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The Open Bar Conundrum

December 6th, 2008 @ 3:16 pm by Miss Snapdragon

This past week, Miss Powder Puff and I had the pleasure of meeting a number of you through the wonders of BeeTV! One topic that came up was the eternal bridal issue of the open bar. (Dun, dun, dunnnn.)

Alcohol in general can be a touchy subject for many brides throughout the wedding process. Some brides have families that are vehemently against alcohol period, while others may demand it. Of all the decisions that are often harshly criticized by those around us, alcohol can sometimes be the most closely scrutinized. For brides who can afford to offer alcohol at their wedding, the decision can be fraught with stress, especially if you have one or more guests that you know have an alcohol problem. For some weddings, the vast majority of guests do not drink alcohol at all for reasons of faith or culture, which definitely avoids the problems that offering alcohol can cause. In my case, many of our guests DO drink, and I definitely want to have one, MAYBE two glasses of champagne, tops. As Miss Powder Puff wisely pointed out - nobody wants to see a drunky bride. No bueno. (although you are free to disagree, of course!!)

Some brides would like to offer a selection of “drinks” at their reception, but are on the tightest of budgets, and the idea of a cash bar strikes their fancy. Often these brides get the monster smackdown from other brides-in-planning. (Do NOT bring up the cash bar on The Knot Message Boards - especially the Planning & Etiquette board - if you want to escape with your life.) For me - and this is just my opinion - I have no problem with a cash bar. I understand that many brides are on a budget, especially in a difficult economy. In no way do I see a cash bar as a slight. I see it as… the bride and groom are on a budget, and they’d rather offer a way to have a beer or a glass of wine, rather than nothing at all. The whole point of a wedding is to celebrate the creation of a new family, and that should be my focus, not an opportunity to criticize their party-throwing skills. That is just my take though!

In the end, you are the only one who knows your guest list the best. You know whether your crowd would appreciate a glass of wine or a cocktail at your celebration, or whether they would prefer a “dry” reception. It’s easy to get caught up in other people’s judgments of how you should plan your wedding, but take other’s opinions with a grain of salt. Someone who opines from a wedding article in a magazine or on a wedding message board is not your friend, and they see your wedding from a purely technical point of view. Your wedding guests (hopefully) love you and attend your wedding with that viewpoint. They are not going to go crazy because you are offering a cash bar or pull out their Emily Post reference guide. Remember that when you are reading the umpteenth article or message board post on the evils of the cash bar.

On the flip side, an open bar can provide its own set of problems, most obviously intake management. For me, Mr. Dragon and I are offering an open bar - with safeguards in place (hopefully some of you will find these tips helpful!)

  • The super-vast majority of our guests are responsible drinkers (we are 30, most people “settle down” on the drinking by that age.) However, when we go in for our final venue meeting, we are going to talk to our onsite coordinator about keeping people from getting sloppy - just in case. We plan to let her know that we FULLY support our bartender in cutting people off who are drinking too much. We are also going to tell her that displaying the standard sign that reads “We reserve the right to deny service” is absolutely ok by us, and we will back up the bartender if he elects to act on that policy.
  • We are setting up a soda station separate from the bar, so that my 12-year-old brother isn’t going to the bar to get a Coke!!!
  • Although we selected our hotel venue in an effort to make our out-of-town guests more comfy, an added bonus is that our guests that intend to drink more than a glass or two can get a hotel room. No driving required! (Thankfully, Chicago is super cab-friendly, too.)
  • Another tip I would offer  - and of course you have to play this strategy close to the vest to avoid hurt feelings - is to notify your bartender if “Uncle Sal” is an irresponsible drinker. Then your bartender can especially monitor the problem child’s intake to avoid any embarassing incidents. Although you may feel funny pointing one particular guest out - it’s better than the alternative; and there is no need for that guest to know he was especially brought to the bartender’s attention.

So this was a long blog post - but alcohol at weddings is a touchy subject, with many permutations. Cash bar, wine/beer bar, open bar, etc. etc. My take is… do what works for you and your crowd; be responsible; and don’t let other people make you crazy about it. Anyone have any other helpful tips for navigating this rocky road??

