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Mrs. Cub, Chile/Portland Age and Occupation: 26, Astronomer Fiance's Age and Occupation: 28, Astronomer Engagement Date: May 10, 2008 Wedding Date: September 2009 Venue: Westwind YWCA camp About Me: I'm a small-town girl who's making a living in Chile, with her heart in the Pacific Northwest. I grew up in Southern California, went to high school in Texas, grad school in New Mexico, and now I can't wait to settle down in Oregon! I love pears, hazelnuts, knitting, traveling, running, baking, and long talks on the phone with good friends. I'm planning my Oregon coast summer camp wedding while abroad with my best friend - I'm always at home when I'm with him!
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Rye Bread with Margarine

May 26th, 2009 @ 5:36 pm by Mrs. Bear Cub

Before we got engaged, before we even had “the talk“, we talked one evening about how we didn’t want a priest to marry us. Mr. Bear Cub and I are not religious, and this tends to confuse a lot of people (especially my family). Luckily, those that don’t agree with our beliefs at least respect our right to live our lives the way we want to, and believe what we want. Mr. Bear Cub and I are both humanist.

Rye Bread with Margarine :  wedding officiant religion Happy H  Happy Human, the Humanist logo

I say that we have differing “beliefs” than those who follow religious sects because normally those who are religious believe that atheists don’t believe in anything.

“Atheist” is a word with negative connotations - “humanist” as a label is growing wildly in popularity among the god-less. Humanists “affirm the dignity and worth of all people, based on the ability to determine right and wrong by appealing to universal human qualities, particularly rationality, without resorting to the supernatural or alleged divine authority from religious text” (from wiki). There are also humanist “churches” (more like group philosophical sessions, science talks, young family outings, etc.) sprouting across the nation. When Mr. Cubbie and I move back to the states to Portland, Oregon, we can’t wait to join our own local Humanist Association!

Months before we got engaged, we researched ways to get married the “humanist” way. A priest doesn’t marry you, a celebrant does.

Quick fact: Did you know that a marriage is not considered legally recognized if performed by a celebrant? Unless you get married in a courthouse (by a judge), or pay a nondescript justice of the peace (or a notary clerk also, right?) to sign your marriage document, you must be married by a religious official. Otherwise, it’s not legal! That’s like telling a Catholic couple they must marry in a church, or it won’t be recognized by the church. At least they can have someone who follows their faith marry them.

It is, however, legal to be married by an officiant in Scotland, and also now, Poland.

This post isn’t meant to convert anyone or to shock anyone or to talk down about anyone else’s religious beliefs and ideals. Mr. Bear Cub and I are for gay marriage, and we are for marriage equality in all senses of the word. If you’re interested in learning about a humanist ceremony, or you yourself are planning one, I’d love to bounce ideas back and forth! There’s not a lot of talk about humanist wedding ceremonies in the states, especially on most wedding sites, but I think the idea of a “secular” wedding is growing. And if you’re not yet praying for my salvation (because please don’t!), take a look at this post on humanist weddings on the Friendly Atheist.

There are more and more certified officiants in the states, one of whose blogs I read - Weddingbee PRO’s own Eclectic Unions. She’s an active celebrant on the East Coast, and recently posted this video about Humanist weddings and what a Celebrant is:

While Mr. Cubbie and I plan to make our wedding ceremony based on humanist ideals, we have decided to not have a celebrant officiate. Why, you ask? Especially after all that jazz up there?? Well, simply put, we want our officiant to be someone with whom we have an active relationship. This is just a personal choice, though. Plus, we want to have 100% control of what’s said during our ceremony.

Meet Margarine, Mr. Bear Cub’s grandma. Her nickname for Mr. Cubbie is “rye bread”, because… we Bear Cubs love us some hearty bread! ;) Would you like some Margarine on your Rye Bread? ;) Margarine was a professor of theatre at Cornell and She. Is. Awesome. I can’t even begin to describe how awesome she is. Well, let’s try, but in her own words - her email to us after we gave her all the info on being our officiant…

Mr. Bear Cub and I sent her:

“Margarine!

