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Mrs. Pencils, Washington DC/Frederick, MD Age and Occupation: 24, Program Director, Education Non Profit Fiance's Age and Occupation: 24, Administrative Assistant, Ocean Conservation Non Profit Engagement Date: July 26, 2008 Wedding Date: May 2010 Venue: Morningside Inn About Me: I'm a nerdy Northwestern girl who always knew she was meant to live in the East, harboring a deep love of ice cream, underwear, Diet Coke with a splash of Coca-Cola, pashminas, scrapbooking, stationery, wall calendars and books written for preteens. I think every day should include good thin crust pizza, chocolate, an obscure historical monument, lots of laughter, a dash of wedding planning and, of course, amazing Mr. Pencils! I'm loving the adventure of planning a Maryland wedding and Rocky Mountain reception, and most of all, I just love love!
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I have learned two things when creating our guest list and receiving RSVPs: Not everyone will remember to return the RSVP, and flexibility counts.

The Numbers and The Art of Flexibility :  wedding frederick invitations rsvp Img 317071 IMG_31707

Mr. Pencils and I were aiming for a wedding of about 125-130 guests. Not too big and not too small. When we sat down to create the initial invite list in the summer of 2009, we came up with around 180 names. With the traditional 75% “yes” rate, that’d give us about the number we were looking for.

Then we both started new jobs. And our moms remembered some people. And we each added a few friends that had slipped our minds. And we got to know our awesome neighbors. And then we had a guest list of…

215. Two hundred fifteen people. 75% of that? 161 people. My parents had budgeted and saved money for 130 people at our wedding site–food, alcohol, dancing, fun for 130 people. We freaked.

We couldn’t imagine removing anyone however, and invited them all. As the RSVPs rolled in, it was huge sense of regret and small sigh of relief when we saw a “no”. We wanted everyone there, but also knew that a large majority of our guests from Idaho might not be able to make it—which is why we included the Idaho reception info in the invitation itself.

When the RSVP deadline arrived, we were about 30 RSVPs short. Pencils’ tip? Create a “fake RSVP” in your guest list document/excel sheet like I did. Our beautiful grandmothers’ did not send a return, nor did a smattering of co-workers and other family members. We had to call these people to get their answer, and here’s where ended up.

  • Number of Invitees: 215 people
  • Number of invitations sent out: 120
  • Number of RSVPs physically received: 92
  • Number of YES: 126
  • Number of NO: 91
  • Add in Mr. P and me, and our two photographers—

Total Guest Count: 130

130 on the nose. It was too good to be true. We submitted the final head count to our reception site/caterer and counted our luck to hit the number we exactly wanted.

Then, I learned the art of flexibility. Three of my family from Louisiana called with a health emergency, and one of them won’t be joining us. Then two of my gorgeous bridesmaids decided to fly solo, and we had two more empty seats. They both made sure it wouldn’t cause a huge deal in the seating arrangements—and it won’t—but they both went out of their way to make sure.

I was a bit worried about my parents’ reaction, but what was my mom’s answer when I called to break the news to her?

“Honey, it’s fine. We might have some people not show up, but it’s your wedding day. In the end, that’s all that matters. We’re fine and it’s better to have more food than too little!”

I have rarely felt so lucky to be surrounded by people who so care about my stress level. My biggest tip? Flexibility is key when it comes to guest list planning.

Anyone else have some guest list last minute changes?

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24 Responses to “The Numbers & The Art of Flexibility”

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Miss Hamster (message)  4,046 posts, Honey bee

It’s always so interesting to see the numbers! Our RSVP deadline is end of this week, and I’m still waiting on a bunch!

 
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flamingred (message)  1,929 posts, Buzzing bee

I am FREAKING about this. Our venue holds 150. We ended up inviting 160 (which we can afford) but the place can’t accomidate that many people! We originally wanted 130ish so I am praying right now that some people decline-and I feel horrible about it. lol.

 
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Miss Turtle (message)  782 posts, Busy bee

Wow, reading that made me so happy for you, because it seems so rare for everything to work out that perfectly! Our goal is 120-130 guests too, and we have had so much drama surrounding the guest list. I’m trying to figure out how many invitations to send out right now, because I don’t want to send out 180, assuming that we’ll get 75% and then get 180 yes RSVP’s. We wouldn’t even have room for them all! Anyway, I hope I can write a post just like yours in a couple of months! Congrats! :)

 
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Ms. Smuttynose (message)  172 posts, Blushing bee

We’ve invited 175 and are hoping for 150 or so. Fingers crossed!

 
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sunnydebs (message)  784 posts, Busy bee

What do you mean by “Fake RSVP?”

 
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Jessie516 (message)  5,480 posts, Bee Keeper

Wow, that’s pretty awesome that you were right on the nose with your 130 estimate. I think we invited 119 and had a total of 78 (including the photogs, DJ, The Hubs and me).

