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Choosing Judaism - Part II

November 14th, 2008 @ 4:12 pm by Mrs. Hot Cocoa

Earlier, I wrote about my decision to convert to Judaism. Today, I thought I’d share a bit about what the process entails, for those of you who are interested in conversion*, who are intellectually curious, or who are just eager to relive those hilarious episodes of “Sex in the City” in which Charlotte goes through the conversion process. This is another loooong post. Sorry!

*A quick caveat: Modern Judaism is divided into a few movements (Orthodox, Conservative, Reconstructionist, Reform, etc.), which differ from one another in their level of observance, their liturgy, their approach to textual interpretation, etc. My conversion is through the Conservative movement, so I can’t really speak to what the conversion process is like in the other movements.

[Image source.]

So I guess I should begin where Charlotte begins! Do you remember the episode where Charlotte knocks on the rabbi’s door and says (in that dear, sweet Charlotte way): “Hello, my name is Charlotte York, and I’m interested in joining the Jewish faith”? And then the rabbi says (in that dear, sweet old rabbi way): “Sorry, we’re not interested” and slams the door in her face?

It’s kind of true!

Okay, not literally — no rabbi actually turned me away at the door or made me approach him three times. But rabbis traditionally do insist that those interested in conversion go through a substantial period of reflection and study before making the decision to convert. My understanding is this is not because the Jewish faith is unwelcoming. Instead, because the Jewish people have at various times been discriminated against, persecuted, or coerced into converting to other religions, rabbis want to make sure that those who seek to join the faith are doing so with free will, intention, and knowledge of the benefits and hardships that come with being Jewish. This is the reason why rabbis usually refer to people like me who convert to Judaism as “Jews by choice,” which emphasizes personal agency and considered decision making, rather than the noun”convert,” which always seems to me like the result of some terrible brainwashing experiment.

Nowadays, rather than turning an interested party away three times, many rabbis require that you attend a course of study on Judaism, make a concerted effort to begin living according to Jewish laws (i.e., observing the sabbath, going to services, keeping Kosher), and make time for one-on-one conversations or intensive study with the rabbi who is sponsoring your conversion. Do all this for a certain period of time (there’s no magic number), and at some point, your sponsoring rabbi will deem you ready to take the plunge (somewhat literally, as you’ll see).

I started the conversion process this spring, just by chatting with rabbis in the area. They referred me to the Jewish Discovery Institute, which is an organization that provides outreach to interfaith couples and runs a Jewish learning class geared toward those interested in conversion. Through the JDI, I take a 2.5-hour course once a week, which is basically a primer on Jewish life. The course covers everything from the very technical — what is and isn’t kosher — to the more abstract — why observe shabbat — to the waaay more abstract — Jewish attitudes toward God, prayer, death, etc. Oh, we also learn a little bit of Hebrew (since conservative services are conducted in Hebrew). There is nothing funnier or more pathetic than a bunch of us old people sounding out words like four year olds. Hooked on phonics, geriatric style.

Mr. HC is in med school in CT, while I live in MA most of the week, so he doesn’t come to class with me. But most people who are converting for marriage attend the class with their partners. It’s a nice diverse group. There are a few thirty-something professional couples like Mr. HC and me, some people who are just out of college, as well as some older folks. There are opposite-sex couples and same-sex couples. There are people who are converting because their partners are Jewish, and others who came to Judaism for very different reasons. One woman, for example, is converting because her godchildren are Jewish, and she wanted to be able to be a part of their Jewish upbringing.

In addition to the course, I try to go to services once a week, usually on Friday evenings. I found an awesome, hippie dippie shabbat service that I really enjoy — suffice to say, there are bongo drums. (Mr. HC, who at one time was quite observant, but is now pretty much a “high holiday Jew” (meaning he only goes to services on Yom Kippur and Rosh Hashanah), is amused by my new SuperJew status and my dragging him to services and insisting on shabbat dinner.) I also really enjoy the study of Jewish texts, so as a bonus, I take an Intro to Judaism class run my sponsoring rabbi, who like me is totally geek for Jew lit.

You can do all of this Jewish learning without committing to conversion, as my rabbi reminds me all the time. In fact, even if I weren’t converting, I think I would really enjoy the whole preparatory experience. The actual conversion, at least for women*, involves two things beyond the whole program of study and reflection.

* Male converts have — um, how do I say this gently? — a little extra something something they have to go through. (But those who are already circumcised only need to go through a ritual circumcision, which is just the letting of a single drop of blood.) Ouchy.

