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Mrs. Spaniel, Los Angeles Age and Occupation: 28, Law Student Fiance's Age and Occupation: 29, Psychologist Wedding Date: March 2010 Venue: Calamigos Ranch About Me: I'm a third-year law student trying to balance graduating with starting my career, keeping up a relationship, and, oh yeah, planning an Old World, multi-cultural, "mountain lodge" wedding for 180 guests! A South Asian Jewish girl getting ready to marry my handsome Catholic Dane, I'm hoping to blend our cultures in our wedding just a bit more gently than by providing samosas as appetizers and offering æbleskiver for dessert. (Although that would also be awesome.)
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Choosing an Officiant

November 13th, 2009 @ 10:55 am by Mrs. Spaniel

For me, the most important aspect of wedding planning, after finding a venue and caterer, is selecting an officiant. This is particularly difficult for Mr. Spaniel and me because of our multicultural backgrounds, and MINE in particular.

So I was kvetching to my MOH that I wanted to have a “partially Jewish ceremony”, but there were five obstacles to finding a rabbi who could perform the ceremony: (1) I don’t really consider myself to be Jewish anymore (except culturally), (2) I am not joining anyone’s congregation, (3) Mr. Spaniel is not Jewish at all and will not consider conversion, and (4) we don’t plan to raise our children Jewish (um, except culturally… they will know their backgrounds, but we won’t be taking them to synagogue on the High Holidays or anything…), and (5) we’re getting married on a Saturday, and possibly before sun-down. I guess any rabbi who was willing to let the first four obstacles slide, though, would probably not be terribly concerned about the fifth! Wonderful helper that she is, my MOH offered to call on some of her connections (the rabbi who did her wedding, and people at the Jewish day school where she works) to see if she couldn’t find me some referrals anyway. I can’t even tell you how helpful it is to have a MOH who has already been married. :)

I know this would make my family happy.

I may have put some distance between myself and my religion, but Mama Spaniel has gotten really into it in the last few years, and the rest of her family certainly still thinks of themselves as Jewish. And even though my dad’s family members are all adherents of a different faith, I think they would appreciate the symbolism of a Jewish wedding, which shares some rituals in common with Islamic weddings. (In any event, they think I’m Jewish, and they wouldn’t be offended by—and in fact would expect me to have—a Jewish wedding.)

I’m not so sure about Mr. Spaniel’s family, though. Where my family is Jewish and Muslim, his family is Catholic and atheist. I’m not worried about offending the atheists since we’re not really planning to talk about god too much (and a certain amount of that is generally expected at weddings) But Mr. Spaniel thinks it might throw off his Catholic mother to have a rabbi perform the ceremony. I never would have thought that it would bother her, but maybe it would?

I’m just not sure who could do a wedding that was part-Jewish than a rabbi, unless it was a rabbi and someone else (and I’m not really keen on co-officiants for a 20-minute ceremony; it just seems a bit much). So I just assumed, when I told Mr. Spaniel that I wanted this, that he realized I meant I wanted a rabbi to do the wedding. I can’t imagine asking a “non-denominational minister” to perform Jewish rituals that he might not understand, or even know at all.

Obviously Mr. Spaniel and I will have to talk about this for a while longer until we come up with a solution, and maybe interview some officiants before we make a decision. I don’t need a rabbi if someone else can do the same thing. What I really want is someone who is able to understand the very complicated backgrounds we come from, our personal (lack of) faith, and be able to meld all of the interests of our families and ours together in a way that is respectful of everyone. Is that too much to ask?

Or we could just have this guy do it.

Does your wedding pose a religious conundrum? How are you deciding which religions to honor if you and your FI come from diverse religious backgrounds?

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Miss Moonbeam (message)  1,732 posts, Bumble bee

We’ve got a Catholic priest that is like what you’re looking for in a rabbi. It’s hard to find but hopefully your MOH can work some magic.

