the reception late to begin with, because of the issue with the trolleys (which I will get into more later). What you’re suggesting is to either have a gap (not possible in our situation) or have a longer reception (by adding strawberries and champagne, you’re basically just making the cocktail hour longer), which is also not an option for many people–it’s either too expensive or just not an option. :-/ I honestly have no idea how long this took, but we definitely were not taking photos for an hour. It’s just that we were late to the reception venue, combined with having to have all of our pictures taken at one time.

@Stef–I think these things are more important to the families than to people of our generation. Maybe they’ll be more important when we’re older? I also think it’s a way of guaranteeing that there is a photo of each person in your family/bridal party, rather than risking that they might get missed.

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julieulie says:

If you didn’t see each other before the ceremony, when did you sign the Ketubah??

7.
Eric says:

Interesting post -

Just today I received a shot list from a bride - it is interesting to hear your perspective on the events ‘after the fact’.

I wrote more feelings about this on my blog - here’s the trackback:
http://www.erichegwer.com/#79

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katya says:

That sucks that it didn’t work out like you planned! I actually enjoyed the formal pictures but I’m a weirdo.

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Miss X says:

That kinda sucks that your “shoots” got all messed up, but great attitude in dealing with it!

Also, thank you for posting your plan (even if it didn’t work out), this is on my to do list, and although I’m sure it wouldn’t take long to figure out, it is one less thing I’ll have to think about!

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CD says:

Omg, thank you for this post. I’m sorry it didn’t for you for you, but I also can’t bear to see my groom before the ceremony and was trying to figure out the most efficient way to do formals. Very helpful!

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goodvoile says:

I’m glad you got to do it the way you wanted to (not seeing each other beforehand)! And too bad about the timing of the rest of it, but you have the right attitude — something always surprises you by going wrong, and it’s not a big deal unless you let it be.

I do wholeheartedly second what you said here: “Don’t assume that anyone actually reads anything you give them.” Even though we put out lots of information and tried to tell people when to be where, some still got it messed up. I was amazed that the day before, one of the people in my party thought they weren’t going to be fed all evening (even though the wedding invitation said “Dinner reception and dancing . . . “, and my SIL missed all the formal shots because she was still getting ready and thought that was just for the wedding party (even though the schedule said “formals with family members and wedding party at …”). Wow! Tell people over and over, or they won’t get it!

Looking forward to more recap, Mrs. CP! :)

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Miss Avocado says:

I have already warned our wedding parties that intense schedules will be made and distributed, with accompanying warning that states that those who are not present will not be in the photo. Period. Snooze you lose.

I’m very opinionated and very vocal however, so this is probably the type of thing that people expect from me :)

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Marnee says:

I’m a wedding photographer, and am so sorry to hear this. Wedding formals should be quick and painless… a good photographer will spend 30 minutes tops on these pictures and will insist on not doing things TWICE like you had outlined. Most of my brides do see each other before and say that is the BEST part of the whole day. It is the quiet moment to just themselves without everyone else around that they remember. They get a moment to talk, exchange cards, gifts, or just tell each other how beautiful/handsome they look. (You don’t get this opportunity when you first see each other walking down the aisle.) As a photographer, we get all the “formals” done before guests arrive so as soon as the ceremony is over, we can capture the true moments - the hugs and congrats and tears from family and friends. When you don’t see each other, you are quickly whisked away by your photographer to hurry up and get the formals done. You don’t get to spend those first moments as husband and wife enjoying the love and congrats from your family and friends, and miss out on some of the best images of the day. We love it when couples do go to their cocktail hour. This is my favorite time to get candid shots of all your friends. This is your party… you should be there! I can’t think of a single other party or event that would go on without the host present! Your friends and family came there to spend time with you… NOT to wait around for your to take pictures. The tradition of not seeing each other before the ceremony works well with the tradition of having a church wedding in the morning and the reception in the evening… but when you have the ceremony and reception all in the same place/location, not only are you not being TRADITIONAL (no church), but it is being somewhat rude to guests to make them wait for you to arrive. I tell my couples that they still are waiting for the wedding day… we still make a very special, unique and great moment… and we capture the first expressions.

For all the brides to be… please don’t dismiss this idea. It is so worth AMAZING pictures, no stress photography, and happy guests! And honestly, I have NEVER had a single couple regret it. In fact most say that first meeting was by far their favorite time of the whole day.

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wintersprincess says:

The photographer at my sister’s wedding was AMAZING…he snapped out those “before-ceremony” formal shots so quick! It didn’t feel rushed though, he made it so fun, and the pictures all came out GREAT! I think it took only 20 minutes, and that was with 7 bm’s and 7 groomsmen. I was seriously impressed. :)

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Sarah says:

I was the photographer for a quickly-planned family wedding earlier this month, and some of my favorite pictures are between the formals, where the bride reacts to her mother yelling “now one with cousin so-and-so!” “Now one with just the people from out of town!” The whole process took maybe 15 minutes, probably less, it just felt endless.

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suzanno says:

I agree with practically everybody. Our photographer was great - our pictures were relatively fast and painless - they still took too long. I hope to hell I will be happy to have them someday, but honestly at the time I just wanted to hang with my guests. And our biggest regret about the whole day is how little time we had with our guests, so right now (one month after the wedding) I’m still convinced I would trade the photos to have that time back in a heartbeat. I honestly don’t care about the *family group* photos. I suppose they are important to my mom, but they’re going in an album - not on the wall - in my house. I would have been happier to have more candids and more time.

And - no matter how good your photographer is - things happen. My sister ate a bad tomato or something the day before, and had to keep running to the ladies’ room. My one-year-old niece had refused to take a nap, and so my BIL was hugely late to the ceremony - as he was trying to let her get all the sleep she could, and then got flustered and lost. So our photo schedule was hopelessly messed up from the get-go (which our photographer handled marvelously, but which was fairly stressful for me). Because - once again - I didn’t want to be standing on the dance floor with all and sundry smiling smiling smiling for the camera - I wanted to be hugging and chatting with our 120 guests!!! Oh well.

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susan says:

Your list of groups looks way to long. Your photographer should have worked with you more to fit things in. My photographer had us limit our group list. He warned us that the family, guests, and the bride and groom get tired and bored when they take to long. we did the essential family shots and that was it.

We went partly into our cocktail hour for the shots of the two of us, which was fine with me and I expected that. We saw eachother before the ceremony and it was wonderful. It actually relieved a lot of pre ceremony stress, and we have wonderful pictures of us before and after the ceremony.


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Mrs. Cream Puff Mrs. Cream Puff, San Francisco Bay Area Age and Occupation: 25, Illustrator Fiance's Age and Occupation: 31, Merchandise Planner Engagement Date: May 27, 2007 Wedding Date: August, 2008 Blogging Since: February 7, 2008 Venue: Ceremony at Crissy Field and Reception at the Green Room About Me: I never dreamed about my wedding as a little girl because I was too busy playing in the mud or pretending to be Martha Stewart–but now that it's here, I'm having a fabulous time DIYing everything in sight! We’re planning a very fun multicultural wedding (I'm Jewish and Mr. Cream Puff is Chinese), filled with as many personal details as I can muster.