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Mrs. Mary Jane, Grand Forks, ND Age and Occupation: 26, Instructional Designer Fiance's Age and Occupation: 26, Lead Programmer Engagement Date: February 28, 2009 Wedding Date: September 2009 Venue: City Hall About Me: I'm a career woman on the surface and a homemaker at heart. I love fast cars and high heels, and my favorite food is cake. Mr. Mary Jane and I are both full-time employees and students, and we just bought our first house. We love to curl up on the couch with buttery popcorn, Sour Patch Kids, and the latest Netflix arrival -- whenever we can get a break from everyday life.
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Weddings are about the bride (and, sometimes the moms).

There, I said it. Because it’s usually true. Sure, there are exceptions. A small percentage of the time it’s the groom who wants and facilitates the wedding, but wouldn’t you agree that most of the time, the responsibility behind dreaming up, planning and orchestrating the wedding falls mostly on the bride?

Before anyone gets their panties in a bunch (or their, um, boxers in a bind), I’m not saying that men don’t want to get married. But the wedding? It’s generally a girl thing. Expensive dresses, flowers, colors, themes, family etiquette, delicate decorations: these do not scream “testosterone” to me. It’s not that the men force these tasks on us though: most women eagerly take them on. It’s our wedding day! It’s time to make some paper products! To taste some entrees! To register for china patterns and KitchenAid Mixers! To browse through hundreds of possible bouquet arrangements!

Sometimes, though, we might get a little too caught up in wedding tasks. Because with the responsibility of throwing a fabulous event comes stress. And deadlines. And the notion that we Must. Please. Everyone. And the complaint that Nobody. Is. Pleasing. Us. And the inevitable, rational, but entirely unwelcome “Don’t worry, it’s not that important, it’ll all come together” speech from our fiances. The speech that prompts us to shoot them a look so severe that they question whether we’re actually capable of shooting fricken’ laser beams from our fricken’ heads.

Have You Hugged Your Groom Today? :  wedding relationships Dr Evil
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Because seriously. “It’ll all come together?” Yeah it will. ’Cause I will MAKE IT COME TOGETHER. Beyotch.

Ahem. A wedding is the celebration of the love we share with our groom. We’re going to become partners for life, joined in the eyes of our friends and family, God, and/or the government (if we’re fortunate enough to have our marriage recognized in that way). Sometimes, we brides forget that.

Instead, a lot of couples unfortunately feel like this on their wedding day:

Have You Hugged Your Groom Today? :  wedding relationships Bridezi
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Here’s how we should feel (because, excuse me? We’re getting MARRIED!!!):

Have You Hugged Your Groom Today? :  wedding relationships Swans A
[Modeled by the adorable Mr. & Mrs. Swan]

One thing we all need to do is to remember that our grooms are part of this wedding. What better way to start a lifelong partnership than by planning the party together? Are there things he likes or doesn’t like about the wedding plans? Find out and try to incorporate his tastes and interests in to yours if possible. Maybe he doesn’t want to be involved (or can’t be). That’s fine. Just make sure you don’t forget to offer.

If he does want to be involved, don’t simply ask his opinions when necessary. Invite him to participate. He may enjoy working with you on various wedding tasks. I really enjoyed working on the picnic invitations with Mr. Mary Jane. We got to spend some quality time together (that didn’t involve movies, eating or commuting), and it gave us time to converse as well. His help also quickened the process exponentially (and I didn’t have to round a single corner myself!). If you can’t work together, split up your to-do list and assign him some tasks of his own. (Hint: Don’t demand that he “must do X and Y by Friday,” instead ask if he has time to help you check X and Y off your list.)

Have You Hugged Your Groom Today? :  wedding relationships Checkli01
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Also, keep in mind that most grooms aren’t spending their free time immersed in the world of Weddingbee, TheKnot, and the myriad of wedding blogs, message boards and communities available via the World Wide Web. Don’t assume that they’re wedding experts (and don’t act like you’re one, either: pooh-pooing his “completely tacky” suggestions without a second thought)! Throughout our planning process, Mr. Mary Jane has brought up a variety of questions that helped to remind me that he’s not a wedding guru:

Are there any traditions I’m supposed to know about for the wedding day?
Mr. Mary Jane wanted to know about things he’s seen glimpses of through skimming some of the posts on Weddingbee. Things like gift exchanges, engravings, first looks, etc. I already had a good idea of what we would and wouldn’t do on the day-of, but I hadn’t shared any of this with him.

Why wouldn’t the registry information go in the invitation?
Mr. MJ made a statement regarding this way back when we were thinking of doing the whole shebang: a big wedding. This is such a common question asked by pretty much everyone who’s never been a bride or a bridesmaid. And it’s got such valid points. Including the info makes sense. But OH MY GAWD, it’s SO WRONG according to everything we’ve read. So ladies, don’t chuck your hardcover copy of Miss Manners at your groom when he asks you this question.

