Register or log in —

Newer blog post
more in Blog
Older blog post
Newer blog post by Mrs. Ramen
more by Mrs. Ramen (oldest)
Older blog post by Mrs. Ramen
Mrs. Ramen's Picture
Mrs. Ramen, Phoenix Age and Occupation: 26, Optometry Student Fiance's Age and Occupation: 24, Industrial Designer Engagement Date: January 3, 2009 Wedding Date: December 19, 2009 Venue: Phoenix Art Museum About Me: I'm an SF-born, Seattle-raised girl, transplanted to Phoenix where I'll be getting married, and planning all the way from Orange County where I go to school (yes, it feels as crazy as it sounds). I loooooove Yogurtland, am slightly very obsessed with all things paper, am heavily addicted to wedding blogs, deeply desire a puppy, thoroughly enjoy cooking, cry when I watch (almost all) movies, thrive on solo car-karaoke, can't stop being sarcastic, am neurotic about taking pictures of almost everything I eat before I eat it, and aspire to travel the world. My super-talented fiance and I are attempting to DIY a majority of our massive (~350 guests) "clean & modern, yet romantic, but completely unexpected, with a teeny dash of vintage" wedding, stay within our not-so-massive budget, and somehow get a really luxe (but still fun!) look/feel at the same time. In music terms (since we're both really into music) think Coldplay meets Motown meets Kanye meets Sinatra.
About Mrs. Ramen

Trials and Tribulations…

November 20th, 2009 @ 4:05 pm by Mrs. Ramen

So I’ve got to warn you - this post contains some pretty downright frightening picture of me. Now, I’m not saying that I’m some kind of beauty queen, because I’m not - but I look very much not like myself in these pictures. Really. So… uhhhhh, don’t judge me? I could be the poster child for what NOT to do for your wedding makeup in the following pictures. And don’t any of you lie to me and tell me I look good - because I don’t!!! At any rate, let’s just look back on these pictures and laugh at the fact that this could possibly only happen to Miss Ramen. I still need someone to make this bowl of Ramen look delish!

From this…

Menya__


… to this!

DSC0365

So, I have had a total of 3 makeup and hair trials. Why so many, you ask? Because I have bad beauty luck? I don’t think my request is unreasonable - I just want to look clean, classic, fresh-faced, and natural. I don’t typically wear makeup, aside from the occasional (and I do mean occasional) mascara, eyeliner, and some Chapstick, if you’re lucky. (Check out Miss Parfait’s post for more Asian makeup inspiration!)

z206120

z20612001

z206121

1, 2, 3

The hair I want is more of a low, simple, and sophisticated, slightly romantic look. Think soft curls, lightly pinned up. Surprisingly, finding someone who could actually figure out what this meant, or even listened to me has proven to be a bit of a challenge. Rawr.

z20612101

z20612102

4, 5
I love Eva’s look in these 2 photos - so chic, sweet, and romantic!

z20612002

From the front, this is pretty much exactly what I want! The back is a little curlier than what I’d like… but it’s still so cute!

z157180

And the ever fabulous Miss Swift.

So let’s do a bit of a recap on what has happened to me….

Makeup Trial #1:

z205033012

I found a girl on Craigslist that does freelance makeup work. We scheduled my trial for the same day as my engagement shoot. She was actually freelancing at the Nordstrom in Chandler at the Smashbox counter, so I stopped by there for a *free* trial. The only bummer was that she doesn’t usually use Smashbox, so the trial was kind of not true-to-life. At any rate… like most Caucasian makeup artists that I’ve encountered throughout my life, she initially tried to make me look like I have double lids. Sigh. I realize that I’m quite Asian, and I know that I’m never going to have double lids unless I get surgerized… nothankyouverymuch. Anyways, after much prompting, we finally found a look that I liked (I left my inspiration pics in the car - boo). And we ended up wiping of 2/3 of the eyebrow darkening stuff she used. Scary eyebrows avoided = happy Ramen.

Anyways, while I really liked the girl and she was super nice and quite affordable, I felt like I could essentially have done my own makeup to the same level. In that sense, it was not quite worth it to me. (Granted, in the above picture, I probably had sweated off 1/2 of my makeup….)

doll-fa

link

What I DON’T want to look like….

