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Mrs. Mary Jane, Grand Forks, ND Age and Occupation: 26, Instructional Designer Fiance's Age and Occupation: 26, Lead Programmer Engagement Date: February 28, 2009 Wedding Date: September 2009 Venue: City Hall About Me: I'm a career woman on the surface and a homemaker at heart. I love fast cars and high heels, and my favorite food is cake. Mr. Mary Jane and I are both full-time employees and students, and we just bought our first house. We love to curl up on the couch with buttery popcorn, Sour Patch Kids, and the latest Netflix arrival -- whenever we can get a break from everyday life.
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The Big D.

July 8th, 2009 @ 6:58 pm by Mrs. Mary Jane

So uh, I have something to share with you. It’s not something I’ve been hiding: I mention it from time to time (though mostly on the boards). It’s not something I’ve openly and frankly talked about in any posts, either. In fact, I wasn’t planning on discussing it at all. It’s the past, and that’s where it belongs, right? Mr. Mary Jane’s and my wedding is happy, and way more fun to blog about. But as my wedding date draws nearer, my past is on my mind more and more, and I feel I need to share my experience with you all. My hope is that I’ll help someone or at least touch other ladies with similar situations to mine. I want you to know that I have been there, done that, and lived to tell about it.

So here it is: I’m divorced.

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When I was 19 and a sophomore in college, I met someone nice.

He was nicer than any other guy I dated. We were engaged at 21 and married at 22. My parents thought he was nice too, but my (very wise) mother kept encouraging me to wait. “You’re so young,” she said. “You want to be sure,” she said. “I want to get married!” I said. “We’re mature adults, out of college and everything!” So we were married in a small (20 person) beach wedding. And about 2 years ago, I became a 24-year-old divorcee. We were definitely lacking a lot of the things it takes to have a true marriage partnership. We didn’t understand how much harder you have to work at marriage than you do at a casual relationship. Even though we’d lived together, moved across the country together, and done all the Stuff That Married Couples Do… it just did not work. We didn’t understand the ramifications of marriage when we entered in to it. Mrs. Cheese has written wonderful posts about this that have touched my heart and soul. Rather than paraphrase her experiences and advice, I’m just telling you: Go read Mrs. Cheese. And take her advice seriously. She knows how it is.

There a few reasons I’m writing this post. First, I want you to make sure you are thinking very clearly about the reasons why you’re marrying. I often see posts in the boards that indicate that some engaged couples are missing the oh-so-important communication and cooperation skills, trust, and selflessness that can save a relationship when times get hard. If you don’t have all these qualities, get counseling. Read self-help books. Get tips from other couples. If one of you is resistant to helping your relationship in these ways, seriously think about how that could effect your future together. Remember that you are not marrying a husband, you are marrying the guy you’re engaged to. The event of marriage won’t solve any existing issues. If one or both of you aren’t partner material yet, it’s time to get up to speed. And seriously. Don’t marry because you want a wedding. A wedding lasts a day. Your life lasts, um, your whole life.

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And I also warn you to be very, very careful about throwing around the legal outs of marriage, even in the back of your head. DO NOT enter in to your marriage thinking “Well, if it doesn’t work out, we can always get divorced!” Because seriously? Divorce sucks. Even if you’re not religious, and even if your family is supportive, it’s still an awful, awful thing to go through. As much as I told myself that it’s just like breaking up with a long term boyfriend, it’s not. I’ve done that too, and this hurts worse; it hurts deeper. It hurts differently. It takes a long time to get over. It changes you. Mine was the smoothest, easiest, most amicable and mutually cooperative procedure you could imagine. But it still broke my heart, and when I think about it now, it can still bring me to tears (even though I have no doubt that it was the right choice).

