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Mrs. Mary Jane, Grand Forks, ND Age and Occupation: 26, Instructional Designer Fiance's Age and Occupation: 26, Lead Programmer Engagement Date: February 28, 2009 Wedding Date: September 2009 Venue: City Hall About Me: I'm a career woman on the surface and a homemaker at heart. I love fast cars and high heels, and my favorite food is cake. Mr. Mary Jane and I are both full-time employees and students, and we just bought our first house. We love to curl up on the couch with buttery popcorn, Sour Patch Kids, and the latest Netflix arrival -- whenever we can get a break from everyday life.
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Hi gals! I’m kind of back! At least… for a few posts. Because soon, Mr. Mary Jane and I will finally be taking our honeymoon! And I know you’ll want to be hearing about that — especially since we’re planning to visit a brand-spanking-new resort in Jamaica.

Are You Quick to Criticize When Traveling? :  wedding grand forks honeymoon Entranc

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Now, here’s the thing.

Like I said, the Secrets Wild Orchid/St. James resort is new. It opened in late March and while the approval rating is going up steadily, most reviews are still so-so. I’ve been monitoring message boards, Facebook, and Trip Advisor since opening day, and I have seen a few trends that have left me feeling a wee bit unsettled.

The continuing trends seem to be:

  • Things broken/non-functional in the rooms.
  • Service very slow and/or staff aren’t well-trained or are spread too thin.
  • The resort is overbooked and people are waiting for several hours and either not receiving the types of rooms they booked, or being transferred to other resorts.

There are a couple of different ways I could handle this information: ignore it, freak out, or cautiously prepare. I chose the third option.

First, I always remember to take online reviews with a grain of salt. Stalking resort or venue reviews online is a lot like looking up medical symptoms online. You’re bound to find the worst of the worst, and you’re bound to assume the worst for yourself. (”Hmmm. Paper cut. Headache. Foot cramp. OMG I HAVE FLESH-EATING BACTERIA!”) So generally I find that the one-star reviews are not helpful. I skim them, but I have found that most people who write them were royally pissed off about one aspect of their stay (maybe a rude waiter or something) and therefore decided to flame the resort online upon returning home. The five-star reviews are similarly skewed: some part of their experience was so awesome that it sugarcoated the rest of the stay (”The toilet never worked and we had to pee off the balcony but WOW, their roast chicken was excellent!”). Point is: GRAIN OF SALT. I highly doubt the resort is “HORRIBLE HORRIBLE HORRIBLE WORST PLACE EVER”, for example.

Mr. Mary Jane and I (maybe me more than him - but both of us to some extent) are pretty particular about things — especially when we are away from home. I have been known to become annoyed over one thing, and then let additional annoyances build and build until I am one Mad Mary Jane. And, you wouldn’t like me when I’m angry. Grr.

But is that how we want to spend our honeymoon? All pissed off and put-upon? Definitely not. So I’m trying to go in to this vacation with an open mind, but I’m also taking steps to prepare. Regarding that list of concerns/trends I made above, there is only one that would really irk me.

So some of the staff or restaurants are slow. I’m not there to be waited on, and I can understand how it is to be new at your job and expected to know everything. Also, we’re going to be there for 10 days, just chilling. We can read our books and relax while we wait for services, or we can get those services (i.e. beverages) ourselves. And as far as certain amenities or functionalities being iffy in our rooms? Well, something like no running water would demand a swift repair, but lack of cable TV or a malfunctioning bathroom fan certainly won’t kill us. [Insert Death-Without-Bathroom-Fan Poop Joke here.]

Nope, the only thing I think would really be upsetting is the possible overbooking of the hotel. I have read several accounts of people — particularly people booked into the ’Preferred Club’ areas of the resort (which we are) — being told there is no room for them and they must be downgraded. Vouchers for spa services are given for compensation, which is nice and all, but dammit! I want my fancy-ass room with beach-front Jacuzzi tub on my porch! I want my top-shelf in-room bar! None of this swim-out-suite business. I specifically did NOT want a swim-out room, so I hope they don’t transfer us in to one.

We did a lot of research before booking this resort. I don’t mean to be stuffy about it, but I do want the type of room I booked. I selected it very carefully from the many options available, after all. It’s not as though we do this every year, so we do want the luxuries we marveled over when we made our final choice to stay here.

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But with enough breakfast champagne, I might not care about the room type either; [source]

I don’t think there is anything we can do to guarantee 100% that our trip will meet our every expectation, but I have taken some actions to prepare…

I inquired with a professional.

