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Mrs. Duckling, San Diego Age and Occupation: 23, Psychology Grad Student, Youth Diversion Specialist/Marriage and Family Therapy Trainee and an Executive Assistant Fiance's Age and Occupation: 25, Marketing and PR Coordinator Engagement Date: May 17, 2008 Wedding Date: September 2009 Venue: Rancho Bernardo Inn About Me: I'm currently living in Orange County, but planning our wedding in my hometown of San Diego. We are a DIY wedding "2fer", as I'm the crafty one and Mr. Ducky is in charge of all of our graphic design and technical aspects. When not wedding planning or reading wedding blogs, I'm attending grad school and rotating between two different jobs to keep things exciting. My favorite things include shoes, Post-Its, Labrador Retrievers, traveling, psychology, delicious food, photography, reading, craft gadgets/supplies, and of course, my wonderful Mr. Ducky!
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The Seven Principles of a Highly Effective Marriage
By: John Gottman

Part I

I really loved reading all of your responses and comments on the book so far. There were so many sweet stories from early in your relationships that are so fun to read now. I’m seriously jealous that Bear Cub has stayed in a tree house cabin, and just smiled reading all the romantic stories from the moment you just knew your SO was the one.

Continuing on with the book club, here is the next recap of the next few chapters in the book.

Chapter 5: Principle 3: Turn Toward Each Other Instead of Away

This principle is basically about those little moments, subtle acts, and quick exchanges that show so much love and affection. These small moments are part of what Gottman says a happy marriage is made of because the couple is turning towards each other and are connecting. In an unhappy marriage, these moments and exchanges are rare.

Hollywood has dramatically distorted our notions of romance and what makes passion burn. Watching Humphrey Bogart gather teary-eyed Ingrid Bergman into his arms may make your heart pound, but real-life romance is fueled by a far more humdrum approach to staying connected. It is kept alive each time you let your spouse know he or she is valued during the grind of everyday life.

There are many moments where you can choose to turn toward each other or away. These moments add up to create an “emotional bank account” that can serve as a cushion or support when times get rough, you are dealing with conflict and stress, or are feeling distant. It helps to “maintain a positive sense of each other and [your] marriage even during hard times.”

Chapter 6: Principle 4: Let Your Partner Influence You

Writing this chapter Gottman pointed a lot of the discussion towards men, not to say that women don’t have the same issue, but he sees that it is commonly harder for men to be influenced by their partner than the other way around. Statistically speaking, men who allow their wives to influence them have happier marriages and are less likely to divorce. What does “influence” mean? It doesn’t mean you let the other person rule your life, but there is respect, power sharing and making decisions together.

When you do not allow influence, that is when there is room for the four horsemen to come in. Instead of acknowledging and respecting feelings, there is a drowning out, or “obliterating her point of view”, which is the opposite of this principle.

Some people will argue that this principle conflicts with their spiritual values or religious beliefs because men are supposed to be in control of their marriage, and also their wives. However, this is not the case. “All spiritual views of life are consistent with loving and honoring your spouse.” Would you want to make a decision where the other person feels disrespected? Probably not; that is why it is important to talk and learn how to convey honor and respect. Influence does not mean control.

Accepting influence is a skill in addition to being an attitude. If despite plenty of effort there is still difficulty accepting influence, then perhaps at the root of it there is an unsolvable problem. In marriage there are unsolvable and solvable problems. That is okay. Let’s look at this more in the next chapter.

Chapter 7: The Two Kinds of Marital Conflict

All marital conflicts fall into 1 of 2 categories: Either the problem can be resolved (solvable), or it is perpetual (unsolvable).

Perpetual Problems
69% of all marital conflict falls in this category! This means that those issues you are arguing about now will likely be the same issues 15 years from now. However, “despite what many therapist tell you, you don’t have to resolve your major marital conflicts for your marriage to thrive”. While you may never love dealing and arguing with these problems, you will develop skills to cope with them and learn to avoid situations that can help you deal. Dan Wile said, “When choosing a long-term partner… you will inevitably be choosing a particular set of unsolvable problems that you’ll be grappling with for the next ten, twenty or fifty years.”

In unstable marriages, these perpetual problems will be what ends the marriage because there is continually “gridlock”.

Signs of Gridlock:

  • The conflict makes you feel rejected by your partner.
  • You keep talking about it but make no headway.
  • You become entrenched in your positions and are unwilling to budge.
  • When you discuss the subject, you end up feeling more frustrated and hurt.
  • Your conversations about the problem are devoid of humor, amusement, or affection.
  • You become even more unbudgeable over time, which leads you to vilify each other during these conversations.
  • This vilification makes you all the more rooted in your position and polarized, more extreme in your view, and all the less willing compromise.
  • Eventually you disengage from each other emotionally.

In the next post, we will talk about Principle 6, which addresses how to deal with gridlock.

Solvable Problems

While solvable problems may sound more simple, they still have the potential of causing lots of pain and conflict in a relationship. When the problem is causing this much pain, it means the couple has not mastered a technique to solve it. Principle 5 will talk about how to handle this problem directly, and that will be a part of the next post as well.

How do you recognize a solvable problem, though? The first way to recognize one is that a solvable problem is less gut-wrenching, intense, and painful than a perpetual problem in gridlock. There is no underlying conflict for the problem, so the focus is on a particular situation or dilemma.

