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Ceremony Optional

May 19th, 2009 @ 11:49 am by Mrs. Joey

Over the weekend I had a mini blow-up at Mr. Joey over the ceremony. I was looking at readings for the wedding when he whined about how long the ceremony was going to be. This isn’t the first time he’s made these comments, and he isn’t the only one to make them. As usual, I was prepared to just bite my tongue and pretend I didn’t hear the comments. Of course, he noticed my silence and asked me what was wrong, and of course, I told him.

At first, I too was a little annoyed with the number of elements in our Catholic blessing. It seemed longer than we wanted it to be and there was little flexibility within each component, but I’ve accepted that. We decided together that we were going to get married in the church for our parents, and this was part of it. I’ve done my best to try and find readings that reflect our love for each other, and tried to add cultural elements to the ceremony. In the end, I’m OK with the fact that the ceremony is going to be 45 minutes to an hour long. This is the most important part of getting married — the part where you promise to be together forever. I don’t feel like 45 minutes is too long to devote to that.

I told Mr. Joey if he really was unhappy with the length or the blessing in general, that he could arrange for an alternate location for the ceremony and let everyone (particularly our parents) know there is change, and that I’d be fine with it. I would not continue to plan the ceremony if he was going to pout about its length or contents.

I cannot change the Catholic Church, but we can change whether that’s where we celebrate our marriage. It sounds a little Bridezillia-ish, but I couldn’t continue to plan what I saw as the most important aspect of our wedding day if he wasn’t fully on board. Pouting and complaining isn’t being fully on board.

Mr. Joey came around fast. He apologized and said he didn’t realize he was upsetting me when he complained. He also agreed that 45 minutes isn’t too long for the ceremony. He came around quickly, but others might not have. I have had more than one person complain to me about the length of our ceremony. I know Catholicism isn’t for everyone, and I’m not asking people to convert or anything, but I am asking that if they attend, they don’t complain about how bored they are or how long it was. My sister had a courthouse wedding and it took ten minutes. And that was just a courthouse wedding. I really want to tell my ceremony complainers to bite me. Just kidding. :) I was just making sure you were still with me. Seriously, I want to tell them to not come to the ceremony. I mean that in the nicest possible way. I won’t be offended if they only show up at the reception. The drive to the chapel is long, and if they think a Catholic ceremony is too much for them, then I am happy to celebrate with them later at the reception. No hurt feelings here.

Actually, that was going to be our original plan. We were going to have a tiny ceremony (immediate family only) on a Friday afternoon and then have a huge party the next day — something a little more casual. We thought about a huge BBQ (or taco truck) with friendor bands and partying all day long. Our main reason for doing an immediate family only ceremony was because of a wedding we attended a few years back.

We went to a ceremony that was pretty long. It wasn’t religious per se, but it had a lot of elements and symbolism from different religions. It was a lovely ceremony, and one of the more unique I’ve seen. But all anyone at our reception table could do was whine about its length. When it came time to discuss our ceremony, Mr. Joey and I both remembered that wedding, and opted to leave everyone else out of the ceremony. But then of course, the same people who whined about sitting through the long ceremony whined (in a friendly way) that they would really like to be present at ours. And my extended family was a little offended that we’d even think of not including them. So, we opened the ceremony up to everyone.

So now here we are again dealing with the ceremony whiners. What would you do if you were in my place? Would you tell people honestly that they don’t have to attend the ceremony? Does that seem too harsh?

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evarenee
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evarenee (message)  39 posts, Newbee

Eh they’ll survive. I’m not having a catholic ceremony but have been to quite a few in my family. It always seems like it’s going to be along time but I always end up watching and getting excited for the couple and time goes by faster.

 
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Sakoro

I think you took the right approach with Mr. Joey– suggest another solution or shut up!

I did some event planning in college where I learned some important lessons:
(a) some people are huge whiners and impossible to please so don’t take them seriously
(b) most people are way more likely to give criticism/ complaints than compliments
(c) you can’t please everybody, so plan something reasonable that the majority will enjoy and dismiss the criticism you get from the whiners

Know yourself and figure out what’s important to you and the people closest to you. Keep that vision in mind as a guideline and don’t let other people’s complaints/ criticisms sway you too much!

 
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MissAuburnTiger
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MissAuburnTiger (message)  30 posts, Newbee

Catholic ceremonys are long. And if they have a problem with it then oh well. I would just ignore them. They sound like they are going to whine no matter what… Enjoy your day and your “long” ceremony. (to me when attending a wedding ceremony short or long it should be a time of love, devotion, remembrance, and happiness) Continue forth with your ceremony planning and remember that the whole wedding is about that 1 hour. Without that 1 hour, there wouldn’t be the party afterwards. :)

 
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miss star
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miss star (message)  2,063 posts, Buzzing bee

I personally don’t enjoy Catholic ceremonies, but it’s obviously YOUR DAY.

