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Mrs. Cub, Chile/Portland Age and Occupation: 26, Astronomer Fiance's Age and Occupation: 28, Astronomer Engagement Date: May 10, 2008 Wedding Date: September 2009 Venue: Westwind YWCA camp About Me: I'm a small-town girl who's making a living in Chile, with her heart in the Pacific Northwest. I grew up in Southern California, went to high school in Texas, grad school in New Mexico, and now I can't wait to settle down in Oregon! I love pears, hazelnuts, knitting, traveling, running, baking, and long talks on the phone with good friends. I'm planning my Oregon coast summer camp wedding while abroad with my best friend - I'm always at home when I'm with him!
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Over the past few weeks, I’ve gained a new skill. Marketing reps should be quite proud of me; I now have plenty experience with cold calling friends, family, and strangers about our wedding.

Our invites were sent out a few weeks ago, and the RSVP date was this past weekend (I promise I’ll share the details on our invites soon!). Out of the 175 people we invited, only 25 have actually RSVPed, be it yes or no. The calling game has begun, and it’s not fun.

At first it wasn’t so bad - I called a few of our family and friends I was pretty sure were planning on coming. As suspected, they were just a little late with their “yes” RSVP. It’s been wonderful hearing people say things like “I wouldn’t miss your wedding for the world!”, “Of course we’re coming!”, and “Viking-ninjas couldn’t stop me!”. Now we’ve gotten to the doldrums of the delinquency list. Now we’re calling the maybes, and the most-likely-nos. And it’s no fun.

The worst part is the “maybes” who are worried about coming to our wedding because it’s at a campground. The first thing I’ve heard from a lot of people is, “we’ll be staying at a motel in the neighboring city,” and then “I have to catch a plane at 7AM the day after the wedding,” and after that, the always popular, “do we really have to bring sleeping bags?”

*sigh*

Yes. You really need to bring a sleeping bag. Don’t worry, you’ll be fine. The cabins are a little rustic, but they are heated. I understand that all the airlines smoked some crack a few years ago and decided to charge for checked luggage, but if you really don’t want to pay $25 for an extra bag, we can arrange for you to rent a sleeping bag when you get to town (hopefully I can fit this into my already ballooning list of errands to run during my ONLY WEEK IN THE STATES).

It’s really not advisable to stay at a motel in a neighboring city. While you mean well, it will only cause you more strife. Remember, our venue isn’t exactly NORMAL. It’s surrounded entirely by Nature Conservancy land, and the main access is via once-daily ferry. It is physically possible to drive to the camp, but only a handful of cars are allowed at the camp grounds. Since it’s in a forest, the idea is to preserve it, not pollute it. READ: there’s a reason we’re recommending everyone sleep at the camp. It’s easy. Driving to a “neighboring” motel is most definitely not.

Unfortunately, even those who are definitely coming to our wedding are having issues dealing with the uniqueness of our venue. Almost every phone call I make to our family and friends includes me selling the idea of our wedding. Here I am, living in another country, finalizing the plans for my wedding, and I’m left reassuring our guests that yes there are bathrooms (communal), and yes the food will be healthy, and no you probably shouldn’t try to get a hotel in the neighboring town. Oh, and by the way, YES it will be a wonderfully fun and amazing weekend! I find myself telling our guests not to worry about the circumstances of our wedding so much, and it’s really getting me down.

Why should I have to sell the idea of our wedding so much? At this point, I really feel like the best wedding gift anyone could give us is REALLY just their presence. I know that’s what a lot of people say - “your presence at our wedding is the only gift we need!” - but seriously. It would be such a wonderful gift to us for our guests to be able to chill out & go with the flow.

