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Mrs. Bruschetta, Philadelphia Age and Occupation: 25, Communication Professional Fiance's Age and Occupation: 25, Physical Therapy Graduate Student Engagement Date: November 30, 2007 Wedding Date: August 2009 Venue: St. Thomas of Villanova Church & the F.U.E.L. House About Me: I’m a self-proclaimed grammar geek who loves singing (like, really belting it) in the car. My mister and I are planning a vibrant summer soiree celebrating our passions – including food and Philly – and when we make it official, we’ll have been together for eight years! Being super competitive is in my nature, and talking excessively is in my genes. I’ve got a terrible sense of direction, but can always easily find my way into Mr. Bruschetta’s arms.
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Lofty Ambitions

May 14th, 2009 @ 3:45 pm by Mrs. Bruschetta

Stand. Sit. Stand. Sit. Stand again. Kneel. Sit. Stand. For anyone unfamiliar with the Catholic faith, attending or participating in a church wedding can be confusing — for some, boring.

Lofty Ambitions :  wedding ceremony Bored

And, as we learned upon reserving our date and time, it can also be overwhelming. A few weeks after securing our spot with the parish wedding coordinator, we received a large envelope in the mail, reminiscent of college acceptance packets. Inside, a reference booklet explained every aspect of our upcoming marriage — from information about the Pre-Cana program to the required documents we’d need to complete prior to the wedding.

At first, this guide seemed like a great way to stay organized, with all the key dates, deadlines and phone numbers in one location.

A few pages in, however, we found the six “environmental guidelines”, which place certain limitations on the decorations permitted within and immediately outside the church. I was particularly concerned about numbers three and six:

3) St. Thomas of Villanova parish will provide the flowers in the church for your wedding. The flowers will be coordinated with the church environment. We provide this as a service to our wedding couples and to ensure a quality liturgical environment for all the many services that take place in the Church. No additional flowers or decorations are to be brought into the church.

6) Out of respect for the church building: rice, birdseed, confetti, rose petals, balloon launches are not permitted anywhere on the grounds.

Of course, I realize these details are merely that — small decorative elements to enhance the beauty of the wedding day — and the real focus can and will be on our committing to one another for the rest of our lives. But I can’t help and worry that, with up to two other weddings scheduled in the church on our date, the flowers that are selected for us (and not at all by us) won’t match all the carefully coordinated attire, accessories and, yes, bouquets. And I’m seriously stumped as to how we could have a celebratory exit from the church if tossing anything at the newlyweds is prohibited. (Would bubbles have the same effect?)

Flip a couple more pages, and ten panic-inducing rules restricting wedding photographers and videographers will be staring back up at you. Again, I’d like to preface this diatribe with a disclaimer: I understand some of the restrictions, and would never want our vendors to disrupt the dignity and sacredness of our nuptial mass. That being said, I really think there is a middle ground between being disruptive and disrespectful, and the constraints with which we’ll be forced to comply:

3) Once the ceremony begins, photographers are asked to stand at the back of the church in the center aisle and take all photographs from that site.

4) For the video cameras, there is only one site permitted. The videographer must remain at that location throughout the ceremony. Please check with the Sacristan regarding this location.

7) Due to time limitations, group photos of the couple and/or wedding party are not permitted in the Church.

9) No photography is allowed from the choir loft.

The “Sacristan” referenced in item four will be an (uninvited) guest at our wedding, ensuring our pros follow each of the rules before, during and after the mass. I’ve shared all this information with our photographer and videographer — these policies are one of the reasons we wanted two photographers (so neither will have to move [much] to get great shots), and why we hired our videographer (who has experience working in the St. Thomas of Villanova Church, and is familiar with the locations and angles that produce great footage of the ceremony) — but still worry we might miss capturing important moments.

Reading through this booklet didn’t make me want to have our wedding at the St. Thomas of Villanova Church any less; it did, however, lead me to wonder why the coordinator set such firm restrictions, and what must have happened (one or more seriously disrupted weddings?) to necessitate such a document. And it’s made me wistful for the days when I used to coordinate student masses in this church, with possession of a skeleton key that allowed me to climb to the bell tower in the church spires, and enjoy the view from the choir loft. Part of me wishes I’d made a copy of that key, and that I were brave enough to blatantly disregard the rules keeping our pros from capturing footage in the choir loft — then, of course, part of me feels badly for even thinking of this!

