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Mrs. Cowboy Boot, Santa Fe Age and Occupation: 25, Magazine Editor Fiance's Age and Occupation: 29, Artist and Whitewater Rafting Guide Engagement Date: April 28th, 2008 Wedding Date: October 2009 Venue: Devil's Thumb Ranch, Colorado About Me: I grew up in Los Angeles and have since lived in San Diego, Boston, Italy, Hawaii, New York City, and Santa Fe. I speak Italian and love pasta. My real passion is the outdoors, though. When I'm not at work, I'm snowboarding, hiking with my two dogs, mountain biking, surfing, cross-country-skiing, or boating New Mexico's rivers. Despite my boyish love for adventure, I'm a girly-girl at heart and am overly-excited to pull off the romantic, vintage-inspired, country wedding of my dreams.
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Someone once told me that the days before the wedding can lead to one of a couple’s biggest fights. The stress, the emotions, and the exhaustion all play into it. Well, it turns out that the Friday before the wedding was (almost) our day.

The morning after my bachelorette party was, well, not pretty to say the least. We were all “feelin’ it” but had to pull it together to make the drive from Denver to Tabernash, Colorado, which is about two hours along a windy mountain pass. I’d be dropping off Bridesmaid AC and her sister at Devil’s Thumb Ranch before meeting up with Mr. Cowboy Boot to go get our marriage license.

But, Mr. CB had a different idea about the day’s itinerary. He was already up in Tabernash and wanted to have lunch with some of his guys about an hour back towards Denver (the opposite way of the County Clerk’s office). The thing was that we only had an 8-hour window to get our marriage license (half of which was gone by this point) and, it being Friday, made it the only day to do it before the wedding. The clock was ticking.

I was about to go into bridezilla mode and mandate lunch be canceled but I forced myself to keep my cool. I told him to go, knowing that lunch would probably take longer than his two-hour estimate but that we’d still have a couple of hours afterward to get our license. I was hungover, exhausted, and not in the mood to argue. Secretly, I was dying to sneak in a nap and a shower too. So, I went into our cabin at Devil’s Thumb and did a little meditation to snap out of my bad mood. Take note, brides-to-be, this works.

Close your eyes, take deep breaths, and just let out some “Oms”. It will transport you right back to your last yoga class, where you were most likely uber-relaxed, and your humming will let your brain take a few breaths too.

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By the time Mr. CB got back, it was around 3:30 (a few hours after his estimate). I think he was relieved to find a happy wife-to-be as opposed to an angry, tantrum-throwing bridezilla. I was impressed by my ability to not be angry too, especially after he’d teased me by text during lunch and told me he wasn’t coming back to Tabernash that day. Heartless, I tell you.

We hopped in the car, drove the thirty minutes to Hot Sulphur Springs, where the County Clerk’s office is located for Grand County. There was no one in line, just a woman behind the desk ready to take our money and get our information. She took down our address, our parents’ names, and had us pay $30. Before handing over the license, though, she asked us a random question.

“Are you related by blood?” She said. Is that normal? Did those of you getting your license in NYC or less-rural places than ours get this question? We couldn’t help but laugh.

After asking us if we were inbred, she had us read a statement of intent in unison basically noting that everything we were declaring was true. She apologized because normally they have music for this part, but they were in the process of moving and had misplaced it. I’m so curious to find out what kind of music that was?

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In the car on the way back to the ranch, another hot topic came up: the bachelor party. It was planned for that evening and as of that point, they were planning on renting a limo and driving two hours (each way!) to Denver to find some bars and clubs. The area around the Ranch only has about two dive bars which weren’t up to Mr. CB’s guys’ standards* for this particular evening. [*Note: See Pengy’s post to understand why bachelor parties have to be humongous affairs.]

There was talk of strip clubs and while I know Mr. CB to be the kind of shy guy to sit on his hands at a place like that, it still bugged me. Nonetheless, I tried my relaxation method to, again, keep my cool. Somehow the conversation got completely blown out of proportion and we were arguing about strip clubs and trust and everything you don’t want to be arguing about two days before your wedding. I’ve never been to one, but my mind could only conjure up images I don’t want to describe here. And, thus, I had trouble being okay with it.

Lucky for me, we were able to evade this whole debacle because the limo idea got squashed and the guys ended up at one of the aforementioned dive bars in nearby Winter Park, and the only women there were the type “you pay to keep their clothes on,” the guys said.