My thoughts and reflections:

I think Gottman’s point of the difference between Hollywood romance and what romance truly consists of, is such an important idea. I definitely have fallen guilty to wanting those ’sweep you off your feet’ moments that I love to watch in chick flicks. I don’t know about others, but that is not how Mr. Ducky’s and my relationship works. We don’t get all dressed up and fly away in a helicopter over a beautiful sunset to see the newest opera (a la Pretty Woman), and we definitely didn’t have a romantic candlelit dinner following a whirlwind romance where we fell in love within days, despite the craziest circumstances. What do we have? Well, we like to cook together, we tend to giggle and laugh about things that make no sense to anyone else, we are super excited to watch 24 and LOST together every week (so sad it is over), and the closest we get to a classic fairytale romance is when we go to Disneyland with our passes and walk under the castle to get to Splash Mountain. Romance for us is in the small gestures, like when Mr. Ducky gave me a card at 11:00PM at night after I finished my last graduate course, just to say he was proud, or when I leave a Post-It on Mr. Ducky’s computer, just to say I love him. And of course, I wouldn’t say no to a helicopter ride to go see an opera, but I know that those things are not what make us a couple. There is a greater foundation that we have been building upon for a long time.

Mr. Ducky and I turn toward each other, but I think I can be more conscious of doing it more often. In the conference I went to, Gottman spoke about “sliding door moments”. Have you seen the movie Sliding Doors with Gwenyth Paltrow? Basically, it shows the two different outcomes of her life had she made a train and then had she missed the train. While things may not be as dramatically different as in the movie, there is still a different outcome for everything based on whether or not you decide to turn toward your spouse. For instance, you are on your way out with girlfriends and you notice your partner seems kind of down and tired. Do you stop and have a conversation to see what is wrong? Or do you figure that you will talk about it after you get home, since you are already running late? First, neither choice is wrong. However, if you continuously choose the latter option and don’t turn toward your spouse to engage, you may miss out on some relationship building.

I think that I could be more conscious in looking for more opportunities to turn toward Mr. Ducky. What else can I do for him that will be an act of love, even if it is a brief moment and doesn’t take time? Maybe it’s as simple as sending a text message of encouragement when I know he’s had a long day at work.

I was really surprised to read the statistic that 69% of marital problems are unsolvable. However, I thought it was a good idea to reflect on our relationship and distinguish between the solvable and unsolvable problems so that we can better deal with them.

What stands out to you from these chapters? Can you relate?

Also, head over the book club boards and start some of your own threads with questions or thoughts, or simply join the discussion on preexisting threads.

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4 Responses to “Weddingbee Book Club: The Seven Principles, Part II”

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Mr. Bee
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Mr. Bee (message)  1,573 posts, Bumble bee

I’ve been learning a lot from your recap of the book! Haha, so it’s up to men to let their partners “influence” them? That sounds about right…

Gridlock sounds interesting… I encounter that at work sometimes. Looking forward to Principle 6!

 
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Firefighter_Prazs_Girl
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Firefighter_Prazs_Girl (message)  819 posts, Busy bee

I didn’t read this book but I have been following your post. I need to really read this book and get Mr. FF to read it also.

It was sort of depressing to hear that what we “fight” about now is what we will fight over in the future. Even though we never fight over anything important this is what is crazy it is the small silly stuff we can’t remember. Ugh, Mr. FF says we do this because we don’t have anything else to fight over.

Mr. FF and I are very geared to small gestures. Mr. FF will take a bar of soap and write a love note on the bathroom mirror for me to find, or spell I love you on a paper towel in pepper on the kitchen counter. We do all these little things daily for each other. I pray that it continues.

I think we really need to work in the solvable problem area but I think this will come with time and learning about each other better.

Thanks for all the post! They are great!

 
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bellenga
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bellenga (message)  4,662 posts, Honey bee

I just finished a similar book “His Needs/Her Needs” by Dr. Harley. It has similar topics and I think it’s important to take note of the fact that real life is NOT to be confused w/fantasy.

In fact, I think that the main reasons marriages break up (I can speak on this issue) is a breakdown of expectations with regard to reality.

What I love about the book I just finished is this..there is something called a “love bank” and you need to make active deposits in it if you want romantic love to continue and the marriage weather the storms of life. Not make the deposits, makes it go into the red..just like your bank account.

Love IS work and you have to make a firm committment to the relationship and its health as you make a committment to each other. It can’t be done one sided with only one partner doing the work. It has to be both, seeing the importance and realizing if you two want to be together for that fortieth, or fiftieth anniversary, or like my grandparents celebrating their SEVENTIETH soon, love is about work, compromise and maybe a teeny touch of fantasy woven into all the reality.

 
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LatteLove
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LatteLove (message)  4,120 posts, Honey bee

Great thoughts! I love hearing about your stories as well as your thought about the book.

A couple comments:
I think learning to turn toward eachother especially for little things, builds a good foundation. I’ve seen a similar type of grief draw a couple together, and completely tear another couple apart. The key is to work together, turn to eachother and stay connected even when you react differently to a situation and feel like you can’t relate (hello! two different people!) :-)

The 69% of marital probelms being unsolvable seems a little bit daunting, and i don’t quite agree with it. First, I take an approach to marriage that is called biblical complementarianism….but that is a conversation I’m not sure I want to get started on WB! it makes means the two are equal, but with different roles.
Second, I think that part of marital compromise involves allowing those “unsolvable problems’ to not be problems. If it is a habit or a way of doing things or making decisions.
To me learning to “cope” and “deal with it” is solving the problem enough for me! If it cease to bother you (even if you make a conscious effort towards it) then it ceases to be a problem/conflict.

 


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