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Mrs. Swan, New York City Age and Occupation: 31, Legislative Representative Fiance's Age and Occupation: 33, Finance Guy Engagement Date: August 9, 2008 Wedding Date: August 2009 Venue: Battery Gardens About Me: I am an un-crafty but resourceful, Caribbean-born but New York-raised woman who's been known to analyze "Dancing with the Stars" and “So You Think You Can Dance”, buy stinky cheese, and use way too many parentheses. I keep lists for fun, am constantly daydreaming of my next international travel adventure (four continents down, three to go), debating sports (let’s Got Mets/Giants!) and dancing around my apartment to stay sane. I am excited to share our wedding planning journey as I hope to plan a streamlined, personal, and fun wedding with the greatest life partner I could ever imagine, Mr. Swan.
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Taking the Long Route

September 9th, 2009 @ 2:19 pm by Mrs. Swan

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Yesterday I celebrated another birthday as the well as my first month as a newlywed. As one of the older bride bloggers in recent memory on Weddingbee, I figured that I would talk about being a slightly older bride. I’ve definitely appreciated Miss Star’s posts about being a younger bride (here, here, here, and here). Since I’ve got a couple years on her (okay, like, a whole lot more), I thought I would also provide some perspective on the other end of the spectrum. I know that I am not the oldest bride/newlywed ever on Weddingbee, but I think being a bride marrying well after the national average of 26 years old for women in the U.S. has some specific joys and challenges as well. One of my primary motivations for writing this post is that I often feel like sometimes there is this sense that there is a self-destruct button when one turns 30, especially for unmarried women. Well, I am here to let you know that I been to the mountaintop, and the view is fine. :)

How did I get to be slightly older bride? I don’t know, because I surely didn’t plan it! I actually didn’t meet Mr. Swan until I was 28. I spent most of my 20s without so much as a boyfriend. I definitely went on dates and had some significant romantic entanglements, but I had not had any long term committed relationships since my early 20s. Actually, by the time I met Mr. Swan back in late 2005, I had not even had a date for about eleven months!! I was at the point in my life where I didn’t think I was going to get married, and to be honest, I was pretty okay with it. I had definitely made my peace with the idea of not being married and was relishing a life of complete, adult freedom. None of my friends were married or engaged; my family is not full of married people; and so I did not have what I like to call a “culture of marriage” surrounding me.

Granted, I think when and how you get married is a product of a lot of different social forces. I think it’s a function of where you live, your social groups, life choices; you name it. Based on my quick, unscientific sociological research, I am probably a pretty prime candidate/statistic for later marriage: (1) I have lived most of my life in the Northeast, which regionally has later marriage rates; (2) I’ve lived in major cities almost all of my adult life; (3) women with a college degrees (or more education) do marry, but on average a few years later than those who do not; and (4) for what seems to be a variety of sociological reasons (someone can write a book on this topic, and I think they are) Black women are the least married group—only approximately 52% are married by the time they are reach 30 (contrast that with apparently approximately 81% for white women and approximately 77% for Latinas). I was a stat, and I didn’t even know it.

Being a slightly older bride has its joys and challenges. Here are some observations from this side of the age spectrum:

Pressure (or pity) from family or friends - I have been pretty lucky that Mommy Swan, my other family, and friends have never really made me feel inadequate because I was single through most of my 20s. I can’t say that’s true for many women that I know. Whether through pressure or passive-aggressive comments from family (and perhaps some friends), many women have to deal with a society that subtly tells them often that they should be married preferably not too early, but not too late, either.

Pressure from within - I feel we all judge ourselves a lot. I know I am probably my worst critic. I think women especially give themselves a hard time about what they should be accomplishing by when and how (I do this constantly about my career), and I know that the “Oh no, I’m not married by 30!” conversation has happened at some point for many women I know. Whenever I mentally start down this path, I try to remind myself that I am at the place where I’m supposed to be, when I’m supposed to be there. It doesn’t always help, but it stops my internal grumbling… at least for a little while.

