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Ms Seahorse, Boston Age and Occupation: 25, Veterinary Jane-of-all-trades Fiancee's Age and Occupation: 36, former non-profit fundraiser in search of something better Engagement Date: October 17, 2009 Wedding Date: September 2010 Venue: Fort Pond Lodge About Me: By day I'm a cat-wrangler, vet tech assistant, pet-sitter, receptionist, and pre-vet student, but the rest of the time, I'm a former-roller-derby girl turned dedicated-wedding planner. I love reading, writing, bicycles, animals, roller skating, and antique-y things of all sorts. I'm a vegetarian who likes spicy foods, while Fiancee Seahorse is a meat eater who does not like spices. We live outside Boston with our menagerie: a fifty pound dog, a one-eyed, seventeen-toed, toothless cat, and a perfectly put together cat who has a penchant for pooping near rather than in her litter box. In addition to planning our small lake-side wedding, we enjoy running around with the puppy, playing board games (Scrabble, anyone?), having little adventures, talking about how we should really clean the house more, and maintaining our little garden of vegetables and wedding flowers.
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Would you have went with another venue had the owner NOT dealt with gay couples before? This is something I’ve been thinking about lately b/c there seems to be a real emphasis around the blogosphere on vetted gay-friendly vendors and yet a part of me thinks that maybe some really awesome allies just haven’t had the chance (pleasure) of working with a gay couple yet. So everyone’s gotta start somewhere, ya know? Would love to hear your thoughts!

This is a really interesting question! Thanks, Miss Stripes, for bringing it up.

First, it’s really, really important to us that the people we work with are comfortable working with us - us as a lesbian couple, us as a crunchy couple, us as a couple on a relatively small budget. Us as a couple of women who don’t always agree with each other and often want something in a very. specific. way. if you know what I mean. Again, top priority = comfort.

So, not having worked with gay or lesbian couples before is so not a deal breaker.

I’m sure lots of people haven’t been given the amazing opportunity to meet or work with people as awesome as gays and lesbians are. We emailed one wedding coordinator (before we found out our caterer has one built into the package) and they hadn’t worked with any same-sex couples before. But here was their response:

“We haven’t worked with lesbian couples before, but would love for you both to be the first!”

I loved that they included both of us in their response (I may be the one writing about all of our planning, but we are doing this *together* - that’s the whole point), that they were eager to work with us and talk about our vision for the day (ugh, did I just say “vision for the day”? Sorry.), and that she was very open to the ideas I had put out there. I think one reason to ask these questions is to get a feel for how people respond to these questions and these situations. If someone panics or looks nervous when I say, “Have you worked with a same-sex couple before?” it is cause for concern, because I don’t want anyone at our wedding being uncomfortable because we’re a same-sex couple.

That said, our vendors get extra points for being gay. We did not search out gay vendors or even vendors who were advertised as “gay-friendly” or anything like that - we just looked for people we liked, and music or food or a space that we liked, depending on what it was we were looking for. After we had decided to go with our caterer, he came out to us - points for him! But it wasn’t what made us decide to go with him - it’s because the tart he made was delicious and my mouth still waters every time I think about it.

I also keep reading about places that offer same-sex wedding planning, and one of the things they list as a reason to have someone else doing the planning is so that you don’t have to come out to each and every prospective vendor. But the thing is, that feels like an important part of the process for me. I want to see people’s reactions, or lack of reactions. I want to say, over and over, I am getting married to a woman. Here I am, here we are, and what flower arrangements can you make for us?

Since I came out - whoa, a whole few more posts, not a story for this one - I have mostly been very comfortable coming out to new people, but I admit that there have been some people, coworkers mostly, that I mostly-happily allowed to go on believing that I just hadn’t found the right man yet. There have been some people I found on Facebook that I did not add as a friend because I didn’t want them to know, for fear they might not like me anymore. And - this is kind of shocking - I kept it a secret when I first joined roller derby because I thought everyone else was straight.

Once you’re done laughing, continue reading.

Since getting engaged and doing this whole wedding thing, pretty much all of my fear around coming out is gone. I’m getting married! And it’s awesome! And I’m really, really lucky. And anyone who can get that is someone that I would be happy to work with.

What are your deal breakers with vendors? Are there any hurdles that are tough for you to explain in the intro? Have any of you had similar experiences “coming out” about something?

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13 Responses to “Vetting the (Gay-Friendly?) Vendors”

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sironel
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sironel (message)  404 posts, Helper bee

It’s not nearly as much of a struggle, but we face the same thing when we tell people we are having a Halloween wedding, outside (read: not in a church) and with skulls instead of flowers as centerpieces. But we have found the same liberation in telling people and gauging their reactions. Some people think it’s fun (like we do) But others immediately try to sway us in a different direction or urge us to turn to the church and scratch the whole halloween thing, and those are the ones we pass up, because we don’t need scowling on our wedding day.

 
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shaydenise (message)  1,151 posts, Bumble bee

My deal breaker is being lied to. We asked specific questions, got the answers and signed the contract for our venue. Now nearly a year later, we have found out that the venue lied about said questions and we’re canceling the wedding with them and looking for a new place. These particular lies are worth a couple grand, but even if they were a hundred bucks I would still cancel on principle. We don’t need those bad vibes on the day of our marriage.