I understand that a lot of people think the idea of a wedding is to include as many family members as possible. By that notion, we should have planned our wedding to be at a country club or some other place that’s easily accessible. That may be suitable for some people, but it just isn’t for Mr. Bear Cub and me. It’s just not us. We wouldn’t feel comfortable - it wouldn’t feel as sacred or special unless we had done it our way. And our way is how we always feel comfortable - in nature, playing fun games (like Frisbee!), and camping, singing, laughing, hugging. I know this means that not everyone can make it to our wedding - we understood that when we signed the contract at our venue. A wedding means something different to everyone, but I believe that it should be a community effort. For a short while, everyone puts aside their issues and worries, and works to make the wedding a success.

I have a positive attitude when it comes to our wedding, but recently it feels like it’s being stretched too thin.

Have you had to sell the idea of your wedding to your guests? If you’ve had a few guests that have been nervous about attending your wedding for whatever reason, how have you eased their nerves? And how have you kept a positive attitude, while being beaten down by the naysayers?

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50 Responses to “Selling the Idea of “The Wedding””

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mary-alice-me
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mary-alice-me (message)  1,864 posts, Buzzing bee

Oh dear, I can’t imagine having to call so many people! It does sound like you’ve thought this through and actually want to make it easy for your guests! I had a lot of gripes about mine, too, that it wasn’t in his hometown or mine, and that it was an hour away from an airport. Oh well. All this will be completely worth it in the end, right? ;)

 
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BeachyBride2010
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BeachyBride2010 (message)  350 posts, Helper bee

Great post… as a destination bride I’ve been selling the idea as well.. I did TONS of research to find the perfect spot for us, taking into consideration allllll the nuances of travel outside of the country, the cost, etc. UNDERSTANDING full well that it would be a small and intimate group. What is most annoying is the ones who were on board early on have backed out… HELLO??? Yes, it’s a fun getaway, really, no kids… yes, it’s all-inclusive, with drinks and food and tips and transfers. Just come for the fun, trust us, you’ll LOVE it!!

 
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Miss Lamb (message)  970 posts, Busy bee

I’d love to come to your wedding! I understand what you mean about “selling” your ideas. It was hard enough for me to sell the idea of having online rsvps! I think you’re wedding is going to be fabulous and I’m sorry that not everyone is wrapping their brains around the fun, albeit non-traditional, venue. Hang in there!

 
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Miss.Swede
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Miss.Swede (message)  46 posts, Newbee

Hey I would love to come and stay in a campground!! We are having a hard time because we are asking all my FI’s family and freinds to come from Sweden to the states. As of right now his parents and sister plus a best man have said they will come. He knows that unless we get married in Sweden which we cant do since he wants to get residency in the US his grandparents and 99% of friends will not be there. And even then I feel as if I am selling them on it and its putting extra pressure on me (probably self imposed) since I feel hey people are flying 15+ hours I bettter make it worth it rather then focusing on what we want from the wedding. Sorry this was a bit of a rant!!

 
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JenniferMarie0703 (message)  33 posts, Newbee

People just need to suck it up and learn to love Nature, if not forever, then just for your special day!

Our problem is, our families are spread out ALL over the entire East Coast of the US. We decided to have our wedding in a local church in the town my fiance’ grew up in. But now I have to hear it from my family that lives in the Northern states(Where I was born and raised) that I’m not having the wedding up there. Hello!! I’ve lived in the south for 15 years. And FH his entire life, why would be travel 21 hours to have our wedding somewhere that isn’t that “homely” to us!
So yes, I definately know what you mean, I feel like I’m having to “sell” our wedding to our guests as well. I realize it’s a long drive for my family that live up North. But I’m not expecting EVERYONE to come. But it would be nice if atleast some of them come, considering FH and I make the drive up north about once a year(not in our planned vacation) for a family members wedding/new baby birth, etc!

 
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HurseyGirl (message)  131 posts, Blushing bee

It was and still is exceptionally difficult to “sell” the idea of my wedding. I had about 25% of my RSVPs returned, and that was only AFTER making the dreaded calls.
How has it gotten to be that people think it’s OK to blow off a response? When they plan something for themselves, they want to know how many people to expect so they can plan accordingly. Why do they think it’s different for weddings?