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Sparkles (message)  706 posts, Busy bee

My venue relies on their approved ‘caterer list’ for certain things. a) the caterers on the list are not permitted to serve hard liquor. If it is requested to be served by the hosting group, the hosting group must choose a caterer that has it’s own liquor license which the venue does not provide (outside of serving wine). b) The caterer we chose, has told us they keep track of how much our guests drink and tend to politely cap serving drinks to guests who may appear to be ‘out-of-hand’. c) we are getting married where there isn’t easy access to public transportation. So my fi & I were going to have carpooling as an option among guests. We were going to request people show up at our hotel, and depart together via loaner cars or in the bridal limo/bus. (our venue is a little difficult to get to anyways, so we thought a little caravan might help prevent people getting lost)
To be honest though, we are only planning on serving wine and Spanish champagne. No hard liquor. (*it is pricey!*)

 
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Miss Powder Puff (message)  881 posts, Busy bee

Good tips Snappy! I may mention the “right to refuse” to our caterer, since some of Mr. Powder Puff friends can tend to get a little crazy. ;)

 
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Julie

Almost all of our guests stayed overnight in our hotel, which made it a lot easier to not have to worry if our guests took full advantage of the open bar. We only had one person who tends to drink too much and then drive (which really sickens me — before I met my husband, I had dated a guy for 4 years who was killed by a drunk driver) and he was one of the few who wasn’t staying over, because he refused to leave his dog at home alone. So, I had no problem going straight to the people who can control him — his daughters (all in their 40s). One of them agreed to be his designated driver and, at the end of the night, took his keys (by this point, he was having such a great time that he gave them up with only minimal resistance) and drove her parents home, and then the next morning drove them back to the hotel so they could come to our morning-after brunch and get his car.

 
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D

While I do agree that liquor is pricey, and I do not look down on brides who choose to have a cash bar at their reception, I will be having an open bar.

Quite honestly, too many people in my family would be upset if we didn’t have an open bar and *they* would see it as tacky. My relatives see weddings as a time to party, drink a little, and have a good time, as well as spend time with their loved ones, and they would feel slighted if there were no open bar. To be quite honest (and to also show how sheltered I’ve been,) until my first out-of-state wedding two months ago, I had no idea that an open bar wasn’t customary for everyone. :D In my area (NJ & NY) it’s pretty customary to have an open bar.

 
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Miss Snapdragon (message)  717 posts, Busy bee

@D: Oh yeah, I totally get where you are coming from, and my situation is lucky enough that we are able to have an open bar. I just get sad when I see cash bar brides getting bashed - often the cash bar is out of budget concerns, rather than scrooge-iness! And as someone who likes to have a couple drinks as a wedding guest, I would much prefer the option to buy my own $5 drink, rather than the alternative of nothing at all.

 
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kathy

In Ireland and the UK, it is standard to have a cash bar - my Irish sister-in-law was shocked at the idea of open bar, and said that Irish weddings are such booze-fests, no one would ever have an open bar b/c it would cost a fortune! Interesting!

 
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SmallTownBride

We will be having a limited open bar. We will have plenty of beer (I’m a Texas Girl, we like our Beer), several wines, and then we plan on having a very limited selection of hard liquor and mixers with a friend bartending (our venue has a liquor license and no limits on caterers, etc)… I’m sure plenty of guests will imbibe beyond their limits, but its not really something I think will be a problem.

 
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anon

@Miss Snapdragon: “And as someone who likes to have a couple drinks as a wedding guest, I would much prefer the option to buy my own $5 drink, rather than the alternative of nothing at all.”

Right, but if you’re in an area where open bars are customary and cash-bars not common….you might not even bring money, so you’d still end up not being able to buy a drink and just watching those around you purchase drinks.
Personally, as a guest I’d rather a bride have beer & wine only, or no-alcohol than a cash bar if they’re trying to save money because I’d feel very awkward to show up at a wedding without cash since cash-bars are not something I’m used to, and realize that I should have and feel that it was expected that I would have brought cash.

 
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kelly

I was just actually thinking the same thing as anon. I don’t bring very much to weddings, maybe just my ID and a debit/credit card, so I wouldn’t know to bring cash. I think that’s just because open bars happen to be pretty common in my family and in my area. I think they are a great option for some, but I’d definitely go the beer/wine only route first before making it a cash bar. But that’s just me. Therein lies the beauty of it all- we each get our own weddings to do what we like (or, what out M’s IL like!)

How do you go about letting your guests know that it is an open bar? Does that go on the invite?

 
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jennifer

I feel that you plan your wedding around your budget. You would never ask your guest to pay for a sit dow meal because your budget didn’t allow, you would just plan an afternoon wedding or cocktail party. Your guests are exactly that, your guests, and should never be asked to pay there way.

 
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jennifer

their way

 
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Miss Snapdragon (message)  717 posts, Busy bee

@anon: @kelly: I have been to a cash bar wedding, and that was what changed my mind about cash bars in general (to find them acceptable.) Chicago is pro-open bars, as well. My friend simply included on the invite “Dinner and dancing to follow. Cash bar.” Easy peasy, and now everyone knows. I don’t think most brides would spring a cash bar on anyone without properly communicating (one would hope!)