One thing I’m quickly learning is that there is absolutely no possible way to avoid someone whining about something. It’s just not gonna happen. You do one thing to keep Aunt Ethel from whining, it’s going to make College Friend Jamie whine. I don’t know what it is about weddings, but you can’t please everyone.

Just do what feels right to you two.

 
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Miss Bruschetta (message)  5,565 posts, Bee Keeper

Honestly, one of the things I love about the Catholic ceremony — which we’re having as well — IS the length. There are so many wonderful opportunities to involve loved ones as readers, gift bearers, etc., and as long as it’s what you AND Mr. Joey really want as the way you mark the start of your marriage, I say forge ahead and hold your head high — people will always find something to complain about, but you have to do what makes you happiest!

 
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FutureMrs_S
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FutureMrs_S (message)  22 posts, Newbee

Im with you…although we are not having a catholic service (its Episcopal, half a foot int he door of Catholicism if you ask me) and we are doing a full service with communion and all. There were a few reasons for us deciding to do this, but I have made a point of telling anyone who is uncomfortable with the ceremony that they can just come to the reception. Do what you want and just enjoy your day!

 
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Miss Bear Cub
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Miss Bear Cub (message)  1,566 posts, Bumble bee

honestly, I don’t know what it is about a “long ceremony” that has people up in arms. Is it the religiousness? Is it the actual time of butt-in-seat?
I went to catholic mass every single sunday growing up. 45 min to an hour for a wedding ceremony seems normal to me.
I’d say let the ceremony be optional, if that’s what you’re ok with. Personally, I’d be hurt if the people who said they wanted to come to my wedding only showed up for the reception :(
Isn’t the ceremony what it’s ACTUALLY all about?

 
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tessabella76
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tessabella76 (message)  3,122 posts, Sugar bee

First of all, I think 45 minutes for a Catholic ceremony is pretty good! We aren’t having a religious ceremony but I was raised Catholic and know how long the weddings can be! My fiance would be happy to keep our outdoor ceremony at about 10 minutes, but I’d like to have a couple readings so we trying to work it out. He’s kind of shy and knows he’s going to be emotional so he’d like to keep the spotlight on him/us to a minimum.

Also, isn’t it funny-the most important part of the wedding is the ceremony and yet people will stay 3 or 4 hours at a reception and complain about a 45 minute ceremony. Messed up!

Glad you and Mr. Joey reached an understanding!

 
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BlushingBride530
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BlushingBride530 (message)  277 posts, Helper bee

You are right, Miss Joey - the ceremony is the true heart of the wedding. After all, without the ceremony, there would be no wedding. I do not think 45 minutes is too long for a ceremony. When whiny guests frustrate you, just remember that the ceremony is about you and Mr. Joey and your love for each other. If you start planning your wedding for anyone else other than the two of you, you won’t be happy with the results, and this is your special day!

The guests who want to come to the ceremony are the ones you want to be there. I personally think it is rude when guests opt out of the ceremony for just the reception because they just don’t want to go. If you are going to give them food and drinks, the least they can do is witness your marriage! But like you said, if they are complaining, then why would you want them there in the first place?

Keep your head up, Miss Joey - your heart is in the right place!

 
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grumpybear722
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grumpybear722 (message)  553 posts, Busy bee

I would never dream of complaining about something as meaningful and personal as a wedding ceremony. Although religion isn’t my thing and I’m not into God centered stuff I’d still go and just enjoy it. I think it’s a HONOR to be invited to a wedding ceremony - the bride & groom cherish our relationship (or had enough pressure from someone LOL) to invite me so if I RSVP yes then I’m there for EVERYTHING because I cherish that person and the honor of the invite. BUT that’s just me! :)
I think that if you are comfortable telling people that they don’t have to come to the ceremony then you should do that. Personally I don’t want to feel like I’m being used for a meal ticket (I’m overly emotional and overthinking like that! haha). I’d be offended if someone only came to the reception unless I knew they couldn’t make the ceremony for some reason that wasn’t boredom. LOL

 
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ggsb
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ggsb (message)  1,245 posts, Bumble bee

We have some whiners about our ceremony as well (even from a member of the wedding party). While it’s not the length they are worried about it’s the location. It’s outdoors, in the sun, in June, in Georgia…don’t we realize it will be hot, sunny, buggy, etc, etc, etc. I have pretty much the same attitude that we chose our location b/c it means something to us (bugs and all) and after all isn’t that the most important part of a wedding. The ceremony that unites us? I personally love the Catholic Ceremony…I think it’s quite beautiful even if I don’t necessarily understand each of the elements. You keep your head up and have the ceremony that is right for you, regardless of what others might whine :)

 
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babychick

My goodness, is it not enough that you’re treating these folks to a nice meal, drinks, and a fab rehearsal dinner? Memo to guests: sit, stand, kneel and enjoy the ceremony! You’re watching two of your loved ones get married. Sorry you can’t go through a drive-thru on this one.

