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Mrs. French Fries, Milwaukee Age and Occupation: 27, Paralegal Fiance's Age and Occupation: 35, Investments Advisor Engagement Date: September 20, 2008 Wedding Date: June 2010 Venue: Ceremony: Catholic Church, Reception: Hotel Ballroom About Me: I'm a Midwestern girl who longs to live in a warmer climate (my feet would be happy in flip flops any day!). I love travel, impromptu napping, grilled cheese sandwiches, my iPhone, singing with reckless abandon in my car, and Mr. French Fries.
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Elements of Style.

December 2nd, 2009 @ 2:41 pm by Mrs. French Fries

My fourth grade teacher was notorious for informing us that “spelling counts!” every time we handed in an assignment. My senior year AP English curriculum included Strunk & White’s The Elements of Style (and incorporated weekly quizzes to test our knowledge of said “elements” and “style”). Admittedly, I’m kind of picky when it comes to spelling and grammar. Luckily, Mr. French Fries is picky about these things, too. I guess we are a perfect match in this respect!

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I know that I am far from grammatically perfect when writing on this blog, but in my profession, spelling and grammar definitely count. I equate these things to being a professional, and most of the vendors that we have talked to so far have communicated with us in a professional manner. That said, I’ve been through my fair share of “vendor dead-ends”, but the worst by far came when were looking for a wedding cake vendor.

I visited a local shop, and while the woman at the bakery was a very nice woman, she lacked severely in professionalism. She handed off cake samples to me, gave me her business card, and told me to email her for a quote when we decided on which flavors we liked. Simple enough, right? Um, wrong.

I took the samples home to Mr. FF and we figured out which ones we liked best. I promptly emailed her telling her which flavors we liked, the number of guests we anticipated, and how many tiers of cake we would like. And then… I waited. For three weeks, I heard nary a word from the bakery. I sent a follow-up email, and received a slightly apologetic email from the bakery a few days later. Not only was it annoying that they didn’t follow up with me in the first place when I gave them ample time, but the email that they sent was completely riddled with grammatical and spelling errors.

To give you an idea, “to” and “too” were confused regularly. The word “until” was written as “intill”. Capitalization and punctuation were completely absent. And, even though I had previously provided the number of tiers and number of guests to the vendor in my original email, the response lacked pricing information and asked us for our guest count again.

I chalked it up to someone not being very computer-savvy or a spelling-bee champion, but the email still irked me. The bakery had great prices, however… so I ignored the things bothering me and re-sent the bakery our information. I also asked about an online gallery link that was promised to us in the original conversation I had with the bakery, but it was never sent to us.

The next email that I received was even worse than the first. Again, there was no capitalization or punctuation to be found – the email read as one long run-on sentence. The “to”/ “too” confusion persisted. The words “people”,” “pictures”, and “morning” were spelled as follows: peolpe, pitures, moring. And the cake gallery link was not provided again because they claimed that our “fires wall” prevented the link from being emailed to us. (They described this as a “tiwce failed attempted”.)

At this point, I knew that we could not, in good faith, give our business to a vendor that puts absolutely no emphasis on professionalism in their communications with potential clients (no matter how good their prices). Mr. French Fries attempted to call the bakery to see if there was anyone else that we could work with, but they only had one wedding consultant (the woman I had been emailing). We continued our search and found an amazing bakery with even better cake (albeit with slightly higher prices). They were professional from the start, and it’s worth it to me to know that our cake is in good hands (quite literally!). I guess to me, professionalism (and spelling, like my fourth grade teacher said) counts!

Have you come across any vendor dead-ends in your wedding planning?

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Miss Lamb (message)  970 posts, Busy bee

Wanna start a club? I too have cut potential vendors based on several examples of poor grammar and writing. A hair stylist had about 10 problems on her web page and a caterer consistently spelled a local beer wrong, even after we pointed it out . . .

 
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Miss Snapdragon (message)  717 posts, Busy bee

Is it possible she had a learning disability? I have a client who writes similarly, but she told me upfront that they she has a severe visual learning disability, so we do a lot of things via phone. My brother has an auditory learning disability and is great with written content, but he has a lot of trouble formulating the content into something others can understand easily. He also does things via phone as much as he can. However, sometimes, people really just aren’t skilled in the English arena, as annoying as that is to people who are good at it!

I also think twice about doing business with people who have weak handshakes!

 
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Miss Sewing (message)  2,701 posts, Sugar bee

I have that same book. My employer gave it to me on my first day of work, lol.

Only one of my vendors has had problems in the writing department so far. Though since he primarily serves international couples, we’re giving his bad English a slide.

 
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Mrs. Moonbeam (message)  1,732 posts, Bumble bee

My florist didn’t write the best emails, but she was very nice and knowledgeable in person. I just find it hard to believe that people don’t know about spell check.

 
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Mrs. Mary Jane (message)  1,970 posts, Buzzing bee

My almost-florist really turned me off with her emails. Short/lacking detail, poorly written, and (to me at least) unprofessional. The fact that her business email was a hotmail address had made me wary; the content of the messages turned me off entirely.

 
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Miss Spaniel (message)  6,792 posts, Bee Keeper

I’ve also found myself terribly irritated with people who communicate like this in my professional life (largely because I’ve worked in fields where people should know better). But as much as it irritates me, I haven’t been able to let it keep me from working with wedding vendors. Not everyone has the same level of education as we do, or the same computer savvy. If they are good at what they do, I try to look past the bad emails and communicate by phone.