Does your ceremony location come with a laundry list of specifications?

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lreighard1
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lreighard1 (message)  642 posts, Busy bee

YES! We’re also getting married at a University’s Chapel and they have some WILD restrictions.

 
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Lovespearls
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Lovespearls (message)  863 posts, Busy bee

Whoaaa I am getting married in a Catholic church too but they havent told me anything yet. Those rules are intense!

 
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minneapolitan
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minneapolitan (message)  740 posts, Busy bee

Our (big historic Lutheran) church has a lot of these kinds of restrictions too! They explained to us that with photographers especially, they had some unfortunate incidents - like a phtographer walking down the aisle taking pictures of the bride… and completely obstructing any view the groom could have of her! Most of their rules made sense - but I’m not sure what their video ones are since we don’t have to deal with it. We can’t throw anything either, but eh, we weren’t planning on having that kind of big exit thing anyway.

Btw, I think bubbles would work fine!

 
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Betsy

Yes! I am having a Catholic wedding as well. B/c my hometown is VERY Catholic, we researched several parishes (having not officially joined any, yet) and found that rules vary by parish. We were able to find a parish with rules and times that worked well for us (but we probably went to 15 or 16 churches before we settled!). We, too, can’t throw anything - and have chosen to have a confetti shower at the entrance to our reception.

 
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AnamCara
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AnamCara (message)  1,135 posts, Bumble bee

I think this is a really interesting post and I really appreciate your reaction to it. I can completely see how these restrictions might cause an extreme reaction from some people but you seem to totally understand where the parish is coming from. The parish I belong to (and grew up in and know like the back of my hand) is one of the prettiest churches in our town and as a result has become a destination for people who have no affiliation and no interest in the church aside from using it as a backdrop for photos. This has meant that lots of people (bride/groom, their families and their guests) don’t treat the church with respect and don’t behave appropriately. It is not like renting a hall or setting up a tent and some people don’t understand that. It’s a sacred place, not just a pile of bricks. I hope that despite the restrictions you will be able to capture the beauty of your day in the church that means so much to you just the way you’d like to!

 
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Lauren

Not all parishes are that strict. Our is just asking that the videographer not touch the organ. I didn’t ask about rules regarding throwing petals or confetti or what have you, since we’re not planning on doing so.

 
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yogigal
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yogigal (message)  419 posts, Helper bee

We are getting married at SS Peters & Paul in Philly. Take your list of restrictions and multiply it by 100, then you will have my ceremony….

 
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miss sweets (message)  77 posts, Worker bee

Yes! We have many rules as well, but maybe not quite as extreme. We are getting married in a Catholic cathedral as well. We are bringing our own floral arrangements but we do have to get them approved first and we must leave them in the church as decorations for everyone else to enjoy for the following week of mass. We also have the “no rice, birdseed, etc, etc” rule so we are using bells outside the church to make some noise! My sister did this a couple years ago for her wedding and it was a beautiful sound and no mess for the church…everyone was happy :)

 
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chelseamorning
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chelseamorning (message)  2,252 posts, Buzzing bee

I had my wedding in a Catholic church too and your rules are virtually identical to mine. I was worried that the rules would somehow impede the quality of the photographs of the ceremony I would get (esp. if the photographers were stuck at the back of the church), but I was totally wrong. The lenses on professional photographers’ cameras are amazing. I had close-up shots of our faces for our first kiss, my groom’s face as I walked down the aisle to meet him…. You would never know they had been standing in the back the whole time! Don’t worry one bit.

 
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Catalina

My wedding will also be ina Catholic Church and they will also be providing the flowers, I need to ask them about adding little touches to the decoration so we can personalize it and thanks for reminding me about the photographer!

 
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Keladry
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Keladry (message)  294 posts, Helper bee

YES! We haven’t even finalized our date with our church, and they are just laying down some crazy rules. Sigh. If our church wasn’t so gorgeous and if our parents didn’t mandate a Catholic ceremony, we’d be seriously rethinking our options. Good luck with the crazy rules.