Starting a family - As you can tell by simply adding one to my age in my profile, I am now 32. I will be the first to say (especially since I have no choice) that there’s nothing wrong with having kids in your 30s. While I agree that women shouldn’t take their fertility for granted, children born to slightly older women can still be healthy and happy. This is all to say that I already know that I am going to be a slightly older mother than the national average (although not here in NYC, based on some trips to the park), but I am okay with that. Mr. Swan and I recognize the life shift that will happen once we have children, and we want to ease into it. We know we don’t have the luxury of waiting for a very long time. Well, actually, we can wait, but we are well aware that there some possible consequences for doing so. When I get worried about being an older mom, I just think about Michelle Obama.

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She looks pretty good for having two kids when she was in her mid and late 30s.

A little bit of experience under the belt - I am sure that anyone getting married is happy with the timing of their choice, but I do feel that getting married a little later has allowed me to have experiences that I am glad to have had. I’ve traveled a ton, lived alone (and loved it), worked hard, and learned a lot about myself. I think you can definitely enjoy and grow from many of these same major life events while being married, but I think having done so will bring a little sumthin’ to my relationship with Mr. Swan.

Anyway, I just wanted to represent for the brides “gifted with a few extra years of life” out there in ‘bee land. Regardless of our age, I think we should be happy that we’ve found people to share our lives with!

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56 Responses to “Taking the Long Route”

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melodyjune
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melodyjune (message)  239 posts, Helper bee

Great post, Swan. I’m a younger bride, but I definitely think there are so many perks to being a bride with a few more years behind her. And even though we’re marrying young-ish, we want to wait till our early 30s to have kids for all of the reasons you described above.

I hope you had a great birthday, Mrs. Swan!

 
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Clover (message)  68 posts, Worker bee

Thank you for writing this. I will be 31 when I get married next Summer, and will quickly turn 32 (much like you Mrs. Swan!). I wouldn’t change the timing of my life for anything. I certainly had my moments of doubt and uncertainty. But in hindsight, I grew and learned so much from being on my own throughout most of my 20’s. I am proud of my accomplishments, both as a single woman and as the other have of my relationship.

Grew up on Long Island, just outside of NYC, and also lived in Boston and have a J.D. I think all of those factors helped to contribute to my slightly older age.

 
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budgetbeautiful (message)  1,188 posts, Bumble bee

I’m also an older bride at 33. Like you, I spent my 20’s single and wasn’t really interested in settling down. I’m glad I waited until I was older to get married, I don’t think I would have been ready in my 20’s! My age has also been a factor in deciding to have a relatively short engagement. If I was a younger bride, I’d probably have set a date further away so I could save up for a grander affair.

At 33, I want to get married and start having a family relatively soon, so that was a big factor in our plans!

 
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Newport Nuptials (message)  1,133 posts, Bumble bee

I am going to be the national average when I wed, but I really enjoyed your post. It’s interesting to read about others perspectives and experiences.

I completely agree with geography relating to when you wed and people’s perceptions. I’ll be the average age in the US, but living in Boston, many people consider me young to marry.

As far as motherhood- I have a friend in ny who had her first child at 28, which in most areas is probably average, but she said most women look at her like she is a young teenager who isn’t ready for motherhood. The baby’s grandmother is often mistaken for the mother when they go to the parks in Brooklyn, because there, most new mothers seem to be in their 30s and 40s.

 
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Mrs. Canary (message)  637 posts, Busy bee

Great post Swan. I really enjoyed hearing your perspective on this and I agree that it does seem to be a trend in the Northeast. I love the Michelle Obama reference!

 
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LatteLove (message)  4,120 posts, Honey bee

thanks for sharing your perspective! I didn’t really think of it from an “older” bride perspective. And if it helps, I don’t think you look a day over 28! :-)

 
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jennycv
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jennycv (message)  293 posts, Helper bee

Good Post. I’ll be getting married next summer! Two months away from my 30th birthday!

 
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Mrs. DG
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Mrs. DG (message)  4,236 posts, Honey bee

I just want to add a plug for getting married at a slightly older age and having kids older. The maturity that you bring to your relationship and to child rearing, should serve you (well, who’s kidding– us) well.