Have You Hugged Your Groom Today? :  wedding relationships Llubav
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How will I place the ring on your finger?
Don’t forget to discuss this with your groom. Some women take the e-ring off entirely until after the ceremony. Some allow the wedding band to be placed in front of the engagement ring, and then flip them quickly after the ceremony. Others take off their e-ring and have the groom slide both rings back on during the ceremony. Still others move it to their right hand. (I’ve heard stories of grooms unsure of which hand to place the wedding band on because the bride moved her e-ring without mentioning it to him.) Mr. Mary Jane had assumed that the wedding ring and engagement ring would be fused together prior to the wedding, allowing it to act as one ring during the ceremony. This isn’t the case, but he didn’t know because I never mentioned it. Talk to your groom and make sure he knows (and approves of) your plan.

What is the wedding day schedule?
Our wedding is late in the afternoon on a weekday, so Mr. Mary Jane was of the mind that he’d go to his classes on the day of our wedding. I saw a thread on the boards recently from a disappointed bride-to-be whose fiance told her he plans to work on their wedding day. Make sure you and your groom are on the same page regarding the wedding day timeline. You’ll have no problem filling your day with primping and adjusting and beautifying and last-minute-detailing; are there things you’d like your groom to take care of on that day? And what activities would make him happy on his wedding day? What does he want (or not want) to do? What are his expectations for how the day’s going to play out?

Is ______ normal/expected/traditional?
This relates to pretty much anything aside from the ring exchange and the white dress. Your groom probably doesn’t know what’s “normal”, wedding-wise, and/or what will seem weird to guests. Will guests be put off by having assigned seats at the reception? Is an aisle runner something that normal people have? What’s with this “sand-ceremony” business? Your groom may not know. In our case, Mr. Mary Jane questioned the picture and “about us” info in our invitations, the notion of displaying parents’ wedding photos at the picnic, and a few other ideas I suggested. (Of course, it’s OK to say “No, it isn’t normal at all, but I’d like to do it anyway, are you game?”)

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By treating the wedding like an event for both of you (even if you’ve taken over the bulk of the planning), you can help ensure that you’ll both come out of it feeling satisfied that it was a perfect day you created together. It made Mr. Mary Jane happy to help with the invitations: he was proud of the work we did together to bust them out so fast. He also really enjoyed picking out our rings together, meeting our photographer together, and even helping me pick out a wedding dress (and we all know THAT took forever). Weddings are no video game, car show, Super Bowl, or [insert other manly-man activity here], but they’re still something that most grooms can appreciate being a part of (even if it’s just because they know it’s so important to their sweetheart).

Is or was your groom involved with your wedding (if he wants to be)? Has he asked you any questions about elements that your bridal blog-addicted-self assumed were common knowledge?

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52 Responses to “Have You Hugged Your Groom Today?”

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ThePinkSuperhero
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ThePinkSuperhero (message)  271 posts, Helper bee

I feel so blessed to have a groom who’s just as interested and involved in wedding planning as I am!

 
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Abbee
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Abbee (message)  377 posts, Helper bee

Great post, a reminder of what it’s all about!

 
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Mrs. Crab Cake (message)  834 posts, Busy bee

Great Post MJ!!

 
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Mrs. Swan (message)  1,046 posts, Bumble bee

MJ,

I think I love you :) I had to show this to the Mr. I’m glad I didn’t read this at work, or people would have looked at me like I was crazy from my cackling.

I totally agree with trying to have the Mr. involved as much as possible. I knew he didn’t care about flowers, so I didn’t bother him. BUT I made sure that we picked out food together, that he knew some basics of what was going on schedule wise, and that he was at the vendor meetings that he could make among other things. He even didn’t mind registering because I made sure that I kept his end on the minimum of what I knew would keep his attention (i.e., what would HE like to receive as a gift/giving him control of the scanner gun ’cause that’s pretty darn important). I think it’s important that our partners feel invested in the day as much as us (although I acknowledge that not all will want to).

These are great tips!

 
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Sulli301
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Sulli301 (message)  5,268 posts, Bee Keeper

Great post :)
I am lucky that my FH is pretty good about the wedding stuff, helps when he can, listens always and puts up with my bridezilla moments !

 
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minneapolitan
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minneapolitan (message)  740 posts, Busy bee

Great post! My FI is super involved - because in our case, he was totally the one who wanted a big wedding with all of his family and friends. I was ready to run off and elope and have a BBQ afterwards.

But, since it was so important to him to have a wedding, and because my relatives would have skinned me alive if I eloped, I went along with the whole big wedding thing. Since he knows I’m not into it, he’s really willing to help ease the planning. Granted, I still end up doing most of the work/research because I’m just a little bit better at it, he’s done tons of the vendor contacting, helping make decisions, and everything.

 
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Miss Sunbeam (message)  545 posts, Busy bee

Mr Sunbeam helps now and then. Sometimes he definitely gets tired of the wedding talk, and I do talk about it a lot…. maybe that’s why he hasn’t had any questions so far!

