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Mrs. Mary Jane, Grand Forks, ND Age and Occupation: 26, Instructional Designer Fiance's Age and Occupation: 26, Lead Programmer Engagement Date: February 28, 2009 Wedding Date: September 2009 Venue: City Hall About Me: I'm a career woman on the surface and a homemaker at heart. I love fast cars and high heels, and my favorite food is cake. Mr. Mary Jane and I are both full-time employees and students, and we just bought our first house. We love to curl up on the couch with buttery popcorn, Sour Patch Kids, and the latest Netflix arrival -- whenever we can get a break from everyday life.
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Confession of a Ringzilla

April 23rd, 2009 @ 4:11 pm by Mrs. Mary Jane

I’m embarrassed to admit it, but I may have gotten a little obsessed with the impending engagement between the time that I helped pick out the ring and when Mr. Mary Jane chose to give it to me.

It wasn’t the ring itself that I wanted. I mean, of course I wanted the ring, in its beautiful sparkly gorgeousness… but what I wanted more than anything was to be engaged (and then married) to Mr. Mary Jane. We were so close. Sooooo close. And I was SO ready for the next step.

I tried to be a mature, compassionate adult about the whole thing. I convinced myself that I found it sweet that Mr. MJ wanted to be traditional about the proposal. He is, after all, a door-opening, coat-taking, heavy-stuff-carrying gentleman. It was nice of him to include me in the ring-picking process, which I enjoyed very much. I would let him do this himself, on his own time.

Growing up, upon finding out about something fun I were going to do in the near future, I used to make myself sick with excitement. I suspect it’s the same with many children, but I’ve never really grown out of it. Instead of a stomach ache, adult me just gets really, really obsessed with the matter at hand. Say, for example, Mr. Mary Jane and I had decided to get a kitten, but we wouldn’t get him for a month. I’d spend that whole month reading everything there is to know about kittens, looking at pictures of kittens, visiting kittens in the humane society, talking to kitten-owners about their vets, and buying cute crap for the kitten to play with when it arrived. I’d probably even make color-coded kitten-related charts. I like to be in control, and I like to plan. And when I can’t get what I want right now, I want to know when I will get it so that I can prepare. I have no excuse for this; it’s a flaw of mine. (And yes, I’m an only child. What gave it away?)

This surprise-engagement thing really bothered me. Again, I wasn’t after the ring, but it was symbolic for the next step to come. I was confused as to why Mr. Mary Jane didn’t want us to be engaged right away. I wondered how long I’d have to wait. I’m generally a “glass-half-empty” person, especially when it comes to matters concerning my character. I wondered what was wrong with me. Was he thinking twice about our future? (I have NO reason to suspect this.) Why wasn’t he as excited to get engaged as I was? I kept pushing the subject. I got annoying. I tried to get him to talk about wedding styles. About guest lists. I sent him links to wedding stuff. He was pretty tolerant, but I knew I shouldn’t be bugging him so much. I was being dumb. I knew it meant a lot to him to do the proposal his own way, on his own time. But I couldn’t let it drop.

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I got pushier and pushier as time passed. Valentine’s day came and went, but not without me wondering if maybe he had the ring - maybe it was somehow possible. He gave me a beautiful pink marquise ring for my right hand for Valentine’s Day (along with other thoughtful gifts).

I started to get angry about the whole situation. I am the first to admit that I have traditional values regarding family. I would love to be a housewife, I love when Mr. Mary Jane does manly things for me to help me out (even though I’m quite capable), and I love being ’taken care of’ by him. But this proposal thing had my feminist waters boiling. Weren’t we supposed to be doing this as equals? As a couple? Why did HE get to see the ring? Why should HE get to choose when to propose? It just made me jealous and mad. I felt like he was stringing me along, teasing me, or maybe even trying to teach me a lesson about patience. It was bringing out the worst in me.

What bothered me the most is that he had admitted that he wasn’t thinking about it much at all, most of the time. He was very busy with his job and with many projects for his classes. Rational me thought this was very understandable. But obsessive, anxious me didn’t understand why this matter wasn’t important enough for him to take some time to think about. And another part of me was envious that he COULD stop thinking about it. I couldn’t, and my interest in work and school was paling in comparison to my obsession with the engagement. Then a good friend got engaged and started talking all about dresses and other weddingy stuff. I was so jealous! But also thrilled for her, of course.