We booked our trip through a travel company (All-Inclusive Outlet, if you’re wondering), and part of their service includes an assigned travel agent who is available to answer your questions. I emailed ours recently, expressing my concerns about possible overbooking. To paraphrase, my email said:

It’s getting close to our stay at Secrets Wild Orchid in Jamaica, and I have a concern. Looking online, a lot of recent travelers to the resort are complaining that the resorts — specifically the Preferred Club & higher-level suites — have been overbooked and they were not being given rooms equivalent to what they booked. Have any other travelers who booked vacations through your company had issues with claiming their reservations at Secrets Wild Orchid (or St. James, for that matter)? I am nervous about this, and wondering if there any precaution we can take against this. Will you or someone from your company be calling to ’confirm’ our room prior to our arrival, or is this something my husband or I should do before we travel? I want to ensure that the hotel is expecting us and is prepared to honor our reservation, especially given that we are going to be arriving fairly late in the day after traveling for over 13 hours to get there. Thanks in advance for your advice!

Within a few hours, she wrote back (also paraphrased):

No, we have not had an issue with this. Our contract with the hotels says that if anyone is to be moved, we have to get a pre-notification so we can check with the client prior to traveling. We have not been getting calls regarding this. You also have a 24-hour customer care number to contact if you arrive at the resort and have ANY kind of issue. Have a great trip!

So there’s my answer. A contract with the resort and 24-hour customer care. I felt a lot better after receiving this email, but I do think I will still place a call directly to the resort a few days prior to our arrival, just to make everything is copacetic.

Now, what about personal comforts?

I connected with other travelers.

Thank God for the Internet, right?! I mentioned earlier I’d been reading a lot of message boards. I’ve also posted on some. I learned the answers to questions like:

Do we need to bring our own beach blankets/towels? (No, there are plenty.)

Aside from the obvious, what are some necessities? (Bug spray, insulated cups or drink holders)

Is cash or credit card preferred? (Cash (small bills), but credit cards are OK and ATMs are available.)

Knowing ’insider tips’ like this will help us pack appropriately for our trip, so I am glad I asked!

But what if stuff still goes awry?

I vowed to adjust my attitude before we travel.

I saw many people on the boards and review sites stating that their vacations were completely and utterly ruined. Some demanded transfers to other resorts, and some even came home early. I recognize that I *am* the type of person who would be put off by major vacation snafus, but I hope that by being proactive and prepared before we travel I’ll be ready to relax when we arrive. (And come on: can it really be that bad? I mean we’ll be in a tropical paradise, away from work, school, and all the stress that comes with everyday life!) If things go wrong, I will try understand that it’s nothing personal, and be confident that the staff (and the travel agency) will do what they can to make it right.

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Even if some things aren’t perfect, we’ll still be HERE. How can we be crabbypants?; [source]

Also, if there’s one thing I learned from being a retail clerk in college: You catch more flies with honey. Something tells me that those with a forgiving (yet firm) attitude are more likely to be helped (and more quickly) than those who demand, insult, and cause a scene. Time will tell, and y’all know I’ll be honest with you about our experience when we return!

Up next, I’ll tell you about some of the things I’ve bought in preparation for our first ever tropical adventure!

But bringing us back to the title of this post, I asked if you’re a critical traveler (and then admitted that I certainly can be!). What would you do if your vacation wasn’t all you’d imagined in your head? If your room didn’t look just like the picture on the resort’s website? If the spa was closed for cleaning, or if the snorkeling instructor was taking a week off? Would you freak the hell out, or would you take it all in stride? Would you demand compensation? Would you complain up and down and declare your honeymoon completely ruined? Or are you more likely to say: “Well, it was unfortunate that the seafood restaurant was closed, but we had some great Mexican food!”

What’s your take on troubles while traveling?

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tea
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tea (message)  7,288 posts, Bee Keeper

that’s a very good approach you took. though since this is still a very new hotel, i’d give them the benefit of the doubt to work out the kinks. i really do hope you enjoy your honeymoon!

 
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redbullfanatic
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redbullfanatic (message)  489 posts, Helper bee

I work for a company that remodels very high end hotels, boutique hotels, restaurants, clubs etc….and if a place is fairly new they need a year to two years to get their *hit in gear. Tiles in the bathroom could be coming up because they opened the room too soon, water pressure may not be right blah blah blah. I suggest just going with the flow and if something happens that isn’t totally honeymoon perfect, is it really that important? Go in expecting that they have a lot of kinks to work out and if something bugs you, go to the white sandy beach and chill.

