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Mrs. Joey, Seattle Age and Occupation: 28, Project Administrator for Public Health NGO Fiance's Age and Occupation: 30, High School History Teacher Engagement Date: June 24, 2008 Wedding Date: August 2009 Venue: Eastside Catholic Chapel and Lake Union Cafe About Me: I'm a Seattle girl through and through except for the fact that I don't drink coffee. I love my job most of the time because I get to travel and work with brilliant people who are trying to prevent Malaria. I love DIY projects of all sorts, cooking, and watching sports. I'd wear anything at Anthropologie and could spend all day on Etsy. I love to travel but shouldn't because I always get myself into unbelievable situations!
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OK, this is the last in the mini-series about lessons I learned and things I’d do differently. Let’s talk about photography.

A lot of people have asked me what I thought about the photographer we used at our wedding, particularly since we paid so little ($300) and I found him on Craigslist. I know I’ve said this before, but I’ll just say it again for the record: we’re not picture people. We LOVE photography and love looking at other people’s pictures, but our own? Not so much. I don’t think either of us are really photogenic. Mr. Joey has this uncomfortable smile, and I just feel uncomfortable. I think we have 2 pictures of us up in our entire 3 bedroom apartment, and both were taken while we were on vacation. The idea of spending money on pictures of us we wouldn’t have displayed in our home seemed silly to us.

So, the thing about our line of thinking we didn’t consider were A) that our parents and relatives would want a billion pictures of us, B) we did want pictures of the wedding for a small coffee table book, and C) we really wanted pictures of everyone and everything else. Would these considerations change our minds about finding a photographer on Craigslist for $300?

Not really. I think if anything, I would have made us spend more time thinking about what shots we really wanted and really emphasizing that to Jess (our photographer) early on — maybe even mentioning those edited shots in the contract. For what he was given to work with (us), the time he spent there, and for very little money, Jess did an amazing job. We do wish we had fewer traditionally posed photos together and more that were impromptu and fun. We do wish there were more of our guests and that there were more of us walking down the aisle as husband and wife, but those aren’t a huge deal because I know he was by himself and there was a lot going on.

This brings me to a little bit of advice about using Craigslist or other free vendors. If your vendor isn’t a friend or doesn’t have some sort of personal relationship to you prior to the wedding, I’d consider offering to pay a little something for the free service in order to get a contract put together. It sounds silly, I know, but it will keep you from scrambling at the last minute. We had a talented photographer offer to 2nd shoot our wedding which we were really excited about. Over a hundred people, 2 locations, and lots of anticipated wedding day madness made this seem like a good idea. We met with both photographers (paid and unpaid) a week before the wedding to go over schedules and shots we’d like. Everything seemed OK, and then a few days before the wedding, we got a note from our 2nd shooter saying she wouldn’t be shooting for us after all. I realized that she was volunteering to help, so skipping the wedding for a paid job wouldn’t have been a huge deal. Skipping it a few days before the wedding, however, made things a little harder. In retrospect, I would have tried to set up a contract with her that said something along the lines of, “If the photographer has to bail at the last minute, they will help find someone to second shoot at no charge” or something to that effect. It would have been one less thing to think about.

I think the last thing I wish I did or recommend that couples do are engagement photos, particularly if you aren’t comfortable in front of a camera, and preferably with your wedding photographer. I didn’t realize how hard Jess had to work until he sent us all the raw images he had taken. You name it, we did it. Eyes closed, looking in the wrong direction, hands in funny places, no smiles, odd looks, slouching — we got it all on film. Doing an engagement shoot with him and then going over the pictures would have helped some of that out. I could have told him to remind me to not slouch in pictures. Or we (Mr. Joey and I) could have reminded each other to focus only on the camera and not the other things going on. Also, I wished I had told Jess to be up-front with us when it came to styling. Whether it be to tell me to adjust my dress, add more lip gloss, or adjust Mr. Joey’s tie. There are some great pictures of us where my dress has gone a little crazy.

