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Professional photographers are very passionate about insisting that you shouldn’t ask just any friend with a camera to take your wedding photos. But aren’t they just out to make some money? They are running a business, after all. What’s the real difference between a professional with a fancy Canon camera and your friend with one?
Seattle Bride set out to answer that question and the results are quite fascinating. They asked Cody Ellerd, a professional travel writer with a Nikon D60 to tag along with Joey Hong of John & Joseph Photography at the wedding of Vicky Wu and Chris Nicoll. Cody Ellerd has had a few of her shots make the covers and pages of magazines so she definitely has an eye for photography! To quote her, “If you didn’t budget for a professional photographer at your wedding, I’m the friend you might call to take pictures.”
After her experience with John Hong, Cody has changed her mind about hiring a friend for her own wedding which she is in the midst of planning. To quote her, “I now disagree more than ever with the digital-age adage that “now everyone is a photographer”. Tens of thousands of dollars in education, equipment and experience separate me from the pros. Professional photographers, like any other artists or business owners, need to spend money to make money. When you hire them, you’re helping them pay for their investments.”
An example of Cody’s shot:
And John’s:
You can see the rest of the photos and read the full article on Seattle Bride’s website.
There are so many reasons why I would be scared to ask a friend or family member to photography my wedding. Do they have a contract? What happens if their camera or lens breaks? How will they handle the posing of group photos? What if their landscape or portrait photography skills don’t translate well for the varied circumstances of a wedding day?
Are you having a friend or family member (non wedding photographer) photograph your wedding? Or, how are you making room in your budget for a professional?
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This is a great post, Avocado! I think professional photograph is in anyone’s reach…even if a professional photographer is out of the reach of your budget based on the packages they have on their Web site, it’s always worth the time and effort to see if they can come up with a custom package. Maybe it’s less hours or no album or whatever, professional photography is worth every penny!
Unfortunately, my pictures usually end up like that first one! For us, photography was too important to leave to chance…we made sure the budget allowed us to hire a pro for as long as we want on the wedding day!
Thanks for posting this, Mrs Avocado!
We’re actually having a friend photograph our wedding, but she’s a professional sports photographer. She’s spent the past year learning how to transition into wedding photography, and she says she loves shooting weddings. Normally I’d agree completely - don’t just get a friend to shoot your wedding - but I’m confident my photo-friend will do a good job.
such a helpful post! I’m convinced 
Interesting post!
We’re having my future sister in law’s best friend shoot pictures for ours. She’s a photography student and she’s shot a couple weddings before and honestly, I’m fine with whatever happens. If I have one good picture of the whole day, that’s enough for me. Our overall budget hovers around 10K and spending the average on photography would mean we’d have to invite fewer people, nix any hosted drinks, etc etc. Not worth it to me. But I’m confident in my FSIL’s friend, she’s got the equipment, she’s got great shots in her portfolio generally, and we’re happy to help her continue building it.
I’m going to hire a professional. I have a cousin who is a great amature (I’ve seen his shots of his friends’ weddings), but I want him to enjoy the wedding and be in the family shots. I’m hoping he’ll bring his camera though and capture some other things. And use him for the rehearsal dinner. SO, I’m considering him to be my “back-up” plan.
We are having a close friend shoot our wedding–but she is a professional photographer, so it works out. We happen to be friends with a number of professional photographers which came in handy–before our friend offered to shoot our wedding as a gift to us–we were going to pay another friend who quoted us $1,000 and he has shot numerous weddings and we’ve seen his pics. But then our friend offered to shoot as a gift and is also shooting our rehearsal dinner—so we got really lucky!
Thank you for posting this. Too many people these days think they’re a professional photographer (me being one of them. ) There’s a difference between shooting a good photo and shooting a good photo because you understand f-stops and shutter speeds.
You usually do get what you pay for.
if you are on a low budget get a pro who is just starting out. We hired our photographer fresh out of college. He has a photography education and takes excellent photos. He is just starting his business so he is investing in new equipment all the time. Plus his prices are cheap! We were one of the first to book with him so we got even cheaper rates then he is offering now.
We found him on craigslist. I highly recommend going this route!
