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Did you expect/consider to marry someone outside of your race/background/religion, did you do so? If so, how has it been more difficult/more interesting/etc.?

Relationship Series: Cultural/Racial Divide :  wedding features relationship series Poodle  Miss Poodle - I never thought I was going to marry someone that was not Chilean, just because I thought it was going to be harder to find someone with the same goals, beliefs, sense of humor or matching personality if they were not from here. To my surprise, when I met Mr. Poodle he was that and so much more, even though he still struggles with Spanish when communicating with my family. We have so much in common that it sometimes amaze me.

We might not speak the same native language but we have pretty much the same beliefs. We respect each others’ cultures and we have learned to enjoy the differences between us. We are really excited about raising our future children incorporating all the things we love about our home countries.

As a side note, I thought it was really funny that he got excited when I warned him about the fact that we kiss on the cheek when we say “hi“ here. He’s such a goof.

Relationship Series: Cultural/Racial Divide :  wedding features relationship series Parfait  Miss Parfait -I never expected to marry someone outside of my race.  I try to do everything by the books and (admittedly) will do anything to please my parents and grandparents.  Naturally, I thought this meant that I should find a nice Korean boy who could communicate fluently with everyone in my family.  His parents could talk to my parents; his grandparents could talk to my grandparents; and everyone would feel that instant bond of being from the same nation!

Of course, I went and found a Serbian boy who feels just as distant-yet-close to his heritage as I do to mine.  We grew up in the same town and attended the same schools.  Our grandparents taught us their languages and traditions when we were young, but school and friends quickly Americanized us.  We don’t share our race, but we share our background.

My grandma, who is really old-school traditional, told me that she’s happy that I’m marrying Mr. Parfait.  I was so… shocked and touched by that.  Although our elders may not speak the same language and feel that instant bond, she said that Mr. Parfait and I have a level of ease and comfort around each other that comes from our shared background.  I feel like my heritage is larger than me, and Mr. Parfait’s heritage is larger than him.  We’re both just well-loved kids who grew up in the Chicago ‘burbs, crossed paths in high school, and will end up getting married years later!

Relationship Series: Cultural/Racial Divide :  wedding features relationship series Joey  Mrs. Joey - I did expect to marry out of my race and background, but then, I’m an Asian mutt. :) It’s definitely been more interesting. My extended family is really, really, close and he hasn’t seen his cousins in 10 years. The dynamic between child and parent in my family is very Asian, i.e. they have an opinion on everything and I always consider it, while he doesn’t have that type of relationship with his parents. But he loves the cooking. :) It took him a year or so to get used to it, but now we don’t even notice the differences.

Relationship Series: Cultural/Racial Divide :  wedding features relationship series Lamb  Miss Lamb - I dated a guy outside of my religion before. I was heartbroken when it didn’t work out, but we were headed in opposite directions and we couldn’t agree on some fundamental issues. Since my faith is so important to me, I knew that the man I married needed to share that faith with me. Other than our faith, Lambster and I have really different family dynamics. Though we’re both born and bred Americans, the regional differences (my family from western PA and his family from NJ/NY) are really interesting sometimes!

Relationship Series: Cultural/Racial Divide :  wedding features relationship series Penguin  Mrs. Penguin - To put it bluntly, I grew up in a very Caucasian town, so I always expected to marry someone Caucasian, because that was what I was used to. The hardest part about being married to a Caucasian person is that I’m sort of embarrassed when I eat the cartilage (the knuckles) off of chicken bones or when I TOTALLY eat the fat on my steak (he cuts it off). Also, I feel bad when I heat leftovers up for breakfast and douse it in fish sauce, and he has to smell fish sauce at 9AM. I’m sure that’s not pleasant (I’m also not going to stop doing it). So… apparently it’s all food related culture shock things.

Holidays are much more important to his family, but most of it stems from the fact that his family is spread out through the country, so coming together on the holidays is important. We see my family a lot, so they don’t care about holidays (as in, they’re willing to celebrate Thanksgiving on a random weekend date in winter, rather than the actual date). This is convenient, but I think really bizarre to Mr. Peng. We have a very small family, so making up “fake” Christmas or Thanksgiving dates is not a big problem for us. Mr. Peng is always weirded out when I say it’s not a big deal if we don’t do Thanksgiving with my parents, because we can just do it the next week, or 2 weeks after actual Thanksgiving.

I can’t say it’s more difficult being married to Mr. Peng, because he’s very open to all our cultural differences and is really good at embracing my parents’ culture. I, too, have tried to integrate myself into his family with ease, but I grew up in a widely caucasian world, so I don’t think it’s really been much of a culture shock or anything like that. His mom always laughs when we go to her house and I eat her random leftovers for breakfast, though (think spaghetti and mashed potatoes and Easter ham all on one plate).