In the end, I’d stick with the photographer I used, but I might have sprung for a 2nd photographer. He gave us some great shots, and now I’d consider (in the future) hiring someone to really edit/enhance our favorites.

Oh, and never fear, we weren’t 2nd shooter-less. We had an AMAZING photographer shoot our rehearsal dinner, the after party, and 2nd shoot the wedding. If we had the money early in the planning, I probably could have been convinced to splurge (in terms of our budget) on her services.

Did you forgo engagement pictures? Were you OK with it in the end, or did you think it was a mistake?

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18 Responses to “Love in Grey and Yellow : If I Could Turn Back Time - Part 3”

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AmberWaves
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AmberWaves (message)  326 posts, Helper bee

I’m really glad you posted about this. We are taking our e-pics next week and I have been on the fence about doing it. Neither of us like taking photos and I don’t want it to be a waste of money. But you are right, I think the practice really will help us get great wedding pics.

 
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Mrs. Penguin
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Mrs. Penguin (message)  3,499 posts, Sugar bee

Great tips on hiring a newbie. Coordination seems to be key… they’re learning along with you! Even some great photogs have the same issues… lots of people don’t get all the shots they wished they did, and paid a lot more! Great that you had several shooters!

 
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Sarah

Our engagement photo was taken by the groom’s aunt in her backyard, with my camera. There were 3-4 shots of one (seated) pose, we decided which one had the best smiles, and we used it for the newspaper announcements, our website, and that year’s Christmas card.

The prolonged photo shoots that couples do result in many gorgeous photos that express their personalities, and get them comfortable together in front of the camera. I just don’t know what I’d do with them.

 
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Miss Moonbeam (message)  1,732 posts, Bumble bee

Thanks for the info. I got a less expensive photographer through craigslist as well and I’ll have to remember to tell them what I want. We sort of used our small wedding as the engagement session (for getting used to being photographed purposes). Can’t wait to see some of your pictures.

 
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Jessie516
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Jessie516 (message)  5,480 posts, Bee Keeper

Those are great tips. You know what, I didn’t get engagement photos and I had the same regret. I think it would have helped us work out a few kinks (like my slouching) if we saw all the photos from an engagement shoot BEFORE our wedding.

 
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kmcole

Thanks for posting this. We weren’t going to get engagement photos at first, but then I chagned my mind and talked my fiance into it.

We were even going to have 2 different photographers one for the e-photos in INdy and one for the wedding photos in FL. B

I lucked out though and found a photographer who would do both and travel to FL for a reasonable price.

Your post makes me feel like I am really doing the right thing. Photography is sooo important to me and I really want to remember all the details of my wedding events.

 
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miss longhorn
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miss longhorn (message)  236 posts, Helper bee

Thank you for all of the advice. As of now, we do not have a photographer booked yet, but we are planning on doing engagement pictures. I am hoping we can get the same photographer to do both, but I’m not sure.

 
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alohababy28
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alohababy28 (message)  466 posts, Helper bee

I am thinking of forgoing our engagement pictures because (a) they are studio pictures, and I am HORRIBLE at posed pictures (talk about an awkard smile)and (b) it isn’t our wedding photographer shooting them, so we won’t gain anything of his personality, sense of style, etc. The only reason we will probably do them is because we spent SO much money on the photography and so far their service has been terrible. I’ll only do them because I want to squeeze every last penny out.

 
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mary-alice-me
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mary-alice-me (message)  1,864 posts, Buzzing bee

I think this is a really good post, and not just for the contract idea. I felt the same way about my photos — what you said not being comfortable in front of the camera. I wish I’d brought some ideas ahead of time for “impromptu” or fun shots instead of just standing there smiling. Oh well.

Even though you put Cher in my head each time I read your recaps, I am loving these. I only wish I’d heard more like this before my wedding.

