Newer blog post
more in Blog
Older blog post
Newer blog post by Mrs. Spaniel
more by Mrs. Spaniel (oldest)
Older blog post by Mrs. Spaniel
Mrs. Spaniel's Picture
Mrs. Spaniel, Los Angeles Age and Occupation: 28, Law Student Fiance's Age and Occupation: 29, Psychologist Wedding Date: March 2010 Venue: Calamigos Ranch About Me: I'm a third-year law student trying to balance graduating with starting my career, keeping up a relationship, and, oh yeah, planning an Old World, multi-cultural, "mountain lodge" wedding for 180 guests! A South Asian Jewish girl getting ready to marry my handsome Catholic Dane, I'm hoping to blend our cultures in our wedding just a bit more gently than by providing samosas as appetizers and offering æbleskiver for dessert. (Although that would also be awesome.)
About Mrs. Spaniel

Ketubah? Gesundheit!

December 23rd, 2009 @ 9:36 am by Mrs. Spaniel

Our current wedding-related mission is to find the “perfect” ketubah. That means two things: finding the artwork we like, and then hoping that it either comes with the text we like as an option or that it can otherwise be customized. The original orthodox text is actually written in Aramaic and transliterated into Hebrew (no English appears on the document), and is only signed by the witnesses and the rabbi—not the bride or groom.

On __________ [day of the week], the __________ day of the month __________ in the year __________ since creation of the world, the era according to which we are accustomed to reckon here in the city of __________ how __________ son of __________ said to this virgin __________ daughter of __________ ’Be thou my wife according to the law of Moses and Israel, and I will work for thee, honor, support, and maintain thee in accordance with the custom of Jewish husbands who work for their wives, honor, support, and maintain them in truth. And I will set aside for thee 200 zuz [traditional money], in lieu of thy virginity, which belong to thee (according to the law of Moses), and thy food, clothing, and necessaries, and live with thee in conjugal relations according to universal custom.’

And __________ this virgin consented and became his wife. The dowry that she brought from her father’s house, in silver, gold, valuables, dresses and bedclothes, amounts to __________ [100 silver pieces], and the bridegroom consented to increase this amount from his own property with the sum of __________ [100 silver pieces], making in all __________ [200 silver pieces]. And thus said __________ the bridegroom, ’I take upon myself and my heirs after me the responsibility of this marriage contract, of the dowry, and of the additional sum, so that all this shall be paid from the best part of my property, real and personal, that I now possess or may hereafter acquire. All my property, even the mantle on my shoulders, shall be mortgaged for the security of the contract and of the dowry and of the addition made thereto.’ __________ the bridegroom has taken upon himself the responsibility for all the obligations of this ketubah, as is customary with other ketubot made for the daughters of Israel in accordance with the institution of our sages—may their memory be for a blessing! It is not to be regarded as an illusory obligation or as a mere symbolical delivery between __________ son of __________ the bridegroom, and __________ daughter of __________ the virgin, and they have employed an instrument legally fit for the purpose to strengthen all that is stated above, and everything is valid and established.

How romantic, right?

Although the ketubah is sort of like the original prenuptial agreement and is designed to protect a married woman from abandonment by her husband, it’s not really a very egalitarian or progressive document by today’s standards. It seems more than a little inappropriate to Mr. Spaniel and I with this language, given our actual religious backgrounds. Luckily, there is a whole world of texts out there, from “Conservative” to “Secular Humanistic”, and most ketubot sellers have an option for completely custom text as well, which appeals to us a lot! It’s like writing your own vows, for people who are terrified of speaking their own vows aloud!

Anyway, I believe we’ve narrowed our ketubah search down to two beautiful ketubot.

Ketubah? Gesundheit! :  wedding ceremony religion Cfimg

Embracing Trees by Ruth Stern Warzecha, $200 (source)

  • Mr. Spaniel’s favorite
  • Trees!
  • Lower cost
  • Custom text ($135) and different sizes available

vs.