Relationship Series: Cultural/Racial Divide :  wedding features relationship series Peeptoe  Mrs. Peep Toe - As I have said before, Mr. Peeps is Jewish, and I am not. The good news about this difference is that it forced us to dig down and reflect on our fundamental beliefs. Which it turns out, are essentially the same—to live by the Golden Rule. In essence, to be a good person to others and to the planet. What has been most surprising is the cultural identity that Mr. Peep associates with being Jewish, which I’ve always been exposed to (growing up in LA will do that to ya), but now I am a part of. Overall, we’re making up new traditions as we go along, which I think makes us a much more interesting couple. Anyone want to come over for a Chrismukkah party??

Relationship Series: Cultural/Racial Divide :  wedding features relationship series Ramen  Miss Ramen - I had grown up with mostly Caucasian friends, so I guess I never really expected to marry an Asian guy, much less a Chinese guy… but I ended up with that!

But even marrying another Chinese person doesn’t guarantee complete similarities in culture; our families are from different parts of China, they all speak different dialects, different traditions are more important, etc. I think my family is a little more “Chinese” too, so I’m more open to foods like chicken feet, pig ears, etc.

Relationship Series: Cultural/Racial Divide :  wedding features relationship series Star  Miss Star - We are both from the same cultural (Caucasian) background, but grew up very differently. It has caused us to have to figure out where the other one is coming from in terms of eating style, travel habits, perspectives on the world… but I like that we get to pick and choose from what we liked about each others’ childhoods and the way we were raised, so that our kids get the best of both worlds!

Relationship Series: Cultural/Racial Divide :  wedding features relationship series Maryjane  Mrs. Mary Jane - I don’t think I ever really gave a lot of thought to the culture, race or ethnicity of a person I would someday marry. I would not have been against dating someone from a different background than my own, and I know my family would accept anyone (provided that he was a good man) with open arms.

What I definitely never expected was to end up with someone from my small, religious conservative rural hometown. When I graduated high school, I wanted to distance myself from that place as much as possible. I didn’t have the happiest time there; I just really didn’t fit in at all. In fact, when I found out that our boss was hiring Mr. Mary Jane, I was horrified because I knew he was from my town; we’d gone to school together. (I’d never spent more than maybe 20 seconds talking to the guy in my whole life, yet I already had a prejudice against him!)

Turns out, he had the same prejudice against me, for the same reasons. Though our families and life-experiences are still quite different, it turns out that we were more alike than we could have imagined! As Miss Star pointed out, it’s fun to talk about our different and similar experiences and hope to mold our children’s futures in to a best-of-both-worlds scenario.

Relationship Series: Cultural/Racial Divide :  wedding features relationship series Mascara  Mrs. Mascara - I had never really thought who I would marry from a race/culture/religious aspect. I would have been open to dating someone of a different background than myself, but that opportunity never presented itself since the mister and I have been dating since we were in high school.

We came from the same town, grew up with the same people, and the only real difference between our backgrounds is that I am Catholic and he is Lutheran (which really is not that huge of a difference). Has it given us less opportunity to blend cultures and make traditions of our own? Probably. But we share a lot of the same memories, we have similar relationships with our families (whom we are both very close to) and our expectations for marriage and starting our own family (how to raise our future children, etc.) are very much the same. So it works out for us!

Relationship Series: Cultural/Racial Divide :  wedding features relationship series Bruschetta  Mrs. Bruschetta - Like Mascara, I didn’t really think much about what my future husband’s race/culture/religion would be. I think I had it in the back of my mind that I’d marry an Italian — or a half-breed Italian, like me! — since I grew up associating so closely with Mama Bruschetta’s family. And in the back of my mind, I imagined I’d meet and marry a Catholic boy, but it was by no means a requirement.

Well, Mr. Bruschetta’s Catholic, but he’s also Irish; we have loud, talkative families in common. Like me, though, he totally embraces Italian culture (and cuisine)!

Relationship Series: Cultural/Racial Divide :  wedding features relationship series Cherrypie  Mrs. Cherry Pie - Mr. CP and I are pretty similar as far as religious and cultural background. We’re also both Caucasian. While I enjoy our similarities, I would also have enjoyed being with someone who came from a different culture, socioeconomic background, race, or religion. Variety is the spice of life, after all!