As the friend-tographer to many of my friends and some family, I wholeheartedly agree. I have a decent eye. I have two dSLR bodies and a couple of lenses. I can take a decent shot. But I don’t have the BEST equipment, nor do I have the money to spend on it (since generally I operate as a friendor - not a paid vendor). So all I can promise is that I’ll do a better job than Your Random Uncle With A Point-And-Shoot. If it comes down to not having the budget for a true pro photographer, I’m happy to oblige my friends. But I am no pro, and you can clearly see the quality difference between my photos and a true professional’s - especially in low light or motion settings.
I’m lucky enough to have a friend who’s trying to start a wedding photography business and wants to build her portfolio. She’s transitioning to it from a different photography background (like Ms. Bear Cub’s friend) so she has a lot of experience and I’ve loved all the photos she’s taken previously, but it’s still cheap!
An interesting follow-up would be interviews with brides who didn’t have a good experience with a professional photographer (i.e. Mrs. Shortcake). While the details aren’t important, and of course hindsight is 20/20, I only liked about half a dozen shots taken by my professional photographer. At the end of the day, he and I had very different taste and style and I should have gone with someone who had a record of doing weddings like I wanted rather than taking him at his word that he could do what I wanted.
While I wouldn’t recommend anyone to avoid professional photogs based on a few scattered bad experiences, I guess what I want to say is that at the end of the day, no matter how much you spend or who you hire, there’s no guarantee that you’ll like your wedding pictures.
My FI’s father really wanted to photograph our wedding. I’ve seen some really great pictures that he’s taken, but he’s more of a self-taught hobbyist than a professional. My mom helped me put my foot down and insist on hiring a professional, and I couldn’t be happier about the decision!
This is a great post. I think a lot of people think that portraits and other types of photography are an easy transition into weddings but there’s so much more going on that it could be much too overwhelming unless you have a lot of experience as a 2nd or third shooter and a really high quality camera that you know how to use exceptionally well. Just cuz you take pretty pictures doesn’t mean you’re a wedding photographer, haha.
I think it definitely depends on the situation, and everyone should use their best judgment. We had an experienced friend photograph our wedding and we are very happy with the results. Also, there is something to be said for having a friend rather than a stranger there for your engagement shoot and wedding. It made us much more comfortable to have our close friend capturing our day rather than a stranger unfamiliar with our style or interests. And, since ours was a destination wedding, having a friend do it meant we could avoid the hassle and uncertainty of trying to find and book a photographer from a distance. Our friend had photographed other weddings before ours, which helped a lot - I definitely wouldn’t recommend letting a friend do it who had no experience!
I should note that I’m not a professional wedding photographer, but a professional military photographer….there is a difference.
I think there are different levels of amateur photographer… just as there are different levels of professional photographer. I was shocked when looking for ours how many bad so-called professional photographers are out there. Sadly just because you’re paying out the ear for a service, doesn’t mean it’s top quality.
i was lucky enough to have friends that ARE professional photographers! Looking back the only thing I would’ve done differently is write up a contract….but it was tough because they took our photos for us as a wedding gift!
If I wasn’t 100% confident in their ability to shoot, we wouldn’t have hired them.
My aunt is a photography enthusaist and photographed all of my cousins weddings. Her camera failed at one of the weddings (she did not know until afterwards). It was a huge disaster and she felt terrible about it. Not sure if this was a sign of things to come, but the cousin whose pictures were ruined - her marriage did not last either.
My sister was the first cousin to use a prof. photographer. She felt a little bad doing it, but did not want to risk it. I am using the same photographer as my sister.
Thank you for posting this At one time, we really thought we didn’t have the wiggle room in the budget for a professional, and were going to have several friends work together for our photos. In the end, I got smart and compared my photos with the professional photos from my best friend’s wedding. Same lighting, same angle, and his blew mine out of the water. To be honest, I’m glad I scaled back the rehearsal and welcome dinners, skipped a few appointments at the hair salon, and got my kick a$$ photographer. I know this way, I’ll be happy and care-free on that day as a trained professional takes care of our photography.
