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Traditional Traditions.

February 5th, 2010 @ 1:48 pm by Ms. Stripes

Traditional Traditions. :  wedding traditions Diction dictionary

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Because I’m a giant dork and because I LOVE the dictionary, I give you M Webs’ definition of tradition in its entirety:

Main Entry: tra·di·tion

Pronunciation: ’trə- di-shən’

Function: noun

Etymology: Middle English tradicioun, from Middle French & Latin; Middle French tradicion, from Latin tradition-, traditio action of handing over, tradition — more at >treason

Date: 14th century

1 a : an inherited, established, or customary pattern of thought, action, or behavior (as a religious practice or a social custom) b : a belief or story or a body of beliefs or stories relating to the past that are commonly accepted as historical though not verifiable
2 : the handing down of information, beliefs, and customs by word of mouth or by example from one generation to another without written instruction
3 : cultural continuity in social attitudes, customs, and institutions
4 : characteristic manner, method, or style <in the best liberal tradition>

tra·di·tion·al ’- ˈ dish-nəl, - ˈ di-shə-n ə l’ adjective

tra·di·tion·al·ly adverb

tra·di·tion·less ’- ˈ di-shən-ləs’ adjective

Got that? Traditions are weighty things, people. The definition above can pretty much be cited as the reason people get married, the reason we wanna get married, and the reason peeps DON’T want us to get married. Complicated, no?

It also reaffirms for me how important it is for us to get married, legal or not. It’s time to introduce a new norm and reclaim “traditional marriage”. It makes me sick that it’s been hijacked and degraded by this whole “marriage is between a man and a woman” bullshit. Traditional marriage in that sense of the word? No thanks. Now if you’re talking about love, honor, & commitment—I’m totally on board.

So it seems only appropriate that I give you our, ahem, tried and true traditions first. Here goes.

OLD SCHOOL TRADITIONS:

I want my dad to walk me down the aisle. I love this tradition despite its archaic passing off your daughter like chattel origins. I love my dad tons and the last few years have been really rough on him. He’s basically been forced into an early retirement due to a lot of scary health problems that they’re still trying to get to the bottom of. I think that sometimes it takes something like this for us to grasp our parents’ mortality and I have to admit it scares the hell out of me! I’m hoping my dad can get healthy (er) this year and that our wedding is a little something for him to look forward too. He’s been a wonderful father and I want him to have the HONOR of walking me down the aisle because I think it will make him happy. And depending how things shape up with Fiancee Stripes’ family, he may have to walk us both down the aisle. Double Happiness. :)

I want to wear a white dress. I know girls dream of the fluffy white princess dress, but not this girl. At some point in my angsty teen phase I told my mom that IF I ever even got married I’d have a ruby engagement ring and a red dress. Even when we started planning our wedding I still thought I might have a colored dress, although I long abandoned the ruby/red dress idea. Anyway, in my progression to full blown princess dress, I’m still on the short white dress end of the spectrum, but with a healthy leaning towards it-could-be-longer-if-it-was-vintage-couture.

We wanna cut the cake. And the rug. But that’s later. Anyway, this one is super important to Fiancee Stripes b/c “it’s just what you do at every wedding.” And even though she’s promised not to smash cake in my face, I still find this one a little suspect. I do agree that it happens at every wedding though, and I’m happy to give our guests a little of that continuity we were talking about in the above definitions. None of that “We went to a GAY wedding and (lowers voice) they didn’t even CUT the cake.” Nope. Not at our shindig. We deliver.

Okay on to cutting the rug, aka The First Dance. Yes, we (Fiancee Stripes) want everyone to stare at us as we awkwardly sway to a song of her choice. Yup—music is not my domain, peeps. This one makes me the most uncomfortable—I don’t like people staring at me if I can’t blabber. I’m much better at blabber than I am at awkward swaying. That being said, there is a redemptive factor to this one and that’s busting out with an amazing choreographed number mid-sway. That, I could get behind. So if you’re one of our darling wedding guests, forget you read this and damn it, act surprised should it happen!

In a perfect world of butterflies, unicorns and rainbows we would want a father/daughter dance. We don’t live in a perfect world though, and as Fiancee Stripes’ family isn’t supportive of our relationship/wedding we’re not really sure that they’ll be available for dancing. Or at our wedding at all, for that matter. Here’s where are all those above definitions of tradition painfully collide and the only one who gets hurt is my beautiful fiancee. And it sucks. I’m not sure what to do about it or how exactly to deal with this beyond obviously NOT having a father/daughter dance…

Not to end on a sad note, but do any of you have advice about how to deal with unsupportive family members?

Up next: NEW SCHOOL TRADITIONS.

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29 Responses to “Traditional Traditions.”

