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Miss Pretzel, Seattle Age and Occupation: 32 Learning, Training, and Development Specialist Fiance's Age and Occupation: 28 Manufacturing Engineer Engagement Date: September 2, 2009 Wedding Date: July 2010 Venue: Catholic Church & The Engine Room at Georgetown Studios About Me: I’m just a thirty-something girl who never dreamed of weddings, poofy dresses, or ritzy receptions. I was born and raised in New Hampshire, went to undergrad and grad school at Purdue University in Indiana, had my career take me to Wisconsin, Atlanta, and then finally settled in Seattle. I am a rabid knitter, except recently, wedding projects have replaced my yarn and needles. I’ve been fiercely independent since the age of 2 and 30 years later I think my family and friends had given up on me settling down and getting married. Ironically, I had to go all the way to Seattle to find a boy from Purdue. We fell in love over Seattle Beers and cooking together. We love Chuck Taylor All Stars, holding hands, clever t-shirts, bacon, KEXP Radio, craft beer, buying local, cooking from scratch, gardening, mastering our new Gocco, and of course, each other. I love NASCAR, he loves Legos. I can talk like a Muppet and he can fit a whole McDonald’s cheeseburger in his mouth. We are a two reception couple, currently planning a brewery inspired bash.
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Bathroom Tears

October 29th, 2009 @ 3:25 pm by Miss Pretzel

It seems to be a trend. I didn’t elaborate in my proposal post, but the one thread that runs through Mr Pretzel’s and my engagement journey is that I will hide in the bathroom if I need to cry. Funny, I know. But I want to elaborate on it—because LOVE is not all fairy tales and perfect—and my perfect imperfection is that when my eyes start to water I retreat to the bathroom to have a good cry.

So here it is from the beginning. *Warning: it’s a long post!*

Before I started to date Mr Pretzel, I turned 30—this is not so much a big deal, but Mr Pretzel is 4 years my junior. Being 30 while he was still in his twenties, I felt like the “older woman” and I definitely didn’t want to be the “pushy older woman”. You know, Marisa Tomei in my Cousin Vinny with the foot stomping and clock ticking?

In our courtship I got to places before Mr Pretzel—I knew he was exactly what I was looking for and what I needed early on. I said I love you first, I knew he was the man I was going to marry first (or at least I thought so).

He always got to that same place right behind me, but it stuck in my head that I got there first and it made me a little self conscious *read I was really worried I was “that older woman”*.

It was that last one (realizing that he was the man I wanted to marry) that lead to my first bathroom crying incident. After a vacation with his family I knew he was the one whose hand I would hold in a nursing home but I didn’t dare say anything about it or bring it up. I wanted to be patient and wait for him to get to the same place before I brought the subject up. Plus, I really thought we should be together a full year before talking about marriage. So I didn’t say anything and neither did he—I assumed the thought of marriage had never crossed his brain (I greatly underestimated him). Fast-forward to Valentines day. I was getting a little antsy to talk with him about this, and while we were shopping (I think at Target) he got a phone call from his baby brother. FBIL Pretzel had just bought a ring for his then girlfriend and couldn’t wait to share the info with his brother. I was so happy for them, but at the same time, my heart felt heavy. I so desperately wanted him to bring the subject up. I wanted to talk with him about our future. I felt distant the rest of our shopping trip and fought back tears. When we got back to his apartment, I went into the bathroom and let myself cry. Silly, I know.

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I came out, tears streaming down my face, and Mr Pretzel held me tight and asked what was wrong. I told him I was happy for his brother but I was frustrated that he hadn’t even thought about our future (I assumed) and I wanted to talk about it, but I didn’t want to be the pushy older woman. He tilted my chin towards him and said, “you greatly underestimate me.”

This started our conversations about our future. He found it funny that I was trying so hard not to talk about it that I bottled it all up until it exploded in tears… in the bathroom. We laugh about it now, but coming out of the bathroom with tears streaming down my face was a big turning point in our relationship.

