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Mrs. Cheese, Knoxville Age and Occupation: 29, Engineering Manager Fiance's Age and Occupation: 27, CAD Designer Engagement Date: July 31, 2008 Wedding Date: May, 2009 Blogging Since: October 16, 2008 Venue: Our home and the two acres it sits on About Me: I’m an emotional girl who loves sentimental things, parenthetical asides, and trying to do things herself. I can cook, sew, am a whiz at planning, terrible at delegating, and totally in love with my fiancé (who will be my second husband but first love of the rest of my life). For our home/ garden/ DIY wedding, we’ll be moonlighting as interior designers, home improvers, and gardeners with the help of our fabulous friends and neighbors. We can’t wait to be married, and are learning how fun getting married can be.
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On Apologizing

April 10th, 2009 @ 5:33 pm by Mrs. Cheese

One of my friends and her husband asked each other, “Will you forgive me?” instead of saying, “I’m sorry.” In looking back at the lead-in to the battles between my guy and I, I’ve notice that the escalation often begins with the first “I’m sorry.”

I’m not gonna lie, I’m the one that gets all worked up over a bad apology. “I’m sorry that you are so upset” doesn’t cut it in my book. Neither does, “I’m sorry but you really ticked me off when…” or, “I”m sorry I have a bad temper.” Apologizing that we’re fighting isn’t what I’m looking for, ya know?

You sweethearts will likely point me to “The Five Languages of Apology” by the author of “The Five Love Languages”, and you’ll be absolutely right that it’s a super fantastic book. My guy, however, doesn’t learn particularly well from reading. {I know, weird, right?} He’s an experiential learner, which means that until he experiences something — or can find an experience in his past that relates in some way — he doesn’t really “get it”.

I have a cat that beats up dogs… well, he’ll try.

Yup, 12 pound cat will go after an 85 pound dog. I told the mister about this a hundred times. I told him about taking Frank (the cat) to Central Park on a harness and how he was super sweet to kids but would growl at passing dogs. I told him that my sweet greyhound was rehomed because her soft personality couldn’t handle the psychological pressure of living with Frank. I told him and told him and told him.

One weekend we kept my BFF’s dog and a few days later Mr. Cheese remarked IN FRONT OF ME, “She told me that her cat would go after dogs, but I was completely surprised when her cat went after the dog!” Sigh.

We had an argument a few nights ago about how we handle the other’s stressors; it’s a recurring argument. What catapulted it into a fight, though, was his apology: “I’m sorry… but you’re making way too big a deal out of this and you should stop overreacting.” Yes, that’s paraphrased.

And then the claws came out.

I’m a terrible apologizer too, always wanting to explain why I screwed up because that’s what I’d want to hear. If you know why you did it, then you can come up with a way to avoid it in the future, right? For him, not so much. He just wants the whole thing to be over. Poof. Apology given, accepted, back to normal. I, unfortunately, nurse my hurts until I’ve talked it all out.

Have you caught the problem? He really wants to just go back to normal and I really want to analyze and understand it all. Uh, oh. If I do it his way, I stew and dwell and feel hopelessly lonely. If he does it my way, the escalation never ends because he will say or do just about anything (within reason, whatever that means during a fight) to end it.

By this morning, we’re over it. I hated every. single. second. of it, but he kept to himself most of the evening yesterday, then invited me to join him in watching the sunset. Silently. (Shoot me, please.) But whatever, it was a peace offering. I have a bunch of theories and solutions and suggestions, but talking through them isn’t going to work with this man, so instead, we’re going to experience the changes.

I think I’ll start by asking, “Will you forgive me?”

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16 Responses to “On Apologizing”

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shannamt (message)  129 posts, Blushing bee

Haha, it sounds like your cat Frank is a lot like my cat Frankie. Neighbors have remarked at how she’s gone after their dogs. Maybe I’ll try saying “will you forgive me” instead of “I’m sorry” next time ;) Really though, I understand where you are coming from. Maybe it’s a guy thing but reading and talking doesn’t stick near as well as doing and seeing for my guy as well.

 
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Miss Joey (message)  1,031 posts, Bumble bee

Oh, you and I are the same and Mr. Joey and Mr. Cheese are the same. I HATE it when we have an arguement and he can just fall asleep! Meanwhile I’m laying there just getting madder and madder. We don’t fight much but we are still working on the sorry part.

 
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TheEditrix (message)  135 posts, Blushing bee

Very interesting insight, Miss Cheese! My FI and I are also working on ways to argue more “effectively” without it turning into a massive meltdown. We were in a rather heated argument a couple of months ago and I felt like the things he was saying to me were really just mean (which is out of character for him). So I said that he was really hurting me, and he said something to the effect of “that’s your problem.”

Yeah. Not good. He knows that the whole episode was pretty upsetting to me and he really has apologized and that hasn’t happened since. But I know exactly how you feel with the whole “you’re just overreacting”-type thing.

 
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Lexie

I think it’s a good thing to be bad at fighting - it means that you don’t have too much practice at it! I got a greyhound about eight months ago - he’s such a sweetheart, but living with our bossy, demanding, and sometimes downright mean corgi is a bit trying for him.