Mr. Mary Jane eventually had a talk with me. He put it very tactfully, but basically he’d noticed that I was being clingy and weird. If he went somewhere, I wanted to know where, and why, and when he’d be back. If he stayed home, I wanted to know what he was doing/thinking. I really wouldn’t leave the poor guy alone. He explained that he really wanted to “do this right”. He wanted to put a lot of thought in to the engagement and proposal process. He didn’t want to casually toss me the ring - which is what would happen if he was under a time-crunch to propose when he had so much other pressing stuff going on in his life. He wanted time to really think about it - to really figure out what he wanted to do. It was hard for him to get any time to think about us because when he wasn’t working on academic or professional problems, he was being bombarded with questions from me.

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I knew I was being terribly unfair to him (in my mind and to his face), and I really did want to give him a chance to do this his way. I wanted him to be as excited about it as I was, and he couldn’t have that chance unless he was given time to think and plan. I didn’t want this to be a sour experience for Mr. Mary Jane. And I didn’t want him to remember our engagement as a time when he finally just had to Give The Crazy Lady What She Wanted So She’d Stop Freaking Out Already.

He asked me if I’d be OK with him showing the ring to other people before I saw it. I asked a bunch of questions about that (Who? Why? When?) but he wouldn’t budge. Finally I conceded. Although I didn’t like that it might “spoil” me being able to show it off to close friends or family, he insisted that this person or people wouldn’t be people I’d be rushing to show it to anyway. I figured that maybe he wanted to talk to his dad about it, or maybe he was going to call my dad? (That’d be weird, I thought… and he actually DID call my dad as a matter of fact!) Maybe he wanted to confide in a friend. I chewed on those thoughts and a million others well in to the night, long after he was asleep and our conversation was over.

Finally, I decided to try to let it go. Not just the “who’s he going to show it to?” but the whole thing. The whole damn proposal. Just let it go. If he were to propose tomorrow? That’d be great. In a month? Great. Six months? (Well, that’s pushing it, I might get a little anxious by then. :)) I had to stop thinking about it. I had to pretend I didn’t know about it. I had to pretend it didn’t matter. I had to do this not only for him, but also for me. If we both wanted a special and memorable proposal, I had to stop second-guessing all of his activities, wondering if this could be The Moment, or if he’s planning to do it this weekend, or thinking that now would have been a great time to do it. I didn’t want to later be gushing to my girlfriends: “Well, the proposal went like this: I badgered and prodded at him until he finally shouted ’JUST TAKE THE DAMN THING!’ and I said ’YAYYY!’”

It’s insanely hard to stop thinking about a subject of obsession. My mom has said that she knows when I’ve got something on my mind because I pretty much stop talking. That’s because when I force myself to stop thinking about something, I stop thinking about everything. There’s nothing more important than That Which Cannot Be Thought About, so I just kind of clam up. Mr. MJ noticed this right away, the morning after our talk. He pointed it out, so I told him I was trying not to think about it anymore. No sense in being dishonest. He told me that if I was not OK with that, then we should be talking about it.

I’d like to say that I was able to successfully lay off and be patient, but I wasn’t. I think I got better, but I was still pretty engulfed by the whole process. He proposed within a few days of our talk, partially (I think) because he was tired of seeing me looking sad and withdrawn. His proposal was perfect for me (I got to be engaged to my man!), but I wonder whether it was everything he’d envisioned (if I even gave him a moment to envision anything, that is).

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To all the almost-engaged ladies out there: listen to me. Don’t do this to yourselves. And if you can’t help but obsess, don’t take it out on your man. Remember who he is and why you want to marry him so badly. Showing him your ugliest, greediest side when he’s trying to plan an uber-romantic experience for you both is not the preferred way to get what you want. He wants the best for you both. You probably proudly take care of yourself pretty well in most aspects. Let him have this one thing. I wish I’d done a better job of that.

Have you got an engagement or wedding planning moments you’re not proud of?

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rasgoola
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rasgoola (message)  155 posts, Blushing bee

UGH… I 100% know what you went through. I found myself nodding my head in agreement during your whole post. I had scouted out rings with my FI in the fall of 07 and by the time March 08 rolled around and nothing had happened I was beyond myself. All I did was talk about it, or complain about him to my friends or push him about what was taking so long. Little did I know that he had bought the ring at the beginning of Feb, and although he had let my bday, vday and a trip to Mexico go by, he was waiting for the right time for himself. I had several nightmares about him not proposing at all until the night before Easter when I had a dream that everything truely was going to be ok. I called him Easter morning on my way to his house to tell him that I was sorry and that I would relax and trust him to do what was best for both of us and he ended up proposing that afternoon!

I think I needed so badly to know every detail that I was stifling my FI. When he finally saw me (the calm, loving girl he fell in love with) he was ready to propose!

PS… sorry for the long comment!!

 
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aliangel64 (message)  135 posts, Blushing bee

Just wanted to say I love everything by Anne Taintor (your first image)!