Relationship Series: Cultural/Racial Divide :  wedding features relationship series Mrsbeeblue.jpg Mrs. Bee - I never in a million years expected to marry outside of my ethnicity.  I’ve always lived in areas with very large Asian populations, so most of my friends have always been Asian.  When you share an ethnic background with someone, there are many things that you automatically have in common - food, language, customs, etc.  And because I identified so heavily with my Korean background, I always thought that I needed to marry someone from the same background for them to fully understand me. Of course I was wrong because Mr. Bee “gets” me more than any Korean boy ever has. ;)

Mr. Bee actually has a lot of ties to the Korean culture, so he can eat all of the funky foods I love.  I think loving/hating different foods can be a huge challenge in the day to day life of a relationship.  What if he hated kimchi?! OMG I would die.  Mr. Bee’s family actually lived in Korea when he was a very small child, and he even has a Korean sister!

I’m the first in my family to marry outside of my ethnicity, but I truly cannot imagine being married to anyone else.  If we were of different religious backgrounds, I think that might be a bigger hurdle to overcome than being from different ethnic backgrounds.  Luckily, neither of us is religious. :)

Relationship Series: Cultural/Racial Divide :  wedding features relationship series Swan  Ms. Swan - Well, I’ve talked a little bit about my experiences with Mr. Swan in a past post. I had dated both outside my race and cultural background much more than Mr. Swan had in the past. For a while before meeting Mr. Swan I had actually thought that it might be easier for me to date someone racially and culturally similar, and intended to do so. Then I met Mr. Swan and began to love who he is as a person. For us, I think being an interracial/intercultural couple has its moments, especially when our perspectives on things or our tastes are just plain different. Sometimes there’s a mild clashing, but the overwhelming majority of the time we enjoy learning something new and seeing a different way of looking at an issue. We have the added element that most of my family is not culturally American, so there’s a host of food, music and accents that Mr. Swan has to learn about and decipher. At the same time, I think Mr. Swan is enjoying being an honorary Caribbean person. :)

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What about you? Will you marry outside of your culture, race, or religion? How has this made your life interesting?

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Redeemed Rebekah
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Redeemed Rebekah (message)  618 posts, Busy bee

It didn’t matter to me about race. “Religion” aka Jesus loving.. (I don’t love the rap that the word religion gets- its not rules as much as love and a response to the cross) - Back to the topic!! lol. It was really important to me to share the same beliefs as my partener no matter the race. I love my FH encouragment and leader in our faith. It does turn out that he is Caucasian, like me.

 
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msmonicka
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msmonicka (message)  3,619 posts, Sugar bee

It was always a 50/50 chance that I would marry outside my race. white men have always been my preference. Not for any specific reason, just that I like them more. I have dated just about every race and have no problem with any of them. I just simply have a natural attraction to white men.

I’ve been dating outside of my race since I started dating so it came as no shock to me or anyone who knows me that I dated, fell in love with, have a child with and now am engaged to be married to my fiancee’ who is a white man.

It has been very interesting to see other people’s reaction to us. We constantly get stares and I’m at the point now where I’m constantly asking people “Can I help you?” when they stare. And then there’s the police officer who pulled us over because he thought my fiance was a Jon and I a prostitute…yea I said prostitute. Its sad that he would only associate a white man being with a black woman with prostitution. He repeatedly asked me how I know my fiancee’ and vice versa. The last time he asked I said “Look at me, do I honestly look like a prostitute to you, am I dressed like one? I have 2 college degrees, working on 3, I own a business, I(we) have a 2 year old son and I have a lawyer that’s promptly waiting to file a lawsuit against you.”

Needless to say we filed that lawsuit and won it for an undisclosed amount of money. What an idiot!

Dating outside of your race has been going on so long. Is it really so hard for you to believe that we’re together that you have to stare a hole into us both? I mean come on people there’s a big world out there full of people to love…who cares what their skin color is …as long they are good to you and for you. We are not living in the 30’s …..it is almost 2010…lets get over ourselves people.

 
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Miss Giraffe
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Miss Giraffe (message)  4,187 posts, Honey bee

I love this series :).
I don’t know if I planned on marrying someone with the same race/culture as myself, but I happened to meet him anyway!

 
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Miss Giraffe (message)  4,187 posts, Honey bee

@msmonicka: I cannot believe that happened! Some people are just so out of control! Good for you for standing up for yourself! I still just can’t believe that! Also, I think mixed race children are sooo pretty! It’s exciting to think that two people from different cultures can make something so beautiful!

 
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pam2899
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pam2899 (message)  29 posts, Newbee

my faith was the #1 important factor, like Redeemed Rebekah said “not religion” but faith in God and the morals and standards was what i cared about. I have dated outside my race before but MH and I are the same race.