What’s your opinion on strip clubs? Are you cool with your guy going to one for his bachelor party? Or does it irk you, too?

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60 Responses to “Love at The Ranch: The Day of Fighting”

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completelyrandomsally
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completelyrandomsally (message)  159 posts, Blushing bee

Personally, I would rather that he go to a strip club than the guys bringing a stripper to the house, but that’s just me.

His is the night before the wedding so we will see. I’m going to remember the yoga/meditation idea. :)

 
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Miss Moonbeam (message)  1,336 posts, Bumble bee

Eww, strip clubs, so glad it was just a guys night at a dive bar. Yeah! Marriage license.

 
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hannahmarie327
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hannahmarie327 (message)  20 posts, Newbee

I am from Colorado and we got our marriage license in Denver. They too asked us if we were blood related. I think it’s standard in CO.

Apparently you can marry your first cousin in CO though!

 
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krissycake
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krissycake (message)  2,092 posts, Buzzing bee

um all i know is that marriage license is a lot prettier and less expensive than the one we got in florida last week! ours looks like the most boring form ever, and is $97!

 
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Miss Lamb (message)  486 posts, Helper bee

The Lambster and I have talked about strip clubs and my feelings before. I could write a book about how I’m philosophically and morally opposed to it, but my woolly counterpart knows this already and I don’t think it’ll be an issue.

 
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Maestro
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Maestro (message)  188 posts, Blushing bee

Strip clubs make me queasy. I’m glad they’re not my fiancé’s style. You guys look so official with your marriage license, though!

 
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mrspaetz
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mrspaetz (message)  1,707 posts, Bumble bee

I’m not for it, but not against it either. Thankfully his best friend (and our bestman) wasn’t the kind of guy who would suggest strippers/stripclub, so they just went on a pub crawl, topped off with a reverse-bungee ride. Insane sane fun :P

 
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nhlchick4 (message)  234 posts, Helper bee

I 100% agree with completelyrandomsally, I’d rather have him NOT at someones home. My FH went to a party like that and with what was going on, HE had to walk outside.

 
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Mireya

We weren’t asked if we were blood related, but we did get a thick pamphlet on how to get a divorce.

 
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Lindsey

Thank you for the meditation tips! I think we all have it stuck in our heads that things will go a certain way and it doesn’t always work out… its ok to feel upset/angry, but how you handle it will be the true test! Congrats on handling it in such a mature way :)

 
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Miss Spaniel (message)  2,652 posts, Sugar bee

It irks me and I’m cool with it. I have no qualms stemming from FI being in a strip club–I not only trust him, but I know he’d find the situation more uncomfortable and weird than enjoy it anyway–but I do have problems with strip clubs in general. I think they’re exploitive and I wouldn’t want him participating.

 
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Gator
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Gator (message)  493 posts, Helper bee

Love this post! I have heard that some places ask for blood tests so I guess the inbred thing is a real problem in a few locales! Hehe.
Great suggestions for relaxing, I could probably learn to use them now :)

 
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Laylabelle
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Laylabelle (message)  1,957 posts, Buzzing bee

We were given four brochures on Aids. AIDS! With our marriage license!

 
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thefuturemrsjewell
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thefuturemrsjewell (message)  1,534 posts, Bumble bee

cute pic of the two of you with your marriage license! Yah! I guess strip clubs bother me too, but I trust my guy & know that a lot of his guy friends love strip clubs, so it’s kinda something I just have to brush off & laugh about… I mean it’s not like he’s going to go home with a stripper… so it doesn’t do much good to get all worked up about it… at least for me!

 
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redherring
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redherring (message)  350 posts, Helper bee

For my fiance’s bachelor party, I’ve given the Best Man four rules: (1) My fiance is currently STD-free (and no, we’re not talking save-the-dates) and I expect him to remain that way; (2) If they end up in jail, they’d best not need to call me for bail money; (3) No permanent debilitating injuries, but small scars are fine; (4) If they go to the Caribbean without me (fiance and his BM used to work down there and want to go back), don’t bother coming back :) As far as strip clubs go, I really don’t care. With bachelor parties, what usually happens is they bring the bachelor up on stage, and the dancers basically abuse him - they rip his underwear, beat them with their boobs, drop down rather forcefully onto his lap, etc. I don’t think it’s nearly as sexual as a lot of women fear.