 
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Mrs. Spaniel (message)  6,792 posts, Bee Keeper

I have pretty low expectations when I travel, but if I splurged on a room and got downgraded, I’d be PISSED!!! It would be hard to recover from. I’ll keep my fingers crossed for you!

 
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Miss Trail Mix (message)  6,328 posts, Bee Keeper

I definitely expect to get what I booked but I’m usually pretty flexible if the hotel offers compensation!

 
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nannettenicole
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nannettenicole (message)  169 posts, Blushing bee

I too have my honeymoon booked at secrets wild orchid in the preferred club and i have been reading the same stuff you are. For the most part the reviews have been improving but i can’t help but to worry a bit.

Hopefully it will work out in the end for us both!

 
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ecomaha
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ecomaha (message)  555 posts, Busy bee

yea for secrets! my husband and i stayed at the secrets maroma beach in mexico in october for our honeymoon and it was AMAZING! so much so that we are planning to go for our 2nd anniversary to another secrets location - hopefully your’s! i have to say, the staff was awesome and so friendly and eager to help. the resort is spotless and the food is great. i think you are going to LOVE it and never want to come back - just like us :)

 
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prettylittlemess
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prettylittlemess (message)  68 posts, Worker bee

I stayed at Secrets two days after the St. James portion of the resort opened in April. I’ve been awaiting your review!

We actually got a room in the Wild Orchid, even though we booked the St. James. I had a WONDERFUL time, and never saw anyone actively having a horrible time during my stay. I heard rumors of problems, but I never first hand witnessed anything.

I took the “la la la I can’t hear you!” approach to all the criticism. I felt like a lot of the Secrets related stress was coming from people worrying and expressing their fears on the Internet before going on their trip. After my stay, I knew I got a fantastic deal on a resort that probably would have been out of my price range if it weren’t for the deals they were running. I just couldn’t be too critical in the end.

Sorry this became a Secrets Montego Bay-centric comment!

 
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naangel55
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naangel55 (message)  3,054 posts, Sugar bee

I think I am somewhat easygoing about changes but it really depends on what it is. We booked a swim up ocean view room for our Honeymoon and if didnt get that and got “upgraded” to a suite we didnt want without the swim up I wouldve been pissed! And some vouchers at the spa wouldnt have really helped either. Little things like one of the restaurants being closed would be upsetting but not upsetting enough to ruin the rest of my stay.

 
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TenThouBride

I wouldn’t worry! As you said, take it with a grain of salt. The only people who generally get online and write the reviews are people who were disappointed in one way or another.

Especially because they’re new, I would think they would be working REALLY hard to make your stay go really smoothly!

I am sure you’ll have a fabulous time…the best thing you guys can do is have a positive attitude, and should anything go wrong, laugh about it together…don’t let it ruin your vacation!

Have a great trip!

 
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Mrs. Hamster (message)  4,046 posts, Honey bee

Great approach! I admit I’m a pretty easygoing traveller, though when things go wrong, I definitely try to employ the “bees with honey” rule to get things done!

 
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Miss Elephant
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Miss Elephant (message)  6,182 posts, Bee Keeper

That’s a very good approach that you have! I’ll admit that if things don’t go right on a trip (that I have put a lot of planning into) I would be very upset. I love your “bees with honey” rule!

 
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Jillian

I’m booked at Secrets in Riviera Maya, Mexico for my August honeymoon. I hope it’s great!

 
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D.Marie
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D.Marie (message)  2,484 posts, Buzzing bee

You did some great research and got some great answers. Its really nice that you posted this for other brides. We made out really well at our hotel in Naples, FL though we did have some ants in our kitchen. We told the front desk and they seemed to go away for the most part but there were still maybe one or two but not as bad. But the room was nice and clean, beautiful bedroom, great view with a balcony…view of the golf and the beach from our room. I did check out some reviews of the hotel and there were some ppl that really loved it and some that didnt like the service…but you have to really check it out for yourself if it has mostly good reviews and four or three stars.

PS Ive heard on the news about violence in Jamaica…so please be careful.

 
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Mrs. Mary Jane
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Mrs. Mary Jane (message)  1,970 posts, Buzzing bee

Thanks for all the great comments, every one!!

@nannettenicole: Excited for you! I will try to post my review soon after we get back (I looked up when your profile says your wedding is and we’ll be back before that!).

