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Mrs. Cheese, Knoxville Age and Occupation: 29, Engineering Manager Fiance's Age and Occupation: 27, CAD Designer Engagement Date: July 31, 2008 Wedding Date: May, 2009 Blogging Since: October 16, 2008 Venue: Our home and the two acres it sits on About Me: I’m an emotional girl who loves sentimental things, parenthetical asides, and trying to do things herself. I can cook, sew, am a whiz at planning, terrible at delegating, and totally in love with my fiancé (who will be my second husband but first love of the rest of my life). For our home/ garden/ DIY wedding, we’ll be moonlighting as interior designers, home improvers, and gardeners with the help of our fabulous friends and neighbors. We can’t wait to be married, and are learning how fun getting married can be.
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“Don’t you ever think about anything else?” he asked in all honesty and naivete, not knowing the kind of wrath that question could invoke.

We were laying in bed and I’d just asked if he’d thought about what the groomsmen should wear, because the guy on the TV commercial looked pretty good in dark slacks with a white shirt and tie.

I just stared at him, not sure how to respond, but certain that I felt offended, upset, annoyed, and maybe, just maybe, like he had a point. I don’t think about much else these days, yet I feel like I am justified in obsessing a little. We’re four months away from our wedding at our home and I’m only now doing any real planning—and a flurry of it, I’ll admit.

“Honey, we’re only four months away from our wedding, and I’m only now doing any real planning,” I explained. “Many weddings take much longer than that to plan.” He thought that four months seemed like plenty of time, and then he said it, his second dangerous phrase of the night:

“I’m sure it’ll all come together.”

Um, yea.

I’m sure you do think it’ll all come together, since you’re not doing any of it unless I spoon feed the topics to you, complete with well-researched images and well thought out considerations. I’m sure you do just assume that weddings happen, since you are male and men tend to think ridiculous things like that. I’m sure you do believe that it’ll be fine, just like you thought that getting married at our home would be simple (I agreed because while it’s not simple, it is romantic).

So I let loose. Without taking the time or energy to adjust my phrasing or delivery to limit the load of stress I was about to throw at him, I blurted out every single thing that had to be decided, from how many tables and what size and where they’ll go, to where people will park and what they’ll wear and how they’ll know to be here. Y’all know the drill, but evidently he was clueless, no matter how many times I’ve explained that weddings require a thousand little details, all of which are absolutely necessary. Meaning, even if you cut out every DIY, every sweet touch, every bit of personalization, you still have to decide what time and when people should get there and what they’ll do and where they’ll sit. Decide to host the thing yourselves at your home, and whoo, boy, things get crazy at an exponential rate. Where will we stash the litter boxes? Will the kitchen ever be in photos (because if it will be… um, it won’t be, we’ll have to put screens in the doorways)? OMG WE NEED TO GET THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEM UPDATED ASAP.

I thought I’d be saved from much of this because in the end, I just want to marry my man. I thought I could avoid choosing color schemes or counting napkins or dealing with contracts by making specific decisions: all white, disposable, no vendors. That was before I found out that whites don’t match (so then they look dingy), people want you to guide them in how to dress (or else they feel a bit lost) and you cannot avoiding working with at least a few vendors (hello, tent). Not caring about the color scheme doesn’t absolve you from having to, in the end, choose something. Anything, in fact, but something.

And saying, “I want this” and plopping down an inspiration picture doesn’t work nearly as well as I’d hoped, either. “Exactly this, or like this?” Of course, they don’t have exactly that, and anyway, neither do I. I could hire a wedding planner, but my issue isn’t with managing the tasks (I take professional pride in my ability to make and manage lists of details and tasks that all rely on each other, thankyouverymuch), it’s with deciding, nee, caring enough to decide what I want. Everything I see would work, ya know? And any of it would be beautiful.

And my guy? Bless that Y chromosome, he’s oblivious. As long as it’s not too girly, he’s fine with it, and if it gets him out of having to be involved, he’ll even take the girly. So we have two people who want something nice and fun and appropriate without having any idea what that means to them. And one of them isn’t planning to do any planning, because he can’t fathom that it’s even needed.