Lastly, I want to share with you how I’m feeling with only about 2 months left before my nuptials. I’m feeling excited of course, but also a little sad. Obviously I’m not sad to be marrying Mr. Mary Jane - he’s the best partner I could possibly ask for. But memories are memories, and it’s hard not to experience deja vu while accomplishing wedding tasks.  (And did I mention that our marriage license application will be stapled to my divorce decree, forever nestled together in the county’s file? Ick.) Most of all though, I am confident. My previous marriage and divorce have matured me more than any other single event in my entire life. I have learned about pain, about loss, about compatibility, and about couplehood. I have learned about what it takes to have a strong and lasting relationship, and I continue to learn and evolve the kind of partner I am, as well recognize what kind of partner Mr. Mary Jane is for me. (He’s a good one! :))

As far as I’m concerned, my married days will start in September when I marry Mr. Mary Jane. He won’t be my “second husband”: he’ll be Mr. Mary Jane: my partner in life (and in crime!). We’ll be a team, and that fills me with a joy so huge I cannot contain it.

Are you an “encore” bride? How has your experience changed your outlook as you prepare (or prepared) to remarry?

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Lillindy
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Lillindy (message)  7,974 posts, Bee Keeper

I’m not an encore, but great post and thanks for writing it! I agree with some of the things I hear from on people here and in real life and I hope all those people get to read your post and thing carefully because I agree…divorce is no fun no matter what!

 
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SanDiegoAli
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SanDiegoAli (message)  3,076 posts, Sugar bee

I too am an encore bride. My previous divorce has *completely* changed the way I look at marriage and what I am willing to do to make THIS relationship work. I tell myself daily, “I’ve already screwed this (marriage) up once before, I’m NOT going to do it again” (and the end of my previous marriage had nothing to do with me solely, it just *wasn’t* working for us anymore.) It’s especially harder because we have kids.

Great post Miss MJ.

 
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Mrs. Meatball (message)  624 posts, Busy bee

MJ, this post was so thoughtfully and beautifully written. I just want to hug you forever. Thank you for your honest, brave and wonderful openness, and the advice, too. You’re obviously ready for this, and you and Mr. MJ are a great team.

 
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Amber1279 (message)  319 posts, Helper bee

great post! I fully and whole heartedly agree. As an encore, with kids from that marriage there have been lots of different things to think about. We have decided to view the wedding as the beginning of our FAMILY, not just a marriage.

 
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beckyp81
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beckyp81 (message)  22 posts, Newbee

Thank you for writing this. It lets me know I’m not alone in feeling a little bittersweet about my upcoming marriage. I had a less than one year marriage in my early twenties and it definitely changed me. But I hope that I am a better person because of it and have tools to help me in my “forever marriage”.

 
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lalalandTN
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lalalandTN (message)  131 posts, Blushing bee

Miss Mary Jane you just tugged at my heart a bit. Second time around has such a stigma…especially when you’re young, but the girls need to know exactly what you said- you are marrying this man right here that you’re engaged to. Neither of your fundamental beings are going to change once the rose petals have been strewn and the jazz band packs up.

I am also a second time bride. I don’t consider it “round 2″ or a “do over”. I just know that THIS man is the man of my dreams. I married at 26, a man who swept me off my feet…a musician who looked into my eyes as if he were speaking directly to my soul. It was magical and we were giddy and one random Wednesday morning we drove to a courthouse an hour outside of town. I remember my vows and remember those piercing eyes speaking my own words right back to me. Never before had I felt like I did in that moment- I was making a promise to God and a promise to myself…and wasn’t letting either of us down.
After 2 yeas my husband strayed from the marriage and I only knew of it the day he packed up his stuff and said he wanted a divorce. I found out a few weeks later that another woman was involved…and she had a baby on the way. I was devastated and heart broken….and again, Miss Mary Jane, it is not a hurt like you’ve ever felt. It goes so much deeper than you could ever imagine. I had let myself down- what hadn’t I done? What would I say to my Father, my Heavenly Father? How could I have let this happen.
And…what happens is…with time and maturity, you open your eyes and see the relationship for what it was worth. The person who was not always there for you, didn’t have your best interests at heart and who truly didn’t love you the way you deserve to be loved.
Fade to 4 years later…a casual acquaintence brings Mr. Lalaland into the picture…and at this point in my life I wasn’t sure exactly what I wanted in a man, but I was passionately aware of what I couldn’t have in a relationship. Mr. Lalaland exhibits maturity, selflessness, humor, trust, honor and certainly passion! There are so many things I never knew I wanted or needed, for that matter, that just materialized before me. My Father knew what he was doing and I feel certain had I not had my first experience, I wouldn’t be able to cherish this one so much. I am thrilled…happy…hopeful…and content.
Things are different. No courthouse! I want the dress, the cake, the music and of course FLOWERS :) This is not my second marriage…just the one that He meant for me.
Happy wedding Happy marriage to you :) xoxo