 
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polkadot (message)  218 posts, Helper bee

I’m a proofreader/copy editor, so these things irk me as well. Those emails would have driven me insane! That said, my very bright fiance has a learning disability similar to Miss Snapdragon’s client. He’s good at articulating his points verbally, but his written communication leaves a LOT to be desired. Luckily, he has me to edit important emails before he sends them out! ;)

 
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Mrs. Mouse (message)  5,844 posts, Bee Keeper

What concerns me more than the spelling errors (or more likely typos) is the fact that your questions weren’t addressed adequately, and the lag time in communications on the bakery’s part. But the typos may be a symptom of the bakery just not caring about their customers, or being too busy to take time to care. You’re better off without them!

 
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Ms. Min Pin (message)  282 posts, Helper bee

I think that people don’t realize that they should not write email like they speak…not that its an excuse! Even with non-wedding related things, if an email is poorly written or not even responded to, etc. or if the website is horrible, I will not give my money to that business…it isn’t a good sign of their customer service skills/competence.

 
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Miss French Fries (message)  2,218 posts, Buzzing bee

@Miss Snapdragon: @polkadot: I considered that there might have been a learning disability at play here. I didn’t write about this, but I attempted to communicate over the phone and in person with the bakery and this individual, but we were routinely told to use the email address and our phone calls went unreturned.

 
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SanDiegoAli (message)  3,076 posts, Sugar bee

I’m also wondering if she had a learning disability or another thought was that maybe English wasn’t her first language? I know for many people who are ESL the spelling of English words isn’t that easy for them.

 
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I wouldn’t judge too soon - She seriously may have had a learning disability or dyslexia, or something similar.

Have you read Penelope Trunk’s blog? Prime example of a very smart woman that has dyslexia, (and Aspergers. ) Granted, her writing is excellent, as most of of her dyslexia is numbers related - but some people who have dyslexia struggle with letters instead.

 
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polkadot (message)  218 posts, Helper bee

@Miss French Fries: Sounds like you made the right call then! Unprofessional. Sort of related - I’m hesitant to do business with vendors who have ugly websites. :/ Presentation is important!

 
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Miss Snapdragon (message)  717 posts, Busy bee

Sorry! Didn’t mean to start anything - And I agree with Mouse, to me, the bigger concern is the lag time. I lose my mind if a business contact takes more than a few days to write me back with even a simple “Got your email - working on it!” Communication, however works for the individual - is so important, especially in business dealings!

 
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Talishazwi (message)  1,444 posts, Bumble bee

I wouldn’t work with them either. Spending more is worth it for the peace of mind that your cake will be handled right. It’s too big a day to save a few hundred but an important element of the day is ruined. It’s not just about the spelling errors (which would irk me too) but about the lack of organization. Would your cake even get made and delivered that day?

 
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Miss French Fries (message)  2,218 posts, Buzzing bee

@Mrs. Mouse: @Miss Snapdragon: @Talishazwi: I agree! The spelling errors were irksome, but it was more the lack of follow through and disorganization that ensured that we didn’t book them.

 
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CienDragon (message)  124 posts, Blushing bee

@Miss Snapdragon: Out of curiosity why do you put so much emphasis on handshakes? I don’t mean to be rude but strong handshakes just aren’t important to me so I’m curious. I have OCD and for me shaking hands creeps me out, but I try to have a good handshake since I have heard it’s important to other people…

I don’t understand not spell-checking e-mails(though I agree that it’s really only one of the problems here), but it might just be that I always have the auto-spell-checker on so I see obnoxious red lines if I don’t fix things. ^_^

 
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Miss Snapdragon (message)  717 posts, Busy bee

@CienDragon: Well, for me, the people with bad handshakes are also not good business contacts. A seasoned professional knows that a good handshake is very important (good grip, solid eye contact.) It communicates confidence, maturity, and power in negotiating. I don’t mind people that don’t shake hands - to me it’s do it or don’t, but an in-the-middle weak handshake is a major business DON’T. If shaking hands makes you uncomfortable, than I would say just don’t do it! Unfortunately more men understand this than women, which stinks. :/ If somebody gives me a weak handshake, i know right then that I am going to get what I want because they aren’t exuding a tough, serious attitude.

 
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pvaulter718 (message)  2,116 posts, Buzzing bee

I’m glad to hear that you attempted to give the vendor the benefit of the doubt and attempted communication via phone as well, it shows that you took the initiative and followed-up repeatedly. When we are courting clients, I typically follow-up the same day or next with a written review of what was discussed, and ALL of my contact info and reassure the client that I would be more than happy to answer any questions, blah blah blah. Maybe that’s why a lack of follow-up irks me with vendors, because I know it doesn’t take that much time, just some slight organization!

Can’t wait to hear more about this great cake from your new vendor! Flavors, please!

 
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Mrs. French Fries, Milwaukee Age and Occupation: 27, Paralegal Fiance's Age and Occupation: 35, Investments Advisor Engagement Date: September 20, 2008 Wedding Date: June 2010 Venue: Ceremony: Catholic Church, Reception: Hotel Ballroom About Me: I'm a Midwestern girl who longs to live in a warmer climate (my feet would be happy in flip flops any day!). I love travel, impromptu napping, grilled cheese sandwiches, my iPhone, singing with reckless abandon in my car, and Mr. French Fries.

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