Hair/Makeup Trial #2:

So, I decided that I needed to try out an Asian hair and makeup artist this time around. Again, I went to Craigslist, and found an Asian girl… but she ended up not doing bridals anymore, so she referred me to a friend of hers that she’s worked with, who does bridal hair and makeup. So, here come the realllllllllly fun pictures. Please brace yourself.

z206119

A blurry shot - but the last one of me looking normal.

z20611901

At this point, I was feeling good - like, “Woo hoo! I finally found my person!”

z20611902

z20611903

And from the sides, the hair wasn’t so bad… maybe a bit more body than I wanted, but eh, it was ok.

z20611904

… And then I saw the back. OK, don’t get me wrong - I know some of you will love this hair, but I didn’t. It was all tight curls pinned to my head, versus the sophisticated and soft romantic hair that I wanted. I talked about it with the stylist and I thought we came to an agreement of what I wanted versus what she had done. But it was at this precise moment that I started to see that she was kind of used to doing things a certain way and didn’t like to stray from her normal routine.

So…. I was OK. Until she started on the makeup…

z20611905

Notice the look of extreme panic on my face. This would be the start of the ugly geisha face, complete with extreme eyebrows. Seriously, whenever someone starts filling in my brows uber dark, I’m thinking, ‘what on God’s earth makes you think that could possibly look GOOD?’ No one has pure black eyebrows! And for reference, I had actually made her take off most of the eyebrows at this point. She kept insisting that it looked better this way.

And then… it gets better. So, after showing her my “VERRRRRY natural” inspiration, she proceeded to tell me why I should have darker makeup, for pictures, blah blah blah. OK, I know people keep saying that, and I agree - to a certain extent. But this… this was taking darker to a whole new level. I asked for neutral colors and got… a black eye. The stylist decided that it would be best if she did 1/2 of my face light “like I wanted” (and I use that quote quite loosely), and the other 1/2 darker like she recommended. She said I would probably like the darker side better…

z20611906

I’m sorry if this makes you cry. As you can tell, I wasn’t exactly pleased. The left side of the picture is the “natural” and the right side is the darker side, aka SCARY!

Not scary enough for you? Need a better view?

z20611907

Here’s a pictures with my eyes closed. Again, notice the unnatural darkening of my left eye? It literally looked like I got into a bar fight. Needless to say, I will not be hiring her, and am happy that that trial only cost me $25, or 3 hours in work-study equivalence.

Hair/Makeup Trial #3:

The Asian Craigslist girl actually recommended this other girl who does makeup and teams up with one of her friends who has a small salon in Glendale.

I was kind of an idiot and didn’t even get pictures of this, but let’s put it this way - Sister Ramen, upon seeing my hair said, “uhm, NOT worth it.” And FMIL Ramen told me to just do my makeup myself. Bah.

Overall, I would have hired at least the makeup girl, BUT both girls wanted $100 for travel. Each. For travel alone. Not including the actual service fees. If I’m going to be spending over $300, I was definitely just going to hire one of the best hair and makeup artists in the area.

new-fil

Again, what the Ramen does NOT want to look like….

So anyways, I’m back at square one. I really don’t want to spend more money on hair/makeup trials because with my luck they will probably be a waste of time and money. And did I mention we have 1 month until the wedding?!??!? Sigh. I have a Yelp recommendation that I’m going to try out. But if that doesn’t pan out… I’m not sure what I will do with myself!

Do you have any tips? Should I brave the waters and try doing it myself? Or should I splurge and go with one of those top-of-the-line artists?

Did any of you have multiple (failed) trials?

Tags: , , |   Link for this post | Share this post: retweet Share this post on StumbleUpon  Share this post on Facebook  Digg this post  Add to Kirtsy
Newer blog post
more in Blog
Older blog post
Newer blog post by Mrs. Ramen
more by Mrs. Ramen (oldest)
Older blog post by Mrs. Ramen
advertisement below

32 Responses to “Trials and Tribulations…”

1.
Brianalaura
Member
Brianalaura (message)  458 posts, Helper bee

Do you have anyone in your family or wedding party who is really savvy at doing their own hair and make-up? I’ve been thinking about doing things myself, and my sister is WAY more into make-up than I am, so we’re going to try out some stuff and see if I like any of it. At least those trials would only cost for make-up you might need to buy.

 
2.
Bee Icon
Bee
Miss Chick (message)  230 posts, Helper bee

I have had totally the exact same experiences. I really love Thi Cosmetics because it’s for Asian women. I have a lot of their stuff and they are awesome. They have bridal makeup looks too! This one is my favorite:
http://www.thicosmetics.com/vintage_romance.htm

I bet you can buy the make up and ask one of your more make up experienced friends to do it for you…or if you’re in San Francisco you can splurge for Thi herself! Before she got famous, she went to my sister’s house for a make up party and she was super nice!

