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Mrs. Penguin, Northern California Age and Occupation: 27, Weddingbee Editor in Chief Fiance's Age and Occupation: 30, Doctor of Physical Therapy Engagement Date: January 29, 2007 Wedding Date: June 7, 2008 Blogging Since: September 14, 2007 Venue: Winery in the Gold Country About Me: I love the Spice Girls, dogs with underbites, bean burritos, making messes, high fives, avoiding showers, crossword puzzles, blogs, weddings, and blogs about weddings!
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DOC-less and Regretful

July 6th, 2009 @ 4:49 pm by Mrs. Penguin

Despite almost every bee before me advising that their day of coordinator was one of the best investments they made in their weddings, I just refused to listen. I considered myself a laid-back bride. I definitely thought that if things went wrong during our wedding day, I would just be able to roll with the punches. This is NOT what having a DOC is about. Anal or not, someone will have to take on this task on your wedding day, whether you pay them or not, especially if you’re a DIY bride. This is my experience, and I hope that if you’re on the fence as to whether or not to hire a DOC, this helps you make your decision!

Our wedding was very DIY in almost every aspect. Our florist was not on-site, our friend was our DJ, and other than the cake and groom’s cake bakers delivering our cakes, the only real vendors on site were people associated with our reception venue. With so few vendors on site at our wedding, someone had to take the reins and make sure everything was in place… and that person was NOT me. Don’t delude yourself (like I did) into thinking that you can swing by the ceremony site in the morning and run around and set everything up as a DIY bride. It’s unrealistic, and really, it takes away from the experience of your day, I think. At crunch time you should be spending time with your closest friends and family, primping and preening!

I was pretty selfish when it came to planning out the setup of our wedding day. There were so many people that told us that they were available to help set up the wedding, that I was just oddly confident we could all just throw something together at the last minute. After all the sweat I put into all those DIY projects, I thought, ‘we’ll just throw it all out there.’ I have no idea why. Finally, during the week of the wedding, I realized that it was unrealistic to send out a massive gang of my family members out to the site (most non-English speaking) and have them just throw it all together. They really had no idea what I had been planning all along, and describing it to a gaggle of Thai relatives just didn’t seem like the right thing to do. So, I realized I had to put someone in charge; someone who already had a real idea of what I’d envisioned.

I LUCKED OUT tremendously on this front. Obviously I’d been blogging my whole wedding process, and my friend Jenny Louwheeeeeeeeeze had been following along, as she’d been planning her own gorgeous wedding to take place a few months after mine. I put together a quick Google document (viewable here) and begged of her assistance setting the reception up. She happily obliged (and had no idea what she was getting herself into).

I took several steps in order to help ease her process:

  • I created the directions document (above)
  • At Mrs. Lemon’s suggestion, I packed each table’s contents up in 19 individual boxes (one per table) so each box could be plopped on each table, unpacked, and everything that I’d provided for each table would be available. Each box was marked clearly with the table number, and who was to be seated at that table, so contents could be double checked.
  • I spent a late night the night before the wedding (after the RD) at Jenny’s house recreating the centerpieces with her so she knew exactly how it was all to work.

The individual table boxes were genius—and I don’t have any pictures of them in action, but we use them for storage now, so here’s what they look like today:

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Each labeled box included a table number and stand, the centerpiece glass, 6 votive holders and candles, and 6 favors, and had them delivered to the reception site the day before the wedding.

I showed up early to the site—although by then I had my hair, makeup, and dress on, and couldn’t really help. I unrealistically thought I’d show up to the site in work clothes to help set up, but it just didn’t work out.

On the day of, our friends and family (officiant, my dad and a couple uncles, Jenny, our DJ) showed up to set up. None of them were professionals, but I was confident that whatever happened, I’d be happy with it. And they did a fantastic job. There were small hitches, but none big enough to revisit nor dwell upon. To me, it was perfect. But to our “friendors”, it was a different story, and being good friends, they hid it from me, but the truth came out once it was all said and done, and I was really upset about it.