I met my partner when I was 31, was resistant to dating him until I was 34… For me, I never really had a scary age, but we did have the unfortunate realization that because I’m 38, we’d have to start trying for kids right away… and that it might not be easy. Still, I held out for everything I knew to be right in a relationship, and I don’t regret it for a second. I am confident that this is a lifelong bond.

So, there are pros and cons to marriage at any age. I really appreciate the discussion of it, and wanted to make sure the pros of waiting got out there too.

 
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Mrs. French Bulldog
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Mrs. French Bulldog (message)  6,077 posts, Bee Keeper

Great post Mrs Swan :)

 
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santababs (message)  56 posts, Worker bee

Great post, Miss Swan. I never think about myself as an “older” bride at 30, but I guess I am! I remember when I moved into my own apartment in my 20s…my mom was so worried that I would become too set in my ways to ever settle down with a man.

 
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santababs (message)  56 posts, Worker bee

Sorry, Mrs. Swan!

 
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Gerbera
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Gerbera (message)  832 posts, Busy bee

Loved your post and find your stats really interesting!
I don’t think there is a “good” age for everyone to get married. Sometimes when you meet the right person you just know. Whether your 18 or 40. FI & I started dating when I was 18 and quite frankly by 21 we knew we were IT for each other. If it wasn’t for a whole host of external issues that WE chose to deal with first before getting married we woulda been married already. So I don’t really believe there is a argument for getting married young or old that applies to everyone. It’s all different for everyone.

 
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Miss Moonbeam (message)  1,335 posts, Bumble bee

Great post, we certainly planned on getting married later but now that we’ve decided to go for it, it’s kinda fun.

 
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tea (message)  2,659 posts, Sugar bee

seeing that i’ll probably be 30 by the time the boy and i tie that knot, this was great. and talk about outside pressure: one of my sunday school students blatantly told me i needed to hurry up and get married. i was 25 at the time! one hot mess.

 
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Miss Frozen Yogurt (message)  887 posts, Busy bee

Swan, this was definitely a great post. I think so many women worry about this. I’ll be 29 when I get married, and I’m ok with that. :)

 
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no, yall aren’t older brides. I will be getting married next summer for the first time - I will be 45. I AM an older bride! I had decided I didnt want to be married (slight self deception) and then met my best freind. But I dont feel any different than a younger girl! I am excited, and nervous, and have been searching for “the right dress” for almost 8 months. I hate that as a woman I STILL feel that until I ‘get married” i am in some way a failure. I am just glad I finally learned what love looks like (as opposed to romance.)

 
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tropicalbridey (message)  44 posts, Newbee

thanks for your post, Mrs Swan. I’ll be 33 at the time of our wedding. On this board, that’s on the higher end of the age range. But in my personal circle of friends and family, it’s about average. Here in San Francisco, women who marry in their 30’s don’t seem to be regarded as “older” brides. Most of my girlfriends (ranging from late 20’s to late 30’s) are having weddings this year and next year, and none of us have kids yet.

 
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PlaidBride (message)  135 posts, Blushing bee

I’m 35 and am getting married for the first and only time. I really enjoyed your post. There is a lot of pressure in your late 20s, but I will say it subsides after a year or two (I think that people may give up). The one thing I will say is a bit difficult is that all of my friends for the most part are married and have very strong opinions on vendors and colors etc. I think some of them are looking at my wedding as an opportunity to do over theirs. Yikes.

 
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RAllise (message)  438 posts, Helper bee

Fantastic post Mrs. Swan and thank you for bringing this topic up. I my social circle it’s the norm for a woman to get married in her mid 30s, I’m a bit more mature in years. To our friends this is natural but to our families and outsiders, there were lots of pity looks and stereotypes to deal with. Great post.

 
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vintage2010 (message)  1,028 posts, Bumble bee

I’m in the same boat. I will be 32 years old and exactly one month and he will be 33 years old and 10 days when we get married!