@D.Marie: Yeah, I’ve seen some of that violence stuff too. It’s mostly in Kingston, which is on the other side of the island, and an acquaintance of ours who is originally from Jamaica says not to worry about it at all - Kingston vs. Montego Bay is apparently like two different worlds — and we’re going to the RIGHT one. But still. We partially decided to go here instead of Mexico due to some problems that were going on down there. And now this. Ah well. We probably will stay on-resort most of the time anyway, and I assume they keep it pretty secure.

 
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LittlestBirds
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LittlestBirds (message)  2,605 posts, Sugar bee

I put a lot of stock in traveler reviews. It is definitely true that you get a lot more extreme opinions on review boards than an actual average of customer satisfaction, so my approach is to find the accommodations that were so overwhelmingly amazing that travelers felt compelled to go online and write about them. Almost universally, this occurs when the owners and staff had a great, friendly attitude. It’s amazing how much we as travelers are willing to pay for in terms of luxury items that crank up a hotel’s star rating, when what I’ve found to be true of most travelers is that what really inspires them to crow on the rooftops about their vacation was a warm personality among the people who made them feel at home. Sorry that’s a bit of a digression from your post, but that’s my nugget of wisdom from copious travel research: book where people say they felt like members of the family. A hard bed and a tiny bathroom are really not such a bad thing if you have a hotel owner who makes you breakfast himself and gushes with information about local attractions to hit. Well, knockout view helps too. :)

I think we’re pretty easygoing, to answer your question. After doing all that work and spending all that money to get somewhere, my goal is to derive as much enjoyment as possible out of my moments on vacation, and having a sour attitude is counterproductive in that respect. If it’s not working out, have another pina colada and look at the sunset.

 
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Mrs. Mary Jane
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Mrs. Mary Jane (message)  1,970 posts, Buzzing bee

@LittlestBirds: Dude. Another pina colada. AMEN TO THAT. I agree. Unfriendly staff definitely sway an opinion. Mr. MJ and I are pretty introvertive, so we’re not going to be offended if the staff don’t chat us up or anything… but it’d be good if they aren’t jerks!

 
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amariem25
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amariem25 (message)  3,733 posts, Sugar bee

There was a cockroach in our first condo during our honeymoon in Maui, the a/c wasn’t working, and the bed was as hard as a rock. I could have dealt with the bed and a/c, but the cockroach - no way, not on my honeymoon. I promptly tried to get a hold of the owner and after a day we did get to talk to him and he was fine with us leaving early and he gave us our money back for the nights we weren’t staying there. Thank god for that. I understand if things are so bad that people want to switch hotels, but flying home early - that’s crazy. I would never do that. I’d rather just sleep on the beach the whole time than go home early!

 
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nannettenicole
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nannettenicole (message)  169 posts, Blushing bee

@Mrs. Mary Jane: Awesome, I’m sure we will both have an excellent honeymoon!

 
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azwinelover
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azwinelover (message)  167 posts, Blushing bee

We spent our HM at Secrets Maroma Beach in October and everything was fantastic. Sure, room service was a little slow a couple times (hey, time just drags so slowly when you’re waiting for your coconut ice cream fix–best stuff in the world. If they have it at Wild Orchid, definitely try it), but it wasn’t enough to ruin our vacay. I can get ticked off pretty easily, but it’s hard to be ticked off about anything when you’re in a place that is THAT incredibly beautiful. It’s also hard to be upset in a place where your biggest dilemma is whether to spend your afternoon by the pool or at the beach!

Have fun!

 
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JOLIEM

I have been in a similar situation…
My fiance and I booked a vacation for a Secrets resort in the Maya Riveria immediately after it opened. And when I say immediately I mean 5 days after they opened their doors. Needless to stay, the resort wasn’t ready to open for our stay and they sent us to a sister resort (another Secrets). For our inconvienence, they gave us a free 5 nights back for the initial hotel we booked!
So here’s what I can tell through my experience with Secrets — things may not go as planned, but their customer service is AMAZING and they will be more than will help to accommodate you. Also, everything about the Secrets chain is great! We experienced nothing but the best of everything (food, customer service, beach, etc) on both of our stays!

 
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Mrs. Mary Jane, Grand Forks, ND Age and Occupation: 26, Instructional Designer Fiance's Age and Occupation: 26, Lead Programmer Engagement Date: February 28, 2009 Wedding Date: September 2009 Venue: City Hall About Me: I'm a career woman on the surface and a homemaker at heart. I love fast cars and high heels, and my favorite food is cake. Mr. Mary Jane and I are both full-time employees and students, and we just bought our first house. We love to curl up on the couch with buttery popcorn, Sour Patch Kids, and the latest Netflix arrival -- whenever we can get a break from everyday life.

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