 
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Mrs. Penguin
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Mrs. Penguin (message)  3,530 posts, Sugar bee

We did the opposite… I wasn’t all that excited to have a winery wedding but I really didn’t want Mr. Pengs family to have to fly all the way to california just to go to a “hotel” type wedding… I wanted them to have a californian experience. So I had the wedding that I figured our guests would like most… which in the end was lovely. The positive side of it all was that I didn’t have to sell the wedding, like you’re mentioning. The process was pretty organic. And in the end, we were still married, and everyone was happy.

 
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tea
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tea (message)  7,278 posts, Busy Beekeeper

oh i’m sorry you have to go through that! but your wedding sounds like so much fun, you wouldn’t have to convince me. but i know that people always have questions, even when you provide them with all the information. it’s so annoying. hopefully you don’t let this get you down!

 
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Gerbera
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Gerbera (message)  4,481 posts, Honey bee

Selling it to my fam every single day!
We still have no venue yet but yes, everytime I see something I think “is this a good compromise”? Something that the FI & I love but isn’t “too crazy” for my fam. We want to get married where WE want but it’s also important to us that our [immediate] families are happy. That’s just how we are.

 
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Champagne Wishes
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Champagne Wishes (message)  1,187 posts, Bumble bee

True story: My cousins had a 4H Camp Wedding weekend just like the Bear Cubs!
Yes, we was not thrilled about camping but we managed and had a wonderful time staying up late with everyone… sitting around the fire, playing games, singing musicals. The best thing was we could just walk back to our cabin and call it a night.
My uncles however, opted for the hotel in town. Because of the park’s curfew, they HAD to leave early every night and missed some of the best moments with our family.

So feel free to tell your “maybes” that CW says stay at the cabins! The memories alone are well worth it.

Good luck!!

 
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Miss Bruschetta (message)  5,565 posts, Bee Keeper

A number of our guests aren’t comfortable with driving into, or parking in, Philadelphia. And I can feel the negative thoughts they’re kinda sorta holding back, and it definitely hurts, because a Philly reception is just so “us.” So, BC, I totally hear your frustrations…just on a very different, urban front :-)

 
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KathyQ (message)  138 posts, Blushing bee

I kind of had to sell our wedding too, to some people, because it was a destination wedding and that came with a lot of questions. We handled it by sharing as much information as possible (a wedding newsletter about 6 months before the wedding, a website with hotel and travel recommendations, a yahoo groups listserv, frequent emails and conversations with friends and family). We did our best to arm people with all the information we could provide about applying for passports, booking international flights, planning their trips, finding hotels, etc. Other than that, we just focused on the positive: the people who were really excited and happy about our plans, and just tried to ignore any naysayers. It sounds like you’re doing all the right things! I know how you feel - good luck!

 
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FutureMrsKoontz
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FutureMrsKoontz (message)  151 posts, Blushing bee

We’re having a DW in Jamaica, and I’m definately having to sell our wedding. I keep having to reassure everyone that, “Yes, it’s safe.” “No, you won’t be robbed in the street.”

I don’t understand why everyone is making such a big deal about it! I just want everyone to come and have a nice vacation and enjoy our wedding. All the negative energy ppl give really gets me down. But, then I look at our photographers blog, and it reminds me why we want our wedding in Jamaica. :)

 
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thefuturemrsjewell
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thefuturemrsjewell (message)  1,829 posts, Buzzing bee

I’m sorry that some of your guests seem to be having a problem with the idea of the camping wedding. I think it sounds amazing!

 
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ladybuglove
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ladybuglove (message)  740 posts, Busy bee

that cartoon made me lol.