Fast forward to the day he proposed. My heart was set on being engaged while visiting my family in New England. I don’t see them often anymore and I wanted to celebrate with them. Mr Pretzel and I had already started the wedding planning—we had a date set, the venue, the photographer… it wasn’t a matter of “if” but “when”. I thought I knew when he went to buy the ring: an unaccounted for Saturday where we didn’t see each other all day. I also thought I knew when he picked it up: another unaccounted for Saturday right before our trip. I was certain that he was going to propose at the airport, or on the trip. But Mr Pretzel really wanted to surprise me, and thus he had to throw me off his trail. He knew I knew.

He started dropping hints to let me believe he didn’t have the ring. He started to indicate that I shouldn’t go into the trip expecting to get engaged – because I might be disappointed. He was so convincing that when he dropped one last hint at the airport on Wednesday, I was convinced—and crushed. I did a quick pat down of his person and then I knew—or I thought I knew—that he had not gotten the ring. I got mad and sad all at the same time. I was mad that he had “wasted” those Saturdays—the perfect opportunity to pick up the ring. I was sad that we wouldn’t be able to announce our engagement and celebrate with my family. I seriously could not look at him without being overwhelmed by those emotions. We went through security, sat down at the gate, and when Mr Pretzel went to sleep, I went to the ladies room to have a self indulgent cry (a short one). I straightened myself up and went back to the gate in time to collect Mr Pretzel and board the plane—where he promptly fell asleep again.

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Bathroom site of cry #2 on our trip- Midway airport

I tried to talk myself into getting over it. I didn’t want to land in NH and still be mad/sad. The self talk worked a little, but a few tears streamed down my face as we flew, and Mr Pretzel slept. In Chicago when we got off the plane, Mr Pretzel started to notice that I was upset. I scurried off to the bathroom, trying to get a grip on my emotions. After a short cry I tried to clean myself up, but my eyes were oh-so-red and puffy. I walked out of the bathroom into Mr Pretzel’s arms. I told him I was disappointed, upset and a little mad. He hugged me and smiled.

“I’m upset! Why are you smiling?” I asked.

He said, “If you knew what I knew, you would be smiling.” and squeezed me a little tighter.

My heart lifted a little, but I didn’t want to let myself even get my hopes up. It worked, though. I was calmer and ready to have a great vacation—even if we didn’t get engaged. So his plan had worked, although he didn’t foresee that I would get so upset and cry, he had disarmed my suspicions and primed me to be surprised. Later that evening as he was down on his knee looking up at my face asking me to marry him, I was so happy that he had thrown me off his trail. Bathroom tears—well, they are just my thing.

Did you have a hard time with your emotions before the proposal? Did you share it with your SO or hide your tears?

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39 Responses to “Bathroom Tears”

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Miss French Fries (message)  732 posts, Busy bee

Very much like you, I thought that Mr. FF was going to propose on our trip to NYC the summer we got engaged. He ended up not doing it then (he thought it was too predictable, and I guess he was right) and I remember crying at the airport when I realized it wasn’t going to happen. He promised it would happen, but I had to be patient because he wanted it to be a surprise.

 
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Miss French Fries (message)  732 posts, Busy bee

Oh, and he ended up doing it just 2 short months later (but seemingly endless at the time!).

 
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Miss Frozen Yogurt (message)  865 posts, Busy bee

Oh, I was so ready for him to propose. I would get dressed up for our date nights only to come home later, get in my pjs and be frustrated (ok, pissed) that nothing happened. Then he surprised me by doing it on a random weekday which I NEVER would have suspected (and he knew this)

 
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LatteLove
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LatteLove (message)  4,094 posts, Honey bee

I cried the time I saw my hubs before our engagement because he promised me we would shop for rings and then forgot.
How do you forget something like that in a long distance relationship?!?
i was a mess. cried for half a day.