 
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MissChirpie
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MissChirpie (message)  119 posts, Blushing bee

I think that strip clubs are so skeavy. I hate them. I’ve never been in one and my FH has only been once. I know his friends will take him to one for his bachelor party, and I kinda wish they wouldn’t. It’s so gross and cliche.

 
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Jessie516
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Jessie516 (message)  4,073 posts, Honey bee

I can’t remember, but I think the marriage license application asked if we were related or not. That’s kinda funny.

 
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kayakgirl73
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kayakgirl73 (message)  365 posts, Helper bee

I don’t like strip clubs. My FI and his guys just went to Dave and Buster’s.

 
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Miss Rainbow (message)  324 posts, Helper bee

Ugh, it totally irks me. I’ve been to a male strip club & a female strip club, and they’re TOTALLY different. For whatever reason, when women see male strippers, it’s about having fun and being ridiculous. Despite the fact that the guys are suited up in a thong, it’s SO not sexual, it’s funny. At female strip clubs though, it’s purely sexual. It’s not fun and light-hearted, it’s just gross. You can cut the sexual tension in there with a knife. Not exactly the environment I’d want my husband-to-be in.

 
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The way I put it to my fiance is, if I came home and found him on the couch with another lady’s boobies in his face, and he said, “it’s ok– I gave her ten dollars! And my friends are here!”… would it be so crazy when I got upset? And as for the general idea of celebrating an upcoming marriage by patronizing a place that exists as a place to demean women in general… not so much.

That’s why I’m against having strippers at bachelor parties. It isn’t a trust issue– I know that strippers aren’t angling to sleep with my man, and that he isn’t exactly itching to sleep with a stripper (pun intended?). It’s the idea that he and his friends are going to look me in the eye at the wedding and say “congratulations” after spending a night - and a lot of money - proving to each other that they don’t really see women as people.

 
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CupcakeSprinkles
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CupcakeSprinkles (message)  145 posts, Blushing bee

I dislike the massive discrepancy in bachelor/ette parties. Women: go have drinks and fun with our ladies. Men: have “one last chance” to see a set of boobs not belonging to their soon-to-be wife. Women approach the night as a party; men, as a funeral. It pisses me off.

 
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Miss French Fries (message)  745 posts, Busy bee

It irks me, and I have told Mr. FF that it irks me, too. He’s respectful of it, and while he’s going on an all-out bachelor party, insists that there will be no strippers involved.

 
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gibbysgirl21
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gibbysgirl21 (message)  123 posts, Blushing bee

I trust my man who didn’t even want a strip-club party, but I encouraged him to do it to have fun with his buds. Why not? It’s not like it has to get completely X-Rated. Either way, he was opposed to it.

It was us girls who ended up with the stripper… and it was so innocently lame that we just laughed about it all. HARMLESS.

PS- Also, some states require to get a blood test to prove you aren’t related. I’m not sure if we got asked about ours or not.

 
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I ABSOLUTELY agree with the first commenter: I’d highly prefer he go to a strip club than have a stripper at home. I’ve heard enough stories about at-home bachelor parties to know that a “stripper” at home could (and often DOES) end up being basically a hooker. At least at the club they can have fun and it’s not much worse than a night watching Cinemax.

 
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missvintage (message)  157 posts, Blushing bee

Thanks for your honesty and your tips on meditating when you feel the wedding stress come on. I’m sure I will be taking your advice.

 
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LatteLove
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LatteLove (message)  4,128 posts, Honey bee

it’s a very stressful time! Glad you guys got through it…it could only get better!

 
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jmc
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jmc (message)  476 posts, Helper bee

Strip clubs totally bother me, and we had a talk about it. I trust him completely, obviously, and I don’t think he’d be into it. But I do think the Best Man would try to schedule a strip club visit for the bach party, so we had a talk in advance. Even though I trust him and I don’t think he’d be into it, some other girl shaking her boobs in my man’s face still feels like cheating to me. That’s just how I feel (strongly).

 
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jmc
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jmc (message)  476 posts, Helper bee

@ cupcaksprinkles: Me, too! Well said.