 
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notsojenny

the church we’re marrying at has very few restrictions -
- no lillies (allergies)
- and photographer can’t be all walking around and up in everyone’s business during the ceremony
- no rice but seeds are fine
beyond that there’s nothing worth noting. we were talking to photographers recently who asked where we were getting married and commented “oh good, the Episcopalian churches here have too many restrictions”
i laughed at the time trying to imagine what that meant but hearing your list gives me an idea : )

… double check about bubbles though, if there’s marble near the exit they may not allow that either, i’ve heard that from about many places (makes it too slippery therefore dangerous)

 
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KAR

Scary…making me very nervous for my first meeting with my priest on Monday. I’m also nervous because while both of our families are all Catholic, all of our friends are not and it seems some of them have problems going to a full Catholic mass even though it’s a wedding. I don’t really understand this since it wouldn’t occur to me to be offended by someone else’s religious ceremony for a wedding. I’ve been to many other churchs and temples for weddings and never once thought well since I’m Catholic I shouldn’t go to this, but apparently it’s an unforeseen problem. I guess it’s on them whether they come or not. I’m Catholic so it’s a church wedding or nothing so these people better get on board or just respond with regret on their invitations.

 
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brew
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brew (message)  27 posts, Newbee

Hi Bruschetta!

My husband and I were married at Saint Thomas almost three weeks ago, and I had the many of the same anxieties you shared above. In the end, everything was wonderful. The photographers got fantastic shots during the ceremony, the videographer seemed pleased with his footage (fingers crossed!) and the flowers looked beautiful with our color scheme (I admit to breathing a sign of relief when I saw the flowers at Easter mass - my mother and I immediately looked at each other and said ‘pray they don’t change them!’).

We skipped exit fanfare entirely, but that didn’t bother me at all, in the end. We immediately snuck off for a breather in the ‘bridal holding chamber’ (as I call it) and got some of the giddiness out of our systems :-).

Saint Thomas is a fabulously photogenic church; I’m sure that your photos and video will be lovely.

Good luck!

 
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cbcdkm

Yes! No photography (at all!) was allowed in the church. The photographer was permitted to take a picture of us exiting the church after the ceremony and one of my dad and I entering the church. They did allow a videographer to be stationed at the back of the church but she couldn’t move or use a light. We haven’t gotten anything from our vendors yet to know how it turned out, but I did understand about not wanting flashes going off all the time and being distracting. However, we definitely decided to get a videographer since other wise we’d have nothing (I remember it all but it did go by fast!)

 
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Natalie

So a question for all the Catholic bees — was anyone else restricted from lighting a unity candle?

 
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mariavvisa
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mariavvisa (message)  313 posts, Helper bee

It was a surprise to me when the pastor of my anglican ceremony asked that there be no photography during the ceremony (on that day). I think I had asked him prior, and he said it would be alright, provided they weren’t intrusive, but he changed his tune. They were allowed to get pictures of us when we signed the register (a Canadian thing to do during the ceremony), and then we did some re-enactment shots, but it just wasn’t the same. I ended up looking a little big goofy and incredulous in the re-enactments.

 
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mariavvisa
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mariavvisa (message)  313 posts, Helper bee

Ahem, a little *bit* goofy, not a little big goofy. ;) It’s been a long day…

 
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Miss Labrador
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Miss Labrador (message)  1,805 posts, Buzzing bee

Yikes! I don’t know how you’re going to do it! There’s no way I could follow that many rules (and not purposely break a few of them). My reception site said no sparklers but I got the site coordinator to allow us to have them outside!

Btw, I’m Lutheran and know Catholic ceremonies pretty well. I still remember being about 14 when my godfather was married in a Catholic church. I hated how long it was and the sitting, kneeling, standing. But I was an antsy kid with ADD…lol

 
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rosie4502

I’m getting in the Catholic church too and I have the exact same rules! I think it makes it seem a little less celebratory. We can’t even have flowers!

 
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Mrs. Bruschetta, Philadelphia Age and Occupation: 25, Communication Professional Fiance's Age and Occupation: 25, Physical Therapy Graduate Student Engagement Date: November 30, 2007 Wedding Date: August 2009 Venue: St. Thomas of Villanova Church & the F.U.E.L. House About Me: I’m a self-proclaimed grammar geek who loves singing (like, really belting it) in the car. My mister and I are planning a vibrant summer soiree celebrating our passions – including food and Philly – and when we make it official, we’ll have been together for eight years! Being super competitive is in my nature, and talking excessively is in my genes. I’ve got a terrible sense of direction, but can always easily find my way into Mr. Bruschetta’s arms.

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