Good luck with everything, keep us posted!

 
3.
Jesso
Member
Jesso (message)  270 posts, Helper bee

woah…sorry things havent been working out for you. i ended up doing my own makeup (since i really love makeup, and it was an excuse to spend the $ i would have spent on a vendor on new products i could keep instead!). if you go the DIY route, head to sephora and play around (or call ahead and make an appt for a free bridal consultation) i had multiple failed trials, and multiple “eh” trials, and in the end realized that i wouldnt be satisfied unless i did it myself. and it worked out great for me!

 
4.
Bee Icon
Bee
Mrs. Perfume (message)  1,729 posts, Bumble bee

First, I’m sorry for the trials of your trials. Second, I was in tears stifling laughter at the extreme panic face. I DO THAT FACE! You’re so funny and this was an entertaining read. Having said all that, I feel your pain. I ended up doing my own makeup. The lady at the Homestead made me look really tan and the time I went to the Mac counter, I had only one side of my face done and the eye, like yours, looked like it was bruised and the eyeliner was so extreme that I looked like crazy evil eyed wicked asian lady.

The best tip came from my friend: Do you make up yourself. You know your face the best. Just keep trying on new products/ways of doing things. I did a self-make up trial every day for three months leading up to the wedding.

I think we Asians don’t have to go strong on eyes (like with heavy liner). I think what helps for that clean look is an accentuated (not heavy) eye, sheer lips and a natural, but deeper than usual, flushed cheek.

Sorry for the long, rambling comment.

 
5.
jordynrose
Member
jordynrose (message)  380 posts, Helper bee

This post made me laugh! I’m sorry your trials were so rough.

 
6.
redbullfanatic
Member
redbullfanatic (message)  283 posts, Helper bee

I’m not going to lie…trial #2 is bad…what on earth did she do to your eyes and why does one eye have such a harsh line? Thank the lord for trials right? Could you possibly go to Shiseido at the mall for a trial?

 
7.
luli29
Member
luli29 (message)  1,413 posts, Bumble bee

lol

 
8.
Guest Icon
Guest
Ginna P

Dear ramen, I just had my wedding in the Phoenix area and I found hair and makeup from craigslist. INEXPENSIVE and good.The makeup artist charged $45.00 for full face, $35.00 for travel and charged my b-maids $25 for eye makeup (also she did the trial for free). The Hair dude also came to my home $ 35 for travel and charged $40 for updo’s He also did not charge me for trials(we had 2) I wanted a very natural look as well…and that is what I got. If you want their names and numbers and maybe see some pictures feel free to email me at ginnapenacastro@yahoo.com
good luck!

 
9.
missmountie
Member
missmountie (message)  32 posts, Newbee

i giggled throughout this post, sorry…
my favourite picture was “the face of panic” before the makeup trial.

its too bad you had such rough go at the whole trial thing.

i do agree though, i think i like the softer look, as oppose to tight curls…

 
10.
Member Icon
Member
irmango (message)  185 posts, Blushing bee

oh ramen… if only you lived in seattle. i had an asian hair and make-up gal that did a great job on my wedding day. she wasn’t cheap, but was sooo worth it.

 
11.
Bee Icon
Bee
Ms Potato Chips (message)  863 posts, Busy bee

Your panic face is priceless. Wow, that is some heavy makeup there. I haven’t done any sort of trial yet…maybe give it one more go and then just do practice doing the clean/fresh/sophisticated look yourself?

 
12.
Member Icon
Member
honeydew (message)  45 posts, Newbee

LOL! You reminded me of a similar experience I had! Why is it that the MUA want to make asian eyes like bat wings when they already are winged to begin with. I hated to do trials, bc if they sucked you just wasted $$.

Your post was the most entertaining of the day. GL on finding the right MUA. I would recommend you mine if you were in Chicago.

 
13.
Member Icon
Member
silverbuggy (message)  10 posts, Newbee

awww i feel for you. i had 3 trials myself! 1) elaine chou, 2) kelly zhang, and 3) jessica lee in ktown. I think jessica was my favorite, but not by that much and she’s a little too far. i ended up going with elaine. It was my first trial so I had no idea what I wanted and the eyes came out a little darker than I wanted, BUT I could tell she’s really good and can probably do what I want nicely. I’ve already booked her, but will be doing one more eye trial just to get the look right. As for Kelly, she was nice too, but I didn’t like her makeup base on my skin…It was a bit too pink and sort of cakey on my face.

