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Mrs. Guinea Pig, Baltimore, MD Age and Occupation: 26, PhD student Fiance's Age and Occupation: 26, Operations Director at a non-profit Engagement Date: December 25, 2008 Wedding Date: May 2010 Venue: The Chesapeake Bay Beach Club About Me: I'm a tomboy science nerd whose girly side has made a startling appearance thanks to wedding planning! I love to bake, knit and sew but I also ride a motorcycle (that Mr. Guinea Pig wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole). We live with our three crazy cats and love to read, travel, watch movies, and do home improvement projects together! My parents/family are Canadian but I'm definitely American, although I've lived in 5 different countries, 6 different states, and speak Russian fluently. Mr. GP and I met online (did I mention I'm a scientist?) and had a whirlwind romance - now we can't wait to get married & celebrate with all our friends and family in a blue and yellow waterfront affair!
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When I was a kid in 6th grade, I used to play the M.A.S.H. game (Mansion-Apartment-Shack-House) with the best of ’em. We’d giggle over crushes, bemoan our poor luck in seemingly always pulling Shack, and be terrified at the thought of having 24 children (still am!). I was guilty of trying out my first name with boys’ last names, and sometimes even doodling them in notebooks to ’test it out’.

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This fascination though, only lasted until high school when I really started thinking about what changing my name would mean. College did nothing but confirm that I was uncomfortable with the tradition of women dropping their last names to take their husband’s name.

After Mr. Guinea Pig and I got engaged, I was giving my phone number to one of his friends when she said, “Shoot, what’s your last name? Nevermind, I’ll just go ahead and put you in as {my first name, Mr. Guinea Pig’s last name} - how exciting!”

Um, exciting?

That’s not quite what I was thinking. More along the lines of, ‘oh crap, you just assumed I’m changing my name, and I’m kind of angry about that right now but I can’t say anything because everyone’s smiling at me and making “awww” noises.’ When I talked to Mr. GP about this later, he got quiet and asked, “You’re not changing your name?” Cue the doom music.

It turns out, Mr. GP has fairly strong feelings about this - and they are the opposite of what I expected, I’ll be honest. Mr. Guinea Pig really wants me to change my name. Enough so that he asked me to change it despite having just heard that I did not want to.

At first, I was horrified. For every one of his reasons for me to change my name I countered with what I thought was a better reason not to. Including the fact that as a scientist, my name is pretty much my career - every paper I publish is linked to my name (obviously). In addition to this, there is a lot of pressure from colleagues and even expectations from my advisor that changing my name would mean I’m not a strong female/feminist scientist. Ugh. I hate this expectation just as much as the belief that a woman should change her name, maybe even more, because isn’t feminism about giving women a choice?! (Thank you Miss Pencils!)

One of my main reasons though, was that my mom, dad, sister and I are pretty tight and my name ties me to them. Mr. Guinea Pig took this argument to mean that I would rather stay associated with my parents & sister for the rest of my life than change my name and be associated with him after marrying him. Huh. I hadn’t thought of that. In fact, in particular it associates me with my dad, whose last name we all have. In being all ’no taking the man’s name!’, I never considered that keeping my last name is just clinging to another man’s (my father’s) last name (not that I don’t love you, dad).

Mr. Guinea Pig’s argument is that he wants us to be a family, united by one last name - especially if we have kids. I said if it was just having one last name he was worried about, he could go ahead and change his last name to mine! That didn’t convince him. Another option I tried was combining our last names (I am completely opposed to hyphenating for some reason), which could be done to hilarious effect. As we both have Irish last names, it would be possible to combine them into a sort-of-funny-but-not-unreasonable new Irish sounding name.

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However, Mr. Guinea Pig is unwilling to change his name because he’s a “Jr” - if he changes his name, he’s no longer a “Jr” as he wouldn’t have the same name as his father anymore.

All this to say, I have no idea what I’m doing. No matter what, I will be disappointing someone, and it’s hard to make a decision with that kind of pressure. Especially when I’m not even sure what I want anymore. Mr. Guinea Pig has repeated many times that although he wants me to change my name, it is my decision to make (duh, it’s my name!) and he’ll obviously love me no matter what I decide. One option I’m considering is to keep my maiden name in science while using his name socially (people assume this anyway). If I did this I’d want to have both names legally be my last name, I think. Maybe we should use Mrs. D’orsay’s method and play Rock Paper Scissors to choose?!

Did you add your husband’s last name to your last name (with no hyphen)?  What are your reasons for changing/not changing your name? Do you hate hearing people waffle about this decision?

