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Ms Seahorse, Boston Age and Occupation: 25, Veterinary Jane-of-all-trades Fiancee's Age and Occupation: 36, former non-profit fundraiser in search of something better Engagement Date: October 17, 2009 Wedding Date: September 2010 Venue: Fort Pond Lodge About Me: By day I'm a cat-wrangler, vet tech assistant, pet-sitter, receptionist, and pre-vet student, but the rest of the time, I'm a former-roller-derby girl turned dedicated-wedding planner. I love reading, writing, bicycles, animals, roller skating, and antique-y things of all sorts. I'm a vegetarian who likes spicy foods, while Fiancee Seahorse is a meat eater who does not like spices. We live outside Boston with our menagerie: a fifty pound dog, a one-eyed, seventeen-toed, toothless cat, and a perfectly put together cat who has a penchant for pooping near rather than in her litter box. In addition to planning our small lake-side wedding, we enjoy running around with the puppy, playing board games (Scrabble, anyone?), having little adventures, talking about how we should really clean the house more, and maintaining our little garden of vegetables and wedding flowers.
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Domestically Partnered

May 14th, 2010 @ 3:55 pm by Ms Seahorse

As you probably saw in my little floating profile, my affianced is currently jobless, and thus health-insurance-less; my job provides health care coverage for spouses and domestic partners. Obviously, we want to, and plan to, get married (yay Massachusetts!), but we want to have the whole big party for the actual wedding rather than just going to town hall, and if domestic partnership will suffice for these purposes, then it is good enough for us.

One Thursday in February, Fancee and I took the dog for a walk, had some breakfast, and then drove in to Cambridge town hall. There are only three places where you can register a domestic partnership in Massachusetts: Cambridge, Provincetown, and somewhere else that I can’t seem to find online (does anyone know the answer to this?). Here we are at City Hall in Cambridge:

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Yay City Hall!

After posing for these exciting pictures, we went inside and found room 103 for the City Clerk. We knew that’s where we were supposed to go because it says so on this Domestic Partnership FAQ.

Now, I know what you’re wondering: What does it mean to be a domestic partner? How are you qualified to be a domestic partner?

Well, dear reader, I will tell you. First, you must be domestic, a la cleaning the apartment, walking the dog, making lunch and packing it in a paper bag for your partner, who is someone you love and support and is your partner in life. Duh.

No, but actually it’s not that far off. Here is what the fact sheet says about what a domestic partner is:

To be domestic partners, you and your partner must reside together … in a relationship of mutual support, caring and commitment, be 18 or over, and consider yourselves to be a family. Neither of you can be married to anyone, and neither of you can have a different domestic partner … You cannot be related to your partner [in any] relationship that would bar marriage.

“Reside together” means living together in a common household. A partner may be temporarily absent from the common household, so long as she or he has the intent to return. A partner may own or maintain an additional residence.

“Mutual Support” means that the domestic partners each contribute in some fashion, not necessarily equally or financially, to the maintenance and support of the domestic partnership.

So, somehow we should consider somewhere home, even if we don’t both own it or live there, and even if we live somewhere else. We should be in what is considered a “relationship”. And we should have $25 to give to the city clerk. What does this get us? “A Certificate of Domestic Partnership and two wallet-sized cards indicating the existence of the partnership, [and] the names of the domestic partners.”

Besides that, we get some “access rights” that spouses get, like hospital and correctional facilities visitation. This works out great with my plan to land in jail soon! No, but really, the hospital stuff can be important, and, most importantly (and the whole reason for this adventure), my insurance allows me to add Fancee to my plan if we’re domestic partners.

The interesting thing that happened came after I posted this picture on Facebook soon after we got home. After all, it was exciting: our relationship is now legally recognized (sort of), even if the only thing we have to do to dissolve it is sign one piece of paper. I should note that, along with the picture, I wrote, “We’re official! Officially able to share health insurance…”

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People started to ask me if we’d gotten married. Several people said congratulations on our marriage. And while it’s really sweet that people noticed and remembered, I was definitely struck by this, and I guess I’m still trying to articulate why for myself.