I too would love to come to your wedding! it sounds like so much fun! but, i am an up-for-anything type of gal. unfortunately, most people are not (this is coming from a non-scientific survey, mind you).

i’m sure it’s not fun to have to “sell your wedding,” but some people are just narrow-minded. do you have a website? are most of your guests web savvy? if you have a website, maybe you can make it more interactive (if it isn’t already), so that all or most of their questions could be answered? you know, put pics of you two having fun at the camp, pics of the camp (with the bathrooms) and pics of people being warm inside their cabins, etc., etc.

i’ve had to sell some ideas to my FI. my mind is wayyyyy out there……lol….and his is notsomuch.

good luck! seriously, from all of your posts, your wedding sounds like it’s going to be full of love and laughs and fun!:-)

 
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Miss Politico

Miss Bear Cub, I’m not a big outdoorsy person, but I’d definitely come to your wedding as it sounds very “you and Mr. Bear Cub”.

I feel your pain as only two of my mom’s 8 siblings are coming to our wedding in DC and I am super close to all of them. A lot of them are afraid of flying and a lot of them can not afford the wedding. However, I fly back to the Midwest all the time for their weddings, kids’ weddings, baptisms, parties, etc. Ah! And these are folks that take trips all the time and occassionally fly. And I picked an affordable hotel close to public transportation and got a discount on airfare.

Sounds like it is THEIR problem, not yours. I know it is annoying, but I’d rather have 5 of the people that really care about me come to our wedding rather than 125 people that are going to complain all weekend.

 
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gibbysgirl21
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gibbysgirl21 (message)  134 posts, Blushing bee

I hate to admit it, but I’m actually okay with the declines, since I was so afraid of our guest list expanding on top of what we already have. I’m more in the mind-frame that if people really want to or can come, they will say yes. I’m discouraging maybes by giving them a deadline for catering purposes or they are crossed off. In a nicer sense.

We had a decent turn out on RSVP’s- about 60 of the 150. Not too bad in comparison. I’ve slowly been starting my calls/IMs, etc. to follow up with the non responders. Our DD is tomorrow.

Best of luck to all the bees on the guest list dilemma. This has been the only pain in the *** so far for the wedding. :)

PS- I would love to go to a campground wedding.

 
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MelissaB
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MelissaB (message)  438 posts, Helper bee

That sounds really frustrating! I know it can feel like a personal rejection when you plan something that’s so “you,” only to have people be less than enthusiastic about the idea. I can sympathize with guests who aren’t super-enthused about communal bathrooms or paying $25 to check their sleeping bag (full disclosure: camping isn’t my favorite thing in the world), but it’s not like you’re asking people to sleep naked outside in December or something! And honestly, if they had concerns and weren’t sure if they wanted to come because of the location, they needed to talk to you before the RSVP date. Letting that slide and forcing you into a phone call from a foreign country is wishy-washy and annoying!

Do you have a wedding website? Could you put up something like a Campground FAQ that answers all of peoples’ questions about the location, the sleeping arrangements, etc? (Forgive me if you posted about this and I missed it!)

 
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Miss Mascara (message)  859 posts, Busy bee

I totally understand. None of my friends from Chicago are coming to our wedding because it’s “too far to drive” the 4.5 hours up to the UP for the weekend. And they think our wedding is in the middle of nowhere, which it is in a way, but there are plenty of things to do and it is not as desolate as they think! It’s frustrating.

 
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LovestheBear
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LovestheBear (message)  1,250 posts, Bumble bee

I’m sorry you have had to call so many people, and from out of the country. Your wedding sounds like it will be so much fun!

 
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Mrs. Cub, Chile/Portland Age and Occupation: 26, Astronomer Fiance's Age and Occupation: 28, Astronomer Engagement Date: May 10, 2008 Wedding Date: September 2009 Venue: Westwind YWCA camp About Me: I'm a small-town girl who's making a living in Chile, with her heart in the Pacific Northwest. I grew up in Southern California, went to high school in Texas, grad school in New Mexico, and now I can't wait to settle down in Oregon! I love pears, hazelnuts, knitting, traveling, running, baking, and long talks on the phone with good friends. I'm planning my Oregon coast summer camp wedding while abroad with my best friend - I'm always at home when I'm with him!

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