First, my sponsoring rabbi will bring me before the beit din, which is a rabbinical court. I keep picturing the beit din as a tribunal of old dudes in black robes and yarmulkes, but I think most of the rabbis around here are actually quite young and often female. It’s the beit din’s job to figure out whether I’m ready for conversion. I’m told that this isn’t an interrogation, but more of a conversation about how it is that I came to Judaism, whether I’m interested in conversion for the right reasons, and whether I’m joining the faith willingly and with due consideration of what it means to be joining a minority religion and culture.

Assuming that the beit din approves, I then go to the mikveh. The mikveh is a ceremonial immersion in a pool of “living water” (usually a bit of rain water mixed in with heated and treated tap water). The immersion ritual is the most profound part of the experience and signifies one’s rebirth as a Jew. I was initially a little anxious about the experience — I’m not so into ritual . . . or water — but then I did a bit of research into the mikveh I’ll be going to and am now really excited. I mean, look at this place — isn’t it beautiful?

[Photo of the gorgeous mikveh at Mayyim Hayyim.]

If anyone is interested, I’ll post again on this topic once I actually finish the conversion process. But for now I’ll just say that this process has been the highlight of my “wedding planning journey” thus far. It’s intellectually exciting to learn more about Judaism and to have an occasion for pondering the BIG, metaphysical questions. Also, it feels, for lack of a better word, anchoring to be doing something that is related to the wedding but much more permanent and significant than picking out the perfect shade of purple for our save the dates. And it’s wonderful to be able to bond with Mr. HC over a culture that will soon be ours rather than his. And let me also say that it’s awesome to find certain areas in which I’ve now done enough studying to out-Jew Mr. HC. Ah yes, my dear, the student has become the teacher. ;-P

For those of you who have converted to a different religion for your partner, how was your experience?

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18 Responses to “Choosing Judaism - Part II”

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ellekay

Huh? Can full grown men get their hmm hmm snipped in church? Is that safe? Or do you have to have a surgery to have that done and then go to church?

I realize that obviously this is not focus of your post, but I’m just so surprised! I’ve heard of all sort of traditions for converts in different faiths, but that sure is a new one!

 
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Becky

wow, this was a really interesting post, thanks for sharing your journey. (my main knowledge in this area thus far was totally limited to Charlotte in SATC, lol).

 
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frenchbulldog (message)  6,063 posts, Bee Keeper

I would definitely be interested in hearing about your conversion when your finished :)

 
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frenchbulldog (message)  6,063 posts, Bee Keeper

@ellekay: LOL @ their hmm hmm snipped!

 
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Mrs. Tulip (message)  615 posts, Busy bee

That’s so interesting, Miss HC, thanks for sharing your experience! My mind boggles at the bongo drums — is it still a “conservative” group, with Hebrew and everything?

I lived in Israel for a couple of years, but my main knowledge of Judaism comes from Chaim Potok books…. Somehow, I don’t think the men in those books who were always going to the baths had anywhere as beautiful as the one in your photo!

 
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Erin

I appreciate your posts about conversion, and would love updates as you progress.

One of the reasons that I’ve been enjoying them is that my best friend is in a serious relationship with a Jewish man. Her experience hasn’t always been positive, but she’s been very open to learning about his faith and culture. They took an interfaith couples class (perhaps through JDI), which was really good for both of them. There was no pressure in the class for her to convert, and I would recommend it to another Jew/gentile couple. She truly felt like she understood for the first time what it meant TO HIM to be Jewish. (Without a faith background of her own, she struggled with how he could identify with a faith without going to regular services). She’s even been doing Shabbat with him and hung a mezuzah at their apt (and he sings Christmas carols ;) ) No ring in sight, but I have my fingers crossed. They are soooo right for each other.

 
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Miss Taffy (message)  2,598 posts, Sugar bee

Thanks for this post, it is definitely more informative than sex in the city! :) (although I loved those episodes!) Please keep us updated after you have finished the conversion process! :)

 
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I really admire people who convert to their partner’s religion. It shows true dedication to the marriage!

 
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julieulie (message)  266 posts, Helper bee

I have a friend who converted (wife of one of my husband’s closest friends from childhood) who was so moved by her conversion process that they got RE-married after her official conversion and her dip in the mikveh so they could officially meet under the chuppah. I thought that was so moving. So, on their one year anniversary, they had a huge wedding to reafffirm their wedding in the Jewish faith. Honestly, I think that religion can wind up meaning even more if it is something that you CHOOSE when you are older, rather than something that you just have forced on you when you are a child. Not that it isn’t still meaningful (as deemed by the fact that my in-law family thinks that I choose religion over them), but the fact that you get to pick what you believe in… I think it just holds more value, as opposed to your parents telling you what traditions you should have.