I think that I’m upset because so many people equate domestic partnership and marriage, and it is not the same thing at all. Not at all.

In my search for the other town in which you can register a DP, I found this sweet summary:

There are hundreds of laws that are triggered by legal marriage. In most locations, Domestic Partner Registrations prompts very few benefits, if any, and outside of that jurisdiction, they are legally entirely worthless.

The most a registration generally does is to allow you access if your partner is in prison or in a hospital. Usually they don’t even allow you to make medical decisions, should your partner be incapacitated… Domestic partnership registrations are nothing whatever like legal marriage. And unlike legal marriage, they have such little history that their legal status is uncertain.

So, we live in Massachusetts. We can legally marry in Massachusetts (don’t get me started on filing taxes). We plan to legally marry in MA in just under 150 days. This is not the same as a domestic partnership.

I think that part of what is frustrating is how other people just accept that this is what we get, that this is what we do, that this is equivalent to marriage. Besides that, every straight couple that I have suggested domestic partnership to, for heath insurance reasons or visitation reasons, or whatever it is—because it is available regardless of gender—seems uninterested. “No, we’ll just get married,” or “No, we’re not ready for the commitment,” are some of the answers I’ve heard. Is it strange that these strike me as very privileged responses?

I’m having a hard time articulating my frustration. Does anyone have input? Has anyone had a similar response? Is everyone really, really happy for me that I was able to become a domestic partner?

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We’re happy because at least in our state, we will have some legal protections.

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Miss Ribbons (message)  2,018 posts, Buzzing bee

We’re actually domestic partners right now for health insurance reasons, too. My work insurance was just extremely expensive and my fiance’s wasn’t to add someone, so that’s what we did.

It definitely isn’t the same as being married, as our tax bill can attest :) Domestic partnership benefits, like health insurance, get taxed as income, in contrast to the health insurance benefits of married couples.

 
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LoriLori (message)  727 posts, Busy bee

Happy for you both! Congrats on being able to get your soon-to-be wife on your health insurance, no insurance is NO GOOD! You guys look so happy, I can’t wait to see your happiness in your wedding pictures. I’m very interested to hear about subjects like this and am all in favor of marriage for all. :-)

 
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denverbirdlet (message)  750 posts, Busy bee

woohoo! congrats on being domestic partners! i’m losing my job soon and while i’ll be able to get on my FI’s insurance after we’re married, that seems like a good alternative for us for right now … there will be about a 2 month gap where i’ll be uninsured otherwise. I’d never heard of domestic partnerships before, but it seems like a good idea to me!

 
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Raquita

My husband and I were domestic partners for four years before we got married for the exact same reasons as you and wanted to marry for the same reasons as you - its one of the reasons we are so pro-marriage for everyone, since we know first hand how short a domestic partnership leaves you in an emergency situation.

 
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Goldilocks1107 (message)  2,504 posts, Sugar bee

We’re domestic partners too! We did it because originally his insurance allowed me to keep my most favorite of doctors. And then his changed to the same craptacular plan that I have at work. So we’re not actually taking advantage of the benefits.

 
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RedCactus (message)  127 posts, Blushing bee

We are a straight couple who actually registered for Domestic Partnership before we got married. It did allow us to be in student housing together. At the time, there was also this big (and frankly stupid) argument that there was no need for gay marriage in New York because the NUMBER of people registering for domestic partnership was small. (The real reason for that, if you ask me, is because domestic partnership gives you little in New York, not because we don’t have gay couples here). In any case, my husband and I decided we would help improve that number. It also gave us that little experience that we share with our gay friends - the realization of the lameness of domestic partnership.

Some days I can’t believe it, but we still don’t have Gay Marriage in New York. We included a phrase in our marriage in ceremony in support of Gay Marriage. But it saddens me that our state has yet to realize that its Domestic Partnership Law is a mere cover for a real lack of inequality.

 
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Laura

In my experience, it’s upsetting because people equate domestic partnerships etc WITH marriage.

For example, in 2008, I was talking to my mum and grandmother about civil partnerships for same sex couples in the U.K (I’m a British born Australian and my grandmother still lives in England. I was also engaged to my lovely wife at the time).