 
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fiftyfootbride
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fiftyfootbride (message)  3,819 posts, Honey bee

Strip clubs make me nervous, not because I don’t trust him, they just skeeve me out. I think he’s going to end up playing video games. :p

 
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Mrs. Cowboy Boot (message)  261 posts, Helper bee

@jmc: I totally agree! That’s the predicament I was in with the Best Man being into it, even if Mr. CB isn’t. And I tried explaining that to Mr. CB about how I felt like that was cheating and he took it personally. Ugh. Blessing my lucky stars we didn’t have to deal with it in the end.

 
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Mrs. Penguin
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Mrs. Penguin (message)  2,149 posts, Buzzing bee

Mr. Peng definitely has a way with me when I’m stressed so he was really nice to me the few days before the wedding, but I had a HUGE blowout with my mom. The fights just seem to happen with someone when the stress levels are that high. As for strip clubs the only thing I don’t love is how expensive they are. But Mr. Peng and I don’t combine finances so that makes me feel a bit better about it. Lord, if he spent “OUR” money on strippers! I’d freak! But, it’s his money, and if that’s the event du jour for a bachelor party, I’m pretty fine with it… which is weird because I’m a very jealous person. I’ve mentioned this before but I have a bigger problem with Mr. Peng and friends meeting a nice, attractive group of girls out at a regular bar than I do with stippers. That would drive me nuts!

 
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skibobrown (message)  276 posts, Helper bee

I guess I’m ok with him going to a strip club for his bachelor party, but FI’s bachelor party is going to be at least a couple of months before our wedding, so I’ll have some time to get over it. I might be less into the idea of a strip club if the bachelor party was so close (in time) to the wedding.
Btw, CB, you were a picture of calm over the lunch in Denver incident. I would have totally been freaking out, and the argument that would have ensued would not have been pretty!

 
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tea
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tea (message)  2,659 posts, Sugar bee

they play music with the oaths? i want to get my marriage license at a small town like that!

 
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CupcakeSprinkles
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CupcakeSprinkles (message)  145 posts, Blushing bee

@jmc — Same here. I trust my fiance — I do NOT trust his best man and some of his more neanderthal [single] friends. At least the married friends attending his bachelor party have to go home and face their wives, which gives me a sliver of hope about the whole affair.

 
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West Coast Bride (message)  672 posts, Busy bee

Mr. WC and I are both of the opinion that bacherlor parties are for the groom’s friends, not the groom, whereas bachelorette parties are for the bride. To the groom’s friends, the bacherlor party is their last opportunity to have ridiculous, debaucherous, dumb guy fun before the groom’s life is eternally bound in loyal compromise to his new wife. It’s a figment of their imagination of course, it leads them to behave more immaturely that they have in years and it really is not meant to be taken seriously at all. I recognize some men, however, have super crappy single friends who don’t take relationships seriously and might actually put the groom in a position of infidelity, and to that groom I would say, “Get some new friends.” I know my husband, and how he feels about strip clubs and would honestly be more upset if they took him to a bar to flirt with, and pick up, real chicks to hang out with for the night. It was not an issue for us at all.

 
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Miss Backpack
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Miss Backpack (message)  17 posts, Newbee

I’ve been to strip clubs before and I must say the last time I was in one, the “bachelor party” came in and it was so disgusting! The friends of the bachelor picked out one of the strippers standing around, gave her some cash and pointed her to the bachelor. She then proceeded to put her crotch in his face and straddle his head with her legs. She stayed with the group for the remainder of the night, performing various acts on/for them. It was really over the top and seriously made me cringe for the poor bachelor’s fiance… Gross…

 
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Katie

I used to work at a strip club!!! As a waitress… It’s not as bad as you all think, I promise! My guy and I are probably going to have a joint bachelor/ bachelorette party and I’m sure we’ll stop by a strip club at some point, he’s never been to one before, so I think it will be funny to watch him and the awkwardness of having a naked girl shake it in front of him.

 
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sarah

normally i enjoy your posts, but you insulted the men of Denver (with pictures no less) in your last one and the women of Winter Park in this one. As a Colorado native, I wish you’d show a little more class. Sorry people here aren’t as attractive, or don’t dress to impress and wear makeup as much as you like.

Especially in Winter Park, they are too busy hiking, biking, and having fun to worry about it.