 
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Miss Trail Mix (message)  1,073 posts, Bumble bee

Good god, I was the QUEEN of this!!! I think it got so bad that he actually decided to propose sooner than he originally intended just bc it seemed like every weekend, we got in a fight bc I would be so upset he didn’t do it!!

 
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Sage
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Sage (message)  398 posts, Helper bee

Ahh, the old bathroom cry. Yes, I’m a big fan. ;)

 
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tea
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tea (message)  2,616 posts, Sugar bee

so far i’m doing okay. the only time i got emotional was at a friend’s wedding who was also in an ldr. it was just kind of hard to see them figure out who was moving where while the boy and i were still negotiating!

 
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mariavvisa
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mariavvisa (message)  116 posts, Blushing bee

I LOVE that you used the “clock is ticking” bit from My Cousin Vinny.

 
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yogigal
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yogigal (message)  394 posts, Helper bee

I cried on Christmas, because he gave me so many hints that I just KNEW he was proposing on the night we celebrated Christmas. I was so dissapointed.

So, by time he proposed on New Years, I was completely surprised because after my christmas “let down” I had decided that I should just let it go.

@miss pretzel- when I first started reading and saw the picture of Midway airport, I thought what a horrible airport to propose in. Glad he waited until you arrived on your trip :)!!

 
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Miss Moonbeam (message)  1,328 posts, Bumble bee

Oh, I’ve had my fair share of tears, in the end, we just had a discussion instead of a proposal. Not terribly romantic, but it worked for us.

 
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NotSoPsycho

Thanks for sharing, but don’t you think you were just a but psycho aka ‘the crazy girlfriend’?!? If there’s one thing I hate about a lot of women these days is the pressure they’re all giving their SO to get married. Why don’t we just let it happen organically. Yes, we might know they’re ‘the one’ but we should wait for them to realize it too instead of guilting them into marrying you.

 
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lauralou852
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lauralou852 (message)  284 posts, Helper bee

Oh my gosh, I would cry without even knowing why I was crying. I was already excited for the proposal, but after I knew he had the ring, it was even worse! I’d cry randomly just because I thought he didn’t even care about if/when he was going to finally propose. (Ridiculous, I know.)

It didn’t help that we’d been together for over 5 years and his brother proposed to his girlfriend of 8 months 5 months before my FI finally asked. So I totally know where you’re coming from with the being happy for them while having a heavy heart at the same time!

 
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Miss Snow (message)  159 posts, Blushing bee

Oh, Miss Pretzel. I got a little misty reading this post. I felt the same way! We had passed so far beyond the point of needing to talk about the “m” word that we just pretended weddings didn’t happen (seriously, I would change the channel if a wedding popped up on TV).

What a relief to have a bawlfest and get it all out!

(And without tears, our fellas might still be wondering if *they* should talk to us about it…Aw.)

 
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HarleyQuinn
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HarleyQuinn (message)  69 posts, Worker bee

Thanks for being real! I know we can all relate to this in some form or fashion. I think its neat that Mr. Pretzel has been outside of the bathroom many times waiting for you to let him comfort you. :)

 
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redbullfanatic (message)  190 posts, Blushing bee

Been there! Our third trip to Maui. I felt like okay this is it this is the perfect time. 5 days went by and nothing. I lost it on the 2nd to the last night on the phone with my sister. Gave up. Then of course…the next night, our last night, he does it. Then I of course felt like a stupid girl. :)

 
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Stesse
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Stesse (message)  22 posts, Newbee

I, too, am engaged to a (gasp) YOUNGER MAN. And I’ve felt the same way - didn’t want to be pushy, didn’t want to hear the ticking, didn’t want to move too fast (because I knew that we would have a long life together regardless…). In the end it worked out. And it was both our ideas. And he totally surprised me with the ring.

And my next non-pushy moment will probably involve the “My Cousin Vinny” clip, ’cause that biological clock is tickin’, baby!

