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Mrs. Starfish, Boston/Newport Age and Occupation: 25, Operations Assistant Fiance's Age and Occupation: 25, Sales Engagement Date: October 8, 2008 Wedding Date: October 2010 Venue: The Atlantic Beach Club About Me: I'm a perfectionist who is a planner at heart. I don't do well with surprises. I love planning, crafting, Newport RI, family and friends, and most importantly, Mr. Starfish---all of which will be big components in our October wedding in our favorite little city by the sea.
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The Best Planning Decision

March 20th, 2010 @ 2:25 pm by Mrs. Starfish

One of the best planning decisions we made was not actually by choice.

We knew we wanted to get married in a Catholic Church because it is important to us, both spiritually and emotionally. We also knew it would make my mom happy since I’m “her only hope” of having a child to have a Catholic wedding. We kind of joke that we’re doing it for her, but in reality, we both want to raise our children in the Catholic faith and hopefully they’ll share in our values and beliefs. We want to start our Catholic traditions and family values right from the start. And I say right from the start, although we already have these values, because I want it to be an important part of our lives as a family—which truly begins on our wedding day.

Having a Catholic wedding wasn’t easy for us, at first. We aren’t actively participating members of a church. When we called churches in Rhode Island, we were told by all of them that our priest would have to sign off. This is not easily done when you don’t have a priest.

At first, I complained and thought it would be impossible, but then we decided to take action.

We were honest with my childhood church of our intentions. We let him know we wanted to join the church as members so that we could get married in a catholic church and of our hopes for becoming more involved in the future. He was very understanding and we became members that day. He signed off on our marriage and wrote a letter to our church in Rhode Island. It seemed like a scary experience, because I felt like they would say no, but it ended up being a great experience. We now have a church that we belong to and are able to get married in a catholic church in RI.

So, step 1 was over. The next requirement from our RI church was to attend pre-cana. I was absolutely dreading this. We live together; we have lived together for over 4 years. I’ve heard rumors of people being condemned for “living in sin” and didn’t think I could handle it. Our church in MA also doesn’t offer pre-cana, so we had to look elsewhere, and I felt like we’d be outsiders.

Our priest in MA gave us advice on where to look. We found a church that allowed us to join their pre-cana classes. It was a long drive away, which gave me time to stress beforehand.

When we arrived to the class, we were greeted by one of the couples and were led to our table. Each table had a few engaged couples and the team leaders, who were married couples. As soon as we sat down, our husband team leader introduced himself and asked how we were feeling. Mr. Starfish explained I was nervous, and he told me he was too when he had attended 2 years ago. He said he was sick for three days, but to trust him; it’s not what we expect.

After a few minutes in, we knew he was right. It wasn’t the typical condemnation you hear about, and it wasn’t even about the Catholic faith, it was about communicating and working on strengthening your relationship, something that can fall behind in the wedding planning.

Mr. Starfish and I tend to be opposites in every way,e specially in our methods of communication. I tend to talk and plan for the future, while he tends to live in the moment. We, scratch that, I had done a lot of talking about the future. I felt like we had many conversations, but in reality they were more one-sided. We went into pre-cana thinking it would be super preachy. Instead, our few classes were filled with skits on marriage, group discussions and activities. Many things were just conversation starters.

We ended up having the best conversations during our week of pre-cana. Mr. Starfish opened up to me on a lot of issues we had skimmed the surface on, but hadn’t really dealt with. I learned so much about him and our future from our classes.

We actually left with a much better understanding of each other and learned how to better communicate, without them actually telling us how to. I tried explaining it to others, but it’s more something you have to go through yourself.

If you attended pre-cana or another type of marriage prep, did it have a positive effect on your relationship?

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25 Responses to “The Best Planning Decision”

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nhlchick4
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nhlchick4 (message)  258 posts, Helper bee

We actually learned a lot of things in pre-cana about communication that we both really enjoyed. We were in the same boat as you, not just living in sin but we also have a little girl. The experience was enjoyable and there was no talk of going to h-e-double hockey stick or anything like that. I think @ this point, the Catholic church is just happy to have bodies to fill the pews than pass judgment on people :) My only complaint was that it was just toooo long but I really did enjoy it! :)

 
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rawrkitty1022
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rawrkitty1022 (message)  516 posts, Busy bee

I liked both Foccus and the engaged encouter weekend retreat a lot. A lot of good points are brought up and it offers a great chance to just communicate and spend quality time preparing for your future together. However, if you are like my fiance and don’t really like reading or writing, it can be a bit overkill lol

 
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luli29
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luli29 (message)  2,651 posts, Sugar bee

hmm..I’m actually going to Pre-Cana in about 2 hours! Its today and tomorrow…I’m nervous!

 
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Miss Giraffe
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Miss Giraffe (message)  4,216 posts, Honey bee

No pre cana for us, but it sounds so interesting!

 
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kayakgirl73
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kayakgirl73 (message)  2,124 posts, Buzzing bee

I liked our Engaged Encounter Weekend a lot. We found it to be very helpful. It made us think about and most importantly discuss several important issues.

 
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Miss Bianca
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Miss Bianca (message)  85 posts, Worker bee

We did our Engaged Encounter Weekend at the end of February and I must say if there were any last minute doubts about marriage, they vanished on the last day. I feel that I learned a lot about my future spouse that I probably would have not known at a better time. It made me love him more. We also got our FOCCUS results back a week ago and we were very pleased. I know that Pre Canna will make a difference in our marriage and we are so glad to have been able to do the weekend.

