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Ms. Potato Chips, Boston/Narragansett RI Age and Occupation: 29, PhD Student Fiance's Age and Occupation: 30, Personal Trainer/Business Owner/Physical Therapy Assistant Engagement Date: January 1, 2009 Wedding Date: June 2010 Venue: The Narragansett Towers About Me: A semi-professional bookworm, if I could be a literary character I’d be a cross between Jo March and Jane Eyre, only better accessorized and much lazier. My hobbies include sleeping in, seasonal brews, running, Trader Joe’s, and watching Unwrapped and Good Eats with Mr. Potato Chips. I harbor an irrational fear of tulle, crafts, things that are fussy, and overuse of the phrase "Your Special Day". After a year or seven together, down the aisle we go, slouching toward adulthood and planning a Rhodie party with equal parts whimsy, cheer, and pizza.
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As a bride, I get the sense that I’m supposed to care about minutiae. And I do care about some of it. I care about vendors showing up on time, how dark my undereye circles are, and how much pizza I’ll be able to eat in a wedding dress. I care about dancing our first dance to Ingrid Michaelson’s “The Way I Am” and my hair not being frizzy. I care—probably an unhealthy amount—about not inconveniencing anyone; I care about our guests have a rocking time (a good thing to care about).

But some things I can’t bring myself to care about, even if I try. This is a story about one of those things.

This might be a hot-button issue so I’ll prepare myself for nay-sayers. It’s okay. Difference of opinions is one of those things that makes our nation great, and keeps wedding planning interesting.

A couple days ago, Mr. Potato Head and I found ourselves in a men’s clothing store—let’s call it Svenn’s Beerhouse. We were looking for a white French-cuffed shirt for his suit.

“I’m assuming your dress is white,” said the salesman.

“Well, it’s ivory,” was my answer.

<<Record scratch>>

Everyone in the store froze and an ominous silence fell upon Sven’s Beerhouse. The salesman gave me an aghast double-take, as if noticing for the first time that I had crawled out from a gutter and into his Beerhouse.

Regaining his composure, the salesman spoke. “If your dress is ivory, then he should wear an ivory shirt, not white.”

He managed to make the word “white” sound dirty.

Mr. PH and I glanced at each other because, honestly, this white-vs-ivory thing had never occurred to us.

“Well,” said I. “It’s okay. I don’t mind if we don’t match.” Mr. PH nodded.

Salesman folded his arms. “Your dress will look like someone spilled apple juice on it,” he said. “It will look dirty next to a white shirt.”

We just looked at him, unsure how to proceed.

Wanting to be amenable and hide my bridal naivete, I asked to see the ivory shirt.

“That looks yellow to me,” said Mr. PH. He is color blind, which is sad. There’s nothing you can do about that. Even if everyone says “ivory,” he will still see yellow and he didn’t want to wear yellow.

“Ivory looks better on me,” I countered. “And white looks better on him, so….”

“In all my years in the industry I have never seen a bride wear ivory and a groom wear white,” said the increasingly agitated salesman. “I’m speaking from years of experience. Your dress will look dirty. And this day is all about you. In your photos and on your video your dress will look dingy.”

“But the groomsmen are wearing white shirts,” I realized aloud. “And so are the ring bearers. It’s a little too late to change all this.”

Salesman shrugged in a “it’s your funeral” type of way.

We left without a shirt.

When we got home we were watching TV when Mr. PH said, “Oh wait, I already own a white French cuffed shirt” and procured a nice white button-down from his closet.

The moral? I don’t care about white and ivory. In pictures, I think my dress will look ivory and Mr. PH’s shirt will look white and the world will keep turning. I don’t mean to put on blast anyone who does care about white vs. ivory, so if you do, that’s cool. And if you, like us, had never considered it before (especially if your wedding is in 20-something days), then you might want to think about it. Or not. I’d say “not.” Just don’t let the salesmen at Sven’s Beerhouse catch you unawares.

Dare I ask, where do you stand on the Great Ivory vs. White Debate?

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Mrs. Arboretum
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Mrs. Arboretum (message)  105 posts, Blushing bee

My dress is an antiqued ivoryish color and I want the Mr. to wear white simply because I think it will look crisper. Who cares if they’re a different shade?

 
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hrev2010
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hrev2010 (message)  416 posts, Helper bee

I’m wearing white and he and the groomsmen are wearing ivory. I’m fine with it! lol Besides they are wearing a tie,vest and jacket so you won’t even see much of the ivory.

 
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aabride

I’ll be getting married this weekend in an ivory dress and (gasp) the groom will be in a white shirt! I also had the exact same discussion! I’m sure we are not the only ones!

 
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denverbirdlet (message)  750 posts, Busy bee

i honestly don’t think that anyone will notice the difference and the only place you’ll be able to tell they aren’t the same color is in reaaally close-up portrait photos. my dress is ivory, and my FI will wear white or ivory for his shirt (whichever we can get for less moolah!)

 
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Dragonsus
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Dragonsus (message)  1,194 posts, Bumble bee

There was a debate???? I wore an ivory gown, my hubby wore a white shirt with a silver vest - in no way did my gown look “Dirty” !!! Especially if he’s wearing a jacket over the shirt anyway, it really doesn’t matter!

 
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Miss Sweet Tea
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Miss Sweet Tea (message)  289 posts, Helper bee

Well, honestly I never even thought of this. I am wearing Ivory and I just assumed guys shirts only came in white…lol SoI guess its not that big of an issue for me because I never even thought of it!