 
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Miss Pretzel (message)  333 posts, Helper bee

@NotSoPsycho: Absolutely not! I never guilt-ed him into proposing. I got overwhelmed with emotions, tried to hide them, and lost that battle. Letting out these emotions lead to very honest communication between us where I discovered he actually had been starting to think about the future and I really didn’t have any reason to have been “holding back” my feelings and hopes for the future. Being the “pushy older woman” was all in my head.

 
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Mrs. Penguin (message)  2,148 posts, Buzzing bee

I admit to crying a few times over not being engaged yet… unfortunately I have more of a “tears of rage” thing going on and I didn’t do it in private, either ;)

It is a weird feeling to want to cry after hearing someone else getting engaged, but I was totally there with you!

 
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Miss Pretzel (message)  333 posts, Helper bee

@Mrs. Penguin: I know! All the while I am getting mad at myself for being so silly as to get upset about such a joyous thing! I totally didn’t want to be “that girl”, oh well I own it- it is what it is.

 
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Miss Trail Mix (message)  1,073 posts, Bumble bee

@ NotSoPsycho- That is definitely NOT psycho to be upset when your boyfriend doesn’t propose, ESPECIALLY if you’re expecting it! It’s very hard for a lot of us to have ZERO control over a very important event in our lives and to not know when it’s going to happen or even if it’s going to happen is super stressful and pretty agonizing…I think that comment was a little agressive and judgey, personally…

 
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skibobrown (message)  260 posts, Helper bee

Oh the things that our men do to throw us off the trail! I’m sorry that it took some tears of frustration… but I’m glad it made you happy that he managed to surprise you in the end :-)

 
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llc2011
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llc2011 (message)  458 posts, Helper bee

I know how you felt Miss Pretzel! I started to lose it at one friend’s wedding that my FI couldn’t be at due to work and we texted back and forth at the reception and I got really emotional about when it would be our turn.

 
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dookie32 (message)  15 posts, Newbee

Haha- I can totally relate to this. 2 of my other girlfriends, still in their 20s (I’m 31) got engaged this summer, and I was starting to get really impatient. I didn’t want to seem like THAT GIRL- because I knew it was coming (I had designed the ring)- but one night I just had a total breakdown and started crying lying in bed. I know my FI just felt terrible because he knew he was going to propose a few weeks later and couldn’t say anything.

It’s hard when you are a woman and all everyone asks you is “when are you guys getting engaged???”- especially when you are in your 30s, have been together a while, and want to have kids. I don’t think men understand that pressure- they don’t talk about that kind of stuff with their friends and family like women do.

 
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Trisha

I am a daily Wedding Bee reader but I am not engaged. I pray I’m not the only one.

At this time in my life, your post is S.O. on point. I know he is the one (hence the slightly-premature wedding planning), but at each mention of marriage I get only enough to know that he plans on it, too. No mention of when. The PMS hormonies (shout-out to all you Big Fat Creek Wedding fans) induce my crying episodes almost monthly. Usually in bed. Pillow cases are far softer than bathroom tissue.

Thank you for giving hope to us readers who are hoping he likes it and wants to be a ring on it - but hasn’t yet!

 
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jeaninelovesyou
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jeaninelovesyou (message)  71 posts, Worker bee

ah yes. i had my meltdown moments for sure!

 
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Mrs. French Bulldog
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Mrs. French Bulldog (message)  6,063 posts, Bee Keeper

Hi, my name is Mrs French Bulldog and I cry in the bathroom too. I had a good cry when a friend of mine got engaged when I was waiting for Mr Frenchie to propose… I felt SO LAME!

 
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Cristina

I ALWAYS cry in the bathroom!!! Or locked in my bedroom. But when I’m in public or at someone else’s house; it’s the bathroom.

 
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Mrs. Mouse (message)  3,301 posts, Sugar bee

I love this story! I’m sorry that you were upset to the point of crying in the bathroom, but I love your honesty. And things worked out perfectly in the end!