My friend hired a pro to take her photos but then insisted that they also use the photos taken of her friend in her album. The shots the friend took were neat and pretty but the quality of the image as compared to the pros image was not good at all! You can flip through her album and tell that who took which photos because they didn’t print the same. The pros know what they are doing!
I agree with your post. I think photography at your wedding is too important to let a friend take the pictures for you. No matter what. There are too many variables involved period.
Both of my parents have always been into photography as a hobby and being raised around that got me interested in it as well. I took photography classes in both high school and college, even though I was in the science/medical field. I’m far from professional myself, but I do think I have a very keen eye for what looks good and what doesn’t. I hate seeing clutter in the background or a light post in the distance that looks like it’s coming out of someone’s head. Ugh!
There’s no way I would have left my wedding photos in the hands of someone inexperienced. And I agree with NixLapi. When looking around at different photographers I saw quite a few who charged a lot and even got good ratings but their photos seemed very bland and unoriginal.
Oh, and on a side note we had to move our wedding indoors at the last minute because it started raining. The room we were in was small with not much lighting and even though it had windows it was dark outside due to the storm. None of our guests got good photos in that room due to the lighting. Most of the pictures were very blurry. Our photographers had the skills and the right lenses to capture every moment though!
I agree-My sister did the “friend of a friend who was just starting out” as her photographer and while she did get a few nice shots-I think they happend randomly and had nothing to do with her “talent” ..or lack of. Photography is an art, just like singing,dancing,painting,writing ect..you really need to work on your art for years before you put up a website and proclaim you have a passion for photograpy.
After reading WeddingBee I decided photography was important. I was one of those people who though our friend who takes pictures on the side could do our photos and Im so glad I changed my mind.
Wow, that article is fantastic!!! Great side by side comparison and proof that what you get is (usually) what you pay for.
Thanks for sharing!!!!
Thanks for this article, Mrs. Avocado. We’re having a friend do our photography. He’s a very experienced professional portrait photographer, but I’m still nervous about how he’ll capture the action at a wedding. I’m glad we’ll be doing an engagement session first to see his work.
Great post! When we were interviewing photographers, it seemed that many “professional” photographers were really just average Joes w/ fancy cameras. I felt like the only difference between hiring one of them and getting a photo-hobbiest friend to shoot the wedding would be the price tag!
For those of us who don’t know too much about photography, what kinds of questions should we ask, and what should we look for in a pro-photog to ensure we’re getting somebody who REALLY knows what they’re doing? I mean, I can look at a picture and decide if I think it’s pretty or not…but how do I tell if the photographer knows all the technical details that an experienced photographer should? I’d hate to pay somebody a bajillion just because they’re a “professional” when they don’t have professional-level skills.
nope. love my friends but i’d much rather hire a professional. however, i am friends with a pro so i’m really hoping he’ll be available for my wedding when it’s my turn!
I’ve been the “friend” in three weddings now, and while yeah, I got lucky on a couple of shots here and there, the overwhelming majority of my photos are…okay. I know my limits–I’ve always preferred shooting buildings over people, and it shows!–so I really, really try to discourage people from relying on me to document the most important day of their lives. I’m bookmarking this article to help argue my case in the future.
Great post, Avo!
Photography was the #1 most important aspect of our day, and the first vendor we hired! There is no substitute for fabulous photography.
A side note: If your friend-tographer is uncomfortable with shooting your wedding, don’t be offended!!! I’ve turned down shooting a few family members’ weddings and they’ve been offended by it - thinking it’s ’cause I don’t want to. It’s not! Its’ because I don’t trust myself, my skill, or my equipment to capture such a special day!
Interesting comparison. I have several friends that studied photography in college and own almost professional, if not professional, cameras. While only two of these friends actually majored in photography, only one is serious enough about photography in general. He owns several professional cameras, a variety of prime and zoom lenses, lighting equipment, and also works as a cinematographer, mostly working with lighting. He is probably more qualified than any of the 45 wedding photographers I reviewed during my search for a wedding photographer.
