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Mrs. Joey, Seattle Age and Occupation: 28, Project Administrator for Public Health NGO Fiance's Age and Occupation: 30, High School History Teacher Engagement Date: June 24, 2008 Wedding Date: August 2009 Venue: Eastside Catholic Chapel and Lake Union Cafe About Me: I'm a Seattle girl through and through except for the fact that I don't drink coffee. I love my job most of the time because I get to travel and work with brilliant people who are trying to prevent Malaria. I love DIY projects of all sorts, cooking, and watching sports. I'd wear anything at Anthropologie and could spend all day on Etsy. I love to travel but shouldn't because I always get myself into unbelievable situations!
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Ceremony Housekeeping…

April 3rd, 2009 @ 5:25 pm by Mrs. Joey

Over the weekend Mr. Joey and I met with the priest who is marrying us, and the chapel’s wedding coordinator. We weren’t looking forward to this meeting at all. We knew there were a few housekeeping issues that needed to be taken care of.

When we first asked about getting married at the chapel, we were told its use would be free to us because Mr. Joey is a teacher at the school. When we finally met with the school’s priest, he mentioned that the fee was now $500. Hmm. I should have said something then, but Mr. Joey said to wait and he’d check it out.

Using the chapel for free was probably the number one reason we decided to hold the ceremony there. The chapel is out of the way and not really convenient unless you live east of Seattle. When the other teachers at school heard about the fee, well, let’s say they we’re less than happy. They had also been told it would be free. I don’t think anyone else is thinking of using it, but I think they like knowing they had that free option. Many teachers and staff lobbied on our behalf, and because of that (thanks guys!) we were told the administration would review the fee and we’d find out what it would really be during this housekeeping meeting. Oh great, a confrontation with a priest.

The meeting went OK. There were some highlights and some lowlights.

The good news is that we don’t have to pay the $500 fee. We’re getting it for $250. I’m totally OK with the $250, because I know all the money is going to the chapel coordinator. She’s so nice! She was happy to hear we’d be pretty low maintenance and I was happy to hear she was super flexible should anything change. Now we can use the $250 in savings to pay for the required pre-cana classes. It looks like we’ll be spending $200 on those, so I guess the in total we’re saving $50? Not bad.

Our second piece of good news is that we can arrange the seating in the chapel any way we want. I know, right? When can you do that inside a church? The seats are movable, and so is the altar. All we have to do is draw up our plans, and Geri will arrange to have things moved. I can’t wait to play around with this.

The other piece of happy news is that we will be able to set up a mini breakfast bar outside the chapel. The school is less than a year old, so they are super strict about food and drink inside. Because we’re having the wedding early and having all pictures done before 10AM, we wanted to set up a breakfast bar for people to enjoy. I haven’t mentioned too much about it yet because I wasn’t sure the school would OK it. But they say it will be fine as long as it’s set up at the bottom of the stairs or in the teachers lounge. That works for me.

I don’t think we got bad news as much as we got a nice good slap of reality. We’re doing a Catholic blessing. We originally wanted to do a non-denominational ceremony, but both Mama Joey and FMIL Joey asked that we be married in a Catholic ceremony. FMIL Joey has been super great about supporting whatever we want, so we felt like we could do this for her. So, a blessing it is. For some reason, we thought a blessing would be the Rite of Marriage, followed by a blessing, and then we’d all peace out. Um, nope. It’s the full mass without communion. Mr. Joey was not happy about this.

Now we need to think about scripture readings, gospels and psalms. We hadn’t realized this because in our first meeting, we were told a blessing would take no more than 30 minutes. We weren’t provided with any materials about Catholic ceremonies at that time, because the school didn’t have any. We are the first couple to officially be married in the chapel. I probably should have done some research myself. D’oh! So now we’re going to get our scripture on. Non-scripture passages cannot replace the two required scripture readings, but can be read in addition to them. So that means no non-scripture passages. We’ve got to be out of there fast because of the hydro races and Blue Angels. Remember? I freaked out about them.

We also learned that we can’t have aisle runner and that we have to use musical selections from their list. I told Mr. Joey to push the list. He’s picked out music and I think it is totally appropriate for a church ceremony; definitely more so than Endless Love, which is on the list. I think if Geri and Father hear the selections, they’ll be fine with it.

So, the meeting wasn’t all bad, but it wasn’t all great. We have a little more work to do, a little less freedom, and $50 extra to play with, but I guess that’s the way it goes.

Did you get any surprises (good or bad) from your church or officiate late in the game? What were they, and how did you adjust?

P.S. If any of you in the Seattle area took a pre-cana or other marriage prep course you really liked, will you shoot me a note or mention it below? Since the chapel doesn’t offer marriage prep, we have to get it done elsewhere.

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15 Responses to “Ceremony Housekeeping…”

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Suong

My FI and I are going to an Engaged Encounters retreat this weekend. I think this might be the same as pre-cana?

 
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phruphru (message)  184 posts, Blushing bee

I’m glad you were able to get a discounted rate for the chapel but it still kind of sucks that everyone thought it would be free.