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Rosiebear

Stripes! I love this post! For a while I felt a strong adverstion to traditional wedding fanfare, but you know what? I want some of it. I am wearing a white dress and having my parents “escort” me down the aisle (er, meadow), we are cutting the cake, dancing a first, and even though we are having a super crunchy Humanist dirt-loving wedding, thats ok! Thanks for validating traditions for the non-traditional! You rock!

 
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tinab1181

The nice thing about the cake cutting, and we did it too, is not just the tradition of it, but I like the idea of us, as a couple feeding each other. I’m foodie inclined, and well a marriage should be us supporting each other, nourishing each other, and committing to each other. I think the feeding each other really ends up being a symbol of this… (also? Yum. Cake!) And we didn’t do any smashing. I did dot icing on the husband’s nose, before kissing it off. But nothing crazy.

Also! My husband has no relationship with his mother (he has only two blood relatives that he knows, and the mother wouldn’t show, and his sister was uh, unavailable.), so my father and I danced, and then I waved the husband and my mother on to dance with me. I thought it was really lovely.

 
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Miss Cola (message)  2,868 posts, Sugar bee

I’m so sorry that your FI’s family isn’t supportive! But it sounds like you two are making the best of it, and have some wonderful traditions planned. Looking forward to hearing your new traditions!

 
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Lady B

In my experience the best way to deal with an unsupportive family is to remember that family is not only biological. In life I think we create a second family of the people we meet who care about us deeply, and sometimes they are better than the originals. I bet Fiance Stripes has someone in her life who loves her dearly and DOES support her marriage to you- a friend, mentor, whomever. She should have a dance with that person, and it’ll be just as special.

 
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Snowflake Brit (message)  78 posts, Worker bee

I’m sorry they’re not supportive of you. As much as it’s nice to have the support of close family, at the end of the day it’s you and Mr Stripes’ future. You form your own family with your friends and any little stripes that come along.
At the end of the day, Mr Stripes’ parents are the ones missing out on the greatest day of your lives and they have to live with that.
Chin up! (as we Brits say!)

 
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Miss Hot Wings
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Miss Hot Wings (message)  2,213 posts, Buzzing bee

When it comes to unsupportive family, I say give them time. It hurts like all hell, but I’ve noticed that I yell, scream, run away from them in anger, give them weeks to think about it, and later they come to terms and come back around. I never get apologies or anything, but they come to terms with it in their own way. I truely hope that this will be the case b/c I’m sure it will make Fiance Stripes so happy to have them. I think ultimately some people just need time to “mourn” the lost of their previous vision… but they’ll come around. Give them time.

Cut the cake so you make sure you get to taste that darn expensive thing! :)

 
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Irishker03
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Irishker03 (message)  571 posts, Busy bee

Miss Stripes! I love the post. So sad about Fiancee’s family being unsupportive! What about you dance with your mom/dad and have your lovely fiancee dance with the your other parent (perhaps letting her choose whichever parent she’s closer to?)

 
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Ms Potato Chips (message)  1,193 posts, Bumble bee

LOVE this post. The “marriage is one man/one woman” is bs and I can’t wait to see your new-school traditions!

 
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bridgetjones2010
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bridgetjones2010 (message)  167 posts, Blushing bee

So sorry about your fiancee’s family. I’m sure their lack of support is terribly hard on you both. I think it’s so great that your dad is ready to step up and walk both of you down the aisle. Cheers to Daddy Stripes!

 
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Miss Nachos
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Miss Nachos (message)  1,733 posts, Bumble bee

I’m with Irishker03, I was thinking about you starting the dance with your dad, then pulling Fiance Stripes up and have her dance with him and you can sway with your mom. You can both enjoy dancing with the parents that support you both.

 
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julesann
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julesann (message)  90 posts, Worker bee

Ignore them and move on. :) They’ll come along eventually……

P.S. We did not cut the cake at our wedding….we had cupcakes, and they even added a small cake on the top tier…but we totally forgot to cut it. ;)

 
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Golden8214

Im so sorry your fiance’s family does not support your tradition. My mom and I were just discussing this situation this morning and families that dont fully support their children and their children’s relationship because of their sexual preference but would support those kids if they were accused of a violent act because they are their kids. My mom, who has actually become more accepting and progressive as the years have gone by, said that sometimes families need to come to terms with the fact that what makes them happy does not make their children happy and if their kids are in love and have a healthy relationship that is all you can ask for. She said its hard for families to leave their own viewpoints for their children at the door but most families will come around and support their kids because they love them and want them to be happy. Hopefully your fiance’s family sees the light and realize that you two are happy and in love and have a beautiful relationship that rivals many heterosexual couples

 
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kaymaroo
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kaymaroo (message)  78 posts, Worker bee

Not to focus only the negative–since there are a lot of positive, lovely traditions in this post–but I have to say, unsupportive familes suck. For the father/daughter dance, what if your dad danced with you first, then with fiancee stripes, as a way of welcoming her as his new daughter? Father/daughter dance times 2, no? And you could do both in one song and not have to dance as long with everyone staring at you!