 
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mrspaetz
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mrspaetz (message)  1,707 posts, Bumble bee

I don’t have sympathy for this because someone we knew wailed loudly in a bathroom when we announced our engagement, upset that her boyfriend didn’t propose to her yet, when they’ve been together longer than we have.

I agree with @NotSoPsycho that men/women shouldn’t be pressured to propose.

 
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Miss Pretzel
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Miss Pretzel (message)  333 posts, Helper bee

@mrspaetz: Interesting. Interesting indeed.

 
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Mrs. Lightning (message)  128 posts, Blushing bee

Aww Miss Pretzel, I know this process was complex for you and few would understand your fears and desire to marry and anxiousness when the engagement seemed too far in the future. Often one person will desire the commitment more than the other at first but it doesn’t mean a healthy push is bad either.

Sometimes it does just take a heartfelt, tear-filled moment to get a boy into gear.

If Mr Pretzel wasn’t interested he wouldn’t have proposed.

I think your account is honest and very few women would admit to the bathroom tears. I therefore applaud you for sharing (without fear) how silly we all can be in the name of love :)

 
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Mrs. Starfish
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Mrs. Starfish (message)  235 posts, Helper bee

I can totally relate. I did not do any bathroom crying but there was definately a point when I got anxious/excited about every single thing we did together… and then afterwards would be a little disappointed. FI tried to throw me off completely and I got a bit upset a few times since we had already decided on a time frame in which we wanted to get married and the time to plan was passing quickly. So it made me worry that maybe he wasn’t as sure as I thought he was.
@Notsopsycho & mrs.spaetz: She never said she pressured him she just had a minor break down a few times when things came up. If she was holding all that in all that time I can definately relate to how it built up and came out. First she did not cry in front of FBIL and his to be wife so she didn’t impose on anyones day. Second she never even demanded it of her FI at that point they just hadn’t talked about it and she needed to know. Third FI tried to throw her off by telling her she was not going to get what she had been expecting/hoping for… tell me you’ve never been sad when you were sure something was going to happen and it didn’t. So right or wrong FI played on her emotions and I bet he felt horrible when it made her cry.
Lastly BE NICE! She’s nice enough to share her story with us so follow the “If you don’t have anything nice to say….” rule.

 
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Elisa

I am definitely a crier but not good at doing it in private… once tears start to well up, I can’t do anything to stop them! I had been dating the bf for over 9 years (since high school) and we have had plenty of “talks” about getting married, but it seemed like nothing was going to happen soon. I was really good about it until year 8 of dating, then I started getting really antsy. It was suppose to happen, but when?! Every so often, a friend of ours would get engaged and I would be really happy for them but couldn’t help being upset. It was silly and I tried not to, but it’s hard because I so wanted it. Then at the end of last year, he suddenly planned about 4-5 random romantic outings where I was for sure it was going to happen! A day spent at the Finger Lakes tasting wine… a day hiking through Letchworth State Park with a packed picnic lunch (his idea!) and our camera with tripod in hand… another trip to the Finger Lakes to taste more wine… a second trip to Letchwork just to take pictures with the sunset… a spontaneous nice dinner date. Nupe… nothing. By the time we went on our trip back to NYC to visit family for Christmas / New Year’s, I was starting to get really frustrated. That New Year’s day would mark 10 years of dating… 10!!! Two days before NY, I told him how frustrated I was and felt like I was just going to be the eternal girlfriend… and cried a little. Well… it ended up being perfect! After a long night of bowling with friends, he thought it would be sweet to watch the sunrise into our 10-year anniversary day. We stayed up all night at a coffee joint, then trekked to the Brooklyn Bridge to watch the sunrise. It was freezing and cloudy, so while it was romantic we didn’t actually watch the sun “rise”. After we laughed about how we just stood in the cold on a bridge for nothing, he turned to me and smiled… then reached for a box! Yup… I cried…

 
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pvaulter718
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pvaulter718 (message)  1,593 posts, Bumble bee

He knows I’m an emotional mess, so we have had our share of me crying, and him laughing at how ridiculous I’m being… I’ve learned to talk things out more with him than keep them bottled up inside, and I must say, it has improved things ten-fold!