Re: everything else, getting married in the Catholic church means you really have a lot of rules to follow. It wouldn’t be a Catholic wedding if you read from Shakespeare instead of scripture or walked down the aisle to “Another One Bites the Dust” (not that you would!!). It’s just part of what it is. I’m actually really surprised that they were flexible about the breakfast bar. Then again, if you aren’t having Communion, the eating-before-mass thing isn’t an issue.

As for the readings, there are some good and even beautiful Scriptures you can choose from. I was really worried about this because I am Catholic but my fiance is not and I didn’t want to alienate his family with too many “Yay, Jesus” readings. In our pre-Cana booklet, we got a bunch of different ideas and we took things from there. Selecting the readings was actually a great experience. It was great to read familiar passages and think about what it will be like to hear them on our wedding day when we make a promise in the church together.

 
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Jennifer

We are going to one of our marriage preparation classes tomorrow. When we first met with the priest we were given a book of do’s and don’ts for our ceremony.
Nothing at church is free. Although my church does not charge a fee, the do require several hundred dollars of “donations” to be made. A donation to use the facility, a donation to the priest, donation to the chapel coordinator, altar boys/girls…etc., etc.

 
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Newport Nuptials (message)  1,230 posts, Bumble bee

We are just going through church housekeeping now, it has been a disaster and we are still working through some things, I’m glad everything is turing out better for you!

We are doing our precana this summer, so if you go first, I’d love to see a post with your thoughts!

 
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And Enide

My fiance and I are also having a wedding ceremony without a Mass. We had a lot of fun picking scripture readings–I posted a lot about it on my blog. We finally settled on readings about the way we want to live our lives together:Hebrews 13:1-4a, 5-6 and Matthew 22:35-40.

We also picked Tobit 8:4b-8 because the story of Tobit is a lot of fun.

Good luck picking your own readings. Don’t let it stress you out!

 
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LatteLove (message)  5,587 posts, Bee Keeper

Check out the wiki on ceremony readings (http://wiki.weddingbee.com/Reading) and the knot’s guide to wedding vows and traditions book. You can always ask the priest if you get stuck, right?
I’m not Catholic, but we picked Song of Solomon 8:5,6

 
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lobstergirl (message)  260 posts, Helper bee

Miss Joey,

Glad things seem to be working out okay for you minus the full Catholic wedding. I think the breakfast bar sounds great, and I am sure much appreciated by your guests. Just one thing to think about (don’t want to throw a wrench in your plans, but didn’t want you to get surprised). You may have already done this. Check with the priest if you are having breakfast bar before the ceremony, because (having spent most of my childhood in catholic school) I was told you aren’t supposed to eat an hour before communion. Now, I know most people don’t think this is a big deal, but if it is a big deal to your priest, then he might not allow it. Like I said if he already knows, great, just didn’t want you to get surprised.

 
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marion

There are some excellent readings suggestions for a Catholic wedding here:

http://www.sacredhearthouston.org/readings.htm

Good luck!

 
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phruphru (message)  184 posts, Blushing bee

@lobstergirl, she’s not having Communion. But I know what you mean, kind of — for old-school Catholics, seeing food served before mass might be jarring, even if they know there’s no Communion.

 
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mrspaetz (message)  3,805 posts, Honey bee

you could consider have the seats in a somehwat circular fashion all around you, since you have a larger guestlist.

we had wanted something like that, to create a more inclusive feel, but ultimately scaled down and changed our venue.

 
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dhoodsquirrel (message)  48 posts, Newbee

Im not in seattle, but you could probably just google engaged encounter in your area and find something!

My dad lived in Sammamish for a while, your wedding should be beautiful, congrats!

 
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lobstergirl (message)  260 posts, Helper bee

@phruphru & Miss. Joey: sorry, misread the “without communion” as “with communion” :)

 
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Miss Joey (message)  1,031 posts, Bumble bee

@marion: &@LatteLove: Thanks for the suggestions. I’ll look into it.

I also was able to get this really great guide to getting married in the catholic church from Campus Ministry at Seattle U. It’s totally Catholic Marriages for Dummies. If anyone is interested, send me a massage.

 
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KarebearTG

Our priest had us buy “Together for Life” from Amazon. I think it cost us $3.50.

It has been 2 and 8 options for basically everything - from reading to psalm to prayers of the faithful to marriage blessing. It made it really easy for FH and me.

http://www.amazon.com/Together-Life-Joseph-M-Champlin/dp/0877936161/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1239030515&sr=8-1

 
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kc

I went to a Catholic college (nowhere near Seattle) and did their alumni pre-cana, which was half the price and half the time of our church’s program. Just an idea in case there is a college that you could take advantage of nearby.

 

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Mrs. Joey, Seattle Age and Occupation: 28, Project Administrator for Public Health NGO Fiance's Age and Occupation: 30, High School History Teacher Engagement Date: June 24, 2008 Wedding Date: August 2009 Venue: Eastside Catholic Chapel and Lake Union Cafe About Me: I'm a Seattle girl through and through except for the fact that I don't drink coffee. I love my job most of the time because I get to travel and work with brilliant people who are trying to prevent Malaria. I love DIY projects of all sorts, cooking, and watching sports. I'd wear anything at Anthropologie and could spend all day on Etsy. I love to travel but shouldn't because I always get myself into unbelievable situations!

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