 
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lovelerae
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lovelerae (message)  241 posts, Helper bee

We’re not having a Catholic ceremony, but we are serving communion to all our guests during our ceremony. Many members of my family have complained about how long this will make the ceremony, but we’ve simply explained that it’s our wedding and our decsion. That hasn’t stopped their comments though. . . good luck!

 
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April

I don’t think 45 min is long for a Catholic wedding at all! Most of the weddings I’ve been to lately are about that long. My next one to attend will be an hour and a half. That might be a little long for me but that’s what the bride wants!
Tell them it could be worse!

 
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Grace

I have been experiencing the exact same thing. My fiance has made little remarks about how we just need to “get the ceremony over with” so the fun can begin at the reception. A Catholic ceremony IS a wedding to me, I couldn’t imagine not doing it this way. And beyond any spiritual meaning to me, I am thrilled to have the same ceremony our parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, and on and on had for their weddings.

Many friends, including bridal party members, have complained about how long a full mass is. My instinct also is to say “if you have a problem with it, you don’t need to come,” but I worry about it coming off too Bridezilla and that it might not get the point across that their comments are insulting.

My feeling is that friends and family don’t mean to be rude. Everyone just has a different opinion of what a wedding should be, and of course most of them come looking forward to the party. Feel confident that you are doing what means the most to you, and try to ignore all the rest.

 
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Miss Ribbons (message)  2,018 posts, Buzzing bee

I think you’re absolutely lucky to have a longer ceremony. My friends who’ve gotten married say that the ceremony went by so quickly, and I agree — 15 minutes seems hardly long enough for such a meaningful (and really the most important) part of the day.

So I say embrace it.

 
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chelseamorning
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chelseamorning (message)  2,252 posts, Buzzing bee

We had a long Catholic ceremony too and I loved and savored every moment of it. Personally I can’t imagine having planned for the big day and having the most important part be over in 10 minutes! If it could have gone on all day I would have been happy.
We didn’t get any complainers, but the people complaining to you probably don’t mean to be rude. My advice is to not let your anger and frustration get the best of you. Probably a noncomittal response is best—they aren’t realistically not going to come to your ceremony, are they? I would just try to change the subject–mention how fun the party will be afterward or something.

 
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LittleScarfGirl

I think that the Mass is a very important part of the whole wedding ceremony. I agree with the others who mentioned how there are many opportunities to include other family members and friends by doing readings and such.

I get the feeling you’re not too religious, but in the Catholic church, marraige is a sacrament. I think you’ll really enjoy the Mass, and how meaningful it can be as the start to your marraige. If your guests can’t respect that, then that’s their problem! ;)

 
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Sparkles
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Sparkles (message)  706 posts, Busy bee

I am so amused that you told him to find an alternative venue and to break the news to your parents. It’s like he then realized how much of an undertaking planning the ceremony aspect is, period.
although the catholic ceremony can be quite lengthy, it has a lot of symbolism and meaning. So to those who complain- I really wish they would focus on something else besides the length and time and try to see the important aspects incorporated as best they can!

 
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miss_norris (message)  82 posts, Worker bee

45 mins sounds normal to short to me :) As a good catholic (ok when I was a kid anyways) that’s just normal mass. And frankly people can’t give you 45 mins of quiet to celebrate your 45 years (or more) of commitment? Tell them to bite you ;)

 
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Mrs. Joey, Seattle Age and Occupation: 28, Project Administrator for Public Health NGO Fiance's Age and Occupation: 30, High School History Teacher Engagement Date: June 24, 2008 Wedding Date: August 2009 Venue: Eastside Catholic Chapel and Lake Union Cafe About Me: I'm a Seattle girl through and through except for the fact that I don't drink coffee. I love my job most of the time because I get to travel and work with brilliant people who are trying to prevent Malaria. I love DIY projects of all sorts, cooking, and watching sports. I'd wear anything at Anthropologie and could spend all day on Etsy. I love to travel but shouldn't because I always get myself into unbelievable situations!

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