 
14.
Guest Icon
Guest
Jenn R

Oh my gosh, thank you for letting us see your photos! My question is WHO did these ladies do up who actually liked that look???! Hilarious. Good luck in finding someone soon… I have a meeting with a makeup artist next week who is going to teach me how to do the look I want and then I’ll do the makeup myself. I hope it works!

 
15.
Bee Icon
Bee
Mrs. Mouse (message)  5,171 posts, Bee Keeper

You are funny, Miss Ramen! I’m so sorry you had such bad experiences. I think it’s probably best to do your make-up yourself. At least you’ll know what you’re getting into. Sounds like there is a definite void in the wedding industry for people who specialize in make-up for Asians!

 
16.
lopeze4183
Member
lopeze4183 (message)  86 posts, Worker bee

LOL, seriously though…. could they have gotten it more wrong?!! Have you tried the Shiseido counter? My best friend is Asian and they do some awesome awesome makeup! :) Hopefully you can find someone that can get it right!

 
17.
Guest Icon
Guest
Nicole

I had a bad hair trial in Phoenix, and then talked to a few people on craigslist but wasn’t overly impresssed. Then I found Helen at Salon Tru in Scottsdale - I highly suggest you try them out. I did a hair and makeup trial and loved it, and they were much cheaper than anyone else. Our whole bridal party had such a great time at their salon the morning of the wedding.

 
18.
Member Icon
Member
cama (message)  34 posts, Newbee

HAHAHAHAHAHA! I’m sorry but Miss Ramen you are so hilarious! Your pictures are priceless. We all know you’re going to look fab on your your big day! :)

 
19.
D.Marie
Member
D.Marie (message)  1,887 posts, Buzzing bee

I def agree about the tight curls and not liking the back. It just looks too uniform to what a lot of brides and bridesmaids do with the back of their hair. I do love the soft look of the front though before the makeup was put on! It just doesnt look like you and I cant believe from your very first photo to the very last that it’s even you. I would not have been happy because I dont wear makeup either…just some eyeliner and im ready to go! I wish you good luck the next time.

 
20.
KMSull
Member
KMSull (message)  6,140 posts, Bee Keeper

Wow… 3 strikes. And Your panic look was PRICELESS!

 
21.
ejs4y8
Member
ejs4y8 (message)  8,808 posts, Bee Keeper

OMIGOSH! You are gorgeous but that makeup is AWFUL! And yes, the curls are too tight. Pretty, but NOT what you wanted, so I can see your panic =].

What about sephora? Surely they get asians in there! Oh, geesh. I’m sure somebody there won’t try to give you extra eyelids. I hate that!

How nice of you to let us have a laugh at your expense =]

 
22.
Guest Icon
Guest
Colleen

Hello fellow Phoenix bride!
Have you looked into Allison Pynn? She is 100 for trial and 100 day of and she comes to your location for free. I have a friend who is Korean and she is a news caster in Chicago - so she gets her hair and makeup done all the time. Anywhoo - she is getting married in phx and had her trial with Allison Pynn and LOVED it. Which says a lot, i think, for a newscaster to be impressed!

I booked her for my wedding in march but have yet to have a trial. Just a thought!

Her website is makeupaz.com/bridal

Good luck!

 
23.
Bee Icon
Bee
Miss Cheeseburger (message)  557 posts, Busy bee

Aw Ramen, I’m so sorry it wasn’t what you wanted. I think your hair looks beautiful, but I know what you mean about softness and romance… and I hope you don’t mind, but I couldn’t help but chuckle at your makeup commentary. ;) I know you will find someone who will get it right or you’ll DIY and it will be wonderful!

 
24.
Laylabelle
Member
Laylabelle (message)  3,172 posts, Sugar bee

Aw, Ramen! I’m sorry. I had my hair done almost exactly as you wanted for my wedding and I have long, stick straight hair. She told me to wash it that morning but not use conditioner, then she put dry hairspray in it before using a huge barreled curling iron. Then she pinned those curls up on the side of my head (to the back). That were a little tighter than I wanted, but that’s so they wouldn’t fall out. It ended up looking similar to the first Eva pic and I loved it! Maybe suggest that the next person do the exact same thing? I wish you more luck with the next trial. Oh, and I also decided to do my own makeup after everyone made me look like a clown.