 
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krissycake
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krissycake (message)  4,160 posts, Honey bee

Great post!

and @msmonicka: i’m so sorry you’ve had to deal with ridiculous, ignorant comments like that! kudos to you for being strong and presiding over that horrible situation victoriously!

 
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RoddyBride09
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RoddyBride09 (message)  2,961 posts, Sugar bee

What a great topic! I actually continued this topic on my own blog to write my answer…It is just too long for this :)

 
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JoesWifey
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JoesWifey (message)  2,195 posts, Buzzing bee

I never really imagined marrying outside of my race. It’s not that I wasn’t open to it, but whenever I pictured my life with a husband in it, he was Caucasian. None of my family had ever married outside of their race, so the thought just never really occurred to me. I especially never imagined myself marrying an Asian man because there were hardly any Asian people in my schools. The only ones I can ever remember were girls anyway. But, the world wide web sure changes things around lol It’s definitely harder I think than being in a relationship with someone with the same background. I can’t speak with my husband’s mother and father very well because they aren’t very fluent in English and there will never really be a get together with both sets of parents.

Food is a big difference between us as well, like Mrs. Peng said. My husband and his family love seafood, but it makes me gag lol His mom is always trying to get me to eat fish, and I’ll usually have a tiny piece to make her happy, but I cannot eat shrimp or anything. They tricked me into it once and hubby learned his lesson. This actually doesn’t cause us any problems though and actually works out for the better! If I order something and don’t like it, hubby eats it for me, and I often like the things he doesn’t like, so it’s win win lol He also likes to eat random leftovers. He’ll throw everything together and eat it. I find it gross, but I don’t tend to like leftovers much anyway so it works out.

Wedding planning was hard because I wanted to incorporate Asian traditions, but my sister in law wasn’t very familiar with them and I didn’t have a way to communicate with mother in law. Luckily she just kind of let us do our own thing. One Chinese tradition actually almost led to the postponement of our wedding though (death in the family). It’s also hard to have the in laws around all the time, which is a common Asian thing (they don’t work so we kind of support them. We can’t afford to give them the traditional “allowances” though).

In short, my life is NOT how I pictured it years ago (hello, I’m in NYC, not living in the middle of nowhere on a farm! lol) but I would not trade Mr. Joe for ANYTHING. He is an amazing man, despite our differences and I am just so happy to be married to him. I couldn’t have asked for a better husband!

 
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Miss Rainbow (message)  1,535 posts, Bumble bee

I love these series! Ms. Swan, i totally relate to you! I’m a whole mix of heritages (including caribbean) and my fiance is a 100% german, blonde hair, blue eyes, caucasion sensation. I was a bit worried about what he might think of my mom’s caribbean food, but he LOVES it! He can handle the pepper WAY better than I ever could!

 
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BrooklynBride10
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BrooklynBride10 (message)  756 posts, Busy bee

Growing up, I always thought I’d find a nice Irish Catholic boy, since i grew up in a very Irish neighborhood, and survived 15 years of Catholic school. I ended up with a nice Polish Catholic boy instead! I’ve actually never dated anyone of irish background. Culturally, our backgrounds are very similar. We both survived a million years of catholic school, and we both have families that are much more religious than we are. Our tastes in food are similar, although I come from a meat and potatoes family, and he comes from a kielbasa and peirogi family. I’ve come to love the homemade peirogis his dad makes!

My FI and I have known each other since highschool, so we pretty much grew up together and have a lot of shared experiences. We fit together really well!

The biggest culture shock for me has probably been moving from my very irish/italian/upper middle class neighborhood in manhattan to his very polish neighborhood in brooklyn. At least the food is cheaper and yummy, and our rent is cheaper!

 
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chelseamorning
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chelseamorning (message)  2,252 posts, Buzzing bee

I think I imagined being with someone who was ethnically and culturally similar to me, because I grew up in a pretty homogeneous place, so that was what was around and being modeled for me in my family.

Nevertheless, my husband and I come from really different geographies. His family is very southern (from Mississippi) and mine is Canadian (even though I grew up in the south, I am not nearly as southern as he is). I was worried that our families would have nothing to say to each other when they met at our wedding—but they got along great! It turns out they did have something in common: a farming heritage. Even though they all live in cities or towns now, they all grew up in the flat prairie countryside—some just a few thousand miles north of the other.

 
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Miss Spaniel (message)  6,809 posts, Busy Beekeeper

I’m mixed, and I never really connected with people from either side of my background. Partially this is because I grew up in a town that had very few (almost no one) from either. Because I grew up with nearly all Caucasians I sort of expected I would marry a white man (I will), and I never really gave much thought to his religion (my mom wanted him to be Jewish; I really didn’t care as long as he wasn’t *strongly* something else). So no real surprises, I guess–I expected to marry someone with a totally different background than me, and that’s exactly what’s going to happen!