 
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mander411
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mander411 (message)  735 posts, Busy bee

I wasn’t going to skimp on our photography bc it is super important to me. I needed someone who CAN tell me where to put my hand, or fix my dress, and has creative ideas for shots bc I don’t want an album of “poses”. I found the perfect guy, and yes it is a lot of money but to me, it is worth it.

We’re doing an engagement session to help with all of the tips you mentioned.

 
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amariem25
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amariem25 (message)  3,733 posts, Sugar bee

Thanks for the great post. I have a photographer shooting my wedding that we hired off of craigslist, but for quite a lot more than $300. We already did engagement photos with him, and the ones he sent us turned out great. But I know we took like 5x more photos than that… the photographer said my FI closed his eyes in a lot of them, or the lighting was wrong. My FI doesn’t like photos at all! But I hope he can relax more on the wedding day.

I also just spoke with a friend who is breaking into the business and she is going to be a second shooter at our wedding. So maybe I should give her a list of photos too then? I was just going to let her do whatever, but maybe I should give her more direction.

 
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peachypear
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peachypear (message)  343 posts, Helper bee

Wow, I could have written this. We also didn’t have photography high on our priority list and went bargain-basement only to discover that we wished we had spent a bit more on a wedding photographer - not a ton more, but enough to get someone who does weddings full-time. We got some good photos, but I was disappointed by the lack of standard wedding shots, like us with our bridal party or me walking down the aisle (all photos we specifically requested). Our photographer definitely wasn’t accustomed to posing wedding parties or knowing what shots to get at a reception. We have a ton of shots of people chewing, but none of anyone having fun, for example. He didn’t even take a photo of our cake!

Oh well! It actually bothers me less as time goes by.

 
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tea
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tea (message)  7,263 posts, Bee Keeper

i really appreciate this series. it’s been a great help as i’ve been making notes on what to do and how to better prep for things. thanks so much mrs. joey! i forgive you for the cher images on the navy ship that are in my head now. lol.

 
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ChiDIY
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ChiDIY (message)  184 posts, Blushing bee

I loved this series… I’m learning so much!

we just had our engagement shots with our wedding photog. FI and i dedided early on that photography was one of the most important parts, so waaaaaay too much of our budget is going to this man. but we realised during the engagmenet shoot how important it was for us to do it- they are great, interesting, offbeat shots, and we are NOT comfortable in front of a camera. this helped us relax with eachother and solidify my confidence in our photographer. i now feel sure we made the right choice.

 
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Miss Elephant
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Miss Elephant (message)  6,177 posts, Bee Keeper

Thank you for this mini series! For me, it’s the opposite - Photography is the most important thing to me. We’ll be doing engagements with the same photographer for the wedding so that we can feel more comfortable in front of the camera. Can’t wait to see how your pictures turned out!!

 
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missvintage (message)  571 posts, Busy bee

thank you so much for this series of lessons learned, it has been so helpful. I always do not like how I look in photos, and we both often look awkward! I think you’ve convinced me to do engagement photos, I just need to sell the boy on it (He thinks they are stupid).

 
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Miss_Carmel
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Miss_Carmel (message)  316 posts, Helper bee

We’re doing our engagement shoot on the 26th and I haven’t even thought about things like posture…good post. You made this bride think.

 
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Miss Poodle
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Miss Poodle (message)  3,387 posts, Sugar bee

Thank you so much for sharing this! - This is really helpful advice!! :)

 

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Mrs. Joey, Seattle Age and Occupation: 28, Project Administrator for Public Health NGO Fiance's Age and Occupation: 30, High School History Teacher Engagement Date: June 24, 2008 Wedding Date: August 2009 Venue: Eastside Catholic Chapel and Lake Union Cafe About Me: I'm a Seattle girl through and through except for the fact that I don't drink coffee. I love my job most of the time because I get to travel and work with brilliant people who are trying to prevent Malaria. I love DIY projects of all sorts, cooking, and watching sports. I'd wear anything at Anthropologie and could spend all day on Etsy. I love to travel but shouldn't because I always get myself into unbelievable situations!

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