 
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Melissabegins
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Melissabegins (message)  3,340 posts, Sugar bee

@lalalandTN: that was lovely! congratulations to you :)

 
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Miss Mary Jane
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Miss Mary Jane (message)  1,970 posts, Buzzing bee

@lalalandTN: Thanks so much for sharing your experience! Congrats on finding The One!

And thanks to everyone for your comments.

 
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darilinda
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darilinda (message)  138 posts, Blushing bee

I think I fell in love with you for this post. It was so well-written and carefully thought out. I could feel your words through and through.

This is my first and final marriage. For life. I know he’s the one not only because of all the great and fabulous times we’ve had (and there have been many) but also because of the annoying times when we disagree.

Life is real, no roses. You’re bound to disagree. You’re bound to get on each other’s nerves. BUT how do you handle it? How are you willing to get through it? Are you both committed to the relationship wholeheartedly?

I think a lot of people spend time feeling like they can change things or that things will get better. I loved your line, “Remember that you are not marrying a husband, you are marrying the guy you’re engaged to.” It’s beyond the truth.

We’ve been reading the book 7 Principales to Making your Marriage Work (It was a book discussion on here and I loved it. would totally recommend to others). It puts into words what needs to happen in relationships in order to make them work because relationships are WORK.

Just thank you, Miss Mary Jane.

 
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happilywaiting
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happilywaiting (message)  1,389 posts, Bumble bee

I’m going to be an encore fiancee….I just wanted to say Thank You for this post Miss MJ! I was lucky enough to realize 2 months before “our wedding” that he was not the right man for me. It KILLED me for a long time. Looking back, sigh, it was the “dodged bullet” that some of the Hive refer to. Much love to you & Mr MJ….I have 2 loved ones (who divorced one another) now super happily married to their right person. It makes my heart sing with joy.

 
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Mrs. Quiche (message)  3,157 posts, Sugar bee

I married a man who was married before - so I know that it has its own set of challenges. Thanks for sharing! I know it will help a lot of other women out there! :)

 
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Miss Mary Jane
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Miss Mary Jane (message)  1,970 posts, Buzzing bee

@happilywaiting: I’m so glad you saw what was right for you, before getting stuck with the wrong partner! :)

 
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Karma007
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Karma007 (message)  381 posts, Helper bee

This whole discussion made me cry!My first marrige was brief and gave me my (now 15 year old) daughter. My last marriage ended unexpectedly, and while it was for the better, every now and then I question whether or not getting married again is even the right thing; I have no doubt that Mr. Karma will make a perfect life partner, but I wonder sometimes if I have any business getting married again. How many “once in a lifetimes” does one person get?

FI and I talk about it alot, and speak openly and only half-jokingly about the only exit clause being certain death. In a wierd way, it’s comforting to know that he is as determined as I am to make this work, no matter what.

So with a deep breath, no regrets and no looking back, here we go!