 
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Mrs. Cowboy Boot (message)  261 posts, Helper bee

@sarah: In no way was I generalizing about all of the men of Denver or all of the women of Winter Park. I was simply giving an account of my experience in the champagne bar and of what the guys reported in Winter Park. I’m sorry if I offended you–I would rather go without make-up on my mountain bike any day than wear designer clothes and be primped. Colorado gets nothing but love from me and those were just isolated incidences that, maybe, I should have tread more lightly on. But I wanted to convey the story accurately to the readers.

 
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LoriLori
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LoriLori (message)  237 posts, Helper bee

@sarah:

Dial it down a notch Sarah - I’m sure Mrs. Cowboy Boot meant no disrespect! No need to get your panties in a wad…..

 
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Ms. Mojito
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Ms. Mojito (message)  230 posts, Helper bee

First, let me praise you for remaning calm and resisting “the Bridezilla”. It is something I am definitely going to have to work on. Second, as pointed out, I would rather my guy go TO a strip club, having entertainment at the house is generally not going to end up well. My guy doesn’t really want to go to a strip club, but not sure what his best man has in store. It irks me a little, but not enough to make an issue of it. Thirdly, I found the post from your experience at the champagne bar funny and not at all disrespectful. Its not as if you were making a general statement of all the men in Denver….it was just a firsthand account. Love your posts and look forward to more!

 
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julesann
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julesann (message)  79 posts, Worker bee

I love female strip clubs!!! :) I think you should go with only him sometime! It’s fun. :)

 
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Mrs. French Bulldog
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Mrs. French Bulldog (message)  6,077 posts, Bee Keeper

Good job trying to keep your cool :)
The later strip club conversation wouldn’t have gone well w/ the French Bulldogs and I can totally imagine how a calm conversation could get blown out of proportion. I personally don’t agree with them and I know Mr Frenchie doesn’t really like them, but I can see him saying, “What’s the big deal?” and having wanted to go to one for his Bachelor party if that was what his buddies wanted to do.

 
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KathyQ (message)  134 posts, Blushing bee

I know a lot of people don’t see them as a big deal, but I think they’re demeaning and disrespectful to women. Also, I got married in Scotland and we had to sign an affidavit stating that we weren’t related (or under 16).

 
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mowi322
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mowi322 (message)  128 posts, Blushing bee

My FI went to Vegas for his bachelor party: my only request was that he come home in one, un-maimed piece (although I should have put a limit on how much he spent!) I knew that they would be going to a strip club, but it didn’t bother me at all. I’ve never really thought of strip clubs as these horrible, demeaning place where women are objectified and treated terribly.
Maybe it’s where I live and maybe it’s because I had a roommate who was a stripper for a while, but I’ve always thought that women who work in strip clubs know what they’re doing. They auditioned for, took, & go to the job every night. And they bring home some insane cash, too. If they didn’t like what they were doing, they’d quit (like my roommate eventually did).

 
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Mrs. Gloss
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Mrs. Gloss (message)  1,057 posts, Bumble bee

Ha, Mr. Gloss was totally on my s**t list the days before the wedding. Um, hello? - this is not social hour we have a boatload of stuff to do!

 
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alishaneva
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alishaneva (message)  1,532 posts, Bumble bee

I’m honestly not sure how I feel about strip clubs. They kind of bother me - and I think it’s a waste of time and money. And I know that one of Loverboy’s married friends absolutely is forbidden from them so I’m pretty sure I don’t have to worry about it - though I do. And there will probably be a fight.

 
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My husband thinks strip clubs and the whole stripper bachelorette thing is a little ridiculous…he’d much rather camp on the beach or have a BBQ with the guys and just chill. Can totally relate to the stress before the wedding thing though! We just process our anxieties very differently, I think, and guys tend to avoid stress they see on the horizon (’keep your head down and it’ll pass’) whereas I think we try and manage it more actively. Thank god everyone says that is normal, although it is so painful to be fighting with your love on top of all the turmoil of being about to get married!

 
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All Nighter? Oh yeah.Are you ready to throw a bachelorette party that your bachelorette will cherish for the rest of

her life? New York city never sleps…What a blast! Have a great choice for food and even better for dancing.We all

had soooo much fun. Can’t wait until I get engaged so I can do it again!Have agreat fun with bachelorette parties in New york

 
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Adriana26
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Adriana26 (message)  143 posts, Blushing bee

My husband has never set foot in a strip club and he has always maintained he never will. However, his best man said that he could arrange two strippers to go to his house as part of the bachelors. My blood started to boil as soon as those words came out of his mouth. My husband specifically said that he was not interested in strippers, but he didnt argue with his best man when he heard about the “house call”.