 
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farmersdaughter
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farmersdaughter (message)  1,675 posts, Bumble bee

I’m wearing ivory, and my groom is wearing a white shirt. To be honest, white shirts are whiter than my dress, but ivory shirts are more yellow than my dress - neither matches perfectly, so I just had my groom pick the shirt he liked better!

 
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PinkPinstripes
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PinkPinstripes (message)  1,654 posts, Bumble bee

Won’t he have on a tux jacket anyway? So it’s not like the white and ivory will right next to each other, right?

 
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Kate W

One of my clients told me she had this same discussion at her fiance’s tux fitting, and came to me as the wedding photog to arbitrate. I told her everything would be fine if he wore a white shirt and she wore an ivory dress. Bottom line: On the wedding day, they looked great together and so did the wedding photos. Definitely do what you want to do!

 
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hotchildinthecity
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hotchildinthecity (message)  3,710 posts, Sugar bee

I’m wearing ivory and he’s wearing white. We both thought the ivory shirt looked dirty. And the white will look wayyy better with his gray tux and tie.

Funny thing is, the guy at MW recommended the white shirt even though I had ivory. He said that most people think the ivory shirt looks dirty or discolored.

 
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sapphirebride
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sapphirebride (message)  1,747 posts, Bumble bee

Yep, same situation. Ivory dress, white shirts. I just don’t think it’s going to matter.

 
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kfowler
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kfowler (message)  44 posts, Newbee

It seems like every bride I talk to considers this when they wear an ivory wedding dress. I always say that this day may only come once, so do whatever you feel is right and what will look the best to you.

 
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Miss Sewing (message)  2,701 posts, Sugar bee

so mr. ph has a magical closet with the just-right-dress-clothes too? hehe. i didn’t bother matching mr. sew’s shirt to my dress. I think they are both white, but there are so many shades these days it’s hard to tell. I think you’ll be perfectly fine!

 
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Mrs. Pug
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Mrs. Pug (message)  3,753 posts, Honey bee

wow. i didn’t even think about this. i hope after those few hours it hasn’t crossed your mind again, except in a funny way. not worth it.

 
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Mrs. Cupcake (message)  1,456 posts, Bumble bee

I have seen this debate many times over the years, and I think it’s so silly that we’re all expected to “match”! I could see if you had an ivory gown and he wanted to wear a white TUX, but come on now. My dress was champagne (somewhere between white and ivory, I guess! More pink undertones than yellow…) and Mr. Cupcake wore a white shirt. Not a single guest asked me if I had spilled apple juice on my dress ;) Plus, I think men’s ivory shirts definitely do tend to look REALLY yellow, and I think that will stand out way more in photos (not in a good way).

So my thoughts? Coordinate — yes. Match — no. This is not 1987. Our scrunchies need not match our Hammer pants. And our wedding dresses need not match our men. Huzzah.

 
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Shoppingdixie (message)  265 posts, Helper bee

The guy at our tux place said the same thing about my dress looking dirty but he suggested an off-white shirt for the men not Ivory.

I been trying to keep things in perspective by saying this to myself. “It’s my wedding. I can do whatever I want”

 
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Mrs. Bear Cub
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Mrs. Bear Cub (message)  1,566 posts, Bumble bee

I too could care less about white and ivory.
Wait - it crossed my mind for about 1×10^(-12) seconds. nope. still don’t care.
I wore ivory, he wore white. The world didn’t end!
(and there’s no way your dress will look dirty - because you’ll be in it, my dear! ;) )

 
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Sea Glass (message)  27 posts, Newbee

I am so with everyone here–I LOVE the crispness of a white shirt against a black suit, so that’s what my fiance will be wearing. At the same time, I LOVE the way that a slight ivory looks on me for my wedding dress, so that’s what I’ll be wearing. There’s no way that this has ever looked “dirty” on a beautifully happy, blissfully newly married couple on their wedding day. And I actually tend to care about minutaie…

 
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moderndaisy
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moderndaisy (message)  6,607 posts, Bee Keeper

The same thing happened to us although the salesman didn’t try to make US feel dirty! Goodness! I wanted a white dress, but apparently they are almost impossible to find so settled for ivory. FI was NOT about to settle on his shirt, he prefers things crisp and clean and was horrified by the idea of wearing Ivory.. Long story short we are a white and ivory couple and I couldn’t care less!

 
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Mrs.Krings
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Mrs.Krings (message)  43 posts, Newbee

WOW that salesman was disrespectful! MY dress is “champagne” so its darker than ivory! and my FH is wearing white!! I dont see the big deal at all. and my miniture bride is wearing white (you try and find a little dress in champagne) and my ring bearer is wearing a white and ivory tux. so that guy wouldnt want to see me! lol

 
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Ms. Potato Chips, Boston/Narragansett RI Age and Occupation: 29, PhD Student Fiance's Age and Occupation: 30, Personal Trainer/Business Owner/Physical Therapy Assistant Engagement Date: January 1, 2009 Wedding Date: June 2010 Venue: The Narragansett Towers About Me: A semi-professional bookworm, if I could be a literary character I’d be a cross between Jo March and Jane Eyre, only better accessorized and much lazier. My hobbies include sleeping in, seasonal brews, running, Trader Joe’s, and watching Unwrapped and Good Eats with Mr. Potato Chips. I harbor an irrational fear of tulle, crafts, things that are fussy, and overuse of the phrase "Your Special Day". After a year or seven together, down the aisle we go, slouching toward adulthood and planning a Rhodie party with equal parts whimsy, cheer, and pizza.

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