They could not understand why I was upset that the U.K had civil partnerships and not same sex marriage - “It’s LIKE a marriage.” However, it is NOT a marriage. You can’t for example, immigrate to Canada which has same sex marriage, based on a civil partnership. Marriage (and unfortunately only marriage) brings about a very specific set of legal rights and privileges.

Plus people don’t stop and think that the word “married” not only carries legal meaning - it carries a very specific social meaning! If you say that you’re in a domestic partnership with a person, do people interpret it the same way as “We’re married.”? Nope!

Sometimes I think that domestic partnerships etc set back GLBTQ rights because it causes so much confusion (and unfortunately sometimes laziness) in our otherwise well meaning allies. However, at the same time I’m really glad that they exist! In Australia (I live in Canada at the moment because of the being gay married bit), we will eventually be considered de facto partners which will trigger a set of legal privileges (for example, my wife will be able to apply for a permanent residence visa). But it’s still not the same as being married - here, as soon as we were married I was able to apply for a visa.

And I’m sorry for writing an essay! Obviously it’s a little bit close to my heart based on my personal experiences :)

 
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Mrs. French Bulldog (message)  7,730 posts, Bee Keeper

I think I see what you’re saying and I wish I could explain it in another way, but I am also not very good at articulating things.
This is an point I’ve discussed with several people who disagree that same sex couples should be given the same rights as non-same sex couples regarding marriage. They think domestic partnership or a civil union is the same and it is not. Not even close. And that is the point I try to make with them. The point is equality and those things do not equate the same rights.

 
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missmary (message)  16 posts, Newbee

Thank you for this post!!
Even in CA where a domestic partnership is affords the same legal (state) benefits as a hetero couple’s legal (state) benefits when they get married, the point is it is NOT the same. It’s not the same when the majority of your home state votes to amend the Constitution to let you know that your relationship cannot and will not be allowed to be referred to as a “marriage,” just a “domestic partnership.” Legal benefits, though obviously important, are only those. Legal benefits. Unfortunately they do not add up to a “marriage.”

I wish I had something more constructive or thoughtful to say, but I’m glad to see conversations like this on the Bee, and glad that gay couples have more visibility on the Bee!

 
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Newport Nuptials (message)  1,230 posts, Bumble bee

Domestic partenrship is definitely not the same. Mr. S and I are domestic partners becuase I used to have him on my health insurance. I would never say ok so we’re domestic partners so lets skip this whole marriage thing. They are very different.

 
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Miss Starfish (message)  1,924 posts, Buzzing bee

newport nuptials=starfish….forgot I was on my old account!

 
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Miss Octopus (message)  1,446 posts, Bumble bee

I thought Portia de Rossi explained the importance of her marriage to Ellen DeGeneres very articulately. She said something along the lines of, with domestic partnerships, your person is defined as your “wife,” not your wife. When you are legally married to someone, she’s not your quote unquote wife, you know? She’s your wife. Fact. Legally.

Hope that makes sense written out? It’s hard to get the point across without the use of air quotes :)

PS, you and Fancee are FRIGGIN CUTE in these pics!

 
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brittanymichelle (message)  878 posts, Busy bee

that would confuse me too to be honest.. is it a state to state or insurance company to insurance company, that will allow you to add her to your policy? j/w cause i really wish i had known this long ago! we would have become official domestic partners so i could piggy back his insurance! but really, he is my domestic partner anyway because like you said, and this is funny too, we support each other(not always financially for me, cause i’m not always employed) and emotionally(unless one of us is hormonal, then whoever is hormonal get’s the supporting,lol) but yay for having a wedding, people shouldn’t have to settle to domestic partnership if they want an official marriage!

 
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CrisJM (message)  24 posts, Newbee

Thank you for this post. I learn so many things while browsing for wedding ideas! I hate to sound uninformed, but I had no idea of the differences. My fiance & I actually have a common-law marriage so he could be on my insurance. I’m not quite sure how that fits in. Thank you again, everyone on this post, for being willing to spread the info!