I’m going to have to get over my unwillingness to drag the mister into this, have a nice, calm, “HERE’S HOW LIFE WORKS, MISTER” discussion (there will be wine), and then ignore the eye-rolling that will commence thereafter. Yes, we need to get our registry together, and yes, you need to be involved. Yes, you have to look at the invitations if for no other reason than that I don’t need to deal with the fact that you think “with regrets” is smart ass-y after they’ve been printed. Yes, you need to decided what the groomsmen will be wearing right now so that I can email them myself, because I know you don’t believe that it needs to be done at all, much less soon, and I don’t ever want to have to talk about it again. If we’re in this whole life thing together, it’s time to be in this whole ball-of-wedding-stress world together, too. He’s escaped it for long enough.

Whew. That was a long rant. Your turn.

How have you dealt with what I’ll call “The Y Chromosome Syndrome” - the one that leads one human being to say to another, “Relax. You’re worrying too much. It’ll all work out somehow”?

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Mrs. Corn (message)  1,128 posts, Bumble bee

Ha ha…Mr Corn made me flip out when he questioned why we needed ceremony muscians. Mind you, our wedding was outside…so without a musician, I would have walked down the aisle to…uh…birds chirping? And he would be the FIRST PERSON to say how weird a wedding with the bride walking down the aisle to silence was…yet he thought it would just miraculously ‘come together’.

At the end of all the planning, with just a few days to go, he took me aside and thanked me for all the work I did saying, ‘I guess I just didn’t realize how much went into it…now I get it.’ That was worth it. :)

 
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lreighard1 (message)  642 posts, Busy bee

I’ve made my FH the wedding executive. I come to him with one, two or three choices and he has to decide. And I have to be OK with the choice he makes. It was hard at first but it’s worked out really really well. I lost the stress of having all finaly decisions resting on me and he’s involved and not mired in the details. Hooray!

 
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BexSH (message)  81 posts, Worker bee

Let it out, sister. You read my mind and frankly, it felt rather cathartic to read this!

 
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Emily

DO IT! I finally had to just lay it on my fiancee - this is what I want, when I want it, and I need your enthusiastic help! When he slips back into oblivious/doesn’t care mode I remind him that bridezilla could come out at any minute.

 
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Feebee (message)  94 posts, Worker bee

Ah! So refreshing! you’re speaking my language! We had a hellish weekend a few weeks ago- when I finally asked for some help (”um, have you had a chance to look at the list of 10 officiants I sent you 3 months ago, and then again 6 weeks ago, and then again last week?! Because you can’t just say you don’t like the sounds of the one I’ve already met with (because they were wearing vestments! they’ll wear whatever we ask them to!) Ok rant over!

Oy. It’s nice to be the one who gets to decide most things, but when we ask for help, it REALLY means we need the help!

Ok this post sounds crazy, but I am pressing “send”!

 
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Lacey

I agree- it’s tough. And it’s tougher when you don’t just know exactly what you want. I am in that same boat- everything is beautiful and yet nothing is beautiful. I’d be happy with any of the hundreds of styles (damask, floral, modern, minimalist) but I don’t know which I prefer and more importantly, it’s gotta be the RIGHT damask or the RIGHT floral, etc. and that’s the hard part. Decisions are tough, especially when your FH is cool with “whatever” and doesn’t think it’s a big deal! But part of the reason we picked them is because we love that they are manly men, right? Gotta love ‘em!

 
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Luvbug6315 (message)  425 posts, Helper bee

Sounds just like my FI. He doesn’t care about all the fluff involved with the decor and little details… at all. So when I ask for his opinion on something he says “whatever you want” or “that’s nice” and it’s not helpful so it gets me annoyed and stressed out even more. I totally hear you Cheese!