 
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Miss Hot Cocoa (message)  1,715 posts, Bumble bee

@ellekay: Ouchy — that was a painful image! The reform and reconstructionist movements generally don’t require male converts to be circumcised. For adult men converting as part of the orthodox or conservative movements, they get the procedure done in a hospital by a urologist or surgeon. And if they are already circumcised, then a mohel (an individual trained to perform ritual circumcisions) can simply draw a drop of blood. Anyway, all I can say is that I am lucky to be a lady!!

@Mrs. Tulip: What were you doing in Israel? I really would like to visit one day. As for the bongo drums, yeah, a lot of conservative synagogues wouldn’t allow instruments to be played on shabbat. But the hippie dippie ones do. ;-) All the songs and prayers are still in Hebrew, though. I like it a lot because the music and singing actually making easier for me to be spiritual. It’s fun.

@Erin: Your friend’s experience of class sounds pretty consonant with mine. It’s a really chill environment. You are such a dear friend to be so supportive of their relationship!

 
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Miss Hot Cocoa (message)  1,715 posts, Bumble bee

@julieulie: That’s a lovely story. Actually, one of the couples in my class are doing the same thing. They got married when MA legalized same-sex marriage a few years ago, but they are going to have a second ceremony so that they can get married under a chuppah and have a ketubah and their rabbi officiate.

 
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chelseamorning (message)  1,482 posts, Bumble bee

This is a wonderful post. I also converted to a new religion (Catholicism) prior to marriage (though not expressly for marriage, my process was hastened somewhat by wanting to marry in the church), and I particularly relate to the feeling of “anchoring” to something bigger than yourself.
When you convert to Catholicism you also go through a nine-month long class that covers everything from the nitty gritty to the highly abstract. At the end of the class you don’t have to convert of course, if you aren’t ready, and there are interviews with the priests to ensure you’re making the right choice. All in all I found it to be a very profound and positive experience. I am glad you are finding your journey into Judaism the same.

 
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You are in the place that I hope to be in the next few years. My boyfriend of 6 years is Jewish and I want to convert before we get married. I have always been attracted to Judaism….I actually had a few Jewish girlfriends as a kid who “predicted” that one day I would marry a Jew and become one. I am so reassured by your wonderful experience with the conversion process and it sounds like you are coming from a very similar place to me. I wish you the best of luck with your conversion, your wedding and your marraige!

 
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Miss Powder Puff (message)  834 posts, Busy bee

This is so interesting! I’ve always been fascinated by the Jewish faith- all the symbolism and rituals make it such a beautiful religion. Please keep us updated!

 
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Fran

As a Jew, I say Mazel Tov on your journey! I’m so glad that you are writing about it.

Ellekay - I don’t think the circumcision happens in Shul, when babies are circumcised it happens at home - I would imagine the same is true for men who are converting

 
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Picasso30

I had to complete three essays before my beit din. Fun, huh? But my beit din was really fun, and just a discussion of what I had written, and the court giving me advice about my future. Your Mikvah is BEAUTIFUL! You are so lucky! Mine looked like an out of commission hot tub at the Y. ick!

 
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Miss Hot Cocoa (message)  1,715 posts, Bumble bee

@chelseamorning: I’m glad to hear that you also had a very positive conversion experience. I’d be interested to hear what the actual conversion process is like in Catholicism. Is there a special ceremony in addition to the class?

@Nurse2B: LOL. You sound a lot like me! My secular Jewish friends would often comment on how much more Jewish I was than they were.

@Fran: Thanks!! From what I understand, the ritual circumcision (pricking) can happen in a shul (or wherever the beit din is), but an actual circumcision takes place in a clinic or hospital.

@Picasso30: We often have essay assignments in our Judaism course, so I feel your pain. ;-)

 
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Ms. HC Thank you so much for this post! My step mother is Jewish and so Is my little sister and brother (technically half sister and brother), they are members of a reform temple and just this summer I got to do a reading as a part of my little sisters Bat Mitzvah. I have always been interested in Judaism and really enjoyed the Bat Mitzvah Service. Thanks again for sharing your story and I would really love to hear more about your experience.

 


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