Of course, he helped me find the photographer that suited FI and my budget without sacrificing talent that much. While going through portfolios with him sitting at my side, he could point out right away everything that was wrong with the photograph, for the sake of not saying sh*tty. He was also able to tell how much Photoshop or other photo editing software a particular photographer used. For example, if the photographer used editing software to cover up her/his mistakes or whether he/she used it to enhance it, in which case, the photographer would use it minimally. Why is this important to me? My FI is a graphic and web designer. Has some knowledge of photography. And while he is not an amateur photograher, he has worked on editing photography for clients. If there needed to be any editing done, he would take care of it. We wanted someone with real talent behind the lens. Someone who uses proper lighting (no overhead flash!), proper exposure, a proper lens (nix the zooms), good composition, etcetera. We wanted to pay for a good photographer, not a BSer, and a mediocre one at best.
We came up with a rating system, 60% and above qualified the photographer for a phone call. Out of the 45 photographers we reviewed, 3 were rated at 95% and above. They were the most amazing and talented of the bunch, and were way beyond our budget (starting ta 4K). Those that were rated between 90% and 60% were given a phone call. We made 4 calls. Two of these photographers were already booked.
We met with one and got to see more of his work. I left unhappy and not ready to resign to use his work in case things didn’t work with the second photographer, who got the better rating. We held a conference call with the second (better) photographer. After speaking with him, we hoped he would quote us at least $1,500 less than his starting package. In the end he did, so we booked him.
What I have learned from this process is that finding a professional photographer who is worth your money is ardous. Most “professional wedding photographers” out there are not in the least bit professional. The industry is made up mostly of amateurs who know nothing about what makes a good photograph and shoot whatever trend is hot, which oftentimes result in horrible photography. In three months worth of searching and reviewing, I saw my share of underlit, overlit, underexposed, overexposed, graininess, outright bad composition, blury photographs, and anything else that defines bad photography. If I could, I’ve have my friend shoot my wedding. But I couldn’t do that to him. I want him to enjoy our wedding and reception. Although I know he will still shoot throughout the night.
I don’t have any advice, and I’m sorry to end this comment on such a low mood. Maybe it’s just my area that has such crappy photographers. My dream photographer is Max Wanger (sigh). But I settled for the next best thing within my budget. I hate this feeling of resignation, but I must admit defeat. The wedding photography industry has completely disillusioned me.
Photography was far too important to me to trust to anyone, I have a few friends who are professionals, but decided I wanted them to enjoy the party instead of work
Photography was our #1 splurge and we came into the planning knowing it would be. It was important to us, and we interviewed quite a few “pros” before we finally found one that we agreed on. Now as we’re starting to see our photos it was totally worth it!
On the other side, we have a friend who is just getting started. He would already be at our wedding, but we really wanted him to enjoy himself…but we also wanted to help him out as well so we asked him to shoot the rehersal & reh. dinner. He even did some casual photos of us that night as well. The one catch is as a friend-tographer we really have no clue when we’ll see those photos…it’s not his profession so it’s not his top priority to edit and return them to us.
I hired a professional for the wedding, but we are having a friend do our engagement pictures. We’ll see how they turn out!
I’m having a friend who I went to high school with take care of the the photos for our wedding. She is actually an aspiring photographer, and will have just finished schooling when she does our wedding next June. However, she’ll already have 2 other weddings under her belt, and I have always admired her photography.
What a great article, thanks for sharing! We’re using friends of a friend to shoot our wedding. They’re new to the business, but their years of experience in their portfolio speaks for itself.
Interesting perspectives. Since I am a professional photographer, I am obviously biased. Since the recession, there has been a significant influx of amateur and semi-experienced photographers into the wedding business. Often, they are offering prices which on the surface looks appealing. And, the reality is, sometimes a bride only has $500.00 for a photographer. That is life. Or, if flowers are more important, that is a preferred choice. Sometimes, a couple believes the honeymoon is the most important part. These are ALL good choices.