 
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Mrs. Cheese (message)  801 posts, Busy bee

This is a great post (and not just because you were nice about my posts). I was worried that our wedding day would be bittersweet and that I wouldn’t be able to avoid remembering my Other Wedding Day… and to be honest, right before walking down the aisle, I looked up to the skies and thanked the universe for giving me a second chance, then bid goodbye to my previous husband. That was it. From that point forward, “my husband” is Mr. Cheese, and my marriage isn’t my “second” because this one is good. It’s much, much harder, but I think that comes with knowing what you’re in for and trying to be the best person you can. Not doing that is easy, but not right.

Getting divorced was the hardest thing I’ve ever done, because I had to face who I was. Getting married again came in a close second, because I had to face everything I wouldn’t be.

I have no doubt that you’ll be fine. You know where you stand and who you are. Smoochies! And bless you for your honesty. I’m proud of ya!

 
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Mrs. Sushi (message)  1,479 posts, Bumble bee

@lalalandTN: You told that beautifully. Congrats on finding the guy for you. :)

 
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labbit (message)  193 posts, Blushing bee

Wow Miss Mary Jane…thank you so much for sharing this. I narrowly avoided becoming a two time bride. I was engaged to the wrong person and didn’t have the guts to end it. I knew it was wrong, even before I accepted his proposal. Young and foolish, I thought we could work it out. I thought that life was never perfect and a person who complimented me as my equal could not exist. Fortunately, time and distance did the breaking up for me and we didn’t take ‘the plunge’. Looking back, I know with certainty that it wouldn’t have worked out.

But here’s the thing - I learned more from that experience than any self help book could have taught me. I’m kind of a bang my head against the wall till it hurts kind of girl - I don’t listen well to other people’s advice unless I’ve lived it myself. That relationship prepared me from the one I am currently in. The one I like to think is the right one. I found the man who is my equal, who I can argue with constructively and who I am completely satisfied and happy with.

I am sure divorce hurts more than any break up ever could. Again, thanks for posting this. I think a lot of girls need to hear it.

 
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happilywaiting
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happilywaiting (message)  1,389 posts, Bumble bee

@Miss MJ - as much as it hurt…it worked out. But it also much more opened my eyes to the unimaginable hurt that divorced couples go through. I thank God that I only had to make a phone call to my mum and send one email to my BM’s, they took care of the dreaded cancellations & notifications…I wasn’t strong enough at the time.
But it has given me a stronger kick in the butt about watching out for my own happiness…how can I be happy with someone else if I’m not happy with myself. This time, I know it’s gonna be right….like you & your Mr….much love to you both.

 
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futuremissjp
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futuremissjp (message)  27 posts, Newbee

MMJ! Thank you so much for sharing this. My mom tells me all the time, ” Love is wonderful because it is hard.” I’m from a family ridden with divorce and it can be discouraging, especially when many of my twentysomething brethren are so jaded they don’t believe in marriage at all anymore. I think the important thing is, not to sound trite, but the important thing is not to get jaded but to learn from your own experiences and others and to commit to not repeat the same behaviors and expect a different outcome. I appreciate your candid honesty and I am so happy that you are happy! :)

 
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happilywaiting
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happilywaiting (message)  1,389 posts, Bumble bee

@labbit - AMEN!

 
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eloping
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eloping (message)  5,073 posts, Bee Keeper

ive picked up once of twice your reference to a previous marriage and i was a bit surprised and guessed you must have been very young. thanks for sharing your history - and heres to a wonderful future for you and your Mr!

 
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Mrs. Mary Jane, Grand Forks, ND Age and Occupation: 26, Instructional Designer Fiance's Age and Occupation: 26, Lead Programmer Engagement Date: February 28, 2009 Wedding Date: September 2009 Venue: City Hall About Me: I'm a career woman on the surface and a homemaker at heart. I love fast cars and high heels, and my favorite food is cake. Mr. Mary Jane and I are both full-time employees and students, and we just bought our first house. We love to curl up on the couch with buttery popcorn, Sour Patch Kids, and the latest Netflix arrival -- whenever we can get a break from everyday life.

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