The site coordinator (included with our venue) was extremely rude to my friends and family. I don’t know if she thought that our friends and family were actual professionals, and therefore she felt that she could treat them like “workers”, or what, but I heard from several people that she was yelling at them and treating them really poorly. At the last minute, I emailed our DJ friend, Chris, a playlist of ceremony music, and for whatever reason, he didn’t get it. No worries, he thought… he would just talk to us (by now it was an hour before the ceremony) and ask us if we had any ideas for alternative music. The site coordinator had other ideas. For some reason, she said, under no circumstances, was he allowed to talk to us. I guess this was a communication error on my part, but I never expressed to the site coordinator that these were my friends, not wedding professionals, and I was absolutely available at any time for them to chat with us about logistics. By that time, we were just hanging out, waiting for the ceremony to start, in a room off to the side. We weren’t doing ANYTHING and frankly, I didn’t give a crap if our guests saw me before the ceremony. If someone needed help, I wanted to be there. But the site coordinator acted as a barrier to my friends and family. I had no idea because I was behind closed doors. Chris ended up in a panic, being yelled at by the site coordinator, and was forced to play a 20 second loop of the non-instrumental version of our ceremony music. It sounded awful, and had he been able to run in and ask us what we wanted, we could have easily told him that he was free to just play the full vocal version of the song that he happened to have on hand. After all, it was my fault for emailing him the set list so late… but instead, he was being punished. Jenny reluctantly reported (she didn’t tell me, but her sister told me) that she was also treated the same… and that the reception was much more work than we both thought it’d be to set up.

I was devastated. This was not how I wanted a good portion of my closest friends and family to remember our wedding day… being barked and yelled at by some inexperienced site coordinator. Honestly, if they’d all been professionals, and the site coordinator treated them poorly, I would have probably felt a little bad, but not that bad. After all, it wasn’t my fault that the lady was less-than-cordial. But because these were our closest friends, doing us tremendous favors on our wedding day, I was crushed.

I think what I learned was that if you have your friends and family setting up your wedding, let EVERYONE know that you’re available to talk, chat, and answer questions, at any given moment during the setup process. If this isn’t something you’re willing to do, and you want to be unavailable to “help” on your wedding day, then a DOC is definitely for you. It was my fault for failing to alert the site coordinator of the fact that I was happy to be available to work logistics, even though this wasn’t something I even thought to tell her before the wedding. I understand her reasoning—she felt it was her job to make sure that my day was stress-free, and didn’t want “vendors” bugging me with pesky questions, and in a way, she did a great job. I had no idea that all this was going on. But, in the end, not just hiring someone to be our DOC was something I’ll always regret. I feel horrible that our friends were yelled and snapped at on our wedding day. Plus, we were a bit in over our heads with setup. I was convinced that having Jenny on site 3 hours or so before the ceremony was supposed to begin would be enough time for her to set up the tables. What did I know? This is something that a good DOC would know—and she/he would have probably realized that this was not enough time. Everything got done, but not without a lot of panic on Jenny’s end.

If you do have a lot of vendors on site on the day of your wedding, there is a chance you could get away without a DOC. With an experienced person handling each of their duties: flower set-up, rental set-up, catering manager, DJ, etc., it may be possible that everything will run smoothly. AT LEAST you should designate a friend, not directly involved in your day (perhaps an attendant or a close friend that has been enthusiastic about your wedding plans but isn’t a bridesmaid) and give all your vendors that friend’s cell phone number. Ideally, she’d be on site at your reception site a few hours before the wedding, overseeing things, and would have a clear idea of YOUR vision for the decor and feel of your wedding.

So, here I am, another married bee, suggesting that if you DIY your wedding, that you hire a DOC.

What say you? Have you decided to hire a DOC? If you’re a married DIY bride that chose not to have a DOC, how’d your wedding day go?

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53 Responses to “DOC-less and Regretful”

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Miss Star
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Miss Star (message)  2,057 posts, Buzzing bee

What a cool post. I love the Google Document that you created. It’s something like what I want to give my DOC.