 
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miss sunbeam (message)  545 posts, Busy bee

I got the “is this all you think about” from my FI too! In our situation my FI seems oblivious to all things going on until I decide something and then he has an opinion! He also has no concept of budget or time when he finally does give his opinions then I have to bring him back to reality and it seems like we circle back to my original decision! I constantly direct him to “our” Martha Stewart budget and to do list, but I doubt he has seen it more than once. I think we have a little group therapy going on here!

 
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Miss Cheese (message)  801 posts, Busy bee

@Emily: LOL. Maybe I need to start threatening that!

@lreighard1: I do this too, and I shouldn’t, but sometimes I just have to rant about the unfairness of it all. It grates on my nerves when he says, “Get me a few options and I’ll let you know.” Um, are you THE BOSS OF ME? Yea, I know it’s petty. :)

@Coconut: It’s not crazy. I’m right there with ya.

@Aerika: Yup. The group therapy would be way more fun over drinks, but this works!

 
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budgetbeautiful (message)  1,191 posts, Bumble bee

My fiance is pretty oblivious to most things. I’ve assigned him a couple tasks, but I’m not kidding myself, I’ll do them myself. This is not really his fault. I’m a control freak. I freaked out so badly a few weeks back that we ended up pushing up our wedding date, and oddly, ever since I’ve been pretty zen and we’ve just gotten things done. One of my co-workers commented that I look much calmer since moving up the date, and she’s right.

Sometimes I do feel frustrated that he doesn’t offer up help, but I know that he doesn’t because I AM a control freak and I want things just so. He does offer input on things and tells me I’m doing a good job with the planning, so at least there’s that.

 
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Miss Cheese (message)  801 posts, Busy bee

Forgot to mention, I got this gem today: “Do we need tablecloths? I mean, a table is really just to set things down on.”

I just stared at him. “Yes, honey, we need tablecloths.”

“Okay, just checking to make sure you weren’t going overboard and stressing yourself out.”

Oy.

 
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cannotwait (message)  2,168 posts, Buzzing bee

OMG, we are leading parallel lives on this one! I am a project manager, and the very few things I’ve delegated to him he seems to think the whole things is as easy as those. Plus, I give him a TON of guidance. As in, he is in charge of the honeymoon, but I picked all 3 hotels & have suggested activities.
Also, he got sassy about me micromanaging his GM’s tuxes, so I stepped out for a month. He told them to order them in November. After a month passed, I got worried. After 2 mos passed, and our deadline passed, and only 1/4 had ordered, I threw a hissy fit. So, don’t blame yourself for being anal (if you’re like me), since he needs to take some ownership, too.
What I find really funny is, he expects me to be all in awe of the planning he did for our deck. I mean, I love having a deck, but doesn’t he realize how much smaller a task that was than the wedding. :P

 
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Miss Cheese (message)  801 posts, Busy bee

@cannotwait: I’m just laughing here. Yes, we are in parallel lives. I got, “I redid the whole bathroom without freaking out.” Really? Bc I definitely saw things being thrown, feet being stomped, cuss words flying at an amazing rate. And, um, I researched and picked out the tile… Sigh. I’ve given up on defending myself. “Yes, honey, you did. So I have full faith in your capabilities to EMAIL YOUR GROOMSMEN TO CLUE THEM IN THAT THEY’RE YOUR GROOMSMEN.”

 
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olelucky (message)  59 posts, Worker bee

We had that EXACT conversation. He is okay with wedding planning now, but I sitll need to remind him of every little things, and invitations go out next week and the only addresses I DON’T have are his friends. Oh well. It will all come together. I just bother him with the main details, not all the little ones!

 
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Julia

Wow, this seriously struck a chord with me today. I’ve been having some serious freak out that my FH is SO disinterested. I get it, guys don’t get into weddings. There aren’t many, if any, guy oriented communities online for the grooms. However, my FH is obsessed with researching everything, down to the type of toothbrush he’s going to buy next. Every product that comes into our house, I know it’s the best possible thing on the market. I thought, maybe, he might be all about researching wedding things…nope. I had a brain meltdown about it last night and just cried under a blanket. This post totally turned my mood around today. Thank you!