 
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Mrs. Bunny (message)  349 posts, Helper bee

I love this post. I came up against so many of these issues with the wedding. Mr. Bunny told me pretty late in the game that he often felt like it was MY wedding, not his, because I just wouldn’t let him help! It wasn’t that he didn’t like the things I’d chosen or that those little details weren’t representative of him. (Once again, one of those statements that made me want to throw something at his head!)
It was true, in a lot of ways, though.
I really struggled to remember that I wasn’t burdening him by asking him to help.

Oh yeah, also got that question about the registry information. That comes up a lot.

 
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Little Lulu (message)  108 posts, Blushing bee

This is a fantastic post! I think I’m one of the exceptions to the rule though. I think Mr. Lu wants a wedding even more than I do. This is not to say that the millions of wedding possibilities out there don’t really excite me, but I’d be cool with heading down to City Hall hand in hand any day of the week and just getting married. And while there are certain people I’d love to have at the wedding, I’d be ok with it just being the two of us - getting married and having a bite to eat afterwards….but I think he definitely wants more than that. And that’s fine. My only concern is, I don’t think he realizes what an undertaking the type of wedding he’s interested in can be…and while I’ll work as hard as possible to make it the perfect day for both of us, I sometimes worry that I’ll get stuck doing a lot of the work on my own.

 
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Miss French Bulldog
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Miss French Bulldog (message)  7,730 posts, Bee Keeper

GREAT post MJ! and it couldn’t have come at a better time, I just got off the phone w/ Mr Frenchie and was super frustrated w/ him… this really helped :) THANKS!

 
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Miss Dew Drop (message)  381 posts, Helper bee

I love this post! Mr. DD has been really good about keeping involved with the wedding planning and making me feel like this is our event and something that’s important to him. Which might be the only reason I’m still remotely sane at this point! Probably time to go hug him now… ;)

 
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PattyG
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PattyG (message)  95 posts, Worker bee

Great post Miss MJ! My fiancé and I have been pretty good about cooperating with all wedding tasks. I always focus on US and what we like and what we enjoy. Although sometimes it is really difficult because my mom (who is not the overbearing mother) sometimes tries to say what “should” be and its difficult but my fiancé keeps me grounded and reminds me its OUR wedding and no one else’s.

 
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MsHymanRoth
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MsHymanRoth (message)  2,434 posts, Buzzing bee

Oooh good topic. I actually lmao and showed fiance that comic just now … he goes “That’s how you are.” So I guess this does make me “wake up” and realize it’s him and I together in this.

My fiance is very interested in planning the most spectacular day of our lives, but he isn’t interested in the small details. He loved doing the “big stuff” with me and now he is not interested in any of the small details at all. =)

I do feel really lucky that we are doing this together and have been able to do this as one … it feel like a big accomplishment.

 
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iswimibikeirun
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iswimibikeirun (message)  1,355 posts, Bumble bee

That was very thoughtful, Miss MJ. We take so much for granted and assume so much. Isn’t it so important to have our expectations in the open in a relationship–and even more so on our wedding days?!?

 
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evelinej
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evelinej (message)  370 posts, Helper bee

I like your post. It made me laugh at times. Like the bride dragging her groom, it’s too funny!

 
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ktdid

My husband mentioned early on in our planning that he hated bows and really hoped we would not have any bows at our wedding or reception. It was hard to do but you know what? No bows anywhere that day! Well, except on the presents people bought and he saw past those I’m sure!!!

 
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ScotIrishGirl
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ScotIrishGirl (message)  307 posts, Helper bee

What a great post! My fiance is completely oblivious to all that is wedding! He threw a fit my name was first on the invitation and accused me of not only insulting his family, but hating them and seeking revenge! Next on the list…he became irritate when found out he was not coming with me to pick out my gown! Thankfully, he is close to his mother and his older sister just got married last year. I have relied heavily on both of them to help me out!

 
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Valhalla
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Valhalla (message)  1,425 posts, Bumble bee

Fantastic post! You really hit the nail on the head. Grooms are often forgotten about in the wedding planning process. My fiance and I are working closely together planning our wedding. It started out simply because we were paying for it ourselves and each of us wanted a say in the budget of the photographer, etc. But really it has been a great opportunity to learn more about the type of wedding he envisions. We are working together to make sure the day is a celebration of love that both of us can enjoy :)

 
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missvintage (message)  571 posts, Busy bee

Fantastic post, I think we sometimes forget about what our grooms may or may not know/care about.

 
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Mrs. Penguin
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Mrs. Penguin (message)  3,499 posts, Sugar bee

I loved reading this post! I always could tell Mr. Peng was really excited to celebrate our wedding, but not that excited about planning… and that was ok :) He did a helluva job planning the honeymoon!

 
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Mrs. Mary Jane, Grand Forks, ND Age and Occupation: 26, Instructional Designer Fiance's Age and Occupation: 26, Lead Programmer Engagement Date: February 28, 2009 Wedding Date: September 2009 Venue: City Hall About Me: I'm a career woman on the surface and a homemaker at heart. I love fast cars and high heels, and my favorite food is cake. Mr. Mary Jane and I are both full-time employees and students, and we just bought our first house. We love to curl up on the couch with buttery popcorn, Sour Patch Kids, and the latest Netflix arrival -- whenever we can get a break from everyday life.

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