 
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D

@Miss Snapdragon: I do agree with your friend — I think if you’re going to have a cash bar, you should mention it on the invite. It’s courteous and so easy…that way guests can’t be caught off guard :D

 
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Margaux

We’ve traveled to weddings where there was a cash bar…and no ATM on-site. A cab ride, exorbitant ATM fees, and 30 minutes later, we were able finally quench our thirst. At our venue (with a consumption bar), there’s not much of a price difference between open bar vs beer/wine only…that being said, my fiance and I are having people (about 90% of the guest list) travel from across the country (and a few other countries) to come to our wedding, so I feel like it would be shoddy to have them plan their vacations and budgets around our big day…only to have them pay for their own drinks. We’re working with a modest budget but a smaller guest list of 150 people.

 
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ES123 (message)  1,020 posts, Bumble bee

Those drinks look delicious…good thing you posted this on a Friday night! Can you tell I’m having an open bar? :)

 
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Linzerella

Ugh … the open bar. I got married two months ago and no other issue was as ugly or as divisive to deal with. I live in an area where “toonie” bars are common, but ot married in an area of Canada where open bars are common. It was such a sh*t show deciding what to do.

In the end, because we only had 65 guests, we opted for an open bar and decided to swallow the cost. It came in slightly higher than I anticipated… althgough I’m still annoyed many of our friends double fisted at the wedding because they knew the drinks were free, or as soon as they got a drink would go back in line. Don’t people realize who was footing the bill?! Ugh. Yuck!

 
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Miss Taffy (message)  3,104 posts, Sugar bee

We are planning on an open bar, but are extremely worried because our venue charges per drink (!!!) instead of a flat per person rate. We won’t have any idea how much our bill is until the end of the wedding!!! It has been really stressful for me, because I don’t have a hard number to work with in our budget. Also, I worry about people losing their drinks and just ordering more because they think it’s all inclusive. I am surprised that I haven’t had nightmares about it!!!!
We priced out doing just beer & wine, but it works out to the same per drink price as liquor. It’s a nightmare, we could end up paying 12,000 for drinks! We have no idea what to expect.

 
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Angela

We had a cash bar. The area I’m from it’s very common to have cash bars. We had a teeny budget and our wedding was planned pretty quickly. Any wedding I’ve been to has been a cash bar as well. It would be nice if we could’ve afforded to have an open bar but it just wasn’t an option. We had a super casual wedding and I honestly didn’t see it as much different than a BYOB get together. If people had a problem with it I don’t really care. No one seemed to have a problem. But it’s our wedding, yes we want to celebrate with them but I didn’t feel we needed to go into debt to throw a huge “party”

 
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laura

At my sister’s wedding we did do an open bar. Which where we are, it is common to have an open bar or no alcohol at all. Not so much with the cash bar. I am of the opinion it is tacky. You would never ask a guest to please pay for their dinner if you couldn’t afford it. Most would just serve appetizers instead of full dinner.

But I digress from my point. At the open bar, there were a few problems. 1) We planned for 300 people and yet the caterer still ran out of liquor which meant that a family friend had to do a liquor run in the middle of the wedding reception. But it was ok everyone was having a great time and no one even noticed that. 2) A few did get sloppy drunk. There were a few that jumped in the pool fully dressed and the pool did have floating candles in it. And there were a few that had to get rides home.

But overall it was exactly what my sister and family wanted. It was a great party. The pictures were hysterical, everyone had a great time, and the reception started at 8, the bride and groom left at midnight, and people were still partying it up at 1:30.

 
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kelly

Linzerella, that sounds awful! Like a college party… I’d be mortified, as it sounds you are!

My venue charges a flat fee per person, and we have some control over what is available, so that helps. My dad already told the venue they’d likely be losing money on our crew… I come from a very large, very Irish family….eek! They’ll all behave though. I am glad to know about the bartender warnings, Ms. Snapdragon– I def. have one aunt who I’d be worried about…

 
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Miss Snapdragon, Chicago/Dallas Age and Occupation: 32,Associate Producer Fiance's Age and Occupation: 33, Lighting Designer Blogging Since: November 14, 2008 Engagement Date: January 1, 2011 Wedding Date: March 2012 Venue: Marie Gabrielle About Me: Voracious reader of short stories, Russian literature, National Geographic and Cosmo. I'm a GENIUS at spicing up Weight Watchers recipes and a pathological cheater at board games. I run a slow marathon, but my feet are learning to move faster. Mornings aren't my thing, but I can night owl with the best of them. Don't tempt me with your Cherry Cokes---I'm trying to quit. Tomorrow. Or never.

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