 
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thebrigade
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thebrigade (message)  42 posts, Newbee

I have a lot of tattoos and the major deal breaker for me was having vendors talk to my tattoos. I wanted to snap my fingers and remind them where my face was. You would be surprised how often this happened. They just couldn’t stop staring and that not only made me uncomfortable but I knew they wouldn’t understand what I was looking for.

 
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ms.tangerine
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ms.tangerine (message)  15 posts, Newbee

For me, it is telling vendors that we are both divorced and this is a second marriage. Some I have let go on thinking this is a first marriage, but most I (eventually) liked seeing a reaction from when I told them. I felt like I needed them to be supportive of the situation before I booked them.

I completely agree with you that just because a vendor hasn’t worked with a lesbian or gay couple that they wouldn’t be an awesome vendor and so excited to make you their first :) Nice topic!

 
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Miss Stripes (message)  1,063 posts, Bumble bee

Hee Hee! You know I SO totally meant to write an entire blog post about this/in response to you, and never did! UH OH! Anyway I definitely agree that comfort is KEY. I don’t think anyone needs any additional stress/pressure on their wedding day b/c vendors aren’t comfortable (and thereby make you uncomfortable) because of your sexual orientation/tattoos/budget/oranythingelse.
AND although lots of our vendors haven’t worked with gay couples before, they are super excited to work with us and have gone out of their way to make us comfortable. Our DOC simply changed our contract to read “bride” “bride,” but that was huge! :)

 
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DaisyO
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DaisyO (message)  10 posts, Newbee

Awesome post!!! Smart and insightful and personal! Good luck with the rest of your vendor search (if there’s anything left to book)

 
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future.mrs.v
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future.mrs.v (message)  358 posts, Helper bee

i know it isn’t exactly the same, but for mr.v and i it’s super important that our vendors take us seriously (duh!). being young, we often get judged (i’m 24, he’s 25 - but i guess we look much younger?) and vendors assume we have no money. now we’re not exactly rolling in the benjamins, but we both do alright. so please don’t tell me what we can and can’t afford. show us what you have to offer and then we’ll decide, kthanks.

 
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Lozza (message)  568 posts, Busy bee

I love that you thought all the roller derby folks were straight :)

 
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Miss Octopus (message)  1,446 posts, Bumble bee

What an interesting, thoughtful post, Seahorse. I appreciated hearing your thought process in how it was important to you to come out to your vendors. A close friend of mine always (good-humoredly) scoffs at the concept of National Coming Out Day, because, as he puts it, every day of his life is Coming Out Day.

 
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carignane (message)  23 posts, Newbee

There’s actually a wedding fair exclusively for same-sex couples (with proceeds going to support marriage equality) this Sunday in NYC!

http://www.illegalweddingfair.com

 
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corleycolorado
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corleycolorado (message)  133 posts, Blushing bee

miss seahorse, oh man, are you playin my song in this post. i have experienced a whole lotta “i don’t have a problem with your lifestyle” kind of responses, which is super lame. i don’t want to work with people who simply “don’t have a problem” with glbt people. especially when i phrase the question as “are you glbt friendly?” to get that response does not say your are glbt friendly, it says you are putting up with it so you can make some sweet moolah (not with uncle rico though).

 
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violarulz
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violarulz (message)  142 posts, Blushing bee

I think we feel the same way about booking vendors who are familiar with Jewish weddings as you are with gay/lesbian weddings: the most important thing is being comfortable with the vendors, then we give them bonus points for being Jewish themselves, having worked other big Jewish weddings, being familiar with our venue, and being being local and/or eco conscious (for those who can be).

 
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bass lover (message)  87 posts, Worker bee

lol! “That said, our vendors get extra points for being gay.” I love it! You slay me!!! Your wedding is going to be off da hook..I can’t wait!

In this economy, people should just be greatful that they have potential clients in the wedding industry..throw open the doors wide open and welcome all, is my feeling…

 

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Ms Seahorse, Boston Age and Occupation: 25, Veterinary Jane-of-all-trades Fiancee's Age and Occupation: 36, former non-profit fundraiser in search of something better Engagement Date: October 17, 2009 Wedding Date: September 2010 Venue: Fort Pond Lodge About Me: By day I'm a cat-wrangler, vet tech assistant, pet-sitter, receptionist, and pre-vet student, but the rest of the time, I'm a former-roller-derby girl turned dedicated-wedding planner. I love reading, writing, bicycles, animals, roller skating, and antique-y things of all sorts. I'm a vegetarian who likes spicy foods, while Fiancee Seahorse is a meat eater who does not like spices. We live outside Boston with our menagerie: a fifty pound dog, a one-eyed, seventeen-toed, toothless cat, and a perfectly put together cat who has a penchant for pooping near rather than in her litter box. In addition to planning our small lake-side wedding, we enjoy running around with the puppy, playing board games (Scrabble, anyone?), having little adventures, talking about how we should really clean the house more, and maintaining our little garden of vegetables and wedding flowers.

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