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Arachna

That’s hard. Though I don’t see why him no longer being a Jr. is more traumatic then you no longer being a Guinea Pig. IMO (and I understand your mileage will vary) if he isn’t willing to change his name to have the same name as you than having the same last name is not that important to him.

Just a note on the argument that keeping your name is just clinging to another man’s name - your fathers. That’s just as true for you FI, it’s not his name it’s his fathers! Or if he gets to own his own name then so do you and it’s not your fathers name it is yours. I hate the idea that only men are allowed to own their own names but a woman always has a ‘man’s’ name when no one tries to tell a man that their name isn’t theirs.

 
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Ms Potato Chips (message)  1,193 posts, Bumble bee

I, for one, don’t buy that having the same last name would make us feel more “united” or like a family. We’re a family either way. In the end, you have to do what feels right for YOU, no matter what anyone else thinks. Go with your gut!

 
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Miss Spaniel (message)  6,792 posts, Bee Keeper

I decided to change my name, but not without a great deal of hemming and hawing and generally being pissed off about it (which, frankly, I still am). If I’d had publications under my maiden name, it wouldn’t even be open for discussion.

Long way of saying–this is a crappy position to be in. Good luck making your decision, whatever you decide!

 
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Miss Frozen Yogurt (message)  2,685 posts, Sugar bee

I totally agree with Ms. PChips. If there were no pressure and no one would be disappointed in the decision you made, what choice would you make? With that said, I am changing my name because it’s what I want to do. Also, I have a lot of friends who are in research and none of them received any sort of comment about changing their name from co-workers. That’s so sad that you feel that pressure.

 
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bunny (message)  1,177 posts, Bumble bee

I changed my last name legally and kept my maiden as my middle. (Goodbye forever, “Marie”!) I’m still using my maiden for all my work-related writing for some of the same reasons you outlined.

On the other hand, I’m glad I took his last name. I do feel like we’re more of a family (sorry p-chips!) because we have the same last name. Plus his is easier to spell and pronounce. It makes things a LOT easier socially. Not that it’s a great reason to change it, but hey, whatevs.

I’m all about making whatever decision will make you happy. In most states, I don’t think you have to decide before the wedding. I know that in Ohio, you have maybe 1 year or 2 to change it before it gets more complicated.

 
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MissFei (message)  71 posts, Worker bee

How about replacing your last name as your middle name and take Mr. GP’s last name as your new last name? That way, you will get to keep them all?!?! Although I agree that you should use your own last name on all of your publications, this is very important for scientists!
Honestly, once you are married, family and friends will know that you are Mrs. GP and that you two are one family, so that’s the big deal of changing the last name on official documents? Does it really make that big of a difference on everyday living? Not to mention the troubles of going through all the paper works to change your name on every official documents. Men are so stubborn sometimes, sigh…

 
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Ms. Library (message)  1,250 posts, Bumble bee

I actually want to take his last name so that I will have the same last name as our possible future children. I know it is fine to not have the last name, but as a teacher, I know what it is like not to know whether someone is divorced or married to a student’s father/mother. I want to be known as his wife, and if my name helps show that, then great. I totally believe in choice, and whatever works for each person is great!

 
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Mrs. D'orsay (message)  2,272 posts, Buzzing bee

You can only use rock paper scissors if you’re not a sore loser :) I doubled barreled, and am still indecisive. le sigh

 
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Mrs. Guacamole

Whatever you do, just take your time making your decision. I felt sure I wanted to take his name, did it a day after we got back from the honeymoon, and have had some really conflicting feelings since. I probably would have still changed it, but I wish I’d given myself more time to think about it and get used to the idea.

 
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Mary Kate

To be honest, I would be pretty angry if he kept asking me to change my name, even though he knew I didn’t want to.

I also think the “I can’t change me last name because I’m a junior” argument he used is all bull. He wants to keep his last name because it links him to his Dad? Ummm…..excuse me…..but isn’t that the same argument you used for keeping your own last name and he shot it down?

This is just my two cents. I, personally, am changing my last name, but I think it should be your choice whether or not you change. Don’t let anyone else influence it.

 
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Samantha

For me, it wasn’t about keeping my dad’s name, or clinging to my family and not wanting to join another. For me, it was about going back to Ireland and finding my great great grandfather’s birth certificate in Donegal with my last name on it. My family name has a history that is irreplaceable and that I would never want to give up, substitute, or exchange. I know it’s not for everyone, but it is for me. While everyone gives the “but what about the kids??!?” argument I say, hey, we don’t have them now, and we’ll cross that bridge - as a family - when we get to it. Just as we will with any other celebration or challenge that arises. To each their own!