 
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lady brett

congrats! insurance is a damn good thing to have. (wish we could do that here)

and thank you for putting the difference between partnerships and marriage out there. i understand your frustration, too. it drives me crazy that *everyone* we’ve mentioned our engagement to has asked “oh, so where are you going?” (as in: to a different state where gay marriage is not unconstitutional).

it makes me mad that people only see marriage as “real” if you have a piece of legal paperwork, even though, in our case, it would grant us exactly *no* legal rights. and no matter where you live, it can’t grant you any federal rights (and that is a big deal).

all that aside, it’s awesome to see the straight couples with domestic partnerships speak up - i think it is an amazing option to have open for people who do not want to get married for whatever reason, but need some of the (minor) legal recognitions.

 
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Adriana Barrantes

Well, I live in Costa Rica, im bisexual and we dont have any recognition AT ALL. It is really frustrating. However domestically partnership is only for straight couples and used very often. I was domestically partnered to my hubby for 4 years before getting married. I see a lot of injustice since we dont have the option to even that when we have a gay partner and most of my gay friends go thru hell when sick because of the same :(

 
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Mrs. Penguin (message)  3,506 posts, Sugar bee

Haha. Your qualifications for becoming a domestic partner are funny. And OMG I almost abbreviated domestic partner to “DP” but refrained. OMG I just did it anyway.

 
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Mrs. Penguin (message)  3,506 posts, Sugar bee

and edited to add… And I didn’t mean to make too much light of Domestic Partnership vs. Marriage because you DESERVE to get married!

 
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Kat

Congratulations you guys! Happy for you!

 
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formarriage

I’m going to go against the crowd here and say that I do not think that homosexual couples should be married. I am by no means trying to rain on your parade, but I do believe in the Bible and I do believe that God has planned marriage to be between a man and a woman.

Now, I’m sure I’ll get a ton of “you’re a bigot” comments, blah blah blah. but I am not. I treat homosexuals the same as everyone else. I think that EVERYONE should have the same rights as an individual. I would never shout at a rally and tell homosexuals how horrible they are. The fact is, that I believe homosexuality to be a sin. I do not think that I have never sinned. I believe that we are ALL sinners. I KNOW that God is the only person that is accountable for deciding our fate.

I do, however, believe that the word “marriage” is a religious sacrament. I believe that this sacrament should be entered into by a man and woman for purposes of fulfilling their goals as christians. I don’t even believe that heterosexual couple’s should get married if they are not of a Godly faith. Really, what is the point? If you have to find an officiant just for the purposes of marrying you, I do not think that you should be getting marired. They should just, then, undergo domestic partnership.

Furthermore, homosexual relationships have an even higher divorce rate than heterosexual relationships (which I didn’t know was even possible!). This article is helpful explaining that:
http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS04C02

To sum up, I am happy that you two were able to embark on domestic partnership. I do feel that there are some rights that domestic partnership gives you that is similar to those found through marriage. However, I hold fast that marriage should be for a man and woman in a relationship centered around God. That is my opinion.

 
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Ms Seahorse, Boston Age and Occupation: 25, Veterinary Jane-of-all-trades Fiancee's Age and Occupation: 36, former non-profit fundraiser in search of something better Engagement Date: October 17, 2009 Wedding Date: September 2010 Venue: Fort Pond Lodge About Me: By day I'm a cat-wrangler, vet tech assistant, pet-sitter, receptionist, and pre-vet student, but the rest of the time, I'm a former-roller-derby girl turned dedicated-wedding planner. I love reading, writing, bicycles, animals, roller skating, and antique-y things of all sorts. I'm a vegetarian who likes spicy foods, while Fiancee Seahorse is a meat eater who does not like spices. We live outside Boston with our menagerie: a fifty pound dog, a one-eyed, seventeen-toed, toothless cat, and a perfectly put together cat who has a penchant for pooping near rather than in her litter box. In addition to planning our small lake-side wedding, we enjoy running around with the puppy, playing board games (Scrabble, anyone?), having little adventures, talking about how we should really clean the house more, and maintaining our little garden of vegetables and wedding flowers.

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