 
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Miss Pudding (message)  1,180 posts, Bumble bee

Religion is such a touchy subject. I breathed a sigh of relief when I found out that Mr. Pudding, who isn’t very religious, had had his first communion and confirmation in a Catholic Church. If we wanted to get married in my church and he hadn’t taken these steps in the past, he would have had to be converted (very much “My Big Fat Greek Wedding”, but Polish style). I’m interested to see what you guys end up doing.

 
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Gator (message)  607 posts, Busy bee

Our officiant is my aunt, I love her and she means the world to me. My fiance’s very catholic mother was not happy with our choice of doing a civil wedding. To try to find a happy compromise, my officiant aunt suggested that we have a non-religious reading from the bible or maybe have my grandfather (who is religious) lead the ceremony in the lords prayer. Asking your fiance’s family to incorporate 1 important tradition (do they have a common reading? or a candle lighting?) might be a great way to start things off on the right foot.

 
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ETwedding (message)  296 posts, Helper bee

My FI is culturally jewish too. We did not want to find a rabbi and try to convince them to marry us since I’m agnostic and he’s only culturally jewish - has barely gone to temple since his bar mitzvah. We compromised by creating our own ceremony and my cousin (who is Christian) is becoming ordained online. He’s excited about learning the Hebrew. If you want our script, I can post it somewhere.

 
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CorgiTales (message)  9,861 posts, Bee Keeper

We’re not of different religions (we were actually both baptized Lutheran which I find amazing because I don’t often run into Lutherans), but we have different levels of faith. I still very much consider myself Lutheran, although I no longer attend church services. My FI has distanced himself from the church and although he prefers to simply not talk about it… i would classify him as agnostic (he’s not certain there is no higher power… he just doesn’t know what that might be).

Because of this, my FI is very uncomfortable getting married in a church. This is a problem because my family very much expects us to be married in a church. Luckily my aunt is a Lutheran minister so we can ask her to perform the ceremony wherever it is, but the locale is still somewhat of a sticky subject.

 
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Miss Rainbow (message)  1,535 posts, Bumble bee

Oh man, I’m so glad that neither Mr. Rainbow nor I are religious, it all seems so involved! I don’t know how you ladies go about coordinating it all, especially with mixed faiths and whatnot! Good luck, I’m sure you’ll figure it all out and find someone perfect for you two!

 
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teaadntoast (message)  2,595 posts, Sugar bee

Maybe the Humanists? They can probably accomodate what you’re looking for (a mix of traditions) and won’t be in the dark as to significance of specific Jewish rituals.

 
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proBM2008 (message)  204 posts, Helper bee

Interfaith weddings are more common than religious ceremonies in my family. Most of them have had both a Rabbi & A Priest do blessings. When my sister got married, they had a JOP then our Rabbi bless the marriage and then my BIL’s priest bless the marriage. Everyone was happy. 2 or 3 officiants can be a bit much, but it might be worth looking into. Good luck!

 
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hergreenapples (message)  970 posts, Busy bee

We’re kind of unique in that we were both raised Catholic, but we’re getting married in an entirely different church. Basically it came down to us finding a church whose beliefs aligned with our own and that’s how we ended up at the United Church of Canada (a Protestant church). We met with our minister last weekend and couldn’t be happier with out decisions.

The Guy’s mum is very involved in the Catholic Church and isn’t overly thrilled with out decision (but is okay with it), but it really comes down to it being the right decision for US.

 
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katrina

Check out some interfaith ministers. We used Jeddah (as did my sister- who’s husband was jewish, she is greek orthodox). We are greek orthodox and chatholic. She’s in NYC- but might have a referral for you.

http://www.interfaith-ceremonies.net/

good luck

 
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Mrs. Mouse (message)  5,844 posts, Bee Keeper

If you can’t find a Rabbi, consider someone ordained by the Universal Church of Life. It’s nondenominational and they are usually willing to perform whatever kind of ceremony you want!