Ketubah? Gesundheit! :  wedding ceremony religion Cfimg201

Papercut-Ivory by Ardyn Halter, $245

  • My favorite
  • Traditional papercut design
  • Custom text available ($375-450)

Objectively, Embracing Trees, which I showed you earlier, is the better choice. It has a wider variety of texts available, and if we want to write our own text, it’s still relatively affordable. Mr. Spaniel also likes it better because of the natural imagery—what can I say; the man likes trees. But I cannot get the papercut ketubah out of my head! There are a few reasons for my preoccupation:

  • Look at how intricate the cut work is!
  • You could change the design any time you wanted by simply changing the color of the mat behind it
  • Deer are common decorations in both Jewish and Scandinavian artwork, which brings both of our heritages together into one beautiful and meaningful document
  • Did I mention how gorgeous that papercutting is?

Although it’s not Mr. Spaniel’s favorite, he’s considering conceding since he knows how very much I love it. But because it’s not just a digital print, it’s much harder to customize than his choice. Most of the egalitarian options that would have been acceptable to us are not available, and custom text costs up to three times as much on the papercut design than the tree one! It’s hard to justify nearly $700 on a piece of paper, no matter how intricate the cutting. :( So, the search may go on…

What do you think? Should we splurge?

Tags: ceremony, religion |
advertisement below
Newer blog post
more in Blog
Older blog post
Newer blog post by Mrs. Spaniel
more by Mrs. Spaniel (oldest)
Older blog post by Mrs. Spaniel

16 Responses to “Ketubah? Gesundheit!”

1.
Miss Pug
Bee
Miss Pug (message)  3,753 posts, Honey bee

ooh, that’s a tough decision. they’re both beautiful. let us know which one you pick, and also just as importantly, what text you choose!

 
2.
Gilneas
Member
Gilneas (message)  1,393 posts, Bumble bee

I saw splurge. Though if the tree (which is BEAUTIFUL) has custom text that you like more, I would go with that, because, in the end, I think the wording is more important.

 
3.
Bee Icon
Bee
Mrs. Hot Cocoa (message)  2,077 posts, Buzzing bee

I was lusting after the papercut ketubahs too, since papercutting was one of our themes for the wedding. Is there a way you can compromise by getting the aramaic text on the papercut design (thus not having to customize), and then frame it alongside a plainer ketubah that has your customized English text? Or if having a kosher ketubah’s not important to you, would ketubah.com or whichever company sources this ketubah allow you to get the papercut template as “mat” to frame your own text?

 
4.
artbee
Member
artbee (message)  6,643 posts, Bee Keeper

we have the papercut one! obviously i’m biased, i love it! it’s even more beautiful when it comes to you in person.

 
5.
artbee
Member
artbee (message)  6,643 posts, Bee Keeper

we decided it’s a work of art that you keep forever in your house, worth the splurge!

 
6.
Bee Icon
Bee
Miss Scissors (message)  7,343 posts, Bee Keeper

I used to like the tree one better, but now for some reason I’m on your side now. I just wish the customization weren’t so much more expensive!

P.S. It’s pretty amazing (for me) to be able to read the text! I’d never read it before, and it’s a pretty awesome document.

 
7.
Bee Icon
Bee
Ms Potato Chips (message)  1,193 posts, Bumble bee

They’re both great. I’d say if anyone is splurge-worthy, it’s a ketubah.

 
8.
Azinaugust
Member
Azinaugust (message)  1,651 posts, Bumble bee

I love the papercut because you can change it and because it links your hertiage. This was an amazing Ketubah post! :o)

 
9.
tea
Member
tea (message)  7,263 posts, Bee Keeper

that’s really tough. i really like the tree one but your reasons kinda swayed my decision. but this isn’t just some piece of paper…its your marriage contract. i think that would be worth a bit of a splurge

 
10.
Member Icon
Member
RAllise (message)  498 posts, Helper bee

Love the papercut ketubah, so pretty. We loved them as well but sooooooooo pricey. We were having a hard time too and found a FANTASTIC designer off of Etsy. She is AMAZING and love her. We are just finalyzing my parents hebrew names on the Ketubah and we’re done. She worked with us on artwork style that we like (Mackintosh) and wording and the 11 x 17 print is $85. Her work is amazing I cannot say enough wonderful things about her. She just had her Ketubah designs accepted into the NY Jewish Museum.