You are right about the pressures society and ourselves put on being married/single.

I’m an encore-FI and I remember when I called off that engagement I was 24 years old. I thought my life was over and I was never going to find another person at my age. But I met the Mister on his 29th birthday and my 28th. We both had been engaged prior and there was something peaceful and calming about having that samed shared experience. We both owned our own homes and car. We both were settled into our careers.
So for us I feel like we needed to go through those experiences seperately so that we could fully appreciate each other and our relationship.
I often tell him that if I had met him 10 years ago I wouldn’t have even gone on a date with him or if I did date him, I would have ran all over him. He is a nice guy and I was into the “bad” boys back then. LOL
Thanks for the great post!

 
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oakbubbles (message)  6 posts, Newbee

I will be getting married for the first time next year at age 38. I’m a pretty unique person who enjoys my independence and it took a while to find my wonderful mate, even with all the diversity of men here in the San Francisco area. There was a few friends getting married in their 20’s, then another few summers of weddings in our early 30’s after finishing grad school. Lately it’s been baby showers as most of my friends are finally having children between 35-40. So I wouldn’t think of someone being an “older” bride at 30! We thought about eloping, but figured we could provide a good excuse for all our friends to get together by throwing a party. Finding a dress has not been easy, I do have difficulty envisioning myself as the “princess” that so many seem designed for.

 
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abrideagain
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abrideagain (message)  531 posts, Busy bee

What a great post, Swan! It’s about time that someone represented for the “older” brides on weddingbee…although at 33, I have to say that 32 isn’t old at all! wink, wink!

 
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Thanks for the thoughtful post. We’ve got a lot in common- I too am in my 30’s (36) and I’m also doing Battery Gardens!

 
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markyk
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markyk (message)  174 posts, Blushing bee

Love this post. I can relate to all of it!

 
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mary-alice-me
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mary-alice-me (message)  1,870 posts, Buzzing bee

Great post, Swan. It’s so hard to put how you feel about a certain age with a number, and of course it changes once you get to that number. I go back and forth on whether being 28 is “old enough” to get married.

 
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Miss Poodle
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Miss Poodle (message)  3,020 posts, Sugar bee

Loving this post! you rock Swan, and Feliz cumpleaños again :)

 
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Miss Raindrop
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Miss Raindrop (message)  32 posts, Newbee

Love, love, love this post and the women relating to it. Just had my 32nd birthday, and it seems as if the only reason I don’t get pressure to marry anymore, is because everyone is past that, and onto having kids! (I’m from the Midwest and a very Christian background where getting married young and having kids is prevalant.) Thank you Swan for this post! So glad to not feel alone.

 
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mrstye
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mrstye (message)  75 posts, Worker bee

When I was engaged, a secretary at my office asked me how old I was. I said 29. She replied, “Oh good, so you’ll be getting married before, you know, the big birthday” as though it was some sort of life goal to be married before age 30. I told her my birthday was before the wedding and she gave me a pitiful look.

Whatever. Old biddy.

 
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lkbphmd (message)  186 posts, Blushing bee

Great post. Like Miss Raindrop I’m in the midwest where being single (oops- engaged!) and 34 is an oddity. Most of my friends have been married 10 years or longer and several have school age kids! But I wouldn’t change anything about how I got to where I am today. I’m glad to see there are so many women who I can relate to on this board!

 
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AmberWaves
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AmberWaves (message)  227 posts, Helper bee

“gifted with a few extra years of life” I’m rolling on the floor at that one Mrs. Swan. Love it! I’ll be 34 by the time we marry next year and frankly, I wouldn’t have it any other way. ;)

 
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excellent post! thank you.

 
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Miss Politico

Thanks for this post! I will be 31 and my fiance will be 35 when we tie the knot. Though average in our area, most of our hometown and college friends have been married ten years or more! I definitely feel like an old maid in my family though my parents have never pressured me.