 
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UCLAMeghan

We gotcha on this one! :) I was raised Catholic, but have distanced myself (somewhat) from the church, BUT I do still have older relatives who are very involved. My fiance is Jewish and he’s in the situation I’m in with his religion. We went back and forth and back and forth…then we realized a 3rd option:

Have his collegiate coach (who is like a father to him since biological father is not in the picture) officiate. We have had long talks with him about all the kinds of things that you would speak to a religious figure about (marriage, love, faith, etc.). And between the 3 of us we are writing a ceremony that reflects us as a couple. Spent a lot of time with Google. Our ceremony is now a blend of both religions, some things that our officiant wants to say about us as a couple, and even some thing that we just loved when we were in the Google process (Ring Warming).

The trick is finding someone that you both can agree on and think will do a great job.

Good luck!

 
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Nicki

I am Jewish and my fiance is not and we are both not religious. However, I also wanted to have some of the Jewish traditions in my wedding, so we are having a good friend officiate (who was ordained online) and will work with him to incorporate those traditions into the very short ceremony. I hate to say that it will be very difficult to find a rabbi who will be willing to marry you with all those conditions. I think a friend or family member may be your best bet!

 
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Mrs. Quiche (message)  3,157 posts, Sugar bee

I think writing your own ceremony & incorporating the traditions from each faith that YOU want is the best way to go! You could consider having a close friend or family member become ordained and perform the ceremony, rather than a stranger. Just a thought - I love that you can completely personalize it!

 
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Miss Scissors (message)  7,343 posts, Bee Keeper

We’re getting married in a Methodist church. My family is Methodist, I’m sort of a do-my-own-thing-buddhist-methodist smush, and my fiance’s family is pretty much atheist. I’m also having a hard time trying to figure out what to pick as our officiant. We do have to have a Methodist minister, but I need to find one that works as well with our stuffs as possible.

*lesigh*

 
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KMSull (message)  6,442 posts, Bee Keeper

Our decision wasn’t really that difficult. We’re both protestant, but we’re different denominations. Not so serious, and since he is a minister himself, he has lots of friends who want to do the ceremony. The hard part is choosing who- people will get their feelings hurt over this and that will be so hard!

 
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KMSull (message)  6,442 posts, Bee Keeper

I forgot to add that I’m really excited about the church we’ll be getting married in- it’s the church that ordained him!

 
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Miss Root (message)  1,014 posts, Bumble bee

Have you tried contacting some Reform Rabbis? My FI is Jewish and I am not, and we are hopefully having a rabbi from a reform synagogue (we are not members, we just took an Intro to Judaism class there so that I could learn more about FI’s background) perform the ceremony. She mentioned in our class that she has performed many interfaith ceremonies in the past. The only thing she said she isn’t allowed to do is co-officiate (ie, officiate a wedding with a priest/minister).
Hope that helps!

 
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Celebrant Venus

Love is love, and one can’t predict who one will marry, let alone which religion the person belongs to. ‘Tis a shame that church doctrine would prevent a marriage from taking place… As someone who was raised Buddhist, i suppose it would make me ineligible to perform any Catholic rites, but as an officiant, i agree a plain old humanist / non-denominational officiant or a Unitarian clergyperson is your best bet. It’s YOUR wedding, in spite of what you mother or the church has to say. Find someone who will accomodate your needs. :-P

 
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pvaulter718 (message)  2,116 posts, Buzzing bee

My family is Quaker and his is Catholic. I wasn’t converting anywhere, so a Catholic ceremony was pretty much out of the equation for us.

We had a Judge-friend of ours officiate the ceremony, the groom’s sister did a religious reading of her choice, and we signed a Quaker Marriage Contract. It was a good mix of he and I, and pleased everyone except his crazy grandmother :)

 
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Mrs. Spaniel, Los Angeles Age and Occupation: 28, Law Student Fiance's Age and Occupation: 29, Psychologist Wedding Date: March 2010 Venue: Calamigos Ranch About Me: I'm a third-year law student trying to balance graduating with starting my career, keeping up a relationship, and, oh yeah, planning an Old World, multi-cultural, "mountain lodge" wedding for 180 guests! A South Asian Jewish girl getting ready to marry my handsome Catholic Dane, I'm hoping to blend our cultures in our wedding just a bit more gently than by providing samosas as appetizers and offering æbleskiver for dessert. (Although that would also be awesome.)

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