 
11.
Guest Icon
Guest
Melissa Dinwiddie

Such a tough decision. But I’d say this is a LOT more than just a “piece of paper”! This is a work of ART, symbolizing your commitment to each other, that will hang on your wall forever. Definitely worth a splurge!

 
12.
Bee Icon
Bee
Miss Guinea Pig (message)  1,377 posts, Bumble bee

Oh man, I love papercut art, so I’m definitely with you on this one. I say it’s worth the splurge :) It’s more than just a piece of paper!!

 
13.
Guest Icon
Guest
Moshe Mikanovsky

First of all Mazal Tov and lots of Hatzlacha!

The way I see it, this is not just a Ketubah or a contract, but also an artwork, and probably the most important artwork you will ever buy, as it has so much meaning behind it. It represents so much, and both of you should love it! It symbolizes your unity, home and family you are creating, and will be hanged in a central place in your house. True, couples always have different tastes and opinions, but that’s what makes marrige interesting - getting over the differences and finding something that both of you will LOVE and LIVE with forever.

Maybe there is a 3rd piece out there that you still didn’t find and both of you will just LOVE? A papercut tree??

goodluck
Moshe

 
14.
Mrs. Mouse
Bee
Mrs. Mouse (message)  5,844 posts, Bee Keeper

I’d say splurge if it’s what BOTH of you want, but I dunno if it’s worth the extra money since Mr. Spaniel doesn’t like it as much. The papercut one is so beautiful, though!

 
15.
Member Icon
Member
thebriz (message)  448 posts, Helper bee

We picked out a nice one and then my rabbit wouldn’t allow us the choice of wording - he wants the Aramaic, which is fine since I can’t read it anyway, but he wasn’t jazzed on the English I wanted. He’s kind of relaxed a bit but if I can’t have the ketubah be something meaningful for me, then why spend a ton.

So we looked and found an inexpensive one that still had a bit of style. If you are going to splurge and it’s the wording you want, go for it - without the ketubah, everything else is fairly meaningless. :) I decided, after careful thought, that I was okay not spending as much and still getting one I could live with and see on my walls every day. Incidentally, I like the first ketubah. :p

 
16.
Bee Icon
Bee
Miss Cola (message)  2,868 posts, Sugar bee

I really, really also like the paper cut one! But both are really great!

 

Leave a Reply


You can also just...

Newer blog post
more in Blog
Older blog post
Newer blog post by Mrs. Spaniel
more by Mrs. Spaniel (oldest)
Older blog post by Mrs. Spaniel

Visit our sister sites eHarmony
Online Dating
eHarmony Advice
Dating Advice
Project Wedding
Wedding Songs
JustMommies
Pregnancy Calendar

Copyright 2004-2012, Weddingbee.com
 

Find your vendors on Weddingbee

Real reviews from brides in your area!

Favors by Weddingbee

  • Favors by season

Shop Now »

Mrs. Spaniel
Mrs. Spaniel

Mrs. Spaniel, Los Angeles Age and Occupation: 28, Law Student Fiance's Age and Occupation: 29, Psychologist Wedding Date: March 2010 Venue: Calamigos Ranch About Me: I'm a third-year law student trying to balance graduating with starting my career, keeping up a relationship, and, oh yeah, planning an Old World, multi-cultural, "mountain lodge" wedding for 180 guests! A South Asian Jewish girl getting ready to marry my handsome Catholic Dane, I'm hoping to blend our cultures in our wedding just a bit more gently than by providing samosas as appetizers and offering æbleskiver for dessert. (Although that would also be awesome.)

Boards
Classifieds

Blog Calendar
February 2012
SunMonTueWedThuFriSat
2930311234
567891011
12131415161718
19202122232425
26272829

Weddingbee Bios
Wiki
More