 
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Mrs. Margarita (message)  369 posts, Helper bee

Great post! I am not particularly young or old to be married, but I can relate to both sides :)

 
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Miss Star (message)  1,291 posts, Bumble bee

Oh, Mrs. Swan, I’m so glad you wrote this post! It’s awesome being able to hear about it from the other side and I definitely think you’re right about there being advantages to going either way. Yay!

 
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kayakgirl73
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kayakgirl73 (message)  361 posts, Helper bee

You rock Mrs. Swan. Great post. I’m 36 and most of my college friends married in the early 20’s. Most of my friends in the DC area did get married in their 30’s.

 
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lalalandTN
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lalalandTN (message)  91 posts, Worker bee

Amen Mrs Swan! I love this post. I would actually like to see more representation of brides in their 30s who are planning weddings. The excitement is contagious regardless of age, but I really think a ten year age difference in brides represents a rainbow of other differences. Thankfully we all have the same thing in common- we’re in love and we’re totally stressing out planning these shindigs!!

 
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Mitla
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Mitla (message)  350 posts, Helper bee

Thank you SO MUCH for this post! When we marry, I’ll be 30 and FH will be 46. (!) We are definitely outside the average “wedding demographic.” I’m the last person I know to get married, and I’m happy to have more “life experience” to bring to my marriage and to our future kids.

Also, I read one of those “30y/o black women are the least married” articles, too. I decided to willfully disagree with it and had gotten to the point where I didn’t care what age I was when I got married.

A month or two later, I met FH. Ha!

 
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Mrs. Swan (message)  389 posts, Helper bee

Hey everyone!

Thanks for the love :) I’m glad you got something from this post.

 
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Miss Ramen (message)  263 posts, Helper bee

I know I fit right in with that average age of 26, but i DEFINITELY felt like the odd girl out, since a lot of my friends have been married for several years and have KIDS. i’ll still be in school when their kids are start school!

i think the 30s are something to look forward to! - still sexy, but with a mature edge.

 
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Vic004
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Vic004 (message)  784 posts, Busy bee

Happy belated Bday Mrs. Swan!! And yes, I am so very thankful for my years pre husband, they taught me a lot about myself!!

 
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jmc
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jmc (message)  476 posts, Helper bee

This is so great, thank you. I also met my fiance when I was 28 and I’ll be 32 when I get married. I also didn’t have seriously relationships between 22 and 28 and am soooo glad I didn’t marry my early 20s boyfriend (he used to talk about it). We were idiots then! Also, my FI and I agreed that we would not be together now if we had met earlier in life… we needed to grow up before we could get serious. And around age 28 we were more or less ready to get serious.

 
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Laylabelle
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Laylabelle (message)  1,946 posts, Buzzing bee

Happy birthday Mrs. Swan! And thank you for representing us older brides!!

 
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I also would love to see more 30s/40s brides and 2nd time around brides here on Weddingbee… just to provide an additional perspective on the wedding experience.

Great post, by the way, Mrs. Swan!! You made a beautiful bride.

 
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miss sweden (message)  36 posts, Newbee

Thank you for this post Mrs. Swan! I will also be 31 turning 32 when I get married next summer and I can relate to most of what you’re saying. I live in Sweden though and here the statistics are a bit different. Average age for first time marriage here is 31 and 34 for men and women respectivly. Average age for first baby 29…..I guess it’s true that we’re the land of sin.. :)

 
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AnamCara (message)  326 posts, Helper bee

This is a great post. Like you I didn’t meet the man who would become my fiance until I was in my late 20’s (right after I turned 29) and I wasn’t worried - just curious who he might be and when I might meet him. I am blessed to have him in my life and we’ll be getting married a few months before I turn 33 and when he’s about 35 1/2. I don’t think I would have appreciated someone like him when I was in my early-mid 20’s. I was drawn to those guys with a bit of a swagger and a bit of attitude and FI probably would have been ‘too nice’ (awful, I know - what was I thinking!?) But with a few years and a little growing up I was in the right place when we met and so was he. And thankfully we’re on the same page when it comes to trying to start a family pretty soon after our wedding. It all works out, doesn’t it???