 
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bluebutterfly
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bluebutterfly (message)  605 posts, Busy bee

It’s so great to hear all these stories and to learn that I wasn’t the only emotional train wreck out there. The months before my proposal were sooo stressful and I cried many times. The trouble was I knew he had the ring (we had picked it together) and I was dying waiting. I even began to think he had changed his mind about wanting to marry me, which made me cry more. I was a bathroom crier too! Only I would cry while in the shower on the bath tub floor. Sometimes, however I couldn’t hold back the tears in front of him, like the day he told me he was bringing back the ring. At the time I wanted to curl up in a ball because I thought he changed his mind. In reality he didn’t like how me knowing about the ring added extra stress to it being a surprise. Then on the least suspecting day when I was just forgetting the ring existed he proposed. And what did I do? I laughed and cried and cried and laughed. I am a bit of an emotional crier at times and when I get stressed I just need to cry. I think my FI is finally getting used to it and he even thinks it’s cute.

 
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It was always a matter of “when” rather than “if” it would happen for us, too. We had been talking about marriage for quite some time since we moved in together, but imagine my shock when one day I looked at my phone and saw a text message from FH saying “Picking Mandy’s ring out this weekend, keep it quiet though”

!!!

He had accidentally texted this to ME when he meant to send it to his sister!!

We laugh about it now, but his face just went ashen when I showed him the text. We picked out the ring and he held on to it until he was ready to propose–and he did it at the top of Mount Blanc in France! Two wonderful surprises and I wouldn’t have had it any other way.

 
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Keeping Miss Pretzel Honest! | Weddingbee

[...] I won’t cry because he hasn’t proposed *FAIL! See Bathroom Tears! [...]

 
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I wasn’t expecting it because Garrett kept saying he wanted to pay for the ring himself and didn’t have the money yet. But, parts of me would think “we’ve looked at rings, we’ve figured out my ring size, this is going to happen soon.” I was moving to his hometown right after Christmas and my best friend’s mom said she thought he was going to propose then and that made me really excited. But I tried so hard not to get my hopes up. It was a nice mix of surprise and being super anxious.

 
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Miss Poodle (message)  3,020 posts, Sugar bee

Awww I’m such a big crier!! I can totally relate

 


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Miss Pretzel Miss Pretzel, Seattle Age and Occupation: 32 Learning, Training, and Development Specialist Fiance's Age and Occupation: 28 Manufacturing Engineer Engagement Date: September 2, 2009 Wedding Date: July 2010 Venue: Catholic Church & The Engine Room at Georgetown Studios About Me: I’m just a thirty-something girl who never dreamed of weddings, poofy dresses, or ritzy receptions. I was born and raised in New Hampshire, went to undergrad and grad school at Purdue University in Indiana, had my career take me to Wisconsin, Atlanta, and then finally settled in Seattle. I am a rabid knitter, except recently, wedding projects have replaced my yarn and needles. I’ve been fiercely independent since the age of 2 and 30 years later I think my family and friends had given up on me settling down and getting married. Ironically, I had to go all the way to Seattle to find a boy from Purdue. We fell in love over Seattle Beers and cooking together. We love Chuck Taylor All Stars, holding hands, clever t-shirts, bacon, KEXP Radio, craft beer, buying local, cooking from scratch, gardening, mastering our new Gocco, and of course, each other. I love NASCAR, he loves Legos. I can talk like a Muppet and he can fit a whole McDonald’s cheeseburger in his mouth. We are a two reception couple, currently planning a brewery inspired bash.
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