Also, I think it’s great that you’re willing to just kinda roll with it because of some last minute changes. I know we had a last minute cancellation and I almost stressed out–until I talked to our catering manager who was totally flexible.

 
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thebriz (message)  448 posts, Helper bee

Aside from having to chase folks down, we had more folks turn us down than expected; while we are still going to make out minimum budget, it has created problems with seating. But yes, these things happen I guess (though it doesn’t make me feel any better or not be a bit ticked off, especially when you have to hunt folks down to found out it was a no).

 
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MJogan (message)  124 posts, Blushing bee

Thank you so much, Miss Pencils, for this post!!

I have been consistently worried about our guest list. I have fears that too many or not enough will come. We picked our location because it was home for my fiancees family who all live within an hour of the wedding spot. With the exception of my parents, my whole family must board a plane, and in some cases cross an international border, to make it.

The guest list we wanted to cap at 150 quickly escalated to 165 and my parents haven’t signed off on it yet! We’re hoping that we get 100-125.

Your post has helped me to take a deep breath and remember that although this day is HUGE for us, it’s not (thank goodness!) for everyone else resulting in a vastly more manageable guest list!

 
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Miss Cola (message)  2,870 posts, Sugar bee

Whew! I would have been nervous to be right on the nose like that, and relieved to have a few less coming, although it would have been nice of them to tell you before you had to give the number to your caterer.

We’ve been planning on 100 people, but if only 90 come, that’s about $1,000 less we have to pay our caterer, so we’re kind of hoping a few extra people bow out. ;)

 
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Mrs. Frozen Yogurt (message)  2,685 posts, Sugar bee

We had a TON of last minute changes. To the tune of like 15 people not coming last minute, which sucked because of the whole non-refundable, already paid a deposit for you thing, but I didn’t miss them at all, and felt like they missed out.

 
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MissCremeBrulee (message)  311 posts, Helper bee

I’m slightly jealous. Our current response rate is over 90% yes. We were hoping for closer to 80%.

 
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sapphirebride (message)  1,750 posts, Buzzing bee

We certainly hope that we’ve accounted for everyone. I think we’ll probably be under #s due to a lot of out of state guests.

 
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Miss Seashell (message)  1,713 posts, Bumble bee

I hope our numbers work out as well as yours! We’re over-inviting a bit too…fingers crossed!

 
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jordynrose (message)  6,351 posts, Bee Keeper

Sounds like you played this one just right. We have yet to send out our invites, I hope it all works out.

 
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alivoo01
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alivoo01 (message)  2,625 posts, Sugar bee

What a relief it must have been for you! Wedding planning continues without added guest stress!

 
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daniellemybelle (message)  2,520 posts, Sugar bee

As you know (since FI is a show off haha) we just send out invitations last week, and are already getting RSVPs. I feel guilty for being relieved when people decline, because I really do wish all our loved ones could join, but we honestly can’t afford that!! So I totally relate to and am hoping for the same relief you’ve experienced.

I kind of doubt it, though, since our goal number is more like 50% of the invited guests than 75%! Like you, it was really hard to narrow down our list, and we ended up inviting almost 100 more people than we had originally planned. Yes, 100 more. But hey! I did the math and ya’ll had a 58.6% acceptance rate. If we end up with the same percentages you do, that’s only about 20 more people than we originally planned for. Here’s to hoping!

 
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alvina
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alvina (message)  807 posts, Busy bee

those were the things I learned too! :-P Our rsvp deadline is this friday and there is still a few missing. :]

 
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Toffee
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Toffee (message)  1,191 posts, Bumble bee

Wow, that’s awesome that you hit it right on the nose. I’m anticipating 95% yeses as almost everyone invited is family and pretty much required to show up, but we’ll see.

 
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Miss Trail Mix (message)  6,329 posts, Bee Keeper

I’m SOOO jealous!! I was hoping for 175 but it’s totally going to end up being 200, it sucks!

 
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Elizabeth

I had the exact opposite experience you did. My family invited 121, and got 75 yeses. His family invited 94 people, and got 98 yeses (some late additions).

Our venue only holds 140, and we’re budgeted for 150, but our guestlist is at 170 confirmed RSVPs….

Flexibility… sure… I’ll go more with panic attack.

 
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Mrs. Pencils, Washington DC/Frederick, MD Age and Occupation: 24, Program Director, Education Non Profit Fiance's Age and Occupation: 24, Administrative Assistant, Ocean Conservation Non Profit Engagement Date: July 26, 2008 Wedding Date: May 2010 Venue: Morningside Inn About Me: I'm a nerdy Northwestern girl who always knew she was meant to live in the East, harboring a deep love of ice cream, underwear, Diet Coke with a splash of Coca-Cola, pashminas, scrapbooking, stationery, wall calendars and books written for preteens. I think every day should include good thin crust pizza, chocolate, an obscure historical monument, lots of laughter, a dash of wedding planning and, of course, amazing Mr. Pencils! I'm loving the adventure of planning a Maryland wedding and Rocky Mountain reception, and most of all, I just love love!

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