I would like to share just a different viewpoint from our experiences. We quite often hear the phrase “I wish I had spent more money on photography at my wedding”. Now, some of you at this point are thinking - this guy is trying to keep his territory. He is simply justifying his price, etc. But let’s be honest, unless you are in my market, you are very unlikely to hire me for your wedding. I am merely sharing from my heart out of the desire to help you make an informed decision you can live with for many years to come. If you think wedding photography is worth only $500.00 - hey - go for it. However, please do not be naive to think that there is no difference between a seasoned, trained professional and a college student, uncle with an SLR, some one who has shot a few weddings, etc.
To put it in perspective - there are many photographers whose price range begins at $20,000.00 a wedding. Yes, $20K. And, they are usually booked a year out in advance. Why? Because when you see their images there is a difference, as should be. But, it brings up the important question, what quality of photographer do I want for my wedding? What level of professionalism do I want? How will this person interact with my family? Are they insured? And, bottom line, will I like my photos? Perhaps it is easier to understand why the “average” professional photographer charges between $2,000 and $3,000 per wedding (depending on the market). Just trying to point out that people pay these prices for a reason - quality and professionalism.
One last note - we have started encountering a few brides who are interested in reshooting themselves and their husband in their wedding gown and tux. Not a “trash the dress” session. Strictly portraits dressed as a bride and groom. Why? Because they are so dissatisfied with their wedding photos. They want some nice pictures of themselves for the future and are wanting to re-photograph themselves. Think about it - these people already paid for wedding photography, and they are wanting more…
With all sincerity, please think carefully about your decision for choosing a wedding photographer. You only have one wedding day.
Either way, I hope you have a wonderful wedding and wish you the very best!
Be blessed,
Curtis
Great post Avo! Photography was one of the most important vendors to us, we definitely wanted our pics to have a certain feel that we knew we could only get w/ a professional
I agree completely. Equipment is something a lot of people bring up and that’s not even the issue. I’m a professional designer not because I use the Adobe Creative Suite- it’s because I’ve spent my entire life studying art and the last ten years doing professional design. It’s not the programs that make me a designer, and it’s not the DSLR that makes a professional wedding photographer a better choice than your friend.
It’s sad that so many people undervalue creative work. Thank you for this post.
Thank you for this post Mrs. Avocado!! I have lots of talented friends and thought for sure that photography would be an area where I could save money. But lately I’ve been nervous about asking our friend to shoot our wedding. I think I’m going to start meeting with photographers and finding a way to fit it back into the budget. I’ll see if a pro is comfortable with my friend taking pics too, then we’ll definitely get great shots and our friend can still build his portfolio
I’ve yet to meet a bride that has been happy having a volunteer friend with a big camera photograph their wedding. Its hard to spend so much money on a day and then not have a really nice photographer documenting it! Aspiring wedding photogs are still a better idea than a friend with a camera. Craigslist, photography schools… all good places to find someone on the cheap, if budget is a major issue. As long as they’re INTO weddings, and understand what brides want in photography, you know?
We are having a friend shoot our wedding. I’ve never seen any photos he’s taken and have no idea what kind of camera he has. I am I worried? Well, yeah maybe a little. I’m resigned to the fact that we won’t have the kind of stunning photos that you see on wedding blogs.
On the other hand, I have been at weddings with obnoxious photographers that think they are journalists or something, elbowing grandma aside to get a shot of a centerpiece and generally making an ass of themselves demanding that I have my photo taken with some guy I have never met before, I think the ex of a friend.
Whatever. The day, the moment in which the wedding is taking place is more important to me than a photo of it.
You truly get what you pay for usually, so thanks for writing this!
This completely shows that you get what you pay for. Although, I have to say my cheaper photographer that I picked last week after the fallout from my more expensive friendor is actually better quality-wise. I’m glad we cut her and her extra $2000 out of our budget.
I couldn’t agree more! I was in a wedding where the bride “hired” a friend to take photos. The posed photos took TWO HOURS. I thought that the quality was decent, but the novice had no idea how to coordinate people. When we finally got to the reception everyone had already eaten and was ready to jet.
I must be unusual because I like the style/composition of Cody Ellerd’s photographs better than Joey’s though the lighting and graininess is definitely not as good in most of them. I do prefer Cody’s last picture to Joey’s though.
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for this post!
It’s the same for videographers as well. Amateurs just don’t have the same quality/experience. And even if you have a fancy camera, it doesn’t mean you’ll use it correctly.