 
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Mrs. Sushi (message)  1,480 posts, Bumble bee

Like Mrs. Joey, I’m a mutt, so it was inevitable that I’d be in an interracial relationship. Ironically, not only did I marry someone who was also bi-racial, but also with the same mix as me (Filipino/Caucasian..and the same caucasian mix too, German/PA-Dutch). Who would’ve thunk it! :)

Our moms (Filipino side) had very different experiences in the Philippines though. MIL had a very pleasent experience from the islands and a very grounded family upbringing, where my mom had a very negative experience (she grew up in a very dangerous part of the islands) and likes to separate herself from most Filipinos. So while I know more about our Filipino culture (mainly from living in Hawaii when I was younger), Mr. Sushi’s side of the family is more excited to share their culture than my family. It’s been quite interesting to say the least.

 
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yogigal
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yogigal (message)  419 posts, Helper bee

Great topic!

I guess growing up, I assumed I would marry a black man just like everyone else in my family. Actually, I always imagined myself with a Puerto Rican husband. I don’t know why, I just always had crushes on the PR boys at school :)

Then, off to college and I became the EEOC of dating. If you were cute and into me, I would give you a chance. Equal rights dating in full effect!!! :)

I can say that my last boyfriend before my husband was a horrible, white guy. I think for a bit after we broke up I decided, I should probably meet a nice black man, because the cultural differences can be too hard. Then I realized, he was just a horrible republican, who happened to be white.

Then, I met my awesome liberal, Irish-catholic husband. There was no turning back. I loved him from the start and can’t wait to change the world with him!!!

To be honest, I think our religious differences are harder then the difference in our race.

 
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mrspaetz
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mrspaetz (message)  3,805 posts, Honey bee

Nice series.

My husband and I are of different ethnicities and grew up nearly 9,000 miles apart, but we share so much in common, it was really mind-blowing when we started to realize how we found kindred spirits in each other.

unfortunately, because of the religious fervor of some of his family members (both of us are agnostics), it has made things trickier at times.

i believe no couple is truly “the same” as each other, even if they share the same culture/skin color/location. i wish everyone the best in working out their own issues! :)

 
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tea
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tea (message)  7,278 posts, Busy Beekeeper

i always thought i’d marry outside my race. in fact i wanted to so my kids could be even more mixed. lol. anywho, as a mixed kid myself, everyone i dated was technically “outside my race” unless we were the same mix, like the sushis! so while the boy is a little mixed [his definition, but we both share african american ethnicities] we’ll still be an interracial couple. we have our differences but that’s more personal preferences over anything else.

the only thing i wasn’t so willing to compromise was religion. because my relationship with God is first and foremost in my life, i wanted a partner who shared that feeling.

 
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interesting topic… Growing up, I was in the minority in a mostly Mexican town (I’m caucasian). I assumed I’d end up with someone who wasn’t my race (there were no other options!). Then I moved north for college to a more diverse area, but still my 2 more serious boyfriends before the fiance were men who weren’t the same race as I am. All my experiences with casually dating caucasian men were bad and I was about to swear them off altogether, but gave my fiance my one last chance at dating a caucasian. It worked out in the end, obviously since I’m marrying him. :)

 
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Minutiae
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Minutiae (message)  2,416 posts, Buzzing bee

Religion was the sticking point for me. I never really thought or cared about race and background, but having someone with the same fundamental beliefs was extremely important. It just so happened that I found a man who is similar to me on all counts! We’re two slices of American white bread cut from the same loaf. :P

 
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Great topic - I love that so many weddingbee members are in interracial /intercultural relationships!

I dated men with various types of ethnic backgrounds - Asian, African-American, white, Peruvian … but really never thought I would marry anyone (it’s so hard to meet the right person). Happily, fate proved me wrong & I married a lovely Chinese American man (I am caucasian).

Sometimes we run into cultural discrepancies - such as negotiating the level of family involvement in our daily lives - but, generally, we’ve learned to be consciously considerate of both our needs and our families’ preferences.

@msmonicka: what an awful experience. I am so glad you sued.

 
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A stranger once looked at my husband and I and said we would have beautiful children because we are “different-looking.” She was a white woman on a date with a South Indian man, and was on mojito #5 at that point, so I took it as a compliment! I think it’s a cute way to describe our racial/cultural differences… we have a wonderful, “different-looking” marriage. Great to see so many other different-looking couples out there.

 
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