 
25.
Lillindy
Hostess
Lillindy (message)  4,992 posts, Honey bee

I am so sorry you are having so much trouble with this! I hope you find someone who gives you the look you want in the end! And I just wanted to say how much I love the picture of the “panic face!”

 
26.
Jessie516
Hostess
Jessie516 (message)  5,281 posts, Bee Keeper

I’m so sorry that your trials weren’t all you hoped for! Honestly, I was looking for something similar to what you got and I ended up with more of the tighter curls than what I wanted. My hairdresser is a friend, and she kinda did her own thing on the day of the wedding. I made my peace with it, but if I were in your position, I’d keep trying until you get it right!

 
27.
RecessionistaBride
Member
RecessionistaBride (message)  4,232 posts, Honey bee

I’m sorry your trials sucked! I can relate though… sometimes I think I’m better off doing my own hair & makeup! Our vision vs. the hairstylist/MUA vision is usually completely different :(

 
28.
Guest Icon
Guest
kbok

do you have a friend who does their own makeup that you like? i never wear makeup myself unless its for a big occasion (i have only purchased makeup for prom, homecoming, and a decade later, my wedding). however i had a friend in college who is great at makeup and i asked her to do mine for me. just like you said, she applied it heavier than i would’ve liked and at the moment on my wedding day i looked int he mirror and thought it was a bit heavy. but in the pics my face was literally glowing and it didnt look heavy at all. i also showed my friend the same zhang ziyi pics as a reference of the ‘natural’ but slightly glamified look. if my friend were in your area i’d recommend her but she’s not. good luck!

 
29.
Bee Icon
Bee
Miss Parfait (message)  1,074 posts, Bumble bee

You poor thing–I remember getting my makeup done for prom…..and having to wipe it all off (especially the eyebrows!) before heading out the door. What a waste!
At least you look cute in the before picture. : )

 
30.
Bee Icon
Bee
Mrs. Quiche (message)  2,447 posts, Buzzing bee

I think you should just practice a few times & do it yourself! :) You are beautiful, you don’t need all of that crap!

 
31.
FutureMrsKoontz
Member
FutureMrsKoontz (message)  151 posts, Blushing bee

I agree w/ Mrs. Quiche. Practice makes perfect. Just do it yourself!

 
32.
Bee Icon
Bee
Miss Cola (message)  1,496 posts, Bumble bee

Awww, poor Ramen! I’m feeling even more lucky to have found my stylist/MUA on my first trial now. Good luck finding someone who will actually listen to you (I swear it’s as if some wedding vendors are just deaf….hello, we’re paying you to do what WE want!).

 


You can also just...

Newer blog post
more in Blog
Older blog post
Newer blog post by Mrs. Ramen
more by Mrs. Ramen (oldest)
Older blog post by Mrs. Ramen
Visit our sister sites Project Wedding
Wedding Songs
eHarmony Advice
Dating Advice
JustMommies
Pregnancy Calendar
Fertile Thoughts
Infertility Support
Copyright 2004-2010, eHarmony, Inc.
 

Sponsors
Mrs. Ramen
Mrs. Ramen Mrs. Ramen, Phoenix Age and Occupation: 26, Optometry Student Fiance's Age and Occupation: 24, Industrial Designer Engagement Date: January 3, 2009 Wedding Date: December 19, 2009 Venue: Phoenix Art Museum About Me: I'm an SF-born, Seattle-raised girl, transplanted to Phoenix where I'll be getting married, and planning all the way from Orange County where I go to school (yes, it feels as crazy as it sounds). I loooooove Yogurtland, am slightly very obsessed with all things paper, am heavily addicted to wedding blogs, deeply desire a puppy, thoroughly enjoy cooking, cry when I watch (almost all) movies, thrive on solo car-karaoke, can't stop being sarcastic, am neurotic about taking pictures of almost everything I eat before I eat it, and aspire to travel the world. My super-talented fiance and I are attempting to DIY a majority of our massive (~350 guests) "clean & modern, yet romantic, but completely unexpected, with a teeny dash of vintage" wedding, stay within our not-so-massive budget, and somehow get a really luxe (but still fun!) look/feel at the same time. In music terms (since we're both really into music) think Coldplay meets Motown meets Kanye meets Sinatra.
Boards
 
Classifieds
 

Blog Calendar
February 2010
SunMonTueWedThuFriSat
31123456
78910111213
14151617181920
21222324252627
28

Weddingbee Bios
Wiki
More