 
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mimi06d (message)  646 posts, Busy bee

You have to do what you’re most comfortable with. Like someone else suggested, maybe dropping your middle name and keeping both last names? Or maybe just adding his on to the end? Or not changing it at all.

 
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duck (message)  165 posts, Blushing bee

Personally, I think keeping your maiden name for work/paper related things and using his late name socially is a great idea–especially since you have published papers linked to that last name!

Ultimately its your last name, and he did say he will love you no matter what! ;)

I got lucky on this front, and don’t have to worry about changing my name–we have the same last name!

 
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chelseamorning (message)  2,252 posts, Buzzing bee

I was very anxious about changing my name—but I did, and I got used to it. I am happy with it now. I kept my maiden as a second middle name.

I think that no matter what you do, you will still be family. And no matter what you do, both you and Mr. Guinea Pig will get used to your choice and be happy with it. And if for some reason you are not happy with your choice, it will always be within your power to reverse your decision, whatever that may be. Changing your name is neither required nor irrevocable—in either direction. Hopefully thinking of it that way will relieve some of the pressure you feel around this decision so that you can make it with a clearer head. Good luck :)

 
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Miss Giraffe (message)  4,216 posts, Honey bee

Oh man! It’s such a hard decision. I told the future Mr. that I had no intention of changing my last name. I love my family name, and he was totally fine with that as long as our future children have his last name (which was totally fine with me).

Lately, though, he’s done a total 180 and now wants me to take his name. I understand his reason, but I don’t know if I want to.

Luckily I have a while before I have to decide, but I ahave no idea what I will choose.

I think I’ll bump my last name up and have two middle names but have his last name? I don’t know. We’ll see!

Good luck :)

 
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Mattel (message)  682 posts, Busy bee

I’m in the SAME boat. I don’t want to give up my name, but hyphenating two pretty long names would be a little ridic. My thing is that although my Dad comes from a family of ten, there are only two boys - one childless and the other (my Dad) only has two girls…. out of all of my cousins, I’m the only one let with our family name as my sister very readily gave hers up at marriage. Right now I’m leaning towards changing my name and potentially using my last name as a future middle name for our children.

 
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gill84 (message)  725 posts, Busy bee

I have the same science issue - and was also shocked to discover that my Mr. was actually hurt that I wouldn’t want to change my last name.

I have a co-worker who’s solved the problem by having 2 last names, no hyphen. She’s Mrs. X (maiden name) Y (married name). That way legally she is her husband’s name, but on forms and stuff she just drops the second last name and uses her maiden name (and same with her publications).

I’ve been toying with this idea as a compromise myself… good luck with deciding!

 
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rplatzer (message)  265 posts, Helper bee

You don’t want to change your last name. Remember that. While I agree that feminism is about having a choice, it seems like you already made yours!

I also firmly believe in the art of compromise, however. So in exchange for changing your last name, what is he going to give you? If he realizes how important having your name is to you (and he should, because having his name is important to him!), he should be willing to compromise on something equally meaningful to him.

 
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Miss Snow (message)  916 posts, Busy bee

I’m thinking of a similar plan where I just add Mr. Snow’s name, and I have two last names. I’ll just publish with all four names (I’m not giving up my middle either since I grew up with the double name ie Mary Catherine). I’m just selfish I guess, but I want all my names…lol.

 
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Mrs. Smith

I hyphenated my name but use my maiden for all professional matters. It’s the name on my diploma and is my name “of record” but I’ll still be able to have the convenience of being knows as Mrs. Smith socially. It’s a little awkward at times but it works for me.

 
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Mrs. Guinea Pig, Baltimore, MD Age and Occupation: 26, PhD student Fiance's Age and Occupation: 26, Operations Director at a non-profit Engagement Date: December 25, 2008 Wedding Date: May 2010 Venue: The Chesapeake Bay Beach Club About Me: I'm a tomboy science nerd whose girly side has made a startling appearance thanks to wedding planning! I love to bake, knit and sew but I also ride a motorcycle (that Mr. Guinea Pig wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole). We live with our three crazy cats and love to read, travel, watch movies, and do home improvement projects together! My parents/family are Canadian but I'm definitely American, although I've lived in 5 different countries, 6 different states, and speak Russian fluently. Mr. GP and I met online (did I mention I'm a scientist?) and had a whirlwind romance - now we can't wait to get married & celebrate with all our friends and family in a blue and yellow waterfront affair!

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