 
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rnc620 (message)  658 posts, Busy bee

You and your FI are mirror images of my FI and I! I am a huge over analyzer and I will fight for four hours if he’ll put up with it. But he always just tries to apologize and make it go away… even if he isn’t sorry at all. He just wants it over. Of course this just makes the fight go on longer because we have to then analyze why he apologizes (or whatever fight ending tactic he might try) when he’s not sorry.

On another note.. I have a super crazy cat. When I lived alone she would attack anyone who came into my apartment if I wasn’t there (and sometimes if I was). My landlord called her an attack cat. I always thought that was hilarious!

 
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lauralou852 (message)  516 posts, Busy bee

@ Miss Joey - I agree!! It just makes me more upset that he’s able to fall asleep and seemingly forget about the whole thing!

 
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Trisha

you’re cool, miss cheese.

and i mean that as a compliment.

live and learn! (viscious cycle, isn’t it?)

 
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LoriLori (message)  727 posts, Busy bee

I’m jealous of those of you who actually GET apologies! Although I unerstand how useless an apology is if it is not heartfelt. My FI can roll over and go to sleep too - no matter how upset I am. If he;s done, he’s done. Unless I put up a huge stink. Men!!!!! Grrrrr.

 
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cj2009 (message)  304 posts, Helper bee

i really like this post miss cheese. thanks for the insight.

 
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chicagowife (message)  844 posts, Busy bee

I write this for all your posts, but I just love how honest you are. You always keep it so real and I always feel like I’m not alone after reading your posts.

 
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Amber

Its good not to feel alone. I too have a crazy cat…..as well as a fiance who will apologize just to end any argument. I always want to talk things out and he wants everything to be happy and on to the next moment - even if that means apologizing when he isn’t sorry, or even apologizing when I’ve done something wrong!

 
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cedes

I think this falls safely under the Guy Thing / Girl Thing category. It’s taken a while, but I’ve finally figured out that arguing with the boy or expecting him to apologize the way I want is never going to work. And although it KILLS ME not to get in the ‘final say’ and win the argument, you have to weigh whether it’s more important to you to have your fight or to make up with the man that you love. It’s always easier to discuss things when you’re both calm, and sometimes you just have to take a break, go read Bridget Jones’ Diary until you cool off, and come back when you’re both able to remember why you’re together in the first place.
Men are very defensive in arguments. If you wait until the tension is diffused, it’s much easier to explain that you think the solution to X is Y, and X needs to be fixed because Z.

 
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West Coast Bride (message)  708 posts, Busy bee

This really is so similar to West Coast Groom and I! He usually feels like I’m trying to prolong the fight because I move on from the fight itself to analyzing the fight. And when I get no feedback on my analysis (or no help in building that analysis) then I feel like he doesn’t care about trying to figure out how to best avoid the same fight in the future and my claws come out too. Or I storm off. One of the two, and either way it ain’t pretty. I’m sorry you’re going through rough stuff right now, Miss Cheese. We’re only about a month away and I have found the stress-related fighting much more upsetting because of that.

 
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Miss Hot Wings (message)  2,213 posts, Buzzing bee

I commend you on knowing yourself that well, and in particular, knowing your fighting and mending style. I am very much like you on the apology and talking it through needs. I wonder if Mr. Cheese knows his fighting/mending style as well as you know yours. And of course, vice versa, that he knows your fighting/mending style and his own style.

 
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Miss Cheese (message)  801 posts, Busy bee

@West Coast Bride: Just confirms that you and I are the same person. ;)

@nelzbels: Nope. He doesn’t. I am coming to accept that I am the partner with the ability to understand and adapt to the other. He tries, and he’s very, very successful at handling me as long as his buttons aren’t pushed. Since I freak out much more often than he does, I figure it’s fair that during the really tough times, I’m the one who has to take the high road. I don’t like it, but it’s fair. :)

 
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ChrissyM

I’m way late in reading this post, but just had to comment that I too have the exact same issues with my guy… we don’t fight much, but when we do, it drives me nuts that he is able to just “sleep it off” and move on so easily. Meanwhile, I drive him crazy by constantly wanting to talk everything to death. As a result, we actually have way more fights about our fighting styles than we do about actual issues! Le sigh. Men are so strange sometimes.

 

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Mrs. Cheese, Knoxville Age and Occupation: 29, Engineering Manager Fiance's Age and Occupation: 27, CAD Designer Engagement Date: July 31, 2008 Wedding Date: May, 2009 Blogging Since: October 16, 2008 Venue: Our home and the two acres it sits on About Me: I’m an emotional girl who loves sentimental things, parenthetical asides, and trying to do things herself. I can cook, sew, am a whiz at planning, terrible at delegating, and totally in love with my fiancé (who will be my second husband but first love of the rest of my life). For our home/ garden/ DIY wedding, we’ll be moonlighting as interior designers, home improvers, and gardeners with the help of our fabulous friends and neighbors. We can’t wait to be married, and are learning how fun getting married can be.

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