 
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BeachyBride2010 (message)  319 posts, Helper bee

Older = Wiser…. I think someone said that… hmmm maybe a million times? TRUE DAT

 
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proBM2008
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proBM2008 (message)  83 posts, Worker bee

Just forwarded this post to my friend who IMed me to complain about everyone getting married and she doesn’t even have a bf. (We’re 26) I’m sure it will calm her down a little. :-D Thanks!!

 
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@tracy: I”m 45, and will likely be closer to 47 when we get married. My sweetheart will be over 50. It will be my first marriage, his second.

One thing that may be different for me from younger brides: We are lucky enough to have a LOT of aunts and uncles. Given our ages and theirs, I’m thinking about locations in terms of all the hip and knee replacements, coronary bypass surgeries, etc. My main criterion is few or no stairs.

 
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Fabulous post!

 
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Mrs. Tulip (message)  615 posts, Busy bee

Re “I know that I am not the oldest bride/newlywed ever on Weddingbee” … I’m pretty sure that’s me! At least for the blogging Bees…. And I wouldn’t have it any other way. I couldn’t be the person I am today without the chance to spend my unfettered 20s and early 30s living abroad, going to grad school, and getting started in a demanding career.

I definitely had the moment of panic when I hit 30 and was still single. (Didn’t help that I got my first cat that same week!) But most of that was biological-clock related, and I’ve come to believe that all the biological-clock hype is WAY overrated. Since becoming accidentally pregnant at 37, I’ve noticed so many other women who became pregnant at the drop of a hat despite being 35+. Granted, a few anecdotes are nothing to plan your life around. But if it’s a big worry to some of the older brides, hopefully I can offer some hope!

 
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yogigal
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yogigal (message)  394 posts, Helper bee

Most excellent post! I love being a 30 something newlywed! A lot of my friends are still single and we are in the 32 - 35 age range.

Side note - saw your wedding featured on Eva’s blackfemale/interracial marriage blog. I got all excited and was like, I know her! Then realized, I didn’t really know you :)

 
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beaninca (message)  76 posts, Worker bee

I am 30, never thought of myself as an “older bride”, as it is quite the norm here in the SF Bay Area too. Nice to hear your perspective but now I really feel old.

I couldn’t imagine getting married at 26. I had so much fun in my 20’s and wasn’t ready to settle down until now, post graduate, and ready to start a family once we marry. It all worked out to be right for me.

 
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Great post. My story sounds a lot like yours — didn’t date much in my 20s, met my husband when I was 27, got married this year at 31. I don’t regret any of it.

I loved living on my own, and I learned so much about myself during that time. I am more mature, happier, and far more self-confident now in my 30s than I was in my early 20s.

That’s not to say that marrying young is bad, but living my 20s on my own was perfect for me.

 
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Anchorss Away (message)  4 posts, Wannabee

Gosh, in agreeing with beaninca…I didn’t think that 31 or 32 for that matter are considered older. In that case, I must be ancient.

 
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I just got married two weeks ago at age 37. I think here in NYC this is considered the normal age to get married, making Mrs. Swan actually a young bride! I know at age 30 I thought I was too young and had no desire to get married. My husband is six years younger than me, and he loves to tell me how much he appreciates the knowledge and experience of a woman, not a girl!

 


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Mrs. Swan Mrs. Swan, New York City Age and Occupation: 31, Legislative Representative Fiance's Age and Occupation: 33, Finance Guy Engagement Date: August 9, 2008 Wedding Date: August 2009 Venue: Battery Gardens About Me: I am an un-crafty but resourceful, Caribbean-born but New York-raised woman who's been known to analyze "Dancing with the Stars" and “So You Think You Can Dance”, buy stinky cheese, and use way too many parentheses. I keep lists for fun, am constantly daydreaming of my next international travel adventure (four continents down, three to go), debating sports (let’s Got Mets/Giants!) and dancing around my apartment to stay sane. I am excited to share our wedding planning journey as I hope to plan a streamlined, personal, and fun wedding with the greatest life partner I could ever imagine, Mr. Swan.
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