 
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miss star
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miss star (message)  2,057 posts, Buzzing bee

I knew he had purchased the ring about 4 months before he actually gave it to me because he was so excited that he couldn’t keep it to himself. But, like Mr. MJ, he wanted to “do it right,” so to speak, and so I, too, tortured myself with wondering when he was going to do it and how. It was hard. But worth the wait!

 
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irishgirl
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irishgirl (message)  264 posts, Helper bee

I can completely relate to your story. I was the same way. I badgered and there were a lot of tears and wondering why he hadn’t proposed yet. In the end I think I may have rushed him a bit and my proposal ended up being him asking me, very nervously, while sitting on the couch watching TV. My guy isn’t too romantic so I don’t think he would have planned anything too elaborate, but I hate telling the proposal story to people. I wish it had been a little more interesting.

 
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redbullfanatic
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redbullfanatic (message)  489 posts, Helper bee

He had the ring for a year and had shown some of our friends and there I am thinking it’s never going to happen. We finally planned another trip to Maui and I figured okay okay this is going to be it, he’s going to do it. We had wonderful moments where he could have popped the question, a bike ride to the winery, a drive around the island where we had various stops, tons of moments! Nothing. So by the end of the week I was a bitch, wanted to go home, blah blah blah. Finally our last night he did it at the place we spend our last night every time in Maui. He said he had wanted to go to the waterfall in Hana to do it but some loser (me) forgot her tennis shoes and couldn’t go hiking so I ruined that. Even though I like the way it all happened I wish I would have brought my stupid tennies so I could know what he would have done and said.

 
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FlipFlopBride
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FlipFlopBride (message)  1,437 posts, Bumble bee

I don’t think my FI actually ever cared about the whole proposal process. He’s actually very clueless about traditions (how????).
Basically he asked me to marry him (very seriously) from about four months into our relationship on. The proposal became a very casual occurance, and even after the 5930458909th “yes”, I still didn’t have a ring. I demanded a bit of tradition, and told him that we had too many other obligations to buy a “dream ring” right now.

Found a used set that I loved on Craigslist…went to check it out…wore it home. Done deal.

Looking back, the whole experience is actually a disappointment because I was NOT a “Ringzilla”.

 
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lauralou852
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lauralou852 (message)  516 posts, Busy bee

I can totally relate to everything you said!! I remember your post on the boards about knowing he had the ring (before you were a bee!) and being able to completely relate to that too. I waited (not so) patiently for 2 months, and looking back I could’ve been a LOT nicer/less annoying about it. Thankfully, my fiance is wonderful and still went out of his way to surprise me with a proposal that was better than anything I’d imagined!

 
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Lauren

This post really resonated with me. Leading up to our engagement, I found myself very preoccupied about it - did he have the ring, when was he going to do it, how much time we would have to plan since I was hoping for a fall wedding. Of course, everything worked out perfectly! My guy said the same thing as yours about wanting to “do things the right way” which is actually really sweet!

 
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MissPotterbear

Love this post. I felt like you peeked in my diary to write it! My FI knew 6 months before he proposed that he was going to do it and I knew at least a year before that I wanted to marry him. Each day the pressure builds and builds until I became consumed! It was not my best moment. In the end, he surprised me right after I had vowed to just let it go (er, I did have a secret internal deadline in my mind where I would again be crazy if it hadn’t happened yet so maybe saying that I let it go is an overstatement:) Awesome post Miss MJ!

 
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EAQ219
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EAQ219 (message)  1,448 posts, Bumble bee

As a fellow only child, let me tell you that if you ever DO get a kitten (or a dog for that matter) you WILL go through the scenario you described above. It just happened to me and my FI…and at times it got REAL ugly.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand. I was kind of the same way before we got engaged or even started looking at rings. My feeling was that since we’d decided we wanted to be with each other forever, it was OK to talk about it non-stop. I did the whole dreaming about themes, sending him links, all-wedding-all-the-time thing. He eventually had a “talk” with me, too. After that, while I continued to look at wedding and photography blogs, I kept it to myself. Luckily, a few months later we looked at rings :)

 
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Carbon Girl
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Carbon Girl (message)  691 posts, Busy bee

I was the same way in my head but was able to keep the anxieties and badgering away from my FI. Now talking to my girlfriends about the whens and wheres? That is when I let all my anxieties out. And I have to say, I too am rather ashamed now. I think it would have been more of a surprise if I hadn’t been secretly paying attention to his every move.