Call it peer pressure or whatever, but we ended up fighting over it that night. I was hurt and upset that he had double standards - no strip club, but yes to the skanks at his BM’s place. In the end, they cancelled those plans. Hehe.

 
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All Nighter? Oh yeah.Are you ready to throw a bachelorette party that your bachelorette will cherish for the rest of her life? New York city never sleps…What a blast! Have a great choice for food and even better for dancing.We all had soooo much fun. Can’t wait until I get engaged so I can do it again!Have agreat fun with bachelorette parties in New york

 
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KatieBug3017 (message)  1,434 posts, Bumble bee

That is hilarious that they asked you if you were related by blood! That would never have crossed my mind…

 
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Love at The Ranch: The Remedy - Weddingbee - The Wedding Blog

[...] solution to our day of fighting was to take an hour together and just relax. Once we returned from getting our marriage license [...]

 
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@ Meghan
I agree. I don’t really mind strip clubs, but I really think society has made it okay for a man to “cheat” at his bachelor party. Is there any other time where it’s acceptable that a naked woman sits on his lap, dances for him, and sticks her boobies all over his face? There are also touching lap dances where he can roam his hands all over her body. Is that ever acceptable? Well, to many, it’s okay because it’s his bachelor party. It’s such an excuse.

 
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alvina (message)  299 posts, Helper bee

I don’t think they’re right. A guy isn’t single when he’s dating you and he sure isn’t the night before his wedding! And those places are DIRTY. o_O

How come it seems like a lot of the time the groomsmen pick what to do even if the groom doesn’t want to?!

 
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Miss Poodle (message)  3,020 posts, Sugar bee

We have only talk about this once and Mr. Poodle said he would rather have a climbing/camping trip than go to a strip club, so that made me feel sooo much better, the thing is IDK what his best men and guys what to do, I’m a little scared, I dont feel comfortable with the thought of strippers around him

 
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[...] Followed by a rowdy bachelorette party that night. The next morning, two days before the wedding, we fought. Then, we made up. On Saturday, Mr. CB recuperated from his bachelor party while I hiked with [...]

 
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This was VERY helpful to see so many opinions of women w/r/t the bachelor party and strippers in general.
As a guy with lots of strip club and out-call stripper experience (over to the house), a lot of what you say here is true: it’s expensive, there is lots of touching, the girls are professional but fun, bachelors get abused, and peer pressure is a big part of it.
Certainly there will be disagreements over what constitutes “cheating” in a relationship. Lots of you think topless girls in thongs rubbing all over a guy’s lap, face, and hands would count - but in that environment, it’s what happens and it’s normal. Guys think of it as interactive porn whereas women imagine it more of an emotional connection style of betrayal.
To us, it’s nothing more than the exchange of money for attention/fantasy.
I don’t want my girlfriend at a male stripclub rubbing their packages, but when we’re there, it’s more like we’re bonding with our guy friends, doing something we all enjoy - women.
Knowing all of this is going to happen anyway, lots of guys feel pressure to lie to their partner to avoid all this fighting/hurt feelings. I don’t think that’s the answer either.
Your guy has been in the presence of strippers, trust me (next you’ll tell me he doesn’t masturbate). He’d much rather do that than pursue the attention of a flirty girl at a bar - something we have to watch you girls do in front of us a lot. So accept that it’ll likely happen anyway, and make it a safe thing you can talk about. We’re not going to kiss or have sex with another girl, but there might be boobs and we’ll have to look.

 
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shelliduke (message)  222 posts, Helper bee

it has been awhile since this post - but I got married the week after you in Grand County, and apparently they’d found their music. It was a little button that she pushed and then it played “Here Comes the Bride.” Kind of like the music you’d hear on a cheesey Christmas decoration. She kept pressing this button and it wouldn’t play, and I had no idea what she was doing, and wondered if she was recording us reading that thing out loud for some reason. Then this weird music started playing and I started laughing in the middle of reading out loud when I realized what the music was.

So that’s what you missed. Nothing exciting.

 


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