 
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Linnie

I am not engaged yet but we have already gotten a ring and he is planning on giving it to me around my bday in 2 months. My problem is that I am Catholic and he is not. He does not want to go to pre cana and refuses to as of now. I really want to do this because of the number of divorces there are today and I think any help would be great. I want to get married in the Catholic church and he doesn’t care where we get married. Don’t we have to go through pre cana? Hopefully I can convince him to go.

 
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Miss Trail Mix (message)  6,308 posts, Bee Keeper

We didn’t go to anything like this but I can see how it would be helpful! Glad to hear there was no condemnation or judgement :)

 
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gill84
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gill84 (message)  725 posts, Busy bee

We attended it - and it definitely made me think that all couples should take a course before getting married, regardless of their religious affiliations. I think they should offer them at community centres or something (and maybe they already do? I don’t know).

But it was definitely a good place for working on communicating and defining our values, etc. Not to mention being reminded of what our wedding is really about - our marriage.

We also both liked that our weekend retreat reminded us that marriage will have ups and downs, and focused also on how to get through the downs.

 
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PlaidBride (message)  203 posts, Helper bee

We took a one day class and thought that it was very interesting. For us, it was a confirmation of the fact that we have really good communication and a strong basis for our marriage. I did think, though, that a lot of my prior relationships would have benefited from the things taught in the class.

I too went into it very apprehensive. I’m not very good at people telling me how to live my life, but it wasn’t that at all (except for the natural family planning part - which was interesting too.) It would be good if they had it for everyone, not just those getting married in a religious ceremony.

 
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dookie32
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dookie32 (message)  173 posts, Blushing bee

I really enjoyed Pre-Cana. We did ours a few months ago as an all-day workshop. Almost all of the other couples were similar to us- early 30s, already living together. We discussed issues that were more relevant to our situation than issues that would be relevant to 22 year olds getting married- which was really helpful. I agree that it’s something every couple should have to do in some capacity- it’s an opportunity to really talk about some major topics that can potentially be a source of stress in your marriage.

 
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tea
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tea (message)  7,263 posts, Bee Keeper

we’ll be doing pre-martial counseling. i’m actually excited about it.

 
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jgoulart
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jgoulart (message)  1,069 posts, Bumble bee

We are on our third (out of four) pre-marital counseling sessions with our pastor and I love them. It gives us a chance to talk about something other then the wedding!

We’ve really gotten into some really great discussions and are hoping to do the Love Dare after we get married. :)

 
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mrspaetz
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mrspaetz (message)  3,805 posts, Honey bee

Our pre-marriage prep didn’t revolutionize our rship but it was useful as a ‘recap’ and reminding us of stuff that keeps a marriage/rship healthy. I think it’s great even if it’s not groundbreaking.

Glad it did good for you!

 
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Michelle {Things I Love}

I 100% agree with you on this, I thought pre-Cana was fantastic. I tried to explain it to a friend who was recently engaged, but it came to the same thing- you really have to experience it to understand. I had a great time, and it’s one of the most positive wedding planning experiences I’ve had to date.

 
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Appleblossom
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Appleblossom (message)  310 posts, Helper bee

Omg This was like reading an autobiography! We thought at first we would just jump through the hoops and get it over with, but pre-cana and the FOCCUS test were 2 of the best things to happen to our relationship. We also made the switch to NFP, which I swore up & down I would never use, and I am such a more stable, happy and caring person since then!

 
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eimersc (message)  235 posts, Helper bee

We have gone through our FOCCUS and looking forward to engaged encounter.
My fiance had a fit about the timing of the Catholic wedding, so although we think it’s important, we had to have a Catholic wedding and a larger outdoor ceremony later to appease the who audience (eye roll). At least most of the planning with that is over!

 
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tmdandelion
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tmdandelion (message)  33 posts, Newbee

Ours was horrible, we actually called our diocese regarding it. There was not much discussion and then the lady on parenting went on a tangent about shaking babies and actually put an egg in a jar and shook it. I had to keep the Mr. from getting up and walking out. Glad to hear yours went so much better!

 
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ms.pascua
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ms.pascua (message)  1,050 posts, Bumble bee

We did our Engaged Encounter retreat early in the engagement - about 3 months in - and, having been together for 12 years & living together for 10, we thought it would just be a recap of our relationship. While we found we DID know most of what we wanted/believed about our future marriage, the retreat helped us cultivate a UNITY in our relationship that we thought we already had, but the retreat solidified. And as a practicing Catholic marrying a non-baptized man, I’d had my doubts about whether he’d be truly committed to raising our future kids Catholic…FI’s answers & our discussions at the retreat completely put those fears to rest.
(SIDE NOTE: Engaged Encounter isn’t just for Catholics…those of you who are intrigued by this or think it sounds great, please look it up at EngagedEncounter.org & find one in your local area - all couples of any or no faith are welcome!)

 
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Linnie (message)  6 posts, Newbee

Ms. Pascua,

Your comments helped because my FI is not Catholic and as of right now doesn’t want to do Pre Cana and I am worried about him not wanting to raise our children Catholic also

 
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Mrs. Starfish, Boston/Newport Age and Occupation: 25, Operations Assistant Fiance's Age and Occupation: 25, Sales Engagement Date: October 8, 2008 Wedding Date: October 2010 Venue: The Atlantic Beach Club About Me: I'm a perfectionist who is a planner at heart. I don't do well with surprises. I love planning, crafting, Newport RI, family and friends, and most importantly, Mr. Starfish---all of which will be big components in our October wedding in our favorite little city by the sea.

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