 
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sjpaek (message)  60 posts, Worker bee

I hate surprises….i feel so sorry for my FI! Everytime he would get me a gift for our anniversary i would rip through his room like a tornado! so since we have been dating for 10 years (this June) i knew the engagement was coming…probably cause i nagged him to death! and i was hoping he would propose while on our vacation so i would ask him question after question and he go so good about not telling me anything until we were talking in bed and he accidentally said something about the ring while he was dozing off! when he realized what he did, he woke up and couldnt go to sleep for the rest of the night cause he was so mad! to this day i feel horrible…..and we laugh about it now but i ruin the surprise with all my unnecessary questions! can you blame me?! i want to be his wife damn it!

 
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MrsSl82be
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MrsSl82be (message)  7,970 posts, Bee Keeper

I think i was VERY fortunate in the fact that I had no idea he had the ring for 3 months before he proposed! He spent about a month looking for rings on his lunch break and after work (he’s a mechanic so he never really comes home at a set time so I thought nothing of it). He found the ring and kept it hidden in his pants drawer the whole time and i had no clue since we each do our own laundry (which I made sure to point out was a benefit or I would have found the ring :) )

My point is, had I known he had the ring, I would have badgered a little. But the older I get the more I’m able to ignore things like that. But I do wonder what it would have been like had I known….

 
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Chris

OH MY GOD. I think I wrote this post. And of course when he proposed…it was perfect. I might admit right now that I found where he hid the ring and wore it around when he wasn’t there. Maybe. But probably not.

 
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Carbon Girl
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Carbon Girl (message)  691 posts, Busy bee

sjpaek! That is how my FI spilled the beans too, in his sleep. He didn’t wake up, so I didn’t tell him he accidentally told me about the ring until after the proposal!

 
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lit_geek26
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lit_geek26 (message)  138 posts, Blushing bee

Ahhh you’re not alone, sister. A similar thing happened to me, in that I became frustrated that it was “his” decision and not “our” decision, you know? AFter many many talks I finally reconciled myself to the notion that a tiny part of me did want to be surprised, and I “allowed” him the proposal, which makes me sound like a huge brat (I will allow you to gift me with jewelry, sir!) but yeah…I know what you mean.

 
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LulaDiciePearl (message)  7 posts, Newbee

I can TOTALLY relate! This sounded soooo much like our engagement process… Miss MJ, we might be twins

 
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Mrs. Penguin
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Mrs. Penguin (message)  3,499 posts, Sugar bee

My tantrums came during other people’s weddings. I really had very little interest in getting married rightthissecond, but when those save the dates and invitations to other peoples weddings came in the mail, I admit I’d hate those couples a little bit. Then, when the weddings came, I was a royal pain in the ass. If Mr. Peng didn’t treat me like a 100% princess at the weddings (he never did, how could he? I was looking for any small thing to set me off!) I’d ruin the night for both of us and make sure he didn’t have fun. I got sick, sick satisfaction out of it. But it really bothered the crap out of me when couples that were together for a smaller time period than we were got married… and funny enough, I had a really good time at the weddings where I knew the couple had been together longer than Mr. Peng and I… it was almost like, “Yes! It’s your turn!”

I was a royal bitch those last 2 years or so before we got engaged when it came to other people’s weddings :) Funny enough, I’m not really that ashamed of it either. I still felt like it should have been us before a lot of them… even though it’s none of my business when people choose to get married, and how far into their relationships they choose to do so! I’m just crazy like that.

 
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Ashley

Thanks for the post.. I’m there now! My boyfriend and I have talked pretty extensively about getting married and we’ve even looked at rings… I’m starting to get a little annoying about the whole thing and your post really provided me a little perspective. It is so easy to get caught up in what is to come (Heck, I’m reading a wedding blog already aren’t I!?) that I’m not spending nearly enough time just enjoying this time. Thank you so much! I should probably bookmark this post as a reminder… and maybe look at it each morning before I start getting crazy! :)

 
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irishgirl
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irishgirl (message)  264 posts, Helper bee

@Mrs. Penguin - I also had tantrums at other people’s weddings. When your are “waiting” for a proposal it’s very hard to be at someone elses happy day. I would end up ruining our night when we attended other peoples weddings. I think I ended up in tears at both!

 
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Mrs. Mary Jane, Grand Forks, ND Age and Occupation: 26, Instructional Designer Fiance's Age and Occupation: 26, Lead Programmer Engagement Date: February 28, 2009 Wedding Date: September 2009 Venue: City Hall About Me: I'm a career woman on the surface and a homemaker at heart. I love fast cars and high heels, and my favorite food is cake. Mr. Mary Jane and I are both full-time employees and students, and we just bought our first house. We love to curl up on the couch with buttery popcorn, Sour Patch Kids, and the latest Netflix arrival -- whenever we can get a break from everyday life.

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