As our bodacious wedding is quickly approaching, Its probably time for you to discover your holier side and become a minister!

Good.

The easiest path to enlightenment is through the Universal life church at http://www.themonastery.org/ ……..”

To which she replied:

“To The Redoubtable Rye Breads (aka future Mr. & Mrs. Bear Cub),
My main questions are: Why was I born? What is the meaning of life? And has Miss Bear Cub taught any of the natives to say “Lift the lid a little, it”ll open” in Spanish?”

(Side note - our friend Sean taught us his favorite tongue-twister: “jiggle it a little it’ll open”. Upon hearing it, Margarine couldn’t stop saying it! It’s such a wonderful conglomeration of syllables! :) Go on! Try it! :) )

Basically, she’s incredibly random and butt-loads of fun! We know that Margarine will fill the role of officiant perfectly, because while we’re not religious, Margarine is the person who best fits the role of “minister” - a person to look to for guidance and wisdom.

How did you choose your officiant?

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Miss Snowflake
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Miss Snowflake (message)  597 posts, Busy bee

We are having his uncle, who is an ordained minister, marry us. But we are having a subtely Pagan ceremony… it’s a ceremony called the “Blessing of the Hands” ceremony, and our MOH and best man are the ones who actually read us our vows. It’s going to be so awesome!

 
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quirkyparsnip
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quirkyparsnip (message)  385 posts, Helper bee

Cool, I myself also am non-religious and it conflicts with a lot of wedding traditions. The officiant is a very scary task for me in the future. I’m still waiting for the ring though. I’m happy that you have someone awesome to take on the task.

 
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Miss D'orsay (message)  2,272 posts, Buzzing bee

Mr.D and I have just been saying “jiggle it a little it’ll open” for about 3 minutes now! tee hee hee

 
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miss mouse (message)  5,844 posts, Bee Keeper

I am so glad you are posting about this! My FI and I are atheists, and though I do not know much about humanism, we do share similar beliefs about the dignity and worth of all people, etc. We’re having a minister from the Universal Church of Life marry us in a secular ceremony. Our minister does both religious and secular ceremonies, and she is totally open-minded about what we want for our ceremony, including a not-so-subtle shout out to all the men and women out there who can’t, as of yet, marry the ones they love. I’m excited it’s becoming more acceptable to have a secular wedding in the states!

 
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liv

I’m not sure if you were referring just to your state, but not all states require that a celebrant perform your ceremony. in colorado you can marry yourselves, and that’s what we did.

 
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quirkyparsnip
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quirkyparsnip (message)  385 posts, Helper bee

Okay so I just read some of the wikipedia page and I am so excited by it. It sums up so much of what I have expressed and my views and I’m really glad you wrote this post.

 
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Miss Spaniel (message)  6,792 posts, Bee Keeper

She sounds like the *ideal* officiant. :)

 
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Miss Snapdragon (message)  717 posts, Busy bee

She sounds great! And now I want some rye bread with margarine. Yum.

 
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spraguebride
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spraguebride (message)  1,253 posts, Bumble bee

I can’t tell you how happy to read this post. I am also an athiest and I often feel so alone in this wedding blog world. It is so refreshing to have a humanist couple to follow. We are getting married in a Unitarian Church and choose an officant who will let us control everything that is said.
Thanks for posting about this and opening yourself up. It is really nice for other brides to see someone like themselves out there. :-)

 
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tessabella76 (message)  3,122 posts, Sugar bee

Interesting post. I love hearing about different religions and non religions (so to speak). While my fiance and I are semi-religious (is that even possible?), he’s Protestant and I’m Catholic, we don’t entirely agree with certain aspects of either religion. We’ve gone to his parents church and we plan on going to a local Catholic church soon.

But we are getting married outdoors because a) I’ve always wanted to get married outdoors and b) we’ve yet to find a church that feels comfortable for us. So we are trying to figure who can marry us. And we don’t want a minster or a priest to marry us because we aren’t totally sure where we stand and are in the process of trying to figure it out (plus finding a minister or priest to marry us without belonging to a church would be difficult). We’re still working on it.

 
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LibraryBride (message)  19 posts, Newbee

While we didn’t have a humanist ceremony, our ceremony was completely written by us and totally secular. We had a nondenominational minister who was totally open to our writing everything ourselves and including no religion, no soulmates and no Bible in our ceremony. It’s great that there are growing resouces for this kind of thing - it’s a great way to celebrate. It was also totally unique - many of our guests said that they thought our ceremony was the most personal one they had been to and was “totally us”! Enjoy!

 
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amysue

We’re both humanists, too! We’re being married outside by somebody (a “reverend,” albeit from a very vague and open church) who allowed us to totally customize our ceremony, word-for-word. Love this post!

 
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Andrea

I don’t understand your Catholic comment. A Catholic couple does have to be married in the church or else it isn’t recognized. That is true. So maybe I just missed something here in your post.

 
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laurajane
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laurajane (message)  317 posts, Helper bee

I believe “jiggle it a little it’ll open” is my new favourite thing to say. Might even be a forte of mine ;)

 
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mvp_bride
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mvp_bride (message)  188 posts, Blushing bee

Thank you for introducing me to something new for my blog reader! Friendly Atheist looks interesting.

My fiance and I aren’t religious, but my father and grandfather are ministers and will be doing the ceremony. I would probably have a lot harder time with a traditional religious ceremony without the family connections.

 
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e

someone else semi-mentioned this, but fyi for anyone out there interested–there are states where you can legally be married by a celebrant.

 
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jenn

Andrea’s right, Catholics do have to be married in a church for it to be recognized. There are also several other conditions.

Cool ideas though!

 
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LaToya

I always wondered what Humanism was all about, thanks for this. My FI would love to read this it sounds like what he believes–I call myself spiritual–which is a nice way of saying i believe in the possibility of a higher power/gods/goddesses–all of it and I’m anti-religion for myself.

We are having a friend marry us. He’s been ordained online but NY is kind of strict with this so just in case we’re making it legal at the court the day before the wedding.

 
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Miss Ribbons (message)  2,018 posts, Buzzing bee

This may make you giggle since you’re a real astronomer and I just took 2 introductory level astronomy courses in college: after getting out of a lecture about the different theorized ways the universe would..end, I had one of those gorgeous existential moments and knew religion wasn’t quite there for me, with no offense meant to others.

We’re also trying to inject some of our “spirituality” into the the ceremony without being all king lear about it. Definitely excited to find out more about your ceremony ideas.

 
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BostonBride

I just asked the minister from back when I used to attend a Unitarian Universalist congregation to officiate for us, and I highly recommend the UU route for anyone who wants an officiant who is experienced in leading ceremonies but will be very open-minded about traditions and language, especially non-theist/humanist/etcetera. (You don’t even have to be a UU to be married by a UU minister - I’m now a “lapsed UU”, if that’s possible!)

P.S. I get all my blogs through Google Reader, including my recipes, and I totally thought this post was a recipe for rye bread with margarine and thought to myself “wow, do people really need instructions for that?!” :-D

 
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Mrs. Cub, Chile/Portland Age and Occupation: 26, Astronomer Fiance's Age and Occupation: 28, Astronomer Engagement Date: May 10, 2008 Wedding Date: September 2009 Venue: Westwind YWCA camp About Me: I'm a small-town girl who's making a living in Chile, with her heart in the Pacific Northwest. I grew up in Southern California, went to high school in Texas, grad school in New Mexico, and now I can't wait to settle down in Oregon! I love pears, hazelnuts, knitting, traveling, running, baking, and long talks on the phone with good friends. I'm planning my Oregon coast summer camp wedding while abroad with my best friend - I'm always at home when I'm with him!

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