I’m a journalist and it’s even true for the “iReports”. These people think they are real reporters but really, they’re just eyewitnesses using a little bit of technology. Sure, they are integral to news nowadays because reporters/photogs can’t be everywhere all the time (especially with the mass layoffs happening in our field), but don’t prance around like you have professional training just because you whipped out your iPhone at the right time.
Okay, /rant.
I gave all of my guests a CD in a stamped addressed CD mailer to save their digital photos to, then mail back to us. Yeah, 70% of the ones they took were bad, but there are a ton of photos that our photographer didn’t get that I love! My sister (who has a fancy camera with a huge lens) snapped a close up of me and my dad going down the aisle. The photographer’s same shots of Dad and me are grainy because of the low light in the cathedral and because he was far away. Plus, our photographer didn’t seem to do any post processing of the photos (which seems the big difference between your two example photos, in addition to the non-blurriness) and took some blurry photos of the flower girl and ring bearer himself. This is someone I paid $3000 and was recommended to us by a wedding planner! I wouldn’t blow off hiring a photographer, but definitely get your friends with nice cameras a CD so you can get all of their photos in high resolution.
I’m a relative amateur and I just shot my friend’s wedding. She was on a budget, trusted me and had reasonable expectations and most of the shots turned out awesome. I didn’t have as much experience with flash, some lenses, etc. as a pro would’ve but I saved her 2 or 3 grand and gave her 250 beautiful shots.
As I was researching wedding photography beforehand, the dominant advice was “don’t let a friend do it! they’re not capable!” and I’m glad we both ignored this. Sometimes I think wedding photography, like a lot of the wedding industry, is getting out of hand.
Eh, I say yes and no. For some people, to whom photography means a lot, of course the professional is going to be better and “worth” the cost. But not everyone cares that much about photography. And really, the mania about wedding photography is fairly recent — when my parents got married about 30 years ago, they had one engagement portrait and got maybe 10 or 15 prints from their photographer. I sometimes wonder if the photographer is still around and still has the negatives, actually — I’d love to see what (and how many) other photos were taken that my parents didn’t choose to buy. My grandparents each have one wedding-day portrait, that’s it. So, for someone who doesn’t need a million photos of little details, and who just wants a couple nice shots, I think a friend with a camera would be fine.
That said, we did splurge a bit on our photographer. I actually think she’s a little underpriced for her talent, but I wasn’t going to fight her on that! But I didn’t choose the photographer I REALLY loved because her price was just not worth it to me, ridiculously beautiful photos aside.
And I definitely agree with those who said that it’s nice to make sure a few people are bringing cameras, just in case. I know of more than one person who spent tons of money on a photographer who seemed great and then totally dropped the ball at the wedding itself. Better to have some decent photos from a friend that aren’t *quite* perfect than no usable photos at all.
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Great post - I stumbled upon this a few days ago myself on their site, and thought it was great! Photog was definitely my priority vendor-wise…you can’t have a do-over on that day! Sooo important to have a pro!
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I totally agree–leave this to the pros! After the wedding is over, your photos are all you’ll have to remember it by! I’m not sure how I feel on the whole videography topic, though. Maybe if you have a great pro photog you can just hire a friend to video?
Thank you for this post Mrs. Avocado! We decided on a friend (breaking into the business) for E-pics because those can be retaken but for the wedding day… we’re leaving that stuff up to the pros!
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Age and Occupation: 23, Student
Fiance's Age and Occupation: 26, Consultant
Engagement Date: July 27, 2008
Wedding Date: October, 2008
Blogging Since: June 30, 2008
Venue: LDS Seattle Temple & Hotel 1000
About Me: Somehow this little farm girl found herself a genuine Pole to fall in love and eventually move away to Poland with. I am an LDS bride attempting to plan a private religious ceremony, ring ceremony, seated reception for 100, and an open house while coordinating for guests flying in from across the United States and as far away as Poland. I try to avoid fads, excess waste, and saturated fat. I strongly endorse photography, DDR, calorie counting, rss feeds, cooking, and utilizing your resources.
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