 
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swp02138

About halfway through the planning, my fiance, now husband, suggested we “make a list” of things that still needed to be done (I already had several lists and spreadsheets online). He then proceeds to whip out a post it note. =)

 
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Miss Cheese (message)  801 posts, Busy bee

@Julia: You’re welcome. Do you think it’s because we protect them from the stuff until we just can’t handle it? I wonder if that’s it for me. I also know that I don’t want to be called a “freaking out bride” or Bridezilla, because I hate the cliche-ness of it. The reality is, that cliche exists for a reason - this is very stressful. AND I’M A TRAINED PROJECT MANAGER. How much worse must it be for ladies that aren’t?

 
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West Coast Bride

Two things going on here–obsessing about weddings, and not getting any help….West Coast Groom is of the mind that X Chromosome Syndrome is to TALK to death about the wedding (though he has yet to grasp how this is an extension of the planning process itself). It isn’t really that he thinks it will all come together so much as he really thinks that coming together means we both show up lookin good and say I Do. There’s very little else that he cares about, and yes, that can be infuriating….especially when he has no opinion on the invitations and then after I’m done hand gluing a zillion tiny graphic hydrangeas on them he says “those things are funny.” ARGH!

 
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LaurenEB
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LaurenEB (message)  144 posts, Blushing bee

Thanks Ms. Cheese, you hit it on the nose in the last few paragraphs, I was sitting in my office laughing.

My FH is just like Julia’s. Everything, I mean everything has to be researched and we have to see it in the store 5 times and then wait a month to purchase it.

Come wedding and I say what color do you want, he says I don’t care. Then a few weeks later, I’m like, I like just doing black, to which he replys, hmmm, I don’t know, I’d have to see it. He wants nothing to do with making the decisions until I have my mind set on something and then he wants to see pictures of it, he can’t visualize it or look it up himself either, I have to do a mock-up or send picture. He can research 50 receivers for the surround sound but not google for pictures of a black and white wedding. Sigh . . .

 
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Suzanno

What we did, which was hugely helpful, was to have Wedding Planning Meetings. You know, like a staff meeting or a schedule meeting at work. We started out with a meeting every three weeks, and worked up to one every other week, and then every week. Near the end, we had a punchlist that we statused each evening. Hey, just like you do for a construction project! This was just great with DH, and help him on board with what was happening, what needed to be decided or ordered, and when, in a format that was familiar to both of us.

You see, what really frustrated him - and I can see the same thing in your post - was that it was All-Wedding-Planning-All-The-Time. It wasn’t that he wasn’t interested - he just didn’t want to talk about it every day. If we went to lunch on a Saturday (at the country club, which was our venue) and spread out samples of fonts and colors and menus and labels and candles all over the table and spent the next three hours looking at each thing in turn and making a decision, that was fine with him, because he set aside the time to do it, got it in his head that this was the task, and saw a definate end to the work to be done.

I sort of got my revenge when he started planning the honeymoon though. That’s when he was surfing restaurant reviews and condo photos every day at lunch, and having to show them all to me every evening. I said “Honey, maybe we could schedule a honeymoon planning meeting?” Suddenly he understood a little better.

 
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Mrs. Cheese, Knoxville Age and Occupation: 29, Engineering Manager Fiance's Age and Occupation: 27, CAD Designer Engagement Date: July 31, 2008 Wedding Date: May, 2009 Blogging Since: October 16, 2008 Venue: Our home and the two acres it sits on About Me: I’m an emotional girl who loves sentimental things, parenthetical asides, and trying to do things herself. I can cook, sew, am a whiz at planning, terrible at delegating, and totally in love with my fiancé (who will be my second husband but first love of the rest of my life). For our home/ garden/ DIY wedding, we’ll be moonlighting as interior designers, home improvers, and gardeners with the help of our fabulous friends and neighbors. We can’t wait to be married, and are learning how fun getting married can be.

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