 
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Miss Cardigan
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Miss Cardigan (message)  8,645 posts, Bee Keeper

What a great post - and so sad about fiancee stripes’ family. I hope things work out.

 
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Miss Pretzel (message)  1,893 posts, Buzzing bee

:( I like kaymaroo’s idea.

 
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Miss Pencils (message)  1,027 posts, Bumble bee

you rock those traditions! as for unsupportiveness? do your best to reach out to them but know that you can only control what’s within your locus of control- which does not include other peoples’ responses or actions :( lots of love you & FI Stripes way though :)

 
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Karen

Marriage as defined by “one man and one woman” isn’t traditional as much as it is Biblical. You are entitled to your own beliefs but I would encourage you to offer the open mindedness that you expect and seek. It sounds as if F Stripes family is having a difficult time accepting your relationship. Perhaps instead of anger, you should try to understand their point of view. After all, you are expecting them to accept your point of view even though it is apparently, very different from their own.

 
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Miss Stripes (message)  1,063 posts, Bumble bee

@Rosiebear: Lol! I’m glad to see that other “non-traditionals” are seeking a little tradition! Nice to mix it up!@tinab1181: Thanks for reaffirming that the cake cutting was nice and didn’t end with an icing-smeared face! Glad you guys found a way around a difficult family situation too- nice to see that there’s hope yet! :)
@Golden8214: Yes! Yes! And yes! I’m so glad to hear someone else use the comparison about lovingly reaching out to your criminal child and then uninviting your gay child to Christmas (for example) I thought maybe I was the only one who frequents that example! Although for the record I hope to reach out to my future children NO MATTER WHAT they are or what they do, and I don’t equate gays and criminals either, lol. I sure can blabber, but really -thanks for the encouragement and I’m keeping my fingers crossed that F Stripes parents come around!
@kaymaroo: Love it!
@Karen: Mmmm. I don’t think I expressed any anger towards my future inlaws, mostly just sadness for my fiancée that they aren’t the most supportive! And don’t worry- I’m quite open-minded and respect others beliefs, I just don’t respect the use of personal beliefs to take away civil rights! Otherwise I’d make sure to force peeps to recycle and only adopt shelter pets, but alas, those are MY beliefs. Sadly the issue with my inlaws is neither civil nor religious (they’re not) so it really is a difficult and hurtful conundrum. :(

 
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Miss Buttons (message)  5,046 posts, Bee Keeper

Awwww I love the idea of your daddy being able to dance with both you and FI Stripes if her family is not there! What a sweet sentiment! I know I will want to share a dance with Mr. B’s dad at some point during the reception!

Annnd I’m glad you’re cutting the cake. I don’t think it would be a wedding without it!

 
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LpCutiPie
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LpCutiPie (message)  699 posts, Busy bee

I love the idea of FI Stripes dancing with your dad as well.. You mentioned he might walk the two of you down the aisle so I’m sure he could dance with you both as well.. My father has never been supportive of anything in my life so my solution would have been to dance with my grandfather (or another supportive close friend or family member since he passed away a few years ago) but we’re just pretty much cutting out dancing all together. Whatever happens don’t ever let anyone affect how you feel about your choices- no one is worth that much- not even family..

 
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Ms. Stripes, Los Angeles Age and Occupation: 29, Costume Designer/Stylist Fiancee's Age and Occupation: 29, Chef Engagement Date: June 23, 2009 Wedding Date: September 2010 Venue: Heritage Square Museum About Me: I’m a type A creative with a messy streak, a loud mouth, and an uncanny knack for combining clashing patterns. I can usually be found with my nose in a book, my feet (or at least my toes) on the ground, my head in the clouds, and my arm around the prettiest girl you ever saw- aka Fiancee Stripes. Together we’re planning a FUN vintage/modern French carnival wedding extravaganza and rockin’ dance party on a dime. (Say that three times fast!) Good coffee, long lists, Uniball pens, and my iPhone keep me sane, and making art, making trouble, and making out keep me happy! I love urban adventures, bike rides that end with afternoon drinks, breakfast for dinner, beautiful light, photography, travel, my furry family, and of course, my beautiful fiancee! I’m super excited to be here and can’t wait to share all our adventures as we craft a joyful, budget-friendly, design-savvy and all-around AWESOME wedding!

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