 
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Gilneas
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Gilneas (message)  1,393 posts, Bumble bee

This is something I’ve been thinking about a lot lately… we chose our venue partly because we really liked the venue contact, who would be there and coordinating stuff on the day of our wedding. But I’m a wee bit of a control freak, and think a DoC would help to alleviate some stress, and I had a friend who is starting her own DoC business offer to do it for $300… but I don’t know if that would be stepping on the catering manager’s toes, or a worthwhile investment - will there be enough for her to do?

We’re heading to our venue in about two weeks to talk details, so this is something I’ll definitely ask and see how involved the venue contact is on the day of the wedding - I’ve been to so many weddings lately where the venue contact / maitre’d has been AWFUL (one even walked down the aisle right before the bride, scattering the petals he forgot to put out before the ceremony), and it’s gotten me very worried!

 
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Miss Bruschetta (message)  5,565 posts, Bee Keeper

Argh. I’m STILL on the fence about the DOC decision, and waiting to hear from my caterer if his staff will be able to handle some of the setup. Our florist’s going to take care of her part, obviously, but I really don’t want to be worrying at all about such small details. Any tips on getting a DOC to drop his/her price since we’d be booking so close to our date?

 
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Rubrowneyes

I was the maid of honor at my sister’s wedding on Saturday. She did not have a doc, and I had not planned to. However, this morning I emailed one immediately after I woke up. Why? My sister’s wedding was lovely, homegrown, and family oriented, and even THIS wedding would have gone a lot more smoothly with a doc. I was running around so much, taking care of so many details, I didn’t have makeup on until 5 minutes before the wedding was scheduled to start. My fiance even said I was so stressed, he did not want to even see me the week prior to our wedding!! My sister was very laid back and did not seem concerned (our goal), but it definitely made for some extremely stressed out family members pulling their hair out all day.

 
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Mrs. Yorkie (message)  1,291 posts, Bumble bee

We DIYed a lot of our wedding and, like you, went DOC-less. Mama Yorkie took it upon herself to direct the setup, and while it turned out absolutely beautifully, I think hiring a DOC definitely would have eliminated a lot of stress. Poor Mama Y didn’t have time to get her nails done and had forgotten her earrings and shoes at the house, requiring an extra trip home. I definitely hear ya, Pengy!

 
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vintage2010
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vintage2010 (message)  2,257 posts, Buzzing bee

My SIL who got married in April hired a DOC and she was wasteless. My family still ended up doing all the work and coordinating. I took the time to label the boxes similiar to who you did. But they lady was only concerned with telling us when it was time to walk down the asile. She never went around and made sure the flowers, center pieces, cakes etc. we even on the tables! Needless to say, if you do hire a DOC make sure that your contract specifies that they will make sure all decorations, hired vendors, etc are in place prior to the wedding according to your instructions. I am not going to hire a DOC because my aunt is the florist and she’ll oversee that and then my other aunt is a former DOC so I’ll ask her to oversee the finer details of the day.

 
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Miss Burgundy
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Miss Burgundy (message)  1,426 posts, Bumble bee

Peng….it sounds like you have a lot of wedding regret! I hope you still look back on it as a happy day…

 
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MDaggs678

I took Mrs. Lemon’s advice as well and put each table’s contents in a bag. It made it SO easy for friends and family helping to set up the reception room. I didn’t have a DOC but I did have a great site coordinator, DJ and photographer that kept things moving. And my amazing friends and family pitched in to help set up the reception room. I was hesitant to ask them since I didn’t want them working on my wedding day but they were more than happy to help. My bridesmaids told me they got everything set up in 15 minutes, thanks to my very organized instructions!!

I think having a DOC is a good idea though. I didn’t feel like I needed one but it is nice to be organized on your wedding day and not feel like you are overwhelmed with the happenings of the day. You should be able to just relax and leave the set up to professionals.

 
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Mrs. Cookie (message)  795 posts, Busy bee

Thank you, thank you for this post, Pengy! I feel the exact same way! I really, really wish we would have just bit the bullet and hired a professional DOC. A family friend offered to be our DOC, plus our family and friends helped with the setup. Although they did a fantastic job, I feel like they missed out on our day. Also, some details were not set-up on time for our photographers to capture. Not the end of the world, but my biggest wedding regret.

 
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Mrs. Penguin
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Mrs. Penguin (message)  3,499 posts, Sugar bee

@Miss Burgundy: Our day was wonderful! Very sad about how our family was treated, though. :( I carry a lot of guilt (I don’t like to take favors from people, because I feel indebted to them… inherited this trait from my dad!), so asking my friends and family to help out like that, and in turn them being treated poorly, has def. hung over my head. As for our wedding day, it was fantastic!

 
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Mrs. Penguin
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Mrs. Penguin (message)  3,499 posts, Sugar bee

@Gilneas: Doesn’t hurt to ask your catering manager clearly what he expects his job to be on the day of your wedding. If you think he’d feel like his toes were stepped on, ask him if you think it’s a good idea for you to hire someone to take care of XXX, XXX, XXX details, and ask him what he will take care of, so that you can let your extra help know to steer clear of your catering manager’s duties. I def. think there are SO many little tasks that need to be overseen and accomplished on the day of, and I don’t think a caterer will be willing to take care of it (set up your guestbook table? Set up escort cards? Scatter flowers/petals? Direct lost guests and bridal party members to the right place?).

 
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sefditz
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sefditz (message)  177 posts, Blushing bee

I am also having a completely DIY wedding. I have chosen NOT to hire a DOC. Instead, my 2 aunts will be my DOC’s. I love the list though—and the box idea, so I think we will absolutely do this!

 
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Miss French Bulldog
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Miss French Bulldog (message)  7,730 posts, Bee Keeper

I’ve been begging my mom from day one to get a DOC! She recently hired my top pick and I could not be happier :)

 
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sarsk624 (message)  361 posts, Helper bee

I’m getting nervous I opted not to have one as well as I start to worry about logistics. Our event coordinator on-site is wonderful. She flawlessly laid out our evening without a hitch. I’ve had it in hand since April. But we are getting married in a church that is only 15 miles away though it takes 45 minutes to get there. I won’t be there to ensure things are set-up properly and I’m nervous. But I’m two months out so I think I’m stuck in my bed

 
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Mrs. Tiramisu
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Mrs. Tiramisu (message)  1,098 posts, Bumble bee

Oh I feel so strongly about this too- hiring our DOC was the best thing we ever did! Sure your friends / family could do at very least an ok job, but having them enjoy the day as guests instead- and getting to spend that extra time with them- that was priceless to me.

 
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kbp81 (message)  28 posts, Newbee

@Miss Bruschetta: Do you have any acquaintances that may not be invited to the wedding but you know are super organized and awesome? I knew we wouldn’t be able to budget in a DOC, but a friend of ours kind of assumed his invitation to the wedding (he wasn’t on our list) but thankfully offered to help - so I asked him about being DOC. He’s doing it for the cost of the hotel room and some gas money (and we’re getting him a gift, obviously) - but I am already feeling a little weight lifted knowing that all my calls will be forwarded to someone else that day!

 
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SanDiegoAli
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SanDiegoAli (message)  3,076 posts, Sugar bee

A DOC was a *must* for me and I don’t think I’ll be DIYing THAT much stuff. I want to be able to relax and enjoy the day and I hope that my friends and family will be able to do the same.

 
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Mrs. Kitten (message)  868 posts, Busy bee

I’m SO glad we had a DOC! It was really a must for a destination wedding. Plus, I really wanted to enjoy my wedding day with friends and family without putting them to work.

 
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Miss D'orsay (message)  2,272 posts, Buzzing bee

k…I’m gonna go look up my previous emails with potential DOC’s and pick one….

 
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Gilneas
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Gilneas (message)  1,393 posts, Bumble bee

@Mrs. Penguin: Thanks!! Very smart advice.

 
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Mrs. Penguin, Northern California Age and Occupation: 27, Weddingbee Editor in Chief Fiance's Age and Occupation: 30, Doctor of Physical Therapy Engagement Date: January 29, 2007 Wedding Date: June 7, 2008 Blogging Since: September 14, 2007 Venue: Winery in the Gold Country About Me: I love the Spice Girls, dogs with underbites, bean burritos, making messes, high fives, avoiding